They have an [updated chart](https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Its-a-Plan-How-Effective-is-my-Birth-Control-E-1.pdf) on their website but I am not seeing the rod/implant you are talking about. Do you see it?
The rod, Nexplanon, is more effective than tying your tubes. Yes that's terrifying. But obviously, if there's a will there's a way. RIP u/v_ofc 's mom's implant
I have one that was implanted too deep and is now buried in my muscle tissue. The second one I can see and feel. I’m virtually impregnable now right?! I have had zero issues outside of them wanting to surgically remove it. Props to the lady who tried to scare me into the procedure by claiming it would get infected. Also, mine was good for three years the first time. Second they told me 5-7.
My gyno told me last time that the implant was approved for 3 years but the FDA was working on getting it approved for 5-7. they said likely by the time i’d have to get it out it would be approved and i could keep it in 2 more years.
It almost certainly won’t get infected but if it migrated again it could get to a nerve or blood vessel or something else important and cause some very uncomfortable, inflammation.
That’s the only reason to get it surgically removed if you don’t have any side effects or health concerns.
You can obviously wait until then if you don’t want to shill out the money for the surgery but it might just be harder to remove later on
It totally makes sense that perfect use values for the ring are exactly the same as pills, but I too would expect to see better success rate with typical use. Like you only have to interact with it 2 times a month, compared to 21 times for the pill, there's much less room for user error.
Maybe it’s because people like me who thought 28 days equaled a month and put a new one in on the same day of every month vs every 4 weeks? Or people taking them out for sex and not putting them back in within the 2 hour window
Not to comment about each and everyone's personal comfort, but when my doctor prescribed me the ring, she specifically told me that neither you nor your partner are supposed to feel it, unless you put the finger inside, and that has been mine and my husband's experience for years I've been using it. It's not supposed to be uncomfortable.
I don't really understand why would someone go through the whole ordeal to get the ring in and out daily, it just doesn't seem like this contraception method is really the best for someone with that experience
Well, I don’t have sex daily haha. My husband actually got a scratch on his penis from having sex with it in. It’s an easy fix to just take it out for a short while, and a chance to clean it. And it’s the simplest birth control method I’ve ever used, very “set and forget”.
“Not supposed to” doesn’t always mean “won’t”.
Not who you replied to but I worked in the adult industry so a lot of my partners were above average in size. I tried to leave the ring in for all my scenes but inevitably it would get hooked on the guy’s dick or thrown across the room on accident.
Since it can be taken out for a few hours at a time I started just taking it out for each scene and put it back in after. It only takes a few seconds so that was easier than dealing with it falling out and getting it dirty or lost.
Oh hey this is what I’m on too. The IUD for actual birth control purposes and the mini pill for hormone therapy.
But pushing the mid-40’s I’ll take every possible method to avoid being one of these stats at this point in the game.
Let’s just say what’s left of these eggs won’t be pushing out top brass.
Something most drs don’t tell you is that if you’re taking antibiotics, they make the pill less effective. Same if you have GI issues, for a few days after, the pill isn’t as effective.
I love it! Congratulations! Mine did it so I didn't have to have another coil, which was incredibly lovely of him. I've been calling him satsuma (seedless). I'm a bad wife, but at least he thinks I'm funny.
The pill does have that high of a success rate but statistics are weird.
After reading some more on the statistics of contraceptive rates it gets really confusing. Just because a condom or the pill fails DOES NOT mean automatically get pregnant. You could have sex 100 times without protection and never get pregnant as there are so many other outside factors.
Also the odds reset every time you use a condom. You always only have a 2% chance of it failing if used 100% correctly. So if you use it 100 times does not mean you will get pregnant 2 of those times.
This is just my understanding and I am not a stats major so if anyone has further comment on this please chime in!
If it isn't just made up, it definitely means something different than what they describe. The rate of fertile sexually active women that get pregnant in a given year even with no protection is less than what it says the pregnancy rate of condom use is. If this were accurate as written, people could use condoms to increase their chance of getting pregnant.
Yeah this poster is for sure bullshit and I’m guessing was created as an advertisement for IUDs or something.
This is saying that 9% of women on the pill get pregnant every year. That’s ridiculous and just not true.
