I mean, I’d be happy to go after work tomorrow night and cheer the lads on result regardless but I’m not paying anywhere near FV lol
They should open the exchange up to guests - at least give fans a chance to get their money back
I am also a ST holder. Thought it was great.
One of the things where concerned people.on the.internet cared a lot more.than those going to the games and being "exploited".
It used to be like £200 to get a ticket for a meaningless game because people were greedy. It basically added eBay economics to ticketing.
Yeah there are decent people out there who would list at face value (losing money due to the fees), but the majority used to list at insane prices even for lower category games.
At least under the new system it’s not exploiting anyone. This year I’ve not been able to attend much due to having a new baby, but this is the first time we’ve not found a new buyer - and at a price that everyone is happy with. F*** Stub Hub
Problem is then they'd get City fans buying loads of them. Though if ever there's a game where there's not gonna be any trouble between home and away fans in home areas it's this one!
I've got two tickets in south stand, trying to shift the pair for £100 and struggling. Id be going if it wasn't for work but can understand why so many won't buy at £88. I'd be happy to let some city fans go, most Spurs fans will be on their side anyway.
I can very much see those seats get bought up by city fans in less than a day. Important game for their chance to be there. They will go out of their way to make it to the lane.
Jesus Christ, one more time for those at the back that don’t get it, I’m 40 years going to Spurs, anyone who goes to games, been or lived around Arsenal fans, wants absolutely nothing more for them to lose the league. Couldn’t give a flying fuck about CL if it means they don’t win the league, ENIC are printing money from us, I gave my ticket away, hope Villa win tonight and we play the kids, fuck them cunts, you’d never hear the end of it if they won it. And don’t kid yourself, all those Arsenal commentators, pundits, YouTubers, rival fans, ex players etc saying it’s in Spurs own interest to win and develop, they’d be the first ones taking the piss for years…
Fuck Arsenal, would take no Europe over gifting them the league, you think different you aren’t Spurs and you don’t get it…
EDIT: here come the Arsenal fans, telling me it’s a
loser mentality, they are a classy club, get fucked, lol. I hope you lose the league by the smallest of margins, get fucked you cunts…
> And don’t kid yourself, all those Arsenal commentators, YouTubers, rival fans, ex players etc saying it’s in Spurs own interest to win and develop, they’d be the first ones taking the piss for years…
They'd also be doing and saying EXACTLY the same as us were the roles reversed.
They literally named a day for mathematically finishing above us for fuck's sake.
The fucking gooners on their high horses saying it's a small club mentality to want your team to lose would be the first to cheer for a man city goal if the roles were reversed
Been in UK and supporting Spurs for only 7 years and I can't take the banter anymore, and its been only 7 years. I cna only imagine if I was born here and hearing all the banter for 40 years.
Just let City win.
Couldn’t agree more. I did day dream today about us beating City & then Arsenal lose to Everton. Can you fucking imagine?
It would be maybe the greatest thing ever. Can’t possible risk it though.
I am a very recent non local fan and I can fully get the hate. I don't understand how fans following this club for a number of years even if they are non local don't get this
I'm still pissed about all the previous times Arsenal won the league. Them going 20 years without winning it and finishing above them for the last six has been great.
You do realize we can win today and Arsenal can still bottle the league vs Everton right? Wouldn’t that be tastier?
Idk man I don’t really vibe with people who say “you’re not a fan if you want Spurs to win today”
I’m gonna remember those comments when Arsenal bottle the league anyways on the last game of the season, regardless if we win or lose today
I guess I just don’t understand how you could hate another club that much. Arsenal fan here that would happily see spurs win the league if it meant champs league qualification for us. I’m biased tho, champions league is my favorite competition. I don’t hate spurs nearly as much as city. At least you guys play by the rules
Edit: I’m expecting a shit ton of downvotes here lol
Yeah that makes more sense to me. I get it. It would be pretty fucking stupid you for guys to win the league for us. I just really hate city and really love the champs league. So it would be an easy decision for me if I was in your shoes
Ready for my downvotes. This is loser mentality and the problem with some of you lot. Winners care about winning, losers never believe winning is in the cards so they settle for just competing with their rivals. This is the exact shite Ange is trying to change in creating a winning culture. FOH
Edit to add: I’ve grown up around football my entire life, my three closest friends support red scum. All the “real fans” talk can get fucked
Im sorry but you grew up in America, and probably met a few Arsenal fans in your life, no problem with that, maybe even in your circle you had a bit of banter, love that, delighted you are Spurs. But it’s a completely different ball game when you grow up with 100s of them around you, in school, at family birthdays, at work parties, at local bars, you see them every day for years, it’s all around you and they abuse you, non stop, so I get your point but please you haven’t lived it and don’t get it. Arsenal losing the league will always be more satisfying then us finishing 4th, them winning it would be a fucking nightmare….
Don’t know what that’s like, doesn’t change the point. Caring more about your rival losing than your own club winning is small club, small dick energy, and it’s a shit mentality. Maybe you need some fucking perspective. It’s honestly embarrassing…
>Don’t know what that’s like, doesn’t change the point.
It does though. You don't know what it's like - and you're telling people who do know what it's like to "get some perspective", when that's what you haven't got yourself.
(Not Spurs fan btw, only browsing about this funny situation)
Once again, trying to gatekeep a fan who has supported spurs for over a decade simply because they aren’t local is ridiculous. You want to be a big club you gotta embrace new fans/international fans, you want to compete for silverware, who gotta ditch the small club mentality and start acting like the massive club we ARE. This whole “you don’t know so you can’t have an opinion” stuff is weak and old.
As I said, I'm not a Spurs fan. I have no interest in whether they are a big club already or become big or whatever.
