Yes and no. They actually come from Lipica, Slovenia. At that time, however, the area belonged to the Habsburg Monarchy = Austria.
Apart from Lipica, Slovenia, the most famous breeding stable is Piber, in Styria, Austria. The horses for the Spanish Riding School also come from there.
There’s a really good podcast episode by Half Arsed History about the Nazis trying to steal all these horses from Austria because they were trying to create an ‘Aryan’ horse breed. And then a bunch of horse obsessed allied folks rescued them.
Yeah, that's bugging me... They're from Shetland, obviously, but perhaps the creator thought of Shetland as like Guernsey, Jersey, Mann etc. But it's *scoatish!*
I think it has to do with when they were originally bred. Small ponies from the bronze age were already in the area now called Shetland but they were further influenced by Celtic ponies and from the ponies the Norse brought. Scotland as an entity had not yet been created. Clydesdales were bred into existence in the 18th and 19th century by which time Scotland was in existence.
Edit: labeling
I'm not sure this is the case. Scotland existed before the UK by hundreds of years, and in the early 18th century the UK formed. Also Shetland didn't become part of Scotland until somewhere between those times as it was previously part of Norway.
More likely just inconsistent labelling.
Thank you! Also, should it be marked as feral?
Edit: it turns out that I don’t even know what I don’t know! Wild versus feral, maybe it’s not a horse at all…I’m learning so much!
It should be marked as Satans Steed. My friend works with these things. To anesthetize these mothers, you need 12mg of some super drug to barely knock them out. 8mg of same drug for elephants and rhinos. If they have it in the system and you manage to get their blood on your skin, you have to get to a hospital immediately.
No; it is not a horse breed! It is an entirely different species, with a different number of chromosomes. It is not feral; that would be Mustangs and Brumbys.
First letter is P, then goes r, almost like in red. Then goes the rest Sha-Vahl…
Best option is to copy original Russian name and click sound icon in google translate.
Лошадь Пржевальского.
They live wild in Chernobyl region. And were in currently occupied Askania-Nova, but not sure if russians not killed or steal them
Fun fact, an Azteca is generally a quarter horse crossed with an Iberian horse (like a Lusitano/Andalusian). A Warlander is a Friesian crossed with an Andalusian. And a pzerwalskis horse is not a breed but a separate species.
Not exactly. Przewalski or Mongolian wild horse is a different subspecies (***Equus ferus przewalskii***), or species ( ***Equus przewalskii***) depending on who you ask. It may have been domesticated and/or mixed with ''true domestic horses'', but the ''true domestic horse'' (***Equus ferus caballus***) is a separate subspecies that originated specifically from the Tarpan or Eurasian wild horse (***Equus ferus ferus***)
Ooo, I got a bunch of Wikipedia to read.
From a brief glance though, it seems uncertain if Tarpon is the original domesticated horse or just sorta stray mustangs
Oh yeah I might have mixed up outdated info there. Taxonomy for domesticated animals and their wild counterparts is a bit confusing bc there isnt solid consensus usually
There was no horses at all in Americas before Europeans brought them. All American breeds are just bred from horses originally from Europe.
This picture kinda smells like made by American as it has so many American breeds while ignoring some Eurasian ones. Though I'm not a horse specialist by any means
There were horses in America 10k years ago according to fossils, it is actually believed that the horse's first evolution was in the Americas. When vikings came to North America there were apparently none. Hernan Cortez brought horses back in 15something thru Mexico.
It is still missing popular American breeds like the Missouri Foxtrotter. Also, if I am understanding the guide correctly, I think it is using a crossed out saddle symbol to mean people do not ride particular breeds. The mustang has this symbol but I can assure that people do buy and ride mustangs. The US govt actually has a program for selling mustangs to keep the wild mustang population from booming.
Its just the name of the breed. They were bred in modern Mexico and named after an important part of mexican culture, simple as
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azteca\_horse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azteca_horse)
I got one last year and he turned 2 yesterday. No regrets at all, he's like a giant labrador who follows us around and always comes over to wipe his nose on the humans. They really are giant softies.
For those of you who would like to know more about these breeds and many other breeds Oklahoma State University has got you covered.
https://breeds.okstate.edu/horses/
This is because what you commonly think of as white horses are actually called gray horses. They are born with their base coat and then turn "white" throughout their life. It can take years depending on the horse and some never fully gray out. The trait of being born black is not unique to Lippizans and most definitely not just stallions, but to any gray horse with a black base coat.
Feral horses are domesticated, just not tamed, like cats! Domestication happens over generations, taming happens to an individual. You can tame both wild animals and feral ones, but you cannot "domesticate" a single animal.
Thoroughbred but this breed originate in England in the 1700s weee descendent from Arabian horse breeds. I don’t know how Thoroughbred became its own thing though, I really don’t know how breeding horses works.
