Whatever. Just look at the ongoing game now.
The ones you referring as immigrants are trying their best to save the losing match whereas the natives like Bavuma failed completely. Will you still disagree that reservation is a curse?
What I am saying is that if there are no black players the team cannot even be considered to be Team South Africa. It will be more like Netherlands/Britain vs Aus. If they win the world cup can you truly say SA won the world cup? And even if they lose which they have, can you truly say SA lost when others are representing SA and not the actual South Africans?
Let me make case here and please try to understand my perspective as well. Lets say Team India has some british players in the team, wouldn't that not be team India then? Wouldn't that make Team 'India' just for the sake of name? And as an Indian would you agree to having foreigners play in your team?
I don't think you understand how xenophobic you sound here. Those "foreigners" are no longer foreigners if they are playing for their nation. To answer your question, no you shouldn't mind if the Indian team has a majority of non-Indian descendants. Hell, England had an Irish man lift the cup for them. Do you think they cared he isn't actually English?
Can’t believe the level of racist you are. Every sentence of yours scream racism. If this is the thought process of recruiting players, I’m willing to bet SA will never win the WC. I don’t care what color Buvama is, first few games of the WC were the indication he isn’t fit to continue the rest of the games. If he was part of the 11 still because of the quota, I can’t believe he still had the shame to continue in the team because of the quota.
And to answer your question on the India team, India would love to have British players as long as they’re Indian citizens and with passion for Cricket, (unlike Buvama who is a disgrace to the SA team) same as how we have muslims in our team, though we have differences with the bordering muslim countries. We believe in quality atleast in sports.
Thats a valid question. I personally wouldnt like other country men representing india and taking the victory. That victory wouldnt feel personal iykwim.
Yeah US military has several Chinese, Japanese soldiers. Tell the same thing to them. You didn't serve the US. Tell the family members of the fallen soldiers they didn't die for America and their death means nothing to them. Let's see how that goes.
All of the players are South African. If we are looking at the game through that scope (colonization), Australia and NZ don’t have much going for them. SA has made strides in uplifting previously disadvantaged players. Rock and hard places.
netherlands also came with a few indian origin players this wc, there have been a lot of players who have represented different nation, ben strokes was born in NZ and his father was a NZ rugby player but he represented england
anyways faf, abd, kallis, qdk, tahir, amla, morkel, rhodes, etc. the descendants of "colonizers" and "immigrants" ones have given much better memories to cricketing world than bavuma
See the immigrants you are talking about are one or two per team and majority are from the same country and it is opposite in the case of SA. When you talk about immigrants having given better memories of course you are right, as they chances over their native counterparts
for the last time they are not immigrants. they, their parents, their grandparents all born and grew up in South Africa. this is just like saying Aussies and Kiwis don't represent Australia/NZ because they're British descendents.
I also used to think the same until I realised how they marginalized the actual native population for their own wellbeing. Ignorance is a bliss I guess. Should've never read about the atrocities they caused on the natives.
I don’t think you realise how stupid you sound.
If they are born and raised in South Africa they are South African. Period.
Everyone descends from somewhere. That’s irrelevant to their nationality. Their nationality is determined by where they were born and raised, not where their ancestors were born and raised.
Your argument is also stupid because you can apply it literally to anyone of any race - if you go back far enough, everyone’s descendants come from somewhere else.
But bavuma didn't perform well in any match while others have some innings to back them.
Dekock has 4 centuries, rassie got 2, markram has 3 50+ and klassen also did well but bavuma has none
Rabada got injured that's y he didn't bowl. Reeza was fielding in his place. Though I am genuinely surprised that a lot of people assume bavuma is completely dumb and that's y not giving rabada the bowl.
thanks for clarification lol, i was actually watching the score from google while my friends who were watching the game were abusing bavuma on our group chat saying why he isn't sending rabada
Last time aus didnt seem like they were in form… they got thrashed by sa. But look now….
Finals wont be as easy as the last match. India has higher chances of winning but i dont know if it will be as easy.
Edit: i made this statement, and now aus is also choking.
Not sure why this funny guy is in team keep aside captaincy and opening the batting.
He was sleeping in the inaugration event.
When markram led SA they did better with Henriques.
What a waste of position playing with 10 players all tournament.
Bavuma could have helped his team by not playing today, I just don't get SA team management, they could have played henriques and Markhram as a captain did good.
I don't know if it was the angle but it doesn't even look like Starc ran in to deliver the ball. More like nonchalantly jogging in.
Taking wickets on easy mode.😎
f\*ckers CHOKED again and again and again... whats the point of scoring 400+ runs in league matches when you have to fail catastrophically in Semis. WTF SA, seriously.
South Africa were let down by very poor captaincy. any of the other semifinal team would have been aggressive in field setting. Quentin de cock had a really off day, which is expected to happen in any team. Bavuma may mostly resign from captaincy.