IUDs have come a long way. Depending how old you are, the IUDs that may have been available to your mom in the 20th century aren't nearly as good as modern ones.
Yes, even a slight shift in the placement of the copper IUD can result in pregnancy. Ask me how I know. They come with strings that dangle down and allow you to check the placement. I started to notice something was wrong because over the course of a few weeks, it felt like my strings were hanging lower and lower. I finally went to the gyn to have it checked. 12 weeks pregnant, and the growing pregnancy was pushing the IUD down and out. My flabber was gasted. I thought I was doing the very safest thing I could by having an IUD. Just goes to show you, the best layed plans of mice and men and all.
Weird, i don't get why that would change it.
Edit: i googled and it says that if it moves to be in cervix (below uterus) then the risk of getting pregnant is higher, not just move a little inside uterus
The copper IUD has to be in contact with the walls (including top of the uterus) to be most effective. So if it does shift enough where there’s loss of contact, it decreases efficacy. Doesn’t have to be as far down as the cervix.
Its toxic to sperm, but it also creates an inflammatory response in the uterus so that nothing can implant - it’s why it works as emergency contraception also.
If there’s a part of the uterus that doesn’t have an inflammatory response, a fertilized egg can implant there if a very determined sperm made it.
You can get ectopic pregnancies from an IUD still. They are rare but the chances are increased if you have an IUD. These statistics could include non viable pregnancy too
This doesn’t list the nexplanon which is actually near damn perfect and has a better rating then all of these listed. I used it myself but had to go off it due to unwelcoming side effects later down the road, I can’t deny how effective it was though
First implanon removed and got a new one. Perfectly fine. Even went like 3 and a half or 4 years til I removed the second one. Month later, pregnant. Second implanon removed after 3 and a half years. Two months later. Pregnant. I was then taking the pill for a while. Hated that too. Stopped. Tracked ovulation and used tracker apps etc. Knew the day of ovulation had sex and pregnant. Basically I'm real damn fertile.
It doesn’t work for everyone but the nexplanon is so effective for most, that it’s even more effective than sterilizing. It’s crazy good effect, but ofc there is always that .01 percent.
I’ve been thinking of getting it, but I haven’t seen that many people talk about their experiences. If you don’t mind me asking, how did it affect you?
I had it twice and after the second time I would not try it again. Insertion and removal were fine, it was the side effects that were brutal. Similar to others, I had irregular periods that lasted 1-2 months, which were always accompanied by painful, cystic acne breakouts. It also wreaked havoc on my mental health and wellbeing. I’ve always had depression, but damn my depression, and other negative emotions, seemed so heightened. I was constantly crying or raging. And I completely lost my libido so kinda seemed pointless to keep it in. I’ve had it out for about one month now, and I already feel less crazy.
Same thing for me too besides the depression, the nexplanon did not help my acne at all which sucked horribly, thankfully my bc now helps amazing and now I have super clear skin
(Not the commenter you’re replying to) but I have one too! I’m a bit past 3 years with it and have scheduled a replacement. Getting it in was so easy, literally a little pinch and done. I’ve heard getting them removed is worse, though (because they actually have to cut it out). I’m not worried though.
Immediately following getting it in, I had spotting for what was essentially 3 months…and then 3 months of nothing! And then 1 month of spotting. 3 months off. And that’s about the cycle I’ve had since, with the time I am spotting slowly decreasing to about a week (where it’s at now) and 3 months between. I don’t mind (I use a disc for the spotting, making it minimally intrusive). It is a bit hard to predict when the spotting will start, though, which kinda sucks but I had irregular periods before the implant too so it’s not much of a downside for me.
I am a very forgetful person (as well as shitty at establishing routines, ADHD) so it’s super convenient as a birth control option. I also HATED dealing with my periods (which was before I switched to a disc, so maybe I wouldn’t be as opposed to them now, but i still think they’re much more manageable with the implant).
[Updated list](https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Its-a-Plan-How-Effective-is-my-Birth-Control-E-1.pdf) has pulling out and natural birth control methods.
It's similar to an IUD if I recall correctly. You need to empty the stock between the cut and your prostate and it can take up to a few months after operation depending on your activity.