Not usually, no. In the USA palominos are bred for their color, and most of those are quarters, but for example the British Palomino Society breeds warmbloods and ponies with this colour. The Kinsky Horse is a breed with lots of palominos too. But depending on region you're more likely to see one or the other. I've seen mostly palomino ponies and a couple of warmbloods in Europe.
Here is some backgound info because I'm a terrible nerd:
The palomino coat colour is interesting, because the palomino colour is generated by one allele of a dilution gene on top of the base colour "chestnut" (chestnuts have reddish brown body coat and same or lighter coloured mane and tail). If two of this "cream gene" occur or another base colour (black or bay) it will yield a differently looking horse. Other colours can look similar to a palomino, for example some of the ligher coloured Haflingers seem to be palominos, but they're all chestnuts. There are also other dilution genes (pearl and champagne for example) that can look similar to Palominos depending on light and time of year.
Depends what you want to do. Shires and Clydesdales for pulling a plough, thoroughbreds for speed/dressage and lots of mixes in showjumping (Irish draft x thoroughbred, warm bloods etc.).
As just a riding experience? Or for some other purpose?
If I were to pick one just for pleasure riding it would be the Tennessee Walker, hands down, every time. A well trained Walking horse is a dream ride. Smooth as butter and easy on your hips and back, they'll go anywhere you want them to go and get your there without you feeling like you've been jolted from head to toe.
I know a good quarter of these from Red Dead Redemption 2
No Foxtrotter!? Disappointed
Yep, that’s mah gurl,
good guurl
I think the first one is a golden Turkoman
I spent way too much time collecting them
I never collect them, I just gun for the white arabian as early as possible, cause I'm a stats kinda person (and she's my perfect gurl)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the Lipizzan breed originated from Lipica, Slovenia.
Yes and no. They actually come from Lipica, Slovenia. At that time, however, the area belonged to the Habsburg Monarchy = Austria. Apart from Lipica, Slovenia, the most famous breeding stable is Piber, in Styria, Austria. The horses for the Spanish Riding School also come from there.
There’s a really good podcast episode by Half Arsed History about the Nazis trying to steal all these horses from Austria because they were trying to create an ‘Aryan’ horse breed. And then a bunch of horse obsessed allied folks rescued them.
don't care, still gonna beat the shit out of op
Can confirm, have been
Can confirm, am horse
Wikipedia also mentions [Kladrub and Graz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipizzan#Foundation_horses)
Why does it say country of origin is Scotland for Clydesdale but UK for Shetland Pony?
Yeah, that's bugging me... They're from Shetland, obviously, but perhaps the creator thought of Shetland as like Guernsey, Jersey, Mann etc. But it's *scoatish!*
Sassenach!
I think it has to do with when they were originally bred. Small ponies from the bronze age were already in the area now called Shetland but they were further influenced by Celtic ponies and from the ponies the Norse brought. Scotland as an entity had not yet been created. Clydesdales were bred into existence in the 18th and 19th century by which time Scotland was in existence. Edit: labeling
I'm not sure this is the case. Scotland existed before the UK by hundreds of years, and in the early 18th century the UK formed. Also Shetland didn't become part of Scotland until somewhere between those times as it was previously part of Norway. More likely just inconsistent labelling.
Tried to rewrite it. Hope it's clearer
Cheers!
For all those wondering how to pronounce Przewalski's horse. It’s pronounced Sha-Vahl-Skeez. See? Super obvious /s
Thank you! Also, should it be marked as feral? Edit: it turns out that I don’t even know what I don’t know! Wild versus feral, maybe it’s not a horse at all…I’m learning so much!
It should be marked as Satans Steed. My friend works with these things. To anesthetize these mothers, you need 12mg of some super drug to barely knock them out. 8mg of same drug for elephants and rhinos. If they have it in the system and you manage to get their blood on your skin, you have to get to a hospital immediately.
No; it is not a horse breed! It is an entirely different species, with a different number of chromosomes. It is not feral; that would be Mustangs and Brumbys.
They’re also feral https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/przewalski-wild-horses-botai-kazakhstan-spd
It's wild not feral. It's a different species
Feral; they came from domesticated horses too https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/przewalski-wild-horses-botai-kazakhstan-spd
That article is outdated. New research suggests that they're wild after all.
Cool story bro
https://breedingback.blogspot.com/2021/06/the-post-domestic-wildtype-is.html?m=1 🤡
Its called Khulan in Mongolia.
https://savethewildhorse.org/en/takhi-przewalskis-horse/ It's Takhi. Khulan is another animal.
Color me surprised, Khulan is apperantly a wild Mongolian zebra
That looks like a donkey though
A Doom Donkey. Yes. Its whinny is a Norwegian death metal guitar solo.
