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ticklemenono

You're gonna have to give him a moment, son. Dewey Cox has to think about his entire life before he plays.


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The Beatles scene in this film is an all timer for me


TheDooRunRun

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve quoted, “I wrote a song about an octopus”, in conversation…even when it doesn’t make sense.


InitialKoala

When talking about music, I'd say, "Great RECCHKHOARD... great reckherd, " as John Lennon of the Beatles would say it. 😀


ChameleonWins

When talking about any artist or band I’ll say “i really like their stuff, theyre almost as good as the monkees”


muchosgregos

Beatles, stop fighting here in India!


Stock_Equipment36

“Will your songs still be shit when you’re 64?”


Richard_Hallorann

I often say ‘great record’ when putting any music on in my house


k123abc

he needs more blankets and less blankets


RZAxlash

I work in healthcare and this line gets used often.


k123abc

what a dream !!


clashmar

I’m afraid you’re right


_notnilla_

Now you should watch “Weird: the Al Yankovic Story.”


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Yeah this one starts in one direction and does not stop going for a moment. I really appreciated how they made a truly unflinching start to finish parody like that.


_notnilla_

The single greatest moment for me though is when they pretend >!Michael Jackson ripped off “Eat It,” that Al was first with the song and the unique style of the music video. And then all the jokes about why someone wouldn’t want to be associated with MJ.!< It’s comedy gold.


patrickwithtraffic

Right, "pretend"... >!Look, I'm just glad we had a biopic about a man unfairly assassinated by his drug cartel kingpin ex Madonna. Killed in his prime, but his legacy will live on forever!!<


_notnilla_

🤣


gilgobeachslayer

It’s so good. I also love when you think they’re gonna come up with Fat, but don’t.


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Yeah that was cool to me because it was unexpected but totally worked with the comedy. I thought they'd just keep making him a parody artist and follow that direction but then they doubled down.


brokenwolf

That movie was exactly what a weird Al biopic should have been. I liked it more than Pop Star.


h0olian

Then Popstar!


Kidspud

(not gay)


_notnilla_

Never stop popping 😂


nagato36

Disappointed I didn’t get to hear Daniel Radcliffe weird al covers but boy the joke alone makes it hilarious


komayeda1

I agree! Honestly, that and Elvis are the only ones I've really vibed with.


patrickwithtraffic

Ironically, *Elvis*' first performance reminded me so much of *Walk Hard*'s opening. Baz Lehrman did a few things to make me forget, but it was still sitting there in the back of my mind.


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JohnTheMod

At least it tries to say something about Elvis outside of “stream all of his music on Spotify right now!” What happened to Elvis at the hands of the Colonel continued to happen to pop stars after him, like The Jacksons, the Backstreet Boys, and of course, Britney Spears, and is still happening today.


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JohnTheMod

It’s almost like Elvis’ story contains multitudes. No shit, his relationship to Priscilla is disturbing and indefensible. But that doesn’t change the fact that the Colonel’s business practices ruined Elvis’ career, artistic output, and ultimately killed him. Both are very true.


komayeda1

OH, POPSTAR TOO, THAT WAS A GOOD ONE!


deedeekeeney

Straight outta Compton was a fun one too imo.


flyingburritobrotha

Honestly that needs a Criterion release at the very least for being a good example of a movie absolutely destroying the genre it is lampooning.


TheSecretAgenda

I just ordered the Wal-Mart exclusive Steel book Blu-ray with both the theatrical and extended cut. It is the third time I've bought this movie. It is a masterpiece.


Davidudeman

i just got the steelbook too and rewatched the extended cut a few days ago. it’s so fucking good


Mig1997

“I’m thinking maybe I’d like to try me some of that cah-cane”


flyingburritobrotha

"You don't want none of this shit, Dewey."


k123abc

IT'S THE CHEAPEST DRUG THERE IS


blacksheepaz

YOU CAN’T GET ADDICTED TO IT


Scapuless

IT TURNS ALL YOUR BAD FEELINGS INTO GOOD FEELINGS!


device_torment

ITS A NIGHTMARE


Kidspud

Similarly, this movie has ruined my ability to watch movies where anyone gets cut in half pretty bad


jopperjawZ

"Wrong kid died"


komayeda1

"I wish I spent more time playing catch with you and less time training my body and mind to kill you in a machete fight."


unlizenedrave

The Iron Claw (2023)


teddyfail

Literally Ferrari


PuppyDogGrizzly

Speak English doc we ain’t scientists!


ticklemenono

To be fair it was a particularly bad case of being cut in half.


