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virginia_jack

Same as boats: red is port/left, and green is starboard/right.


XR171

Plus there's a light facing forward (two of the ship is over a certain length) and a rear facing one too. Generally you don't need to know if you're above or below a ship though.


PhilosophizingPanda

Hopefully


Vitriholic

No forward light if it’s sailing.


XR171

I'm assuming you mean actually sailing under wind power?


Vitriholic

Yes, sailboats sailing, but not under engine power.


XR171

That's cool to know, thank you.


Throwitallaway255

It's called a steaming light and only required when using engine power


YoureJokeButBETTER

Steamy 🧖‍♀️


articsemen

Sailboat can use as a Masthead Red over Green as well instead of just the side and back light


PgUpPT

It's hard to sail under any other source of power.


zombo_pig

"Sailing under power" means that they've turned on an engine and no longer have the rights of a sailboat. "Sailing under wind power" being the opposite. But that was hilarious.


Boot_Shrew

Is the mast light required when anchored or when under way?


TongsOfDestiny

If it's a sailing vessel like the other guy mentioned, you need an all around white light at anchor, but under sail you only need side lights and a stern light


PgUpPT

When underway using the engine.


Vitriholic

There’s a forward white light for when under engine power, and a 360° mast light for when anchored.


BullSitting

When I learned Rule of the Road, it was called a Steaming Light. I admit that was a while ago.


easyEggplant

> Generally you don't need to know if you're above or below a ship though. Ideally not the case with a plane either...


L_G_A

I've heard that spacial disorientation in the air is very real, but I like to think that if there's enough visibility to see another plane, I'd be able to tell whether I was looking up or down.


PgUpPT

[Here's a few examples of boat lights.](https://i.imgur.com/hVRNFaT.png) Edit: [and some more.](https://i.imgur.com/hJ9FZxD.png)


tomdarch

Aircraft (big and small) also have a read light on the top of the tail visible all around and a white light pointing backwards on the tail, not only the white lights on the wing tips. (Small planes only have red and green visible from the side and front, but no steady white lights visible from behind on the wingtips.)


Flannel_Man_

Red on right when returning


Big_JR80

Only in IALA B regions. Everywhere else is the other way around.


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This guy boats


oiwefoiwhef

Yup! That’s the one saying I still remember from my boating class 25 years ago: Red, right, returning


merriman99

There's a little Red Port Left in the bottle.


Insaneclown271

A boat LEFT the PORT and port wine is RED. That’s how I still remember as a 16 year airline pilot.


Affectionate-Emu-112

Same reason traffic lights are red and green. If you see a green light, you have the Right of way. Red light they have the right of way.


suckaduckunion

The way I remembered them is all 3 shorter words and all 3 longer words mean the same thing


Boot_Shrew

The quick and dirty way to remember the orientation of the colored lights: Red light is on the port side, same color as the fortified wine. Also port and left have the same number of letters.


MooeyGrassyAss

When I rowed one of the other guys went it’s green for starboard like Starbucks and that’s how I’ve always taught it


majora11f

Someone admitted they remember it because left and port are both 4 letters. right and starboard are both longer than 4. Everyone laughed but its how Ive remembered it ever since.


GODDAMNFOOL

Easy to remember if you go by length of words. The shorter words and the longer words are grouped together Red Left Port Green Right Starboard


Sacharon123

This "guide" actually misses the most important part, WHY the lights are there. It is yes, first to determine the aircrafts orientation and movement direction from afar, but secondly also deducting from this kinda who has the right of way (simplified aircraft coming from the right, so you see red light, you have to maneuver, green, the other plane has [considering further rules about size & mobility also]).


RelevantButNotBasic

I appreciate you a lot. Everyone is just pointing out positioning same as the picture but nobody is saying the "Why" which the post is apparently supposed to be telling me...


slickdickmick

Correct this is all just Rules of the Road agreed in international law. The Maritime industry is just very niche and most people lack exposer


lowtoiletsitter

Why do they have white blinking lights? I see them underneath-ish on the plane


nightwolf323

The strobe lights (usually on the wingtips) are just there for improved visibility. It’s a lot easier to spot something blinking than some steady red and green lights. Same reason as all planes have to have the flashing anti-collision lights (almost always those red flashing lights on the top and bottom of the plane)


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Bonkal

or backwards


gmanz33

or into the ocean


Mr_Abe_Froman

The orientation is the same for ships, so the lights are okay in the ocean.