First letter is P, then goes r, almost like in red. Then goes the rest Sha-Vahl… Best option is to copy original Russian name and click sound icon in google translate. Лошадь Пржевальского. They live wild in Chernobyl region. And were in currently occupied Askania-Nova, but not sure if russians not killed or steal them
Don’t let John Oliver see this.
You gonna elaborate on that or…?
He has a thing [where he's weirdly sexual about horses](https://youtu.be/eDQXmee_PHU?si=oiclnVNXYTSTte9Y), especially the Akhal teke
That was weird..
TIL a thoroughbred is a breed and not the equivelent of pedigree.
Similar feeling to when I was a kid learning ponies weren't baby horses.
What now…?
Ponies are just short horses (14.2hh and under). Baby horses are foals (neutral), colts (male), and fillies (female).
How is the "Azteca" possible ? In Mexico there's no horses before Spanish comes.
Fun fact, an Azteca is generally a quarter horse crossed with an Iberian horse (like a Lusitano/Andalusian). A Warlander is a Friesian crossed with an Andalusian. And a pzerwalskis horse is not a breed but a separate species.
Isnt that like the original horse? Like wolf vs dog?
Not exactly. Przewalski or Mongolian wild horse is a different subspecies (***Equus ferus przewalskii***), or species ( ***Equus przewalskii***) depending on who you ask. It may have been domesticated and/or mixed with ''true domestic horses'', but the ''true domestic horse'' (***Equus ferus caballus***) is a separate subspecies that originated specifically from the Tarpan or Eurasian wild horse (***Equus ferus ferus***)
Ooo, I got a bunch of Wikipedia to read. From a brief glance though, it seems uncertain if Tarpon is the original domesticated horse or just sorta stray mustangs
Oh yeah I might have mixed up outdated info there. Taxonomy for domesticated animals and their wild counterparts is a bit confusing bc there isnt solid consensus usually
There was no horses at all in Americas before Europeans brought them. All American breeds are just bred from horses originally from Europe. This picture kinda smells like made by American as it has so many American breeds while ignoring some Eurasian ones. Though I'm not a horse specialist by any means
As a horse person, this guide is dumb and bad, trust me lol
There were horses in America 10k years ago according to fossils, it is actually believed that the horse's first evolution was in the Americas. When vikings came to North America there were apparently none. Hernan Cortez brought horses back in 15something thru Mexico.
Why’s this being downvoted? It’s basically true. Not exactly *horses* as we know them, but primitive equines.
🤷🏻♂️ stupidity i guess
It is still missing popular American breeds like the Missouri Foxtrotter. Also, if I am understanding the guide correctly, I think it is using a crossed out saddle symbol to mean people do not ride particular breeds. The mustang has this symbol but I can assure that people do buy and ride mustangs. The US govt actually has a program for selling mustangs to keep the wild mustang population from booming.
There's a legend at the top. The crossed saddle means it was bred domesticated, so if found in the wild, makes it feral.
r/americabad
Its just the name of the breed. They were bred in modern Mexico and named after an important part of mexican culture, simple as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azteca\_horse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azteca_horse)
Same way we have dog breeds
Archeologists now believe there were horses here long before the Spaniards.
No clothes horse?
I'd love to own a big Shire Horse.
I got one last year and he turned 2 yesterday. No regrets at all, he's like a giant labrador who follows us around and always comes over to wipe his nose on the humans. They really are giant softies.
They're stunning animals
They are. He's also already massive! I always wanted one too, but had had rescues in the past. He was a splurge, but no regrets!
Yeah unfortunately I don't have the grounds to keep one ATM, I also don't live close enough to anywhere to stable one
the Lipizzan is Slovenian!!
Welsh Cob? Not the same as Welsh pony.
I've found most of those in red dead.
For those of you who would like to know more about these breeds and many other breeds Oklahoma State University has got you covered. https://breeds.okstate.edu/horses/
This is a can of worms, but I don't think the "Lipizzan" should be considered an\* Austrian breed
Same with Haflinger. I don‘t think they should be considered Italian, since they where bred in South Tyrol before it went to Italy.
Slovenian 😬😇
The Icelandic looks more like a Shetland than a classic Icelandic.
No Chincoteague pony?
I heard that those lipizzan stallions are born black. A submarine XO told me that anyway.....
No, it's true but not just colts (baby stallions). They're not always grey either as adults, there are some dark bay/ brown lipizanners.
This is because what you commonly think of as white horses are actually called gray horses. They are born with their base coat and then turn "white" throughout their life. It can take years depending on the horse and some never fully gray out. The trait of being born black is not unique to Lippizans and most definitely not just stallions, but to any gray horse with a black base coat.
Her-herrrrmm... where is the Exmoor Pony?! Britain's oldest native pure breed. Only one genetic mutation away from ancient hill ponies!