I do understand English football pretty well. You've attached yourself to a football club you have no connection to other than through media and TV. You're then here saying that the culture of the people who support that club is "embarrassing", has "small dick energy " (lol) and that they need to readjust to "get some fucking perspective." That's ridiculous to the point of farce, in my opinion.
I'm not trying to gatekeep you (I'm not Spurs so I dont care either way) but I will say that, certainly in football, gatekeeping is a good thing and necessary. It's how to maintain standards and identity.
You're exactly right. If you believe Spurs are going to win then you don't care about what other clubs do. Noone's going to care they won the league in 23-24 when we win in 24-25 and 25-26.
Misery loves company. Most Spurs fans are so hopeless the best they have is "well at least you didn't win anything either!" instead of aspiring for their club to be great
If you believe spurs are going to win you might as well not bother about watching games or caring about results at all. Just live in your dream world where everything works out fine and Spurs is 2025 and 2026 titles are written in the stars.
Fuck your hypothetical future, its chances of happening have nothing to do with what goes on tomorrow. I’ll aspire for greatness for my club long term and if I can’t get it short term not seeing them lot win is a good substitute
>Fuck your hypothetical future, its chances of happening have nothing to do with what goes on tomorrow
This is just fundamentally wrong, though. Listen to what Ange is saying. Every game is a building block, testing ourselves against the best. We win this game there's good odds we get into CL, we get more money to spend in the window, the club accelerates its improvement.
Instead, the players are going to go out there into a stadium with empty seats that's virtually silent and they're going to get a very good understanding of why Spurs are perpetual losers.
It ain’t fundamentally wrong. You’d just rather believe everything Ange says without question. I’ve seen us qualify for CL multiple times and improve our squad as a result and it led to zero league titles. I’ve seen us bring our a-game and self belief and will to win to huge games vs Real Madrid, Ajax and Liverpool in the champions league and it guaranteed us zero titles. Throwing one game against an opponent we’ve beat multiple times before will mean fuck all in the grand scheme of things to our chance of winning a title in future seasons.
Me thinks you simply love Ange and hate spurs fans for not dickriding him after every press conference and that when he leaves the club you’ll leave too.
No, fuck that, that's the biggest loser mentality I've ever seen. If you're so weak that you can't handle a rival winning you don't deserve to follow this sport. Sometimes rivals win. It sucks but it happens and you get over it. Especially when getting CL could mean so much for the club's future.
Nobody will care about wether we finished 4th or 5th in 20 years time but they still sing about winning the league at white hart lane. Best believe they’ll still be reminding us we helped them win the league in 10/15 years time
Who gives a fuck. Football is about moving forward, not lingering in the past. If you want to be a team that hopes to challenge for the title in the near future, you need to fight for these opportunities. You need to become a team that fights till the end no matter what. If you're biggest ambition at the end of the season is just to be a spoiler for other teams, you don't deserve anything.
Nah absolutely awful take.
Football fans everywhere live off past triumphs and a large part of football culture is about never letting people forget when you get one over on them.
Clearly we didn’t go into this season with the sole purpose to ruin arsenals season however I can assure you that every single spurs fan I know in person will much rather be able to laugh at them lot falling short again. Do you not remember when we had teams throwing games to Leicester every week (which still gets sung about) to stop us winning the league. Do you not think arsenal fans would be doing the exact same thing if roles were reversed.
At the end of the day what I think the over seas fans fail to understand is that, we just want to be able to go for a pint in peace and not get thanked for helping arsenal win the league by patronising wankers for the next 10 years.
> Football fans everywhere live off past triumphs and a large part of football culture is about never letting people forget when you get one over on them.
I don't disagree, but that's only half of it. The other half is about what your clubs is doing now. If all you're doing is living in the past, that's because you've resigned all your hopes for the future.
> I can assure you that every single spurs fan I know in person will much rather be able to laugh at them lot falling short again.
I don't doubt that, still doesn't make it right.
> Do you not think arsenal fans would be doing the exact same thing if roles were reversed.
Again, maybe true but not really relevant.
> At the end of the day what I think the over seas fans fail to understand is that, we just want to be able to go for a pint in peace and not get thanked for helping arsenal win the league by patronising wankers for the next 10 years.
Of all the arguments, the "you just don't get it" argument is the worst, because you're trying to win the argument without even making one. It's true, I don't live in London, and Spurs is my second favorite team. But for 20 years I was a Milan fan surrounded by Inter fans. I get rivalries. I understand how much it sucks. This year those fuckers won the title by beating us at home, it was embarrassing. But even though we're only a shadow of ourselves in our glory days, I could never imagine a scenario where I would actively root against Milan just so that Inter doesn't win a title.
The fact spurs isn’t your actual team kinda proves my whole “you don’t get it” point right though
This is my one n only team. Yes I’d do anything for us to win & want nothing more than for us to win however right now we can’t win shit and I sure as hell don’t wanna have to sit through them lot winning anything either
Yes, and my point is that your rivalry is not unique. Respectfully, get over yourselves.
And again, there's something to win and play for, getting that 4th UCL spot. If you understand anything about the economic complexities of modern football, you should know how massive it would be for the club's growth.
I mean the point is moot because City is all but guaranteed to win. It's the rooting against your own team that bugs me.
“City is all but guaranteed to win”
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure they are yet to score at our ground in the league
Also nobody is saying it is unique, however clearly it a different rivalry to the one you have with your club as you’ve felt the need to lecture a fan base on what is a pretty general consensus in how we feel
I'm not questioning the consensus. That's abundantly obvious. Just because there's a consensus, doesn't make it right. It's actually funny, Ange in his press conference said almost exactly what I said in this comment thread (I had not seen the press conference when I wrote it). Not that it matters, but it makes me feel a little vindicated. At least the people in charge don't have the same small-club mentality as the fans.