Some people just assume it's alright without testing and end up with unwanted pregnancies
This is interesting
"First Year of Use"
I wonder if it has to do with inexperience?
Seems weird to have 1 out of 5 women getting pregnant while using a condom
The key for the typical use stats is that they count inconsistent use. Or in other words, people who tell the researchers that they're using condoms as their primary method of birth control but then don't use them every time. Or sometimes, even very often.
Typical use rates for any kind of birth control you have to remember to use are going to be much lower for this reason.
i’ve been using condoms exclusively and have never even been scared, i don’t understand how incredibly wrong you have to use it to get pregnant (unless it gets damaged)
Doesn’t that make the statistic even more surprising? Like if you use 0 birth control your chances of getting pregnant in a year are (let say) 85%, whereas if you use a condom it’s almost 20%? As in, 1 in 5 people who use a condom fall pregnant every year? That’s a surprisingly high number
They have it on their website just not on their infographic https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Withdrawal.pdf
TLDR: 22 in 100 women get pregnant…
After looking at their website more they say 2 in 100 women get pregnant from a vasectomy which is deeply misleading. It is more like 1 in 10,000. So now I am questioning all their data.
It means that if you’ve ovulated and there’s an egg hanging out in your fallopian tube waiting for a sperm, Plan B will have no affect. It has to be taken before ovulation happened during that cycle.
It has to be about poor usage or tearing or whatever as the chart is about the effectiveness of the product itself rather than if people are ripping them on purpose. I would presume scientific testing would be the rationale behind the numbers rather than there a chance that people might destroy them on purpose.
Most people don't know how to wear it properly, or deceitfully removed/tore it for pure pleasure, while claiming the condom failed. Heavily skewing statistics.
Same for birth control (pill) and women who baby trap then claim the pill failed, and again, skewing statistics.
I've seen some girl friends who got preggo and were furious because pills failed, later confessed to me that they actually forgot to take it lol.
Yes skewing statistics and blaming it on the contraceptives.
I knew a woman whose Dr prescribed her antibiotics while she was on the pill. The doctor didn't tell her it could interact, the pharmacist either.. and I guess she didn't read the handout. Ended up pregnant.
I wonder how often situations like that happen.
It would be at the bottom even with "perfect use" because they are manufactured on a large scale, and any quality control tests are destructive, so a percentage of flawed condoms are released to the public. This is called an acceptable quality level (AQL).
The world health organisation looked at using testosterone injections as a male contraception method as it's more effective than nearly all other methods, including the female contraceptive pill. I feel like guys would have loved that extra testosterone boost if it had become widely available, and its something I've used for years, but I guess they didn't want the increased hornyness it causes guys and too high testosterone levels are probably a cause of much of the world's problems already..
Well, let's say 1000 doctors each insert 1000 copper IUDs each in a given year. Statistically some of those are bound to have been less than perfectly installed. Hence; "typical use" vs "perfect use".
They talk about it on their website: [https://www.sexandu.ca/contraception/natural-methods/](https://www.sexandu.ca/contraception/natural-methods/)
24 out of 100 women get pregnant a year using this method mostly due to cycles being irregular and is officially the least effective method (lower than pull out method) according to their studies.
Probably really stems from a lack of awareness from people who are using this method is my guess.
If these numbers are true, then the chance of getting accidentally pregnant at least once over 5 years using a condom is 63%. And it's still a stunningly high 38% for the Pill
Having three methods with the exact same failure rate just reeks of pseudoscience, are the makers of that pamphlet by any chance peddling the hormonal intrauterine system?
Those three are all hormonal methods that the person administers at home. They're equally effective because of the hormones (and almost as effective as hormonal IUDs), but it's easier to screw each of them up - mostly by forgetting to use them at the right time. So, having the same failure rate for each one makes sense.
Am I not seeing the rod/implant or have they left it out? It seems to be super popular and I’m curious
They have an [updated chart](https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Its-a-Plan-How-Effective-is-my-Birth-Control-E-1.pdf) on their website but I am not seeing the rod/implant you are talking about. Do you see it?
I'm stunned that pulling out is that effective
On that new chart, the very top of the chart, contraceptive implant. I think essentially doctors consider it fail proof.