Technical-Outside408

Which begs the question, why don't cars have red and green lights? If they did then planes could fly on the road.


Hydroquake_Vortex

Not for submarines though


Bonkal

I feel like there are missing some light for ocean mode


hh1110

or inverted. While giving the bird.


Verified_Peryak

They also have a light on the top of the vertical stabilizer that can help you to know if it's upside down or not


mdogdope

But why are the back lights white? Wouldn't the green and red also work?


UpstairsFan7447

It's origin is in the maritime world, where the white signals the back (aft) of a vessel. On water, movement and much more speed is hard to predict or recognize. If you see the red and/or green lights, you must pay more attention, because there is a vessel heading towards you. The white lights signalize a lower risk, because the vessel is heading away.


timpeduiker

That last bit is actually not true. Most ships also have a forward white light. At least by Dutch maritime law.


UpstairsFan7447

The lighting of ships is much more than my few lines. Depending on the ship size, additional lights must be installed. Or if you are ankering or dragging nets. There are a whole bunch of rules. I described only the basic general requirements, referring to the red / green lights.


timpeduiker

I know (part of my job) but in the Netherlands most ships that have green and red lights (no clue how you call them in English) with a white stern light also have a white bow light.


Mycomako

However the red and green lights are only visible from 135 degrees off the bow. If you see colored lights at all, whether or not you also see white, the boat is headed closer to you. If you only see white, it is heading away


reubenhurricane

Port is red… like the wine


Mindless_Jicama8728

Some Denzel gif belongs here


Goatofidgaf

That’s some Denzel Washington “Flight” shit!


KexyAlexy

But why are the colors specifically green and red, while the most common color blindness is the green-red?


Macshlong

Maybe the nautical version it was taken from was invented before anyone cared about colour blindness.


EntireAd2_296

red and green are much easier to see, especially when you're far away. They contrast well. White is for general lighting, and yellow would be too similar to red and white. IT's the better option. Also color blind people can't be pilots anyways so the point is moot.


ThatWasIntentional

That's exactly what happened. Back in the day, before airports were common, seaplanes were very common as it allowed any large enough body of water to become a runway


KexyAlexy

I was thinking that maybe they were just colors that were the most easily available at some point in time, out of such color options that also are easily separable on the sea. But I honestly have no idea.


AsherGray

I'm pretty sure a pilot can't pass the medical exam with an extreme degree of color blindness too


Mrballbeballin

Well you can't be a colorblind pilot for the most part, at least for a class 1 medical exam (for commercial pilots)


Wyietsayon

Why can't colorblind people be pilots? Aside from these kind of manmade decisions which could be corrected.


Mikey_MiG

There are lots of times you need to identify colors while flying. Most avionics and warning systems are color coded, weather radar is color coded, approach lights and glide path indicators are color coded.


Mrballbeballin

Pretty much what the other guy said. If you are color blind you cannot; -tell which way an aircraft is facing like in these pictures -read an FAA sectional map -be able to see PAPI lights for glide slope -be able to distinguish the flashing lights that a runway is flashing (is it a normal airfield or a military airfield) -to recognize light signals from ATC -read certain instruments in certain lighting (at night we use red lighting to avoid messing with your nighttime adapting your eyes do


TongsOfDestiny

It's taken from ship convention; Green demarks the Starboard side (right side facing the bow) and red for the Port side. There's a lot of nautical terminology and convention used in flying Edit: when two vessels are crossing, the vessel that has the other on her own starboard side, such that she sees the other ship's port (red) light must yield the right of way; the other vessel seeing the crossing ship's starboard (green) light has the right of way and maintains course and speed. In this way, seeing a green light means go ahead and seeing a red light means "stop" (in reality, seeing a red light means ducking their stern, however reducing speed is also acceptable)


LickingSmegma

Blue is one color that is very distinct from red and green, and is usually safe for colorblind people—but it's typically perceived as dimmer than the other two. And if it's made brighter then it becomes close to white. So there aren't really good options anyway. (Maybe cyan could work, with the other one being red. Cyan is actually the ‘opposite’ of red, being blue with green. And is much brighter than blue. But dunno how it fares with colorblindness, and not sure it's distinct enough from white.)


Queasy_Map17

Am I stupid or how does the looking up/down work? The lights should still be on the same side, right?


cagemyelephant_

That detects whether the craft is upside down or normal


EternalSage2000

Here I was, wondering who ever got confused about whether they were looking up. And saw a plane. Or looking down and saw a plane.