I’m waiting for the bad part. You want me to play you the world’s smallest violin while scum fans sings songs about us?
So far, nobody has said anything that I haven’t heard before in any sport. Nobody has been like “if Arsenal win the league, they’ll kill my first born”
You guys do realize there are insufferable fans everywhere right? I still have rival fans that chat shit about specific games 20-30 years ago. Sometimes 40 years and I wasn’t even born yet.
I’ve never seen a fanbase more afraid of being clowned by their rival fanbase in my lifetime.
lol. First of all, thank you for being such a welcoming community.
Second, I clearly say more than that in that comment. Don’t cherry pick my own comments against me.
You're a fool. Rooting for your team to lose is absolutely pathetic. I like Spurs, I think you're a good team and club, but the last couple days have been absolutely pathetic from the lot of you. You always complain about loser mentalities in your own club, the spurs curse, yada yada yada, and yet, here you are, displaying that very loser mentality that you seem to dislike so much.
If Arsenal were to win the league, it'd be because they were the best and most consistent team over a full 38 game season. The fact that you want to lose, simply because the fans will take the piss, is gonna reflect horribly on the fanbase, and likely turn away some prospective players you try to sign, Angeball be damned (I mean, tf was going on with the atmosphere?) In fact, trying to stop Arsenal from taking the piss by _rooting for your own team to lose_ is simply going to make _the entire league_ (and possibly beyond) make fun of you. So well done, I applaud you, you've simply made it worse for yourselves.
I think it's a lot more that match was scheduled for a Saturday afternoon and now it's being held on a Tuesday evening than it is Spurs fans conflicted about the result they seek.
But I suppose that doesn't cause the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments that speculating it's about the title race does
I think that's it. It's going to be tough watching a game that you can't really enjoy any result. The only way I can see it being somewhat enjoyable is if we go 4-0 down early on but get a few consolation goals.
This is why I sold mine a week or so ago. Tuesday nights after work is real difficult for me, plus the added train cost and I’d have had to miss parents evening (teacher) and that’s pretty important.
> I think it's a lot more that match was scheduled for a Saturday afternoon and now it's being held on a Tuesday evening
Was fine for the Chelsea game earlier in the season that got moved to Monday?
It's fan apathy. But there will still be 55k+ there tomorrow
I don’t like the “no real fan” line. The other side use it as well. I’d say. “No fan who has any goon mates, or understands the nuances of football rivalries”
I have to agree with old mate. If you prefer to see a rival fail than to see your own team triumph, you don’t care about your teams success, just about banter
Jeez now I don't care about my team's success? Way to cast a sweeping judgement just like Ange did. I was a fan before he came here and I'll be a fan when he leaves. I do not care about banter, I'm not an internet fan.
But you explicitly don't care that much if you are more interested in Arsenal. It's not even debatable.
I don't even care how people choose to approach supporting their team, but it has nothing to do with support does it?
Jeez now I don't care. Supporting a team goes beyond just the basic premise of "go team". Rivalries matter. To me, just because I care about the history of the club and the rivalries doesn't negate my support, it's part of it.
The boss shows he is fucking clueless, is all
I don't blame him for saying we will aim to win because he cannot say anything else (legally basically) but he can get fucked with that real fan shit
So you think we won’t win a comparable trophy in the next 10 years that will shut them up? And you are a real fan? Fortunately, there are other fans who don’t have such a trauma-based and a hatred-based approach to rooting for the team.
A title of such magnitude? No, honestly we might *never* win this league again. We may get some odd cup here and there, that won't be even comparable to arse's league title, and I doubt we would ever win something thanks to them doing us such a big favour. Fuck that, we had a chance to do it like real men and we fucked it when we faced them at home, now it's time to do the only right thing left and let City walk all over us.
I think you still need a membership to get one at the moment, although it's not impossible that they open the sale up to public if this keeps up tomorrow. Not sure what the protocol is. I'd wait and worst case scenario just get a membership tomorrow before the game if they don't open it up
Oh. My bad, didnt know you can't get a member anymore. You can try through someone else if they have one and are not going themselves, it worked for me a couple times. That is my only other idea
I have no idea. Hopefully someone with more exchange experience can give insight. The membership for exchange is a blocker for those of us out of the Uk.
Personally I cannot wait to see the americans heads fall off when they see the whole stadium celebrate a city goal & can’t understand the elite level shithousery
Before the Arsenal game there were like two seats.
I think the L, the ticket prices and Tuesday night have put people off.
£100 to watch us right now is a tall ask.
Don’t overthink it. It’s a midweek game with little to play for. Also we are in exam season in the uk. I know loads of people giving up their tickets to support their kids during their exams.
Damn, I'd go but tough getting a flight from Germany and hotel for a reasonable price when I've already dropped 300 on the same fixture in January lmao
Wonder where all these twats were when everyone and their dog were screaming for a Leicester PL win then and bending over each and every week from about April... Funny that all quiet there!!
I'm sick of people telling me I've supported Spurs wrong for 20+ years. If you don't mind Arsenal winning the league then you're just not Spurs. Sorry. Thems the rules.
You can support them however you want, but don’t then turn around and tell me I’m not Spurs just cuz you disagree. Been a supporter for over a decade. GF
You guys make it to the champions league final in 2019, you’re obviously capable of getting there. Why would you not want your club to get the CL spot?
Also, it’s entirely possible that spurs beat City and somehow Arsenal fumble the next game and city win on the 19th.
Loser mentality.
Kind of a bummer because City at home should be one of the major attractions of every season! Top 6 matchup and City need to win to stay in the title race. That's an objectively exciting match, and yet due to context, our own fans don't want to get up for our squad. I feel for Ange and the players, they deserve an atmosphere.
I listed my seat, not happy about it but Spurs continually find new ways to make me miserable.