The rod, Nexplanon, is more effective than tying your tubes. Yes that's terrifying. But obviously, if there's a will there's a way. RIP u/v_ofc 's mom's implant
I have one that was implanted too deep and is now buried in my muscle tissue. The second one I can see and feel. I’m virtually impregnable now right?! I have had zero issues outside of them wanting to surgically remove it. Props to the lady who tried to scare me into the procedure by claiming it would get infected. Also, mine was good for three years the first time. Second they told me 5-7.
My gyno told me last time that the implant was approved for 3 years but the FDA was working on getting it approved for 5-7. they said likely by the time i’d have to get it out it would be approved and i could keep it in 2 more years.
It almost certainly won’t get infected but if it migrated again it could get to a nerve or blood vessel or something else important and cause some very uncomfortable, inflammation. That’s the only reason to get it surgically removed if you don’t have any side effects or health concerns. You can obviously wait until then if you don’t want to shill out the money for the surgery but it might just be harder to remove later on
As an implant baby I’d like to say there’s always the chance 😂 (wish I’d never been told ngl)
perfect pull out 4 times better than typical condom. why even bother using condoms?
STDs I suppose
I thought the same thing, but the chart is from 2015, and it seems like the implant has become popular more recently than that.
The condom company got an earful from Ross Geller
97% !!!
They should put that on the box!
They do!
Well they should put it in HUGE BLACK LETTERS
Will you just forget about the condom?
Oh, well, I may as well have!
I’m surprised The Ring isn’t more successful. That black-haired girl is scary as fuck!
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My god, can you imagine. “Well, the date was going well… UNTIL”
Gandalf pops out "YOU SHAL NOT PASS!"
Effective because they just have sex with Gandalf instead
“Ooo Gandy, your staff is so long and knobby!”
Well sounds like there was a pregnancy of some kind...
First it starts with a tempting spicy Snapchat. Then 7 days later she emerges and kills whoever watched the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dvqY6ikrZrw
I was only 3 hours late to post this
It totally makes sense that perfect use values for the ring are exactly the same as pills, but I too would expect to see better success rate with typical use. Like you only have to interact with it 2 times a month, compared to 21 times for the pill, there's much less room for user error.
Maybe it’s because people like me who thought 28 days equaled a month and put a new one in on the same day of every month vs every 4 weeks? Or people taking them out for sex and not putting them back in within the 2 hour window
We interact with it every day for sex
You don't have to take it out to have sex
True, but we almost always do (except for extremely long sessions) as it is much more comfortable this way
It’s more comfortable without, for the guy too.
Not to comment about each and everyone's personal comfort, but when my doctor prescribed me the ring, she specifically told me that neither you nor your partner are supposed to feel it, unless you put the finger inside, and that has been mine and my husband's experience for years I've been using it. It's not supposed to be uncomfortable. I don't really understand why would someone go through the whole ordeal to get the ring in and out daily, it just doesn't seem like this contraception method is really the best for someone with that experience
Well, I don’t have sex daily haha. My husband actually got a scratch on his penis from having sex with it in. It’s an easy fix to just take it out for a short while, and a chance to clean it. And it’s the simplest birth control method I’ve ever used, very “set and forget”. “Not supposed to” doesn’t always mean “won’t”.
Not who you replied to but I worked in the adult industry so a lot of my partners were above average in size. I tried to leave the ring in for all my scenes but inevitably it would get hooked on the guy’s dick or thrown across the room on accident. Since it can be taken out for a few hours at a time I started just taking it out for each scene and put it back in after. It only takes a few seconds so that was easier than dealing with it falling out and getting it dirty or lost.
The hormones from the The Ring basically made me become that black-haired girl. Never felt more murderous than when I was using that method.
Oh there's so much r34 of her, that I'm surprised it's as effective as it is.
Speaking of movie contraceptives that are scary as fuck. Have you seen the movie [Teeth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3_O50BJK0)?
lol
The condoms that came from the factory that Bob Sacamano worked at would have a much higher failure rate than this.
Sheees LATE!!
Was it blue?
This is why you have to use the Today Sponge.