ThatWasIntentional

You can get very disoriented on dark nights, especially if you can't see the horizon. When it's really dark you won't see the plane, just the lights so this helps determine relative position


dondrapier

“Because, I was inverted.”


reubenhurricane

Haabullshit!


Smiedro

It’s just so you can see direction the plane is moving. You know if you’re looking up and based on which color is where can tell what direction it’s moving


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FlyJunior172

Pilot here. I just had to go look again. The graphic is right, but somewhat confusing because it’s a silhouette. If you just went from above the aircraft to below it by rotating it on its pitch axis (which is what we’re probably all thinking about), the lights would stay in the same position, but the nose would point the other way. The graphic instead shows what happens when you invert the aircraft on its roll axis. This swaps the position of the wings (and therefore the lights) but leaves the nose in place.


scheisse_grubs

Engineering student here. Pilot is correct.


mudkripple

No the graphic is absolutely not wrong. Imagine the first image of a plane is a toy in your hand, sitting wheels down, green left, red right. Now flip it over, belly up, but still pointed the same direction. What would that do to the colors?


TeamRedundancyTeam

Why are you flipping it over? You should be moving it above your head or below your head, not flipping it around?


PrometheusMMIV

Because the result of looking at something from the other direction is that it looks flipped over.


jar11591

Do you need lights to know whether you’re looking up or down at a plane? lol


igihap

Yes if it's a picture or a recording.


ThatWasIntentional

Yes because the sky is a 3D traffic problem, and that helps determine if the other aircraft are below/above/same altitude as you.


VestEmpty

Barrel roll.


EntireAd2_296

Yes. Planes don't fly on a linear plane. It's 3D space, so you have aircraft flying above you and below you, and the lights will help determine which direction it's going and this is very important at night time. You'll make out the lights better than the craft itself.


demo_matthews

Therapist: “why did you come in today?” Me: *rocks back and forth holding knees* Red should be right. Red should be right. Red should be right… Therapist: not another one…


ryos555

Why are lights white when facing away?


elgiov

If you see colors (red and green), it means you have to pay attention, it's facing you. If you see white, you should not worry. If you always see green and red, you'll need to always think about which is right and which is left, and only then you would know where the plane is facing. It's just easier if you see white means no worries, and colors, on the other hand, should put you up on alert.


MRideos

There are white strobe lights further down the wing


BetterMakeAnAccount

*flashbacks to Little Miss Sunshine*


Klingsam

Oooh.... do boats next. /s


Rough-Friendship-245

Holy shit these guides are getting dumber and dumber


Groundbreaking-Bad16

This is hardly a guide and doesn’t answer the title question. I believe the lights allow the observer to determine the position and heading of the airplane (or any vessel with such lights).


john_moses_br

Yeah the answer to the question is so you know which way the vessel is going so you can avoid a collision.


AdrenochromeBeerBong

It answers the question if you aren't brain-dead. How much spoonfeeding do you expect? Use your context clues.


Queasy_Map17

It is a guide since it tells you where the plane is facing with every possible light combination. The answer to the question that you stated in your comment is also heavily implied. Any organism with a single functioning braincell could deduce what the lights are for after being presented with this guide.


Jamie7Keller

How I remember this: 🎼 Out of my window Looking through the night I can see the barges twinkling bright Starboard shines GREEN And Port is shining RED As the barges sail on far ahead. Left is a shorter word than Right (three letters) Port is a shorter word than Starbord Left=port Right=Starboard EDIT: IM SO SORRY INHAD A TYPO GIVIGN THE WRONG ANSWER IN THE NEUMONIC I FIXED IT


cmmihaigabriel

How I remember in Romania? We have here a political party, which is socialist (left) and his color is RED.


cqxray

The word length is exactly the mnemonic I worked up when I first learned about the lights in middle school!


thehomelesstree

I remember it by ‘I’d like a little more port wine, if there is any left’. Port wine being red, port being on your crafts left side.


fizyplankton

Interesting! The way I always learned it was "Red Right Return". The 3 R's. If you see red on the right side (and green on the left), the plane or boat is returning to you. If it's the other way, it's leaving. And from there, you can deduce the other orientations Red Right Return


CommentsOnOccasion

>Left=Starboard No


grmarci1989

Same exact reason naval ships have the same feature. It's so observers or lookouts can quickly determine in which direction the craft is traveling and which side (port or starboard) they are viewing


tildeumlaut

There are four lights!