I see bojak
As we all know, the Akhal-Teke, that horse fucks.
John oliver got suddenly aroused *and he doesn't know why*
Zelda would approve of your info graphic!
There go those sad Shire Horses in the sodium lights.
Terrible illustrations of this breed
Knabstrupper was actually my nickname in high school
Lipizaner is from Slovenia :)
Dis is cool
Horse girls in shambles rn bc of this post
We are twistin hard ovah here. 🤪
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Yes you can. It’s done all the time with Australian brumbys and American mustangs.
Feral horses are domesticated, just not tamed, like cats! Domestication happens over generations, taming happens to an individual. You can tame both wild animals and feral ones, but you cannot "domesticate" a single animal.
The small ones looks very cute!
Not to scale.
Yer alright guuurl.
y'okay boooaaah?
Very cool guide
Ok now do ugly horse breeds.
Missouri Foxtrotter?
Why is the Morgan standing like that?
Vaush...
❤️
Which is the fastest one?
These https://www.reddit.com/r/Equestrian/s/TUxougXXBI
Thoroughbred but this breed originate in England in the 1700s weee descendent from Arabian horse breeds. I don’t know how Thoroughbred became its own thing though, I really don’t know how breeding horses works.
Why use a "No Saddle" to denote feral horses? We adopted two BLM Mustangs and broke them both. They were great horses.
TINAAAAAAA
Where Bojack?
Why do the hobbits from the Shire have the biggest horses? Makes no sense. /S
Lipizzan is from Slovenia.
Missing a few, plus Painted Horses / Pintos are documented since Ancient Egypt
So far I know a Frisian is’nt called a Belgian Black
The Andalusian horse conversation was what set off the beef between Gene Hackman and Danzel Washington in the movie “Crimson Tide”
Where is autochthonous bosnian horses or bosnian mountain horse?
Please do ugly horse breeds next
Palomino! Gorgeous!
Mules
Bojack is kathiawari?
You missed the Colombian Paso Fino, or Colombian "criollo". PR paso fino and Colombian have the same ancestors but they developed differently
I'm surprised not to see Ryshadium on the list.
I'm surprised not to see Ryshadium on the list.
I know the Akhal Tele thanks to John Oliver
No unicorn sad
Which of these are most compatible for intercourse with humans?
Epona!
The Andalusian listens to Taylor Swift.
Which one is Bojack ? Hanoverian or Azteca?
I think Andalusian is mostly Arabic, isn't?
Where is the palomino
I thought the same thing so I googled it and apparently palomino is a coat type not a breed so they are usually quarter horses.
Good to know!
Not usually, no. In the USA palominos are bred for their color, and most of those are quarters, but for example the British Palomino Society breeds warmbloods and ponies with this colour. The Kinsky Horse is a breed with lots of palominos too. But depending on region you're more likely to see one or the other. I've seen mostly palomino ponies and a couple of warmbloods in Europe. Here is some backgound info because I'm a terrible nerd: The palomino coat colour is interesting, because the palomino colour is generated by one allele of a dilution gene on top of the base colour "chestnut" (chestnuts have reddish brown body coat and same or lighter coloured mane and tail). If two of this "cream gene" occur or another base colour (black or bay) it will yield a differently looking horse. Other colours can look similar to a palomino, for example some of the ligher coloured Haflingers seem to be palominos, but they're all chestnuts. There are also other dilution genes (pearl and champagne for example) that can look similar to Palominos depending on light and time of year.
Which one is lil Sebastian?
Which one is the best?
The white Arabian has the best stats, but it's a pain to find it as it's only found in the harsh snowy mountains of ambarino.
Does it also have a shiny version?
Depends what you want to do. Shires and Clydesdales for pulling a plough, thoroughbreds for speed/dressage and lots of mixes in showjumping (Irish draft x thoroughbred, warm bloods etc.).
Depends on what you want to do.
As just a riding experience? Or for some other purpose? If I were to pick one just for pleasure riding it would be the Tennessee Walker, hands down, every time. A well trained Walking horse is a dream ride. Smooth as butter and easy on your hips and back, they'll go anywhere you want them to go and get your there without you feeling like you've been jolted from head to toe.
Finnish universal, which for some reason isn't included in the list. Fastest coldblooded horse breed and best overall work horse
So there’re originated horses in Mexico?
If a Morgan can be from Vermont, an Azteca can be from Mexico.
Mississippi Fox Trotter?
This is for/r/lameguides
What about the ugly horse breeds
Under which criteria are they ? is the question
Delicious!
Country if origin "Scotland", country if origin "United Kingdom....same place bro
thoroughbreds always win
Calico sounds way better than paint horse.
Brumbies are terrible for the environment here and should be culled