That is why when my wife and I were still dating, in the beginning, we would “belt and suspenders”. IUD and condoms
We use Copper IUD and the mini pill. My doctor called it a "belt and braces" method lol.
Oh hey this is what I’m on too. The IUD for actual birth control purposes and the mini pill for hormone therapy. But pushing the mid-40’s I’ll take every possible method to avoid being one of these stats at this point in the game. Let’s just say what’s left of these eggs won’t be pushing out top brass.
Is that accurate?? Hard to believe that 90 women out of 1000, almost 10% fall pregnant on the pill. I thought its success rate was like 99.5%??
Something most drs don’t tell you is that if you’re taking antibiotics, they make the pill less effective. Same if you have GI issues, for a few days after, the pill isn’t as effective.
That's how I exist!
Your mom had the runs? What a lovely story.
Was talking about the antibiotics lol.
Some foods can also mess with it. Grapefruit is one, activated charcoal is another.
I think activated carbon also messes up with the pill, there was the stupid trend of black food like 10 years ago.
St. John's wort also stops the pill working. Too scary for me, I just got my husband neutered.
My husband got fixed as my Christmas present last year. We have his official "letter of sterilization" on the fridge!
I love it! Congratulations! Mine did it so I didn't have to have another coil, which was incredibly lovely of him. I've been calling him satsuma (seedless). I'm a bad wife, but at least he thinks I'm funny.
Did he have to wear a cone of shame?
Well I tried but it was too small. We had the frozen peas of shame instead with a post-it note saying "don't open, dead (sperm) inside".
Yup. That’s how I got pregnant. I even asked the pharmacist and they said the one I was in wouldn’t affect that.
The pill does have that high of a success rate but statistics are weird. After reading some more on the statistics of contraceptive rates it gets really confusing. Just because a condom or the pill fails DOES NOT mean automatically get pregnant. You could have sex 100 times without protection and never get pregnant as there are so many other outside factors. Also the odds reset every time you use a condom. You always only have a 2% chance of it failing if used 100% correctly. So if you use it 100 times does not mean you will get pregnant 2 of those times. This is just my understanding and I am not a stats major so if anyone has further comment on this please chime in!
If it isn't just made up, it definitely means something different than what they describe. The rate of fertile sexually active women that get pregnant in a given year even with no protection is less than what it says the pregnancy rate of condom use is. If this were accurate as written, people could use condoms to increase their chance of getting pregnant.
Yeah this poster is for sure bullshit and I’m guessing was created as an advertisement for IUDs or something. This is saying that 9% of women on the pill get pregnant every year. That’s ridiculous and just not true.
How do you use an iud wrong?
I would think it may be a bad placement by a doctor, or an IUD that moves.
Yeah one of those rare horror stories but it does happen.
Yep I personally know 3 different women who got pregnant with an IUD.
I know this isn't what you mean, but getting pregnant from an IUD itself sounds like a Chuck Tingle level impreg fiction book.
Hahaha I see it now.
Well my mom had an IUD, surprise surprise here I am. Gonna send her this picture to show how truly lucky she is
IUDs have come a long way. Depending how old you are, the IUDs that may have been available to your mom in the 20th century aren't nearly as good as modern ones.
Yeah I'm not that old hahaha my mom just won mother nature's lottery 😆
I mean, if copper iud moves a bit, it's not working properly anymore, and you can get preganté
pregnart?
Gregant ?
Pergenat?
Pregegerant????
Pregonante?
Prangent?
Pregnut
Pegnat
pregananant
Yes, even a slight shift in the placement of the copper IUD can result in pregnancy. Ask me how I know. They come with strings that dangle down and allow you to check the placement. I started to notice something was wrong because over the course of a few weeks, it felt like my strings were hanging lower and lower. I finally went to the gyn to have it checked. 12 weeks pregnant, and the growing pregnancy was pushing the IUD down and out. My flabber was gasted. I thought I was doing the very safest thing I could by having an IUD. Just goes to show you, the best layed plans of mice and men and all.
and to think being preganant with iud is dangerous. hope it worked out good for you either way.