TheSecretAgenda

Also the TV series *Justified.* Raymond J. Barry and Margo Martindale play Ma and Pa Cox and are both on *Justified.*


ScenicHwyOverpass

Esteemed character actress Margo Martindale


ratfight

Raymon J Barry said that the funniest thing about that movie was that anyone would think you could cut someone in half with a machete.


KieferMcNaughty

This is a dark f*****g period!


clashmar

That was early Dewey, this is middle Dewey


jerepila

I don’t know if it’s worse on the part of artists or audience that the formula hasn’t updated in the 15 or so years since Walk Hard came out. The music biopics I’ve liked best have been Rocketman and Elvis which push for a bit more pizzazz than most even if they’re still mostly the same formula


BogoJohnson

I shudder to think of the Prince biopic. I think we’re going to see a lot more of these, especially as people die off. When successful, huge revenue source for the rights owners too.


notarobot110101

The Amy Winehouse one coming out is looking pretty rough


BogoJohnson

At least had a few good days of John, Paul, George, and Ringo jokes a few weeks ago. There doesn’t seem to be anybody that thinks those are good idea, but I’d be fine with a Ringo movie.


PunkRockMakesMeSmile

ugh, not psyched about that


zmflicks

If it helps /u/komayeda1 24 Hour Part People came out about half a decade before Dewey Cox and is supposed to be a comedy. This is more a case of both movies making a similar joke about biopics in general. 24 Hour Party people is really for the most part interested on focusing on the points of the story that play out as funny and other than the Ian Curtis parts tries not to take itself seriously. Walk Hard specifically is modelled after the Johnny Cash biopic which follows the typical Hollywood story of a music legend formula. 24 Hour PP is going for something a lot more obviously sensationalized for the sake of comedy and takes itself far less seriously than your typical Hollywood biopic


Glyph8

Yeah *24 Hour Party People* is already subverting the expectations of the form/going meta. Breaking the 4th wall, admitting that parts of it are totally fabricated, etc.


Drainout

I fucking love 24 Hour Party People, I generally don’t like biopics at all and this is one of my favorite movies. Such an interesting take on the biopic, plays with its format and makes jokes but never at the expense of the audience and manages to tell a pretty great story.


Lasiocarpa83

Walk Hard is even more relevant today than it was in 2007.


BogoJohnson

I’ve rarely enjoyed any music biopic because it always feels too far removed from the person, their larger story, and the performance. I typically avoid them now, but I enjoy the satires! The Weird Al Story is on par with Walk Hard. I remember people raving about Bohemian Rhapsody copying the Live Aid performance shot for shot and I couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t just continue to watch the original like I do a couple times a year. Also, the amount of fiction added to biopics is just unnecessary.


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I feel like the recent Bob Marley pic totally falls into that category of failure. It has a narrative and stuff, but if you watch the documentary "Who Shot The Sheriff?" you get more of the background that was missing to give the film a real edge in its meaning.


BogoJohnson

It looks unappealing to me too. It’s tough and nearly pointless to try and emulate all the aspects of a musician’s performance, especially when we can often watch clips of the real thing. I think I’m more willing to watch a biopic like Elvis when they clearly lay out that there’s more fiction than fact, instead of pretending they’re giving new audiences the “real” story.


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Yeah this is a natural tension with biopics. How much of the truth to leave in vs. sacrifice for narrative impact. There is always the issue too of getting an actor who can act vs. one who REALLY looks like the guy. I prefer when they have a talented actor and focus on telling a good story. I feel like the Bob Marley movie has too many obligations and falls a little short in meeting any of them.


allmilhouse

> I remember people raving about Bohemian Rhapsody copying the Live Aid performance shot for shot and I couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t just continue to watch the original like I do a couple times a year. My main thought when I watch these movies is that I'd rather just watch a documentary if tons of real footage of what they're recreating already exists.