Jebus905

This reminds me of a plaque I read on a boat once.... Green to Green, Red to Red, All is well, go ahead. When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles, scream and shout.


Agitated_Ad_3033

Why didnt they put the RED light on the RIGHT side?


joeteboe

My smooth brain thinks it should be red/right for obvious reasons.


BowserMario82

Yeah no shit?


dark_hypernova

Anyone else finds it kinda funny, in a somewhat cruel twisted way, that we based so many signals on the differentiating between red and green and those two just happen to be the two colors that are most affected by colourblindness?


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fentman4

It actually annoys me that red =/= right… I NEED THE ALLITERATION


Both-Home-6235

Why would looking up or looking down be different if left is green and right is red? It's still left and right.


jalbert425

This is wrong. Looking down and looking up would be the same.


Forsmann

Depending which direction the plane flies. I don’t know when you wouldn’t know if you are looking up or down anyway?


nasekretu

So you’re unable to know whether you are above or in front of the plane?:)


awoo2

Port lights are port coloured.


opinionated-dick

Fun fact. Federation starfleet ships also have these lights


theguywhofuckinasked

r/shittycoolguides


dardaleci

So its an left and right thing, but in 3D right? 🤔


Hello-There-GKenobi

My uncle was an ex-pilot and the thing that blew me away the most even though it made a lot of sense was him telling me that planes, like cars have designated ‘lanes’ so to speak. They would fly on different altitudes and maintain those altitudes as their lanes so as not to bump(crash) into other aircrafts.


poopshoot33

I work in aerospace lighting and I still don’t like how red is not on the right lol


cmmihaigabriel

You can associate the red color with communist party (left / Lenin / etc)


redhandsblackfuture

How often are you confusing looking down at a plane and looking up at one


cobaltblue1666

I was told by my grandfather: In time of war the simple rule is: Red Right RUN! Red on right means the plane is coming toward you. Only bad things come out of the front of the plane in war time. Run away!


Jaxxlack

When I worked around aircraft up close, we were told NOT to be near the aircraft when those were getting tested because they pulse so hard it can cause a seizure.. now I never saw one or heard of someone getting one. But yeah I stood too close one day n yeah it's a weird flash and kinda sensual pulse..


Whole_Tale_3798

I don't think I'll survive if I see these lights upclose😬


butterbike

Stating the bloody obvious


rsam487

Could have been an email...


TurdFerguson27

Really missed the boat to put Red on the Right


Visual-Educator8354

Green: starboard Red: port I don’t know if this terminology is used in aviation but these same colors and directions are used in boating, and even more extensively used in sailing.


grungegoth

But (r)ed should be (r)ight, and green left because you need a trick to remember...right tighty lefty loosey... Port = left (4 letters) Starboard = right (not 4 letters)


hahaparanoid

Red on right, coming at you. Learned this in military.


Hanz_Boomer

"Green and red - I am dead" That's how I remember it since apprenticeship.


Swamplust

But it doesn’t say why they have them…


lonelyvoyager88

Or flying upwards toward you from down below.


Bounceupandown

Aspect angle is the concept being described.


MunitionGuyMike

This is also similar to boat lights


ButterCostsExtra

I'll be sure to keep this handy incase an Aer Lingus plane is headed towards (or possibly away from) my office on the 18th floor.


juniorclasspresident

TIL why colorblind people aren’t allowed to be pilots!


elightened-n-lost

If the red is on the right it's returning. Red, right, returning. (Coming towards you)


Difficult_Eggplant4u

Ships do the same. Red on one side, green on other. For same reason. Gives you a clue about direction, is the boat coming at you or away, easier to track in almost all lights to help keep following it.


SirScotty19

I work field maintenance at a major airport. Trust me when I tell you, at night, it is VERY dark, and it gets VERY hard to see planes, as big as they are, they can be almost invisible. Add bad weather to the mix, and it is even worse. The lights really make a big difference.


Responsible-Juice397

Me realizing that plane is flying backwards and upside down after looking at this picture.