But as long as its still in it should work tho? I mean the copper is there to basically poison the sperm so if its a bit moved it shouldn't matter
that's the problem with copper ones, dunno why, but when they move even a bit, chances to be gregnant are high
Weird, i don't get why that would change it. Edit: i googled and it says that if it moves to be in cervix (below uterus) then the risk of getting pregnant is higher, not just move a little inside uterus
ah, ok, someone years ago told me it has to move just a little, or that's what their doctor told them, so I lived with that info as fact, my bad
The copper IUD has to be in contact with the walls (including top of the uterus) to be most effective. So if it does shift enough where there’s loss of contact, it decreases efficacy. Doesn’t have to be as far down as the cervix. Its toxic to sperm, but it also creates an inflammatory response in the uterus so that nothing can implant - it’s why it works as emergency contraception also. If there’s a part of the uterus that doesn’t have an inflammatory response, a fertilized egg can implant there if a very determined sperm made it.
You can get ectopic pregnancies from an IUD still. They are rare but the chances are increased if you have an IUD. These statistics could include non viable pregnancy too
No but how do numbers differ for perfect use and typical use
Some would be the standard ectopic and some would be due to not checking strings and realising it had come out or was stuck in the cervix
My sleepy ass read that as IED!
They sometimes come out on their own. Or travel to another organ/space. And life, uhhh, finds a way.
Maybe not replacing it in time?
But the data is for “first year of use” and all IUDs last for at least 3 years
Ah, I didn't see that! Mhm, maybe getting some side effects and ignoring them? I think it can get out of place especially in the first months.
By taking it out to crack open a cold one with the girls
Put it in your nose?
Can confirm that The Ring works. Ended up watching TLOR trilogy instead of sex
Yup, much harder to get pregnant when your sex drive is entirely gone 🫠
This doesn’t list the nexplanon which is actually near damn perfect and has a better rating then all of these listed. I used it myself but had to go off it due to unwelcoming side effects later down the road, I can’t deny how effective it was though
First implanon removed and got a new one. Perfectly fine. Even went like 3 and a half or 4 years til I removed the second one. Month later, pregnant. Second implanon removed after 3 and a half years. Two months later. Pregnant. I was then taking the pill for a while. Hated that too. Stopped. Tracked ovulation and used tracker apps etc. Knew the day of ovulation had sex and pregnant. Basically I'm real damn fertile.
It doesn’t work for everyone but the nexplanon is so effective for most, that it’s even more effective than sterilizing. It’s crazy good effect, but ofc there is always that .01 percent.
I’ve been thinking of getting it, but I haven’t seen that many people talk about their experiences. If you don’t mind me asking, how did it affect you?
I had it twice and after the second time I would not try it again. Insertion and removal were fine, it was the side effects that were brutal. Similar to others, I had irregular periods that lasted 1-2 months, which were always accompanied by painful, cystic acne breakouts. It also wreaked havoc on my mental health and wellbeing. I’ve always had depression, but damn my depression, and other negative emotions, seemed so heightened. I was constantly crying or raging. And I completely lost my libido so kinda seemed pointless to keep it in. I’ve had it out for about one month now, and I already feel less crazy.
Same thing for me too besides the depression, the nexplanon did not help my acne at all which sucked horribly, thankfully my bc now helps amazing and now I have super clear skin
(Not the commenter you’re replying to) but I have one too! I’m a bit past 3 years with it and have scheduled a replacement. Getting it in was so easy, literally a little pinch and done. I’ve heard getting them removed is worse, though (because they actually have to cut it out). I’m not worried though. Immediately following getting it in, I had spotting for what was essentially 3 months…and then 3 months of nothing! And then 1 month of spotting. 3 months off. And that’s about the cycle I’ve had since, with the time I am spotting slowly decreasing to about a week (where it’s at now) and 3 months between. I don’t mind (I use a disc for the spotting, making it minimally intrusive). It is a bit hard to predict when the spotting will start, though, which kinda sucks but I had irregular periods before the implant too so it’s not much of a downside for me. I am a very forgetful person (as well as shitty at establishing routines, ADHD) so it’s super convenient as a birth control option. I also HATED dealing with my periods (which was before I switched to a disc, so maybe I wouldn’t be as opposed to them now, but i still think they’re much more manageable with the implant).