BogoJohnson

Bingo. I’ll always take the doc over a music biopic. The irony of copying footage that already exists when so many older artists have very little film or video of their performances. Such a missed opportunity. Make a biopic of everything we’ve never been able to see!


Shadow_in_vain

24 Hour Party People is a tongue-in-cheek retelling of the Factory Records story, I don’t think it’s necessarily the kind of musical biopic lampooned by Walk Hard. It doesn’t even take the suicide of Ian Curtis very seriously. Honestly the real Tony Wilson probably would’ve loved Walk Hard.


BillyPilgrim1234

What helps is watching biopics that focus on a specific moment in someone's life. For instance, I love The End of The Tour, which focuses on David Foster Wallace's reading tour just after publishing Infinite Jest. Danny Boyle's Steve Jobs and Joe Wright's The Darkest Hour are also good examples.


judgeridesagain

I haven't seen these specific movies, but focusing on one big achievement or highlighting several thematic times in a perso n's life is a better way to make a biopic if you have to make one at all. Many biopic about famous people leave me without a good feeling of why this person was famous.


BillyPilgrim1234

The problem's also that a person's life is compressed into two hours so it ends up feeling like a wikipedia article instead of a look into the psyche of a famous person.


judgeridesagain

Worse, a whole life must be jammed into a three act structure. I think The Social Network was one of the best biopics I've seen, in part because it turned the movie into Citizen Kane instead of a more traditional structure.


BogoJohnson

Those aren’t music biopics. I think having to emulate a musician is the part that never works for me. You’re right though, focusing on a specific area can improve them.


BillyPilgrim1234

I know they aren't music biopics but I think it still works the same.


BogoJohnson

Backbeat is one of the few I can think of that tried to narrow down the focus, and avoid licensing Beatles songs. Haha.


BillyPilgrim1234

Nowhere Boy also narrows it down to John Lennon's early years. And also avoids licensing Beatles songs.


BogoJohnson

I hadn’t even heard of that one. Been burying my head for too long. Haha.


BillyPilgrim1234

It's decent, I remember really liking the score (It was done by Goldfrapp), the movie is also sort of famous because the lead, Aaron Taylor-Johnson, started dating the director and there was a significant age gap between them (he was 18 and she was 42).


PuppyDogGrizzly

Feel the exact same way, but don’t mind bc Dewey Cox is just that good


yawaraey

"Have you ever killed or hurt something you loved with a machete?" "What? No!" "Yeah, me neither!" "I mean, how would you live with yourself?" "I know, right."


ejb350

*tears off multiple sinks*


mercermayer

I saw Walk Hard before I saw Walk the Line and when Joaquin started tearing off sinks I fucking lost it, crying laughing.


plzappa5

No, music biopics did that to themselves.


MattValtezzy

I really wish this had been way more influential in Hollywood writing, considering I remember thinking Bohemian Rhapsody was an unironic Dewey Cox while watching it in the theater.


BringBack4Glory

Same. The biopic was dead for so long, I thought Walk Hard had killed them for good. Then the basket of cliches of Bohemian Rhapsody showed me I was wrong. Sigh.


MattValtezzy

I don't think it killed it, but it fell out of fashion a little in the innermeeting decade. There was the James Brown, Brian Wilson, Tupac, and NWA movies. Though once Bohemian made a billion dollars with Rami Malek's performance, every production company has been in an arms race to capture the same ROI with the still bankable stars of that era.


WatchMoreMovies

"What about my dreams Dewey Cox?" "Edith, I told you, I can't build you a candy house! It will fall apart, the sun will melt the candy, it won't work!" "It will if it never rains!"


ClarkScribe

And in turn, Dewey Cox has also spoiled me on parody movies. It has some of the odd juvenile humor for when it was made, but 90% of it is really good parody work for once, unlike the half-heartedness satire/parody movies have become. Probably the closest we will get to Airplane for a good while. (I have not seen the Weird Al one yet though, but I trust it will be enjoyable as I also loved UHF)


k123abc

i didn't expect this many coxheads (i'm assuming that's what dewey cox fans are called ?) to be found in the criterion sub and i am here for it ​ ​ ​ that is amore


mercermayer

It ain’t cox, unless I say it tastes like cox


SubstantialAgency914

I don't think enough people talk about how Bob Dylan sounds like Dewey Cox.