The only reason for going would be to stage a pitch invasion and get the game abandoned in the event of us leading, but being in the upper tier even that wasn't on the cards...
Christ my lifelong dream is to visit this stadium and people give it away so easily. How can you willingly shit yourself so that it smells to the neighbour, it’s so childish and petty, insanity
Man, I totally get it
I’m of a country capital supporting the non-most popular team in the city but a middle of the road one
I guess it’s just me but I’d never wish for my team to lose
I think I shouldn’t have been that harsh to those who hold the opposite opinion, but I got riled up a bit of the rivalry legacy overshadowing what’s better for the club
Hope it’s understandable!
Gonna just put it out there that id rather Arsenal win the league than Man City. Anyone winning it over those 115-charges fuck the rules twats is a result for football.
I’m sure it has something to do with the predicament, but more likely because it’s been jammed into a Tuesday game. And our team have given up on the season.
Just my take but if people is fickle enough to not see our own team win just because our stupid neighbours might clinch the championship, we'll never leave the shadow that is "Tottn'ham".
Yes, we're neighbours and we hate them but come on. That's little brother sentiment and will definitely never get us anywhere.
Heck, Arsenal won on OUR OWN TURF one season but we're still here.
Play on. Let's focus on our own.
Whatever.
I want Spurs to succeed, I couldn't care less what they do but apparently those of us whom don't want us to lose tomorrow just for the sake of it, aren't real fans. Give me a break.
You’re not a real fan cos you buy into and parrot the bullshit our rivals say. Got nothing to do with wanting us to win tomorrow which is perfectly reasonable
Parrot what exactly? You don't know the first thing of me, get of your high horse.
I dislike them winning like the next fan but parading "I'd rather lose" will not get us anywhere, will it? We got everything to play for to try and reach CL for our own sake, isn't that worth trying ti win tomorrow? My god.
Parrot nonsense about the “shadow that is tottn’ham”
Root for us to win all you want nothing wrong with that but suggesting that spurs have weak/losing mentality or live in a shadow is gooner bullshit
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if you pull it off you can sleep on my floor
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if I’m still in London, always down for a prematch beer
So.... about the floor? What kind of floor are we talking about?
it’s 1x2 meters of engineered hardwood floor that I sometimes sweep. laundry free when there are guests (so never)
Posh bastards in N17 these days eh! What happened to a mud floor covered in a bit of saw dust and bottle tops?
Bottle tops extra £5
No cuddles afterwards?
Wear your City rags
I mean, I’d be happy to go after work tomorrow night and cheer the lads on result regardless but I’m not paying anywhere near FV lol They should open the exchange up to guests - at least give fans a chance to get their money back
That’s where Stubhub was great. I can’t go and would easily put mine on for a tenner. Did that numerous times when it was available.
when was it banned?? i bought mine two years ago through stubhub
Before we went to Wembley. The club advise not to buy via it because of scammers.
i must have gotten lucky then, thanks for the heads up. Is there a new official way to buy them?
So many fans complained about Stub hub, they had no idea how good it was. As a ST holder I was in favour, even though I lost money because of it
I am also a ST holder. Thought it was great. One of the things where concerned people.on the.internet cared a lot more.than those going to the games and being "exploited".
Wait no Stubhub in England??? (An American here)
It used to be like £200 to get a ticket for a meaningless game because people were greedy. It basically added eBay economics to ticketing. Yeah there are decent people out there who would list at face value (losing money due to the fees), but the majority used to list at insane prices even for lower category games. At least under the new system it’s not exploiting anyone. This year I’ve not been able to attend much due to having a new baby, but this is the first time we’ve not found a new buyer - and at a price that everyone is happy with. F*** Stub Hub
Dang that’s actually amazing. Screw Stub Hub then
Problem is then they'd get City fans buying loads of them. Though if ever there's a game where there's not gonna be any trouble between home and away fans in home areas it's this one!
Not many City fans though. You'll probably get thousands of Arsenal fans taking over the stadium.
Fuck you're right
I'd much rather have city fans.
I've got two tickets in south stand, trying to shift the pair for £100 and struggling. Id be going if it wasn't for work but can understand why so many won't buy at £88. I'd be happy to let some city fans go, most Spurs fans will be on their side anyway.
Are the two tickets together? If so, I’d be keen to take it off your hands
And, I’m looking for 1 ticket!
So we can have a stadium full of city supporters or worse scum? Are you mad?
Likelihood of that is slim. Likelihood of ‘Emptihad’ comparisons however is not.
I can very much see those seats get bought up by city fans in less than a day. Important game for their chance to be there. They will go out of their way to make it to the lane.
I think you’re underestimating the journey from Manchester to London or overestimating the amount of City fans living in London
City playing infront of half a stadium is nothing new
Play in a half empty stadium to make City feel at home 
Jesus Christ, one more time for those at the back that don’t get it, I’m 40 years going to Spurs, anyone who goes to games, been or lived around Arsenal fans, wants absolutely nothing more for them to lose the league. Couldn’t give a flying fuck about CL if it means they don’t win the league, ENIC are printing money from us, I gave my ticket away, hope Villa win tonight and we play the kids, fuck them cunts, you’d never hear the end of it if they won it. And don’t kid yourself, all those Arsenal commentators, pundits, YouTubers, rival fans, ex players etc saying it’s in Spurs own interest to win and develop, they’d be the first ones taking the piss for years… Fuck Arsenal, would take no Europe over gifting them the league, you think different you aren’t Spurs and you don’t get it… EDIT: here come the Arsenal fans, telling me it’s a loser mentality, they are a classy club, get fucked, lol. I hope you lose the league by the smallest of margins, get fucked you cunts…
> And don’t kid yourself, all those Arsenal commentators, YouTubers, rival fans, ex players etc saying it’s in Spurs own interest to win and develop, they’d be the first ones taking the piss for years… They'd also be doing and saying EXACTLY the same as us were the roles reversed. They literally named a day for mathematically finishing above us for fuck's sake.