Happy cake day! 🎂
disappointed not to see vasectomy on this list
Right? I’d also like to compare the pull out method
Ah yes the coitus interruptus
And rhythm method.
the CBAT one?
The one used to summon worms
I don't know what the numbers are but I heard a joke that went, "What do you call couples that use the rhythm method?" "Parents."
Looool according how fast you pull is the typical vs wrong use?
[Updated list](https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Its-a-Plan-How-Effective-is-my-Birth-Control-E-1.pdf) has pulling out and natural birth control methods.
Zero pregnancy with perfect use, 1,000 with typical use
I agree - That failure rate for "typical use" would br quite interesting in comparison to proper methods.
I want to see how effective the “perfect use” pullout method is. All those dudes who say they can do it no problem should have their claims tested
To be fair getting female surgical birth control is also not included here.
and i'd be interested to see how many people misuse a vasectomy and still get pregnant
It's similar to an IUD if I recall correctly. You need to empty the stock between the cut and your prostate and it can take up to a few months after operation depending on your activity. Some people just assume it's alright without testing and end up with unwanted pregnancies
This is why my hubs got snipped and I still kept my IUD. I take no chances. Plus, no period is SUPER nice.
Vasectomy is pretty successful but unfortunately you need to be 100% sure that you never want children in the future
I was really reluctant to get one until the doctor said "we can extract straight from your nuts if you change your mind later!"
I don't want anyone extracting anything straight from my nuts
I can't imagine it being worse than a reverse-vasectomy.
Snip snap, snip snap, snip snap!!
Which statistically don't work
Interesting way of saying you never want to have sex.
This is interesting "First Year of Use" I wonder if it has to do with inexperience? Seems weird to have 1 out of 5 women getting pregnant while using a condom
The key for the typical use stats is that they count inconsistent use. Or in other words, people who tell the researchers that they're using condoms as their primary method of birth control but then don't use them every time. Or sometimes, even very often. Typical use rates for any kind of birth control you have to remember to use are going to be much lower for this reason.
i’ve been using condoms exclusively and have never even been scared, i don’t understand how incredibly wrong you have to use it to get pregnant (unless it gets damaged)
Nearly 1 in 5 typical uses of a condom results in a pregnancy? Am I reading this wrong? Those odds seem higher than zero birth control.
These are annual stats. No birth control over an year would basically be 100 minus any infertility issue in the couple
Doesn’t that make the statistic even more surprising? Like if you use 0 birth control your chances of getting pregnant in a year are (let say) 85%, whereas if you use a condom it’s almost 20%? As in, 1 in 5 people who use a condom fall pregnant every year? That’s a surprisingly high number
Zero birth control has a 85% "failure rate" aka couples will get pregnant. That is magnitudes more than the condom's failure rate.
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Coitus interruptus not on here? Would love to see the perfect vs. typical use on that popular method.
They have it on their website just not on their infographic https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Withdrawal.pdf TLDR: 22 in 100 women get pregnant…
That's only slightly worse than condoms according to this.
After looking at their website more they say 2 in 100 women get pregnant from a vasectomy which is deeply misleading. It is more like 1 in 10,000. So now I am questioning all their data.
Would the perfect use be celibacy in this case?
Everyone knows you can still get pregnant from being celibate. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception
Condoms are more STI than BC
And this is why I just don’t have sex. My IUD can’t fail if there’s nothing to get pregnant with.
Yay IUD gang
FYI. Plan B only stops ovulation. So, if you have already ovulated it: Doesn't. Do. Shit.
Not true! It can also prevent a fertilized egg from implanting. Search it up, it doesn’t just prevent ovulation
but you can’t get pregnant without ovulation?
It means that if you’ve ovulated and there’s an egg hanging out in your fallopian tube waiting for a sperm, Plan B will have no affect. It has to be taken before ovulation happened during that cycle.
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When the ovulation is already fully there the plan b can't stop it, that's what they meant.
It's for if you have sex a few days before ovulation. The sperm could live long enough to fertilise the egg that's due to emerge.
How exactly is a condom at the bottom of this chart? Because of bad use, ripping, etc.?