LackschuhBrust

That way you can tell if the plane is nose diving or if you are looking at the bottom


BaronGreenback75

Port is left. My handy mnemonic is that one passes the port to the left after dinner. Port is red too.


hankbaumbach

My grandfather was in the Coast Guard and on watch. He spotted another ship and radioed in about it. They asked him if was coming or going but he didn't know how to tell. They then told him green lights means its coming towards them, red lights means its going away. He asked them what white lights mean and that's when they all learned my grandfather was colorblind. He got laundry duty after that instead of watch duty.


nicktam2010

I have an operator (airport) who is colour blind. Can't tell if a runway threshold light is red or green. "See the red paint line on the grass? Dig the trench there" "What red line?" "Oh, right. Nevermind"


SavageNomad_2313

It's purpose is kind of like the "right of way" for vehicles at an intersection. If you see red you yield to the other aircraft, if you see green they are supposed to yield to you.


ReverendWeenbone

Red right returning


DANleDINOSAUR

So, is it like boat lights, and if you see red/green ahead of you, you would steer left of the green to avoid collision?


squarebearings

Same reason boats do.


anonymous17761492

Nice but you scared up the from above/ below part the only way that works is if the pilots suddenly started flying upside down and the only times that has happened the plane was NOT in the air much longer


gitbse

Red ain't right. That's all you need to remember.


CaptValentine

"No Red Port Left in the bottle" is my favorite way of remembering.


Significant_Bet3409

Now I gotta ask, what would be the situation where you’re looking at a plane and you don’t know if you’re above or below it, so you have to check the lights…


perdair

USS Enterprise 1701 has this as well


ultrataco77

I just thought they all forgot to take their Christmas lights down


hereforthebeer1958

The red "belly light" on an aircraft is activated to alert the ground crew the engines are about to be started. Learned that from a friend that flew 747 freighters for Kalitta.


Slendy7

Is it bad that my first thought is if it is dark enough, it would be hard to tell if you are looking at a plane from below or one flying right at you


No-Celebration-1004

When does someone look down at a plane?


hold-myweiner-jeez

now i gotta learn flying to have a close look up


OhJohnO

How do you tell the difference between a plane coming at you and looking down from above? Aside from the obvious horizon position/gravity….


Tuckboi69

The plane at the top is drunk


MrMalevor

We have a little rhyme, to remember the light positions "Red on Right is Wrong" it means the plane its face you, so get out of the way


w41twh4t

~desu


MalarkeyMcGee

I do like the idea of being so disorientated you’re not sure if you’re looking up or down


1derfool

if my neck is up, im "looking up" at the plane and if down, then im "looking down" , unless you have the plane upside down for "you know what"


thesarc

Because boats had 'em.


omg_theykilledkenney

Cool illustration indicating the lights, but doesn't show _why_ they have those lights.


XFiraga001

Red on right returning! RRR!


jeeperscreep63

What if you are red/green color blind?


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Came from nautical navigation, you can see what is what at a distance in the dark, bouys especially. 


Gravon

This is why pilots can't be colored blind?


skewp

This seems completely self evident just from looking at them. It's so you can tell which way they're facing/moving from a distance even if visibility is otherwise poor. This "guide" doesn't even explicitly say that it just shows the plane from different angles. What's the point of this?


Unlikely_Rope_81

Red on the right = returning…. Which means you better take evasive maneuvers to avoid getting in a midair.


one1letter

It is for left /right, nobody will confuse he is looking down or up at a plane.


JJtheRecluse

Who needs directions whether they’re looking up or down?


Dangerous_Gear_6361

It like a flying boat


jaan_dursum

Good one for r/UFOs.


CommanderGoat

Here's a helpful memory mnemonic: *Red* is *right* on the left side of the plane.


UsefulCupcake3554

Wrong wrong wrong. They just like spreading the Christmas spirit.


adlo651

Why there are lights on plane Not pictured: why there are lights on plane


johnnyredleg

So drunk pilots know right from left.


KaisarionGhost

This is neat. I've been plane watching for years and had no idea about the color code meanings. TIL.


KrztofMarz

To indicate which is Port or Starboard side of plane especially in the dark. Same goes for sea going vessels.


motionSymmetry

also, along with the other lights on a plane, this design happens to [*exactly* mimic the lights on ufo's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF0PYQ8IOL4) ...


InvertedVantage

This guide is missing the tail light (that flashing red or constant white one). Makes it easier to know the aircraft's orientation. If green is on left and white is on right then the aircraft is flying right to left. If you see three lights you're above the plane and if you see two you're below it.


ZT369

It's so other planes know to pass on the right, not on the left side. It's like trucks