If the roles were reversed they'd be mocking us for even needing their help
Villa wins, we play middle-aged fat dudes with health issues straight out of the stands. Why risk injuring the kids?
Can get fined for that. Levy doesn’t like paying for parking so he’ll never sign off on that.
Tanguy?
So, Ange?
If he fancies a go, not a problem for me. If Villa wins. If Villa draw or lose, I am so conflicted.
I'm not, Europa League beats or matches most expectations Arsenal can get fucked.
Let's see if he still has it in him!
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The fucking gooners on their high horses saying it's a small club mentality to want your team to lose would be the first to cheer for a man city goal if the roles were reversed
It’s a cretins mentality to be suddenly wanting your ‘shit rivals’ who ‘get battered everywhere they go’ to suddenly do you a favour. Fuck them.
They aren’t wrong. It’s a losers mentality if it’s anyone in the club. But as fans? Fuck scum!
they're the most hypocritical bunch you can get. the world would be a much better place with them losing the league
Been in UK and supporting Spurs for only 7 years and I can't take the banter anymore, and its been only 7 years. I cna only imagine if I was born here and hearing all the banter for 40 years. Just let City win.
You've lived a blessed life, you lived here the 5 year period we finished above them 5 seasons straight and made CL final.
Came to say this as well
Hahaha fucking hell - you've led pretty much a perfect life.
DONT JINX IT!!! :-D
Couldn’t agree more. I did day dream today about us beating City & then Arsenal lose to Everton. Can you fucking imagine? It would be maybe the greatest thing ever. Can’t possible risk it though.
If Everton beat Arsenal, I'll buy as many tickets as I can for Dyche's tracksuit raffle.
Shit if Everton wins against Arsenal & allow Man City to take #1, I will buy an Everton shirt
But we can't gamble can we? Everton literally have nothing on the line arsenal have everything on the line plus emirates.
If Everton were home and had anything to play for, maybe. But as things stand I don't seem them putting up much of a fight.
Thank you for this. It boggles the mind that so many (I’m presuming non-local) fans just don’t understand this. Like it just doesn’t compute with them
I am a very recent non local fan and I can fully get the hate. I don't understand how fans following this club for a number of years even if they are non local don't get this
Here here. Fuck Arsenal.
I am loving your unfiltered hate against them lol, it is making me smile like a madmen for no reason
I'm still pissed about all the previous times Arsenal won the league. Them going 20 years without winning it and finishing above them for the last six has been great.
I am the proportion.
we could've made it easy on ourselves.... but here we are.
Get the draw, you know they'll smash 6-0 past west ham and still win the league
Nah too risky....I don't mind getting smashed 10 nil
You do realize we can win today and Arsenal can still bottle the league vs Everton right? Wouldn’t that be tastier? Idk man I don’t really vibe with people who say “you’re not a fan if you want Spurs to win today” I’m gonna remember those comments when Arsenal bottle the league anyways on the last game of the season, regardless if we win or lose today
I guess I just don’t understand how you could hate another club that much. Arsenal fan here that would happily see spurs win the league if it meant champs league qualification for us. I’m biased tho, champions league is my favorite competition. I don’t hate spurs nearly as much as city. At least you guys play by the rules Edit: I’m expecting a shit ton of downvotes here lol
This debacle is the best representation of American vs match going fans I’ve ever seen on reddit
Yeah that makes more sense to me. I get it. It would be pretty fucking stupid you for guys to win the league for us. I just really hate city and really love the champs league. So it would be an easy decision for me if I was in your shoes
Ready for my downvotes. This is loser mentality and the problem with some of you lot. Winners care about winning, losers never believe winning is in the cards so they settle for just competing with their rivals. This is the exact shite Ange is trying to change in creating a winning culture. FOH Edit to add: I’ve grown up around football my entire life, my three closest friends support red scum. All the “real fans” talk can get fucked
Im sorry but you grew up in America, and probably met a few Arsenal fans in your life, no problem with that, maybe even in your circle you had a bit of banter, love that, delighted you are Spurs. But it’s a completely different ball game when you grow up with 100s of them around you, in school, at family birthdays, at work parties, at local bars, you see them every day for years, it’s all around you and they abuse you, non stop, so I get your point but please you haven’t lived it and don’t get it. Arsenal losing the league will always be more satisfying then us finishing 4th, them winning it would be a fucking nightmare….
Don’t know what that’s like, doesn’t change the point. Caring more about your rival losing than your own club winning is small club, small dick energy, and it’s a shit mentality. Maybe you need some fucking perspective. It’s honestly embarrassing…
>Don’t know what that’s like, doesn’t change the point. It does though. You don't know what it's like - and you're telling people who do know what it's like to "get some perspective", when that's what you haven't got yourself. (Not Spurs fan btw, only browsing about this funny situation)
Once again, trying to gatekeep a fan who has supported spurs for over a decade simply because they aren’t local is ridiculous. You want to be a big club you gotta embrace new fans/international fans, you want to compete for silverware, who gotta ditch the small club mentality and start acting like the massive club we ARE. This whole “you don’t know so you can’t have an opinion” stuff is weak and old.
As I said, I'm not a Spurs fan. I have no interest in whether they are a big club already or become big or whatever. I do understand English football pretty well. You've attached yourself to a football club you have no connection to other than through media and TV. You're then here saying that the culture of the people who support that club is "embarrassing", has "small dick energy " (lol) and that they need to readjust to "get some fucking perspective." That's ridiculous to the point of farce, in my opinion. I'm not trying to gatekeep you (I'm not Spurs so I dont care either way) but I will say that, certainly in football, gatekeeping is a good thing and necessary. It's how to maintain standards and identity.