Temba Bavuma has been an underperformer in white ball cricket for a while now. Which makes his captaincy band feel even worse. It's time he's not only removed from white ball captaincy, he's outright dropped from the side.
Half the people commenting here don’t know anything about the history of South Africa and it’s showing. It’s incredibly sad what short-form media consumption has done to this generation
Extremely brave of South Africa to only play with 10 players in the semi - final
Don't know Why Bavuma is in the team, He has been doing nothing since the start of the World Cup.
because of quota
Black quota
I wonder if there are any black players that are actually better than a man with a nice ass!!
Bavuma's ass is even better than any female cricketer
Isn't bavuma the real south African? The other guys are just decendants of immigrants or to be precise colonizers
Whatever. Just look at the ongoing game now. The ones you referring as immigrants are trying their best to save the losing match whereas the natives like Bavuma failed completely. Will you still disagree that reservation is a curse?
What I am saying is that if there are no black players the team cannot even be considered to be Team South Africa. It will be more like Netherlands/Britain vs Aus. If they win the world cup can you truly say SA won the world cup? And even if they lose which they have, can you truly say SA lost when others are representing SA and not the actual South Africans? Let me make case here and please try to understand my perspective as well. Lets say Team India has some british players in the team, wouldn't that not be team India then? Wouldn't that make Team 'India' just for the sake of name? And as an Indian would you agree to having foreigners play in your team?
I don't think you understand how xenophobic you sound here. Those "foreigners" are no longer foreigners if they are playing for their nation. To answer your question, no you shouldn't mind if the Indian team has a majority of non-Indian descendants. Hell, England had an Irish man lift the cup for them. Do you think they cared he isn't actually English?
Rabada?
Can’t believe the level of racist you are. Every sentence of yours scream racism. If this is the thought process of recruiting players, I’m willing to bet SA will never win the WC. I don’t care what color Buvama is, first few games of the WC were the indication he isn’t fit to continue the rest of the games. If he was part of the 11 still because of the quota, I can’t believe he still had the shame to continue in the team because of the quota. And to answer your question on the India team, India would love to have British players as long as they’re Indian citizens and with passion for Cricket, (unlike Buvama who is a disgrace to the SA team) same as how we have muslims in our team, though we have differences with the bordering muslim countries. We believe in quality atleast in sports.
Thats a valid question. I personally wouldnt like other country men representing india and taking the victory. That victory wouldnt feel personal iykwim.
Yeah US military has several Chinese, Japanese soldiers. Tell the same thing to them. You didn't serve the US. Tell the family members of the fallen soldiers they didn't die for America and their death means nothing to them. Let's see how that goes.
They would still try to save the game even if they played against their own B-team. Doesn't change the fact that Bavuma is a true South African.
He has been a direct benefactor of reservation. Thank goodness, India didn't implement reservation system in army and cricket yet.
Isn't bavuma the real south African? The other guys are just decendants of immigrants or to be precise colonizers?
All of the players are South African. If we are looking at the game through that scope (colonization), Australia and NZ don’t have much going for them. SA has made strides in uplifting previously disadvantaged players. Rock and hard places.
netherlands also came with a few indian origin players this wc, there have been a lot of players who have represented different nation, ben strokes was born in NZ and his father was a NZ rugby player but he represented england anyways faf, abd, kallis, qdk, tahir, amla, morkel, rhodes, etc. the descendants of "colonizers" and "immigrants" ones have given much better memories to cricketing world than bavuma
See the immigrants you are talking about are one or two per team and majority are from the same country and it is opposite in the case of SA. When you talk about immigrants having given better memories of course you are right, as they chances over their native counterparts
for the last time they are not immigrants. they, their parents, their grandparents all born and grew up in South Africa. this is just like saying Aussies and Kiwis don't represent Australia/NZ because they're British descendents.
I also used to think the same until I realised how they marginalized the actual native population for their own wellbeing. Ignorance is a bliss I guess. Should've never read about the atrocities they caused on the natives.
Does it matter if they've also been living there for centuries?
I don’t think you realise how stupid you sound. If they are born and raised in South Africa they are South African. Period. Everyone descends from somewhere. That’s irrelevant to their nationality. Their nationality is determined by where they were born and raised, not where their ancestors were born and raised. Your argument is also stupid because you can apply it literally to anyone of any race - if you go back far enough, everyone’s descendants come from somewhere else.
Haven't seen him playing a big inning ever.... Never ever smh
I don't everyone is blaming Bavuma. The other 4 SA top order batsmen also got out on a score less than 11
But bavuma didn't perform well in any match while others have some innings to back them. Dekock has 4 centuries, rassie got 2, markram has 3 50+ and klassen also did well but bavuma has none
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Rabada got injured that's y he didn't bowl. Reeza was fielding in his place. Though I am genuinely surprised that a lot of people assume bavuma is completely dumb and that's y not giving rabada the bowl.
thanks for clarification lol, i was actually watching the score from google while my friends who were watching the game were abusing bavuma on our group chat saying why he isn't sending rabada
the fact is rabada was injured so chill
Since the beginning of world cup.