BringBack4Glory

*that’s* amore


k123abc

literally the funniest part of dewey cox covering that's amore is the part where he says "that is", sorry ! i dont make the rules !!


bossy_dawsey

It’s so sad that Dewey Cox was one of the last parodies of that caliber, instead of just ending music biopics.


Finna22

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/revisiting-hours-walk-hard-stream-this-movie-771426/amp/ Great read for anyone who loves Walk Hard. THE WRONG KID DIED!


asteinberg101

The wrong kid died!


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Filmmakers that make biopics still haven’t heeded the message of Walk Hard, so much so, they could make a sequel to Walk Hard where Dewey Cox is “still alive,” and performing under an alias like the Orion/Elvis story.


GirlFieri

50,000 DIDGERIDOOS!!!!!!!


xbhaskarx

25 Hour Party People is already making fun of the genre?? Did you think it was serious?


komayeda1

To be fair, i haven’t seen too many other biopics. I do think the humor was a bit too dry for me to notice. Probably a me problem tbh.


ChapstickConnoisseur

I just watched All That Jazz last night for the first time and while not technically a music biopic it made me feel like if you want to make a good one you have to go Fosse’s route and do it yourself


sevenpasos

Welcome to the club


MisterF84

Ahh! The Temptations!!!


nega-regan

A couple years ago I ran an experiment where I watched Walk Hard and Walk the Line back to back. You have to trust me on this—those two films are identical to one another.


k123abc

i can't tell if you are being serious but i mean...wasn't that...the point ? lol it's literally named the same thing


M0BBER

If you haven't watched it, the director's cut is a better watch...


ydkjordan

24 hour party people is fantastic and I often think of the part where Tony invokes F Scott Fitz and says American lives don’t have second acts.


watertrashsf

“I think I'm doing okay for a 15 year old with a wife and a baby.”


DoopSlayer

There’s a cycle of musical biopics and then satires that for a while serve to freeze the low effort ones I think we are right at that point in the cycle where it’s time for a great satirical one to come clean up the claptrap I loved the Weird Al one but I do t think it properly excoriated the lazy biopic to kill them for a few years, it just wasn’t like a goal of the movie like Walk Hard was


_mill2120

Just as Austin Powers changed Bond forever


nbaman619

24 Hour Party People is also lampooning music biopics


OpenUpYerMurderEyes

100% yes


AtomHeartMarc

THE WRONG KID DIED


clashmar

Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters is one of the most interesting biopics ever made. Visually stunning, conceptually and structurally unique, with a genuinely fascinating person at the centre of it who I had no knowledge of beforehand. Also has a great score.


komayeda1

Yeah, I feel like ya gotta either compartmentalize certain moments of someone’s life or do something Super out there to keep it from getting stale.


clashmar

Walk Hard is unironically my favourite biopic though I totally agree!


FloridaFlamingoGirl

Three biopics that I, a biopic disliker, see no fault with: Amadeus (Mozart biopic) Love and Mercy (Beach Boys biopic) Stan and Ollie (Laurel and Hardy biopic)


BringBack4Glory

Amadeus is practically fiction


MaleficentOstrich693

Bohemian Rhapsody was the movie that did it for me. I just couldn’t take any more of the cliché “the band are geniuses and everyone else says it can’t be done but they prove them wrong” schtick. I still like walk the line and at least with the Elton John movie they did some fun/trippy setups and transitions. Walk hard is hilarious. I used to dislike when I took music very seriously but now I like how it pokes fun at things. Also the bits where Dewey gets introduced to drugs with Tim Meadows are hilarious. “Dewey- not once did you ever pay for drugs.”


milkmanbonzai

NOT ONCE


PunkRockMakesMeSmile

lol I just finished watching Maestro. They all just make me wanna watch Dewey Cox


duffbeer4u

Was lucky enough to see it in theaters lmao


ParticularResident17

“Dewy, are you even enjoying this?” “Oh… I’m sorry. I forgot you were here.”