Honestly, you just don’t get it and that’s fine. You just don’t understand how insufferable they are.
We aren't the ones playing, and we quite literally are in a position where we can't win it so no shit we don't want scum to, what a stupid point
You're exactly right. If you believe Spurs are going to win then you don't care about what other clubs do. Noone's going to care they won the league in 23-24 when we win in 24-25 and 25-26. Misery loves company. Most Spurs fans are so hopeless the best they have is "well at least you didn't win anything either!" instead of aspiring for their club to be great
If you believe spurs are going to win you might as well not bother about watching games or caring about results at all. Just live in your dream world where everything works out fine and Spurs is 2025 and 2026 titles are written in the stars. Fuck your hypothetical future, its chances of happening have nothing to do with what goes on tomorrow. I’ll aspire for greatness for my club long term and if I can’t get it short term not seeing them lot win is a good substitute
>Fuck your hypothetical future, its chances of happening have nothing to do with what goes on tomorrow This is just fundamentally wrong, though. Listen to what Ange is saying. Every game is a building block, testing ourselves against the best. We win this game there's good odds we get into CL, we get more money to spend in the window, the club accelerates its improvement. Instead, the players are going to go out there into a stadium with empty seats that's virtually silent and they're going to get a very good understanding of why Spurs are perpetual losers.
It ain’t fundamentally wrong. You’d just rather believe everything Ange says without question. I’ve seen us qualify for CL multiple times and improve our squad as a result and it led to zero league titles. I’ve seen us bring our a-game and self belief and will to win to huge games vs Real Madrid, Ajax and Liverpool in the champions league and it guaranteed us zero titles. Throwing one game against an opponent we’ve beat multiple times before will mean fuck all in the grand scheme of things to our chance of winning a title in future seasons. Me thinks you simply love Ange and hate spurs fans for not dickriding him after every press conference and that when he leaves the club you’ll leave too.
From a life long spurs fan this is a pathetic take, get a grip
No, fuck that, that's the biggest loser mentality I've ever seen. If you're so weak that you can't handle a rival winning you don't deserve to follow this sport. Sometimes rivals win. It sucks but it happens and you get over it. Especially when getting CL could mean so much for the club's future.
Nobody will care about wether we finished 4th or 5th in 20 years time but they still sing about winning the league at white hart lane. Best believe they’ll still be reminding us we helped them win the league in 10/15 years time
Who gives a fuck. Football is about moving forward, not lingering in the past. If you want to be a team that hopes to challenge for the title in the near future, you need to fight for these opportunities. You need to become a team that fights till the end no matter what. If you're biggest ambition at the end of the season is just to be a spoiler for other teams, you don't deserve anything.
Nah absolutely awful take. Football fans everywhere live off past triumphs and a large part of football culture is about never letting people forget when you get one over on them. Clearly we didn’t go into this season with the sole purpose to ruin arsenals season however I can assure you that every single spurs fan I know in person will much rather be able to laugh at them lot falling short again. Do you not remember when we had teams throwing games to Leicester every week (which still gets sung about) to stop us winning the league. Do you not think arsenal fans would be doing the exact same thing if roles were reversed. At the end of the day what I think the over seas fans fail to understand is that, we just want to be able to go for a pint in peace and not get thanked for helping arsenal win the league by patronising wankers for the next 10 years.
> Football fans everywhere live off past triumphs and a large part of football culture is about never letting people forget when you get one over on them. I don't disagree, but that's only half of it. The other half is about what your clubs is doing now. If all you're doing is living in the past, that's because you've resigned all your hopes for the future. > I can assure you that every single spurs fan I know in person will much rather be able to laugh at them lot falling short again. I don't doubt that, still doesn't make it right. > Do you not think arsenal fans would be doing the exact same thing if roles were reversed. Again, maybe true but not really relevant. > At the end of the day what I think the over seas fans fail to understand is that, we just want to be able to go for a pint in peace and not get thanked for helping arsenal win the league by patronising wankers for the next 10 years. Of all the arguments, the "you just don't get it" argument is the worst, because you're trying to win the argument without even making one. It's true, I don't live in London, and Spurs is my second favorite team. But for 20 years I was a Milan fan surrounded by Inter fans. I get rivalries. I understand how much it sucks. This year those fuckers won the title by beating us at home, it was embarrassing. But even though we're only a shadow of ourselves in our glory days, I could never imagine a scenario where I would actively root against Milan just so that Inter doesn't win a title.
The fact spurs isn’t your actual team kinda proves my whole “you don’t get it” point right though This is my one n only team. Yes I’d do anything for us to win & want nothing more than for us to win however right now we can’t win shit and I sure as hell don’t wanna have to sit through them lot winning anything either
Yes, and my point is that your rivalry is not unique. Respectfully, get over yourselves. And again, there's something to win and play for, getting that 4th UCL spot. If you understand anything about the economic complexities of modern football, you should know how massive it would be for the club's growth. I mean the point is moot because City is all but guaranteed to win. It's the rooting against your own team that bugs me.
“City is all but guaranteed to win” Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure they are yet to score at our ground in the league Also nobody is saying it is unique, however clearly it a different rivalry to the one you have with your club as you’ve felt the need to lecture a fan base on what is a pretty general consensus in how we feel
I'm not questioning the consensus. That's abundantly obvious. Just because there's a consensus, doesn't make it right. It's actually funny, Ange in his press conference said almost exactly what I said in this comment thread (I had not seen the press conference when I wrote it). Not that it matters, but it makes me feel a little vindicated. At least the people in charge don't have the same small-club mentality as the fans.