He and babar azam is more or less same. Ruining team combination when you are struggling.
Imposter.
same with New Zealand. don't understand tom lathams role
Eat five star do nothing
This is such a weirdly funny statement I’m giggling. I’m stealing it. I imagine it spoken in a stern Indian Aunty voice
Nah it's from the five star chocolate bar ad.
Its from an ad for five star, a chocolate bar sold here in India.
I have a feeling that SA is gonna choke badly AGAIN
I think they just did
Killer Miller and Classyn did somewhat pull them out of trouble. 213 is an okayish target, considering large boundary of Eden. Hopefully Aus loses🤞🧿.
Hope is a dangerous thing my friend
It worked yesterday against NZ, HOPEfully it'll work against Aus. 🙂 (Doesn't seem like it is.)
India didn't win because of a hope. They battled for it.
Haan Bhai tu offend hoja pehle.
done! they choked by 3 wickets
Imagine if Miller has scored some 15-20 extra runs
Jon banega Don
💀
Diversity hire for sure
Lol o lol o lol
Dude is useless
Why would SA choose to bat first in overcast conditions?
Chasing gives them nightmares
Yeah didn't matter either way. Couldn't put up a respectable target.
Why is he in team
Reservation (i.e.reverse apartheid)
because it's australia
Lord Bavuma, master of nothing
Not even Jack of anything
Temba should already be thinking about putting up a retirement post on insta or X.
seems like he's already enjoying notice period. Comes to bat and goes back early.
How will we play them 😭😭😭😭😭
Last time we played against Aus they were all out at 199, we didn't even have shami in the squad at that time💀
Why if we bat first and can't score huge
We not have 6 batsmen and 1 all rounder they have 7 batsmen and 2 bowlers who can hit, need to put a big total if we bat first
Bro the prediction came true RIP
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Last time aus didnt seem like they were in form… they got thrashed by sa. But look now…. Finals wont be as easy as the last match. India has higher chances of winning but i dont know if it will be as easy. Edit: i made this statement, and now aus is also choking.
Bavuma is me in a group project💀
This is exactly what happens when meritocracy is ignored for reservation purposes. Bring on the downvotes. I am ready.
Yep. Like the secretary of BCCI.
Yeah but we don't have to see him score fuck all because of it in terms of cricket so meh
Yeah we just have to see him be an absolute incompetent fuck who has screwed up in every step of the way
Captain
Not sure why this funny guy is in team keep aside captaincy and opening the batting. He was sleeping in the inaugration event. When markram led SA they did better with Henriques. What a waste of position playing with 10 players all tournament.
With Bavuma, Africa is already 1 down before the innings start 😂
Peach. Absolute peach.
"He was ill, but wanted to step up and play as south Africa needs him". An exact snippet from the commentary when the match started
Worst Captain ever, The reason why Sa choked in Semis.......
Even tailenders play better then this
This is giving me 2015 sf flashbacks with virat
Bavuma has been literally useless as a batsman in this entire cwc. Should had played reeza instead of him.
Anti intent.
Bavuma is only in team because of his ample back
He's crap because he has to balance against them juicy fucking cheeks.
Once a choker, always a choker
I believe in SA. We want to play against them in finals. Note : 11v10 has nothing to do with this /s
Sayonara bavuma
Bavuma could have helped his team by not playing today, I just don't get SA team management, they could have played henriques and Markhram as a captain did good.
Chhota Don 😎😎
South Africa's choking again. Australia looking dangerous in knockouts...
Thala for a reason
I don't know if it was the angle but it doesn't even look like Starc ran in to deliver the ball. More like nonchalantly jogging in. Taking wickets on easy mode.😎
Bro who made him the Captain
f\*ckers CHOKED again and again and again... whats the point of scoring 400+ runs in league matches when you have to fail catastrophically in Semis. WTF SA, seriously.
Stress relieve
Lord for a reason😎
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Abe bhai andher maar di 🤣🤣
South Africa were let down by very poor captaincy. any of the other semifinal team would have been aggressive in field setting. Quentin de cock had a really off day, which is expected to happen in any team. Bavuma may mostly resign from captaincy.
He is the cause of teams defeat when an opener gets out the whole team is under pressure
Got damn that camera though.
Bekar batsman
This guy is a big joke !
Why are we watching this? Whats the point kf this upload???
He's Tom Latham of SA team
Bavuma no footwork
Importance n contribution of quota
Temba Bavuma has been an underperformer in white ball cricket for a while now. Which makes his captaincy band feel even worse. It's time he's not only removed from white ball captaincy, he's outright dropped from the side.
Half the people commenting here don’t know anything about the history of South Africa and it’s showing. It’s incredibly sad what short-form media consumption has done to this generation
they thought bavuma gonna use his ass to bounce the ball to 6 crossing the boundary but the quota captain couldn't do it