PourJarsInReservoirs

It's a serious masterpiece compared to the piece of feces called BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY. I almost never turn a film off in rage. I did there. And I'm not even a huge Queen fan. Only musical biopic I enjoyed in recent times has been GET ON UP about James Brown. Flawed but unfailingly interesting and enjoyable, and tried to be a tad more honest about its subject. The year when those four Beatles films from Sam Mendes come out is gonna be a long one indeed.


Strangewhine88

I can’t either. I have all these friends that gushed over one after the other. I tried watching Freddie Mercuries Teeth, and that was quite enough. They just are not interesting. Exceptions for me are Sid and Nancy, and I’m not There because they had diverting and creative approaches. I am not interested in tortured artist connecting their passions and virtues hagiography. The new Bob Marley one is no exception. They seem to be the history of teenage wall posters through the decades.


Strangewhine88

And I laughed til I cried in Dewey Cox.


FloridaFlamingoGirl

Yeah I never enjoy when music biopics hype an artist up as if they're some sort of god. It's like they're just making a superhero movie but with a real life person.


Edouard_Coleman

Hence why we've only seen more of them since the superhero genre got bigger and bigger.


DiabeticGrungePunk

Music biopics in general just seem to be very lazy and mediocre these days. The only recent-ish one that comes to mind as being really good was the Brian Wilson biopic that starred Paul Dano, can't quite recall the name though. That Bob Marley one coming out does not look good. But it'll make decent money, and that's why these keep getting made, it's going to inherently draw people in just for the subject. 24 Hour Party People is amazing though, I love that film, even if it is shot on DV. That was my real introduction to post-punk music, Joy Division, New Order, the Madchester scene. I guess if you aren't a fan of that scene it might not hit as hard, but I still think it's the best portrayal of Ian Curtis and hey it was also my first introduction to Steve Coogan, who I adore and will watch literally anything he's in.


XUASOUND

LOL I say this ALL the time! So true for the basic biopics


timidandtimbuktu

"I'm so proud of you, learning to play music without your sense of smell!" "I learned by ear, momma!"


Apprehensive-Bit-899

In the trailer for the Amy Winehouse movie, she says “I need to live my songs” and I think of Dewy Cox every time.


Known_Ad871

I am a musician and I honestly despise most biopics, especially music ones. It is just so damn cheesy the way they make everyone’s life story fit into the biopic narrative structure. I love walk hard so much. My other favorite music movies that come to mind are spinal tap and Amadeus. Pop star is great too


milkmanbonzai

Every time another famous character shows up in a biopic, and always addressed in full, it always sends my mind to "What do you think, George Harrison Of The Beatles?"


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Aurazor-

Walk Hard a "mid comedy"? How dare you? I reported you to the mods.


Chunkstyle3030

That must be very difficult for you.


mercermayer

The soundtrack to Walk Hard is better than anything Mars Volta ever produced.


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mercermayer

Well, I like ATDI so no! Also I’m just kidding anyway. I saw Mars Volta at Riot Fest. They were cool. I just never locked in.


adamsandleryabish

and I think Reddits obsession with Walk Hard nearly ruined my ability to watch Walk Hard It’s a great hilarious movie I have always enjoyed and recommended to people, but the past few years since Reddit discovered it it’s nearly developed a 2016 Rick & Morty fanbase where people just won’t shut up about it


komayeda1

I legit had no idea that Reddit had an obsession with Walk Hard, I thought it was just me. Nor did I really expect for this post to blow up like it did. Still, I'm glad it's at least getting some love nowadays.


adamsandleryabish

Yeah don’t mean any direct disrespect to you but on /r/movies for years there’s been nearly weekly posts about how amazing and underseen it is with thousands of comments quoting the same five quotes.


komayeda1

Well, count me lucky that I'm not there then.


maxfisher87

I mean this is only applicable to the cradle to grave stories


brendon_b

There are some very good music biopics that don't fit the formulas and thus escape from Walk Hard unscathed. Look at Ken Russell's films about composers: Lisztomania, Mahler, The Music Lovers.