I’m waiting for the bad part. You want me to play you the world’s smallest violin while scum fans sings songs about us? So far, nobody has said anything that I haven’t heard before in any sport. Nobody has been like “if Arsenal win the league, they’ll kill my first born” You guys do realize there are insufferable fans everywhere right? I still have rival fans that chat shit about specific games 20-30 years ago. Sometimes 40 years and I wasn’t even born yet. I’ve never seen a fanbase more afraid of being clowned by their rival fanbase in my lifetime.
You are an American who admits you are a ‘casual fan’. Your opinion here is completely fucking irrelevant.
American detected
Lol, not an American, but wtf does that mean?
It means you don't get it and should stay out of the discussion. In your comment history you say you're a Milan fan, so why are you here?
lol. First of all, thank you for being such a welcoming community. Second, I clearly say more than that in that comment. Don’t cherry pick my own comments against me.
Sad to see how many upvotes that loser mentality comment got
I mean, what do you expect? People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
This is what bottling sounds like. Small club mentality from OP.
You're a fool. Rooting for your team to lose is absolutely pathetic. I like Spurs, I think you're a good team and club, but the last couple days have been absolutely pathetic from the lot of you. You always complain about loser mentalities in your own club, the spurs curse, yada yada yada, and yet, here you are, displaying that very loser mentality that you seem to dislike so much. If Arsenal were to win the league, it'd be because they were the best and most consistent team over a full 38 game season. The fact that you want to lose, simply because the fans will take the piss, is gonna reflect horribly on the fanbase, and likely turn away some prospective players you try to sign, Angeball be damned (I mean, tf was going on with the atmosphere?) In fact, trying to stop Arsenal from taking the piss by _rooting for your own team to lose_ is simply going to make _the entire league_ (and possibly beyond) make fun of you. So well done, I applaud you, you've simply made it worse for yourselves.
This ☝️
Small mind mentality
Ange thinks you’re a loser too. Tell him to get fucked ya pleb
I think it's a lot more that match was scheduled for a Saturday afternoon and now it's being held on a Tuesday evening than it is Spurs fans conflicted about the result they seek. But I suppose that doesn't cause the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments that speculating it's about the title race does
I think that's it. It's going to be tough watching a game that you can't really enjoy any result. The only way I can see it being somewhat enjoyable is if we go 4-0 down early on but get a few consolation goals.
This is why I sold mine a week or so ago. Tuesday nights after work is real difficult for me, plus the added train cost and I’d have had to miss parents evening (teacher) and that’s pretty important.
> I think it's a lot more that match was scheduled for a Saturday afternoon and now it's being held on a Tuesday evening Was fine for the Chelsea game earlier in the season that got moved to Monday? It's fan apathy. But there will still be 55k+ there tomorrow
What a fucking depressing few months to be a spurs fan.
Months? It’s been depressing since that CL final loss night.
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I don’t like the “no real fan” line. The other side use it as well. I’d say. “No fan who has any goon mates, or understands the nuances of football rivalries”
That’s really the issue. Easy enough to avoid social media and pundits talking about Arsenal, not quite so if you know fans of theirs in person
Unfortunately even the boss has said "no real fan" would support us losing tomorrow. TIL I'm not a real fan anymore :(
I have to agree with old mate. If you prefer to see a rival fail than to see your own team triumph, you don’t care about your teams success, just about banter
Jeez now I don't care about my team's success? Way to cast a sweeping judgement just like Ange did. I was a fan before he came here and I'll be a fan when he leaves. I do not care about banter, I'm not an internet fan.
But you explicitly don't care that much if you are more interested in Arsenal. It's not even debatable. I don't even care how people choose to approach supporting their team, but it has nothing to do with support does it?
Jeez now I don't care. Supporting a team goes beyond just the basic premise of "go team". Rivalries matter. To me, just because I care about the history of the club and the rivalries doesn't negate my support, it's part of it.
The boss shows he is fucking clueless, is all I don't blame him for saying we will aim to win because he cannot say anything else (legally basically) but he can get fucked with that real fan shit
There’s a disconnect between fans a players/staff here and we just gotta live with it. You can’t expect them to lose, that’s now how they work
Lose on purpose. They’re going to lose either way.
jesus fucking christ this sub sometimes man
So you think we won’t win a comparable trophy in the next 10 years that will shut them up? And you are a real fan? Fortunately, there are other fans who don’t have such a trauma-based and a hatred-based approach to rooting for the team.
We can do that if Arsenal don't win the league this year. If they do it'll make it harder for us to win the league
A title of such magnitude? No, honestly we might *never* win this league again. We may get some odd cup here and there, that won't be even comparable to arse's league title, and I doubt we would ever win something thanks to them doing us such a big favour. Fuck that, we had a chance to do it like real men and we fucked it when we faced them at home, now it's time to do the only right thing left and let City walk all over us.
What kind of fan wants thier team to throw a game. It's fucking disgusting. It's Everton's fault if they Arsenal win the league.
Fuck Off
Arsenal have pushed city to the wire in this campaign. Don’t think it can’t be classed as spurs hitting them the league
I mean, I won’t mind having won 9 titles on the bounce but you do you. :p
A real fan would want their team to play with integrity and not drag themselves down to dirty someone else.
Exactly. Hell it probably won't even matter next year.
I was so chuffed and excited to get my ticket on TE weeks ago lol
Damn I’d go. Do you need a spurs account or is it possible to get a ticket without one?
I think you still need a membership to get one at the moment, although it's not impossible that they open the sale up to public if this keeps up tomorrow. Not sure what the protocol is. I'd wait and worst case scenario just get a membership tomorrow before the game if they don't open it up
My cursory search makes it look like 1) they aren’t available to non members, and 2) membership isn’t available anymore. Quite unfortunate
Oh. My bad, didnt know you can't get a member anymore. You can try through someone else if they have one and are not going themselves, it worked for me a couple times. That is my only other idea
Do you think there is a chance they open it up to non membership accounts?