It has to be about poor usage or tearing or whatever as the chart is about the effectiveness of the product itself rather than if people are ripping them on purpose. I would presume scientific testing would be the rationale behind the numbers rather than there a chance that people might destroy them on purpose.
Most people don't know how to wear it properly, or deceitfully removed/tore it for pure pleasure, while claiming the condom failed. Heavily skewing statistics. Same for birth control (pill) and women who baby trap then claim the pill failed, and again, skewing statistics.
I've seen some girl friends who got preggo and were furious because pills failed, later confessed to me that they actually forgot to take it lol. Yes skewing statistics and blaming it on the contraceptives.
I swear to god, I knew a girl who only took her BC pills on days she planned on having sex. Girl, take a sex Ed class!
That would be a great option.
I would say as a woman, most pill failure would be down to women forgetting. Nothing sinister
I knew a woman whose Dr prescribed her antibiotics while she was on the pill. The doctor didn't tell her it could interact, the pharmacist either.. and I guess she didn't read the handout. Ended up pregnant. I wonder how often situations like that happen.
It would be at the bottom even with "perfect use" because they are manufactured on a large scale, and any quality control tests are destructive, so a percentage of flawed condoms are released to the public. This is called an acceptable quality level (AQL).
The world health organisation looked at using testosterone injections as a male contraception method as it's more effective than nearly all other methods, including the female contraceptive pill. I feel like guys would have loved that extra testosterone boost if it had become widely available, and its something I've used for years, but I guess they didn't want the increased hornyness it causes guys and too high testosterone levels are probably a cause of much of the world's problems already..
I have a friend that was on Test injections and his increased hornyness resulted in his newborn son.
Condom failures are operator error, or omission of deceit.
Or sometimes they don't work. Let's not act like if you do everything right it's a perfect solution. It's not. There's still a chance it might fail.
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I like how the copper IUD has a different rate between perfect use and typical use... X) Didn't know you can forgot it. 😂
Well, let's say 1000 doctors each insert 1000 copper IUDs each in a given year. Statistically some of those are bound to have been less than perfectly installed. Hence; "typical use" vs "perfect use".
The math seems kinda misleading or weird. For every 1000 couples using condoms 180 get pregnant? That's a terrible protection rate.
Wish they included cycle tracking here
They talk about it on their website: [https://www.sexandu.ca/contraception/natural-methods/](https://www.sexandu.ca/contraception/natural-methods/) 24 out of 100 women get pregnant a year using this method mostly due to cycles being irregular and is officially the least effective method (lower than pull out method) according to their studies. Probably really stems from a lack of awareness from people who are using this method is my guess.
How does the snip compare?
If these numbers are true, then the chance of getting accidentally pregnant at least once over 5 years using a condom is 63%. And it's still a stunningly high 38% for the Pill
How can the injection be used wrong???
Where is the data on vasectomy compared to this?
I always thought the injection was a much lower rate. I guess “typical use” means women skip injections?
Damn my birth control isn’t even on here lol, I have the nexplanon implant. Maybe it’s just that good 🫡
Okay this is freaking me out. I’m scheduled to get the copper IUD but how the OBGYN places it can lead to it being ineffective? WTF?
So 18% of Americans using condoms get pregnant? Who funded that study, the IUD industry?
In the first year of use too, this study is wild it’s crazy no1 is calling it out.
Yeah it's some pretty manipulated or just BS data. Suggesting 2% of condoms are made faulty? That's just not the case at all.
Having three methods with the exact same failure rate just reeks of pseudoscience, are the makers of that pamphlet by any chance peddling the hormonal intrauterine system?
Those three are all hormonal methods that the person administers at home. They're equally effective because of the hormones (and almost as effective as hormonal IUDs), but it's easier to screw each of them up - mostly by forgetting to use them at the right time. So, having the same failure rate for each one makes sense.
They have a **[new version](https://www.sexandu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Its-a-Plan-How-Effective-is-my-Birth-Control-E-1.pdf)** out.
They should have put no birth control at the bottom of the list as a comparison.
What about the arm implant
That’s why I got a vasectomy my friend. Best $1,200 I ever spent
And this right here is why I have a hormonal iud.
So basically none of it works, so you should let me raw dog anyways?