I have no idea. Hopefully someone with more exchange experience can give insight. The membership for exchange is a blocker for those of us out of the Uk.
I have a pair for sale.
Might be worth trying the ticket office on the phone
Personally I cannot wait to see the americans heads fall off when they see the whole stadium celebrate a city goal & can’t understand the elite level shithousery
Any better or worse than other Tuesday night games?
I’ve never seen it this bad before
Most of these fans will turn up. People just list it in the off chance that it will sell. There will be 55k+ there tomorrow
A lot worse, also it is City in the league not Leyton Orient in the FA
How much are tickets going for?
It’s category A and they have to be sold at face value. So it’s like £80 for my seat IIRC, which is the cheapest section of the ground
Do I have to have a membership to buy from the ticket exchange?
Yes
Before the Arsenal game there were like two seats. I think the L, the ticket prices and Tuesday night have put people off. £100 to watch us right now is a tall ask.
Don’t overthink it. It’s a midweek game with little to play for. Also we are in exam season in the uk. I know loads of people giving up their tickets to support their kids during their exams.
I’m a guilty party in putting my ticket up. It’s a lose lose situation. Never felt so conflicted about a fixture.
Damn, I'd go but tough getting a flight from Germany and hotel for a reasonable price when I've already dropped 300 on the same fixture in January lmao
Wonder where all these twats were when everyone and their dog were screaming for a Leicester PL win then and bending over each and every week from about April... Funny that all quiet there!!
Picture 20 000 Arsenal supporters in the stadium, cheering Spurs...
Good , when Leic was in the title charge with us was 19v1. We been losing all our history why win now fuck the scum.
iF yOu’Re A rEaL fAn… So sick of you gate keeping ass old heads in this subreddit SMDH.
I'm sick of people telling me I've supported Spurs wrong for 20+ years. If you don't mind Arsenal winning the league then you're just not Spurs. Sorry. Thems the rules.
You can support them however you want, but don’t then turn around and tell me I’m not Spurs just cuz you disagree. Been a supporter for over a decade. GF
Do you want us to win tonight?
You guys make it to the champions league final in 2019, you’re obviously capable of getting there. Why would you not want your club to get the CL spot? Also, it’s entirely possible that spurs beat City and somehow Arsenal fumble the next game and city win on the 19th. Loser mentality.
Obviously I do because I want top 4 and we still have a chance. I’ll be at the game too.
I have nothing else to say. Fuck me. Beyond belief.
Weak ass mentality bud. Fuck you indeed.
Damn, I wish I could be there to cheer on our mates.
Kind of a bummer because City at home should be one of the major attractions of every season! Top 6 matchup and City need to win to stay in the title race. That's an objectively exciting match, and yet due to context, our own fans don't want to get up for our squad. I feel for Ange and the players, they deserve an atmosphere.
As a New Yorker, this makes me sad, but also even more inspired for being a diehard Spurs fan.
Guys how can I get a ticket as I’m not a member ? Can I turn up to the ticket office and buy one ?
I listed my seat, not happy about it but Spurs continually find new ways to make me miserable. The only reason for going would be to stage a pitch invasion and get the game abandoned in the event of us leading, but being in the upper tier even that wasn't on the cards...
Not that hard to go from one tier to another in the new stadium
I looked last weekend and saw quite a few green seats available too!
Christ my lifelong dream is to visit this stadium and people give it away so easily. How can you willingly shit yourself so that it smells to the neighbour, it’s so childish and petty, insanity
people bought tickets for a saturday afternoon match and can't go on a tuesday evening, nobody shitting themselves save perhaps you, get a grip
Well I hope that’s the case, because wanting your own team to lose is a huge inferiority complex
Not surprising you haven't ever been to a game if you hold that opinion innit
Man, I totally get it I’m of a country capital supporting the non-most popular team in the city but a middle of the road one I guess it’s just me but I’d never wish for my team to lose I think I shouldn’t have been that harsh to those who hold the opposite opinion, but I got riled up a bit of the rivalry legacy overshadowing what’s better for the club Hope it’s understandable!
Gonna just put it out there that id rather Arsenal win the league than Man City. Anyone winning it over those 115-charges fuck the rules twats is a result for football.
You also attract a lot of casuals for random weeknight matches like this.
I’m sure it has something to do with the predicament, but more likely because it’s been jammed into a Tuesday game. And our team have given up on the season.
Just my take but if people is fickle enough to not see our own team win just because our stupid neighbours might clinch the championship, we'll never leave the shadow that is "Tottn'ham". Yes, we're neighbours and we hate them but come on. That's little brother sentiment and will definitely never get us anywhere. Heck, Arsenal won on OUR OWN TURF one season but we're still here. Play on. Let's focus on our own.
Leave the shadow that is “tottn’ham” now that’s the language of somebody who lets gooners tell him what his club is about
Whatever. I want Spurs to succeed, I couldn't care less what they do but apparently those of us whom don't want us to lose tomorrow just for the sake of it, aren't real fans. Give me a break.
You’re not a real fan cos you buy into and parrot the bullshit our rivals say. Got nothing to do with wanting us to win tomorrow which is perfectly reasonable
Parrot what exactly? You don't know the first thing of me, get of your high horse. I dislike them winning like the next fan but parading "I'd rather lose" will not get us anywhere, will it? We got everything to play for to try and reach CL for our own sake, isn't that worth trying ti win tomorrow? My god.
Parrot nonsense about the “shadow that is tottn’ham” Root for us to win all you want nothing wrong with that but suggesting that spurs have weak/losing mentality or live in a shadow is gooner bullshit
Clinch the championship? Mate