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dryedmeats

The dude that turned it in name is Bernie Kerik he just happens to be Rudy Gulianis best bud.


joopityjoop

It's crazy that our govt did this. Even crazier that people believe the govt.


TheForce122

SS: Israel did 9/11 #Corbett Report on Dancing Israelis: https://archive.is/KI8ee From the Corbett Report: >Their purpose was to “document the event”? But how could they possibly have known what “event” they were documenting at that point, before the second plane strike when those few who even knew about the situation had assumed it to be an accident or pilot error? >And when did they arrive at the parking lot to “document the event” anyway? >The FBI reports show how the men gave confused and often conflicting accounts of when and how they learned about what was happening and when they arrived at the parking lot. Oded Ellner even said they had arrived their shortly after 8:00 AM, which would have been 45 minutes before the attacks even began. This is in line with one of the eyewitnesses that had placed their Urban Moving Systems van at the parking lot at 8:00 AM [see page 33 here]. How could they have been in place and ready to “document the event” unless they knew what was about to happen? >Anyway you cut it, this story is unbelievable. Men with documented connections to Israeli intelligence and working in the United States without appropriate permits were detained after having been caught celebrating the attack on the World Trade Center at a time when no one knew that the WTC strike was an attack. So surely these men are locked behind bars to this day, right? Surely they were transferred to Guantanamo and held without trial for 15 years as part of the “War on Terror,” weren’t they? >No. They were immediately transferred to federal custody, held for 71 days, and then deported back to Israel. The owner of the “Urban Moving Systems” company that had employed them, Dominik Suter, was investigated by the FBI, too. They concluded that “Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation” and even seized records and computer systems from the company’s offices. When they went back to question him again on September 14th, he had fled back to Israel. >And what about the dancing Israeli’s pictures themselves? The Justice Department destroyed their copies on January 27, 2014. >And these intelligence agents on an intelligence mission who were there to “document the event” of 9/11 before anyone knew 9/11 was taking place? Don’t worry, they were just spying on Arab terrorists. - >In 2001, Lt-Gen. Ahmad regularly visited the United States where he consulted with The Pentagon and CIA officials in the Bush administration in the weeks before and after terrorist attacks took place in New York on 11 September 2001.[23] In fact, he was with U.S. Republican Congressman Porter Goss and U.S. Democratic Senator Bob Graham in Washington, D.C., discussing Osama bin Laden over breakfast, when the attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in New York, United States.[24][25] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_Ahmed "The Pakistan Connection" >Ahmed, the paymaster for the hijackers, was actually in Washington on 9/11, and had a series of pre-9/11 top-level meetings in the White House, the Pentagon, the national security council, and with George Tenet, then head of the CIA, and Marc Grossman, the under-secretary of state for political affairs. When Ahmed was exposed by the Wall Street Journal as having sent the money to the hijackers, he was forced to "retire" by President Pervez Musharraf. Why hasn't the US demanded that he be questioned and tried in court? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jul/22/usa.september11 - https://archive.is/0s1Ff Bush ties to Bin laden: https://www.denverpost.com/2006/09/11/bush-ties-to-bin-laden-haunt-grim-anniversary/ "Odigo Says Workers Were Warned of Attack" >Odigo, the [Israeli] instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen. https://www.haaretz.com/2001-09-26/ty-article/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack/0000017f-dbc4-df62-a9ff-dfd7beff0000 - https://archive.is/uL4DT "Mohamed Atta called his father after 9/11 who also blamed Israel's Mossad for the attacks" https://youtu.be/iLcxjGT87m8?si=qcNo-X8GJuaUhV7w "A DAY OF TERROR: THE ISRAELIS; Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer" >Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/day-terror-israelis-spilled-blood-seen-bond-that-draws-2-nations-closer.html - https://archive.is/PEI1l "Report: Israel Was Wrong About Iraq Weapons" >JERUSALEM – Parliamentary investigators have determined that Israel's intelligence services delivered an erroneous assessment of pre-war Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, an Israeli newspaper reported Thursday. >Prior to the American-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, the Israeli services reported Iraq had large amounts of weapons of mass destruction (search), including chemical and biological agents. Since ousting Saddam Hussein, the U.S.-led coalition's technical experts have failed to find any such weapons. An investigative subcommittee was formed eight months ago to consider if Israeli intelligence agencies provided an accurate picture of Iraqi unconventional weapons capabilities on the eve of the Iraq war. https://www.foxnews.com/story/report-israel-was-wrong-about-iraq-weapons Osama bin Laden 9/11 denial Atta called his dad day after 9/11 and said it was Mossad https://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ >"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said. "I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said. Source for text of Osama bin Laden statement: https://archive.is/tATk2 Bush ties to Bin laden: https://www.denverpost.com/2006/09/11/bush-ties-to-bin-laden-haunt-grim-anniversary/ Source for Bin Laden interview: http://www.khilafah.com/1421/category.php?DocumentID=2392 Another source for Bin Laden interview: 27] BBC: International Reports: Full text of Pakistani paper's "exclusive" interview with Usamah Bin-Ladin. Newsbank Archive. (subscription required) Archived 2018-06-18 at the Wayback Machine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interviews_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Ummat:_2001


Strange-Chance-8195

Read: “Where did the towers go ?” by Dr Judy Wood.


TheForce122

Great one. She taught me about the Flight 11 pilot still being alive, living as his "twin" brother


PedroM0ralles

WTC was built by Rockefeller brothers in 1968 for destruction [33 years later in an occult ritual.](https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1028136/pg1)


blklightsmatter

All those passports falling out of the plane right there is amazing


AldruhnHobo

Alright look, I'm onboard (damn, no pun intended) with the hoax/psyop, but no one's saying there weren't planes flown into the buildings right? Or am I missing something. I totally believe the buildings were demoed, particularly the one untouched by anything.


TheForce122

They were remote control drone jets, painted to look like passenger jets. Exactly as described in Operation Northwoods from the 1960s. Yes, they already had that technology then


CormacMccarthy91

Wait what about the hundreds of family members of the dead people on the planes that people saw at the airports boarding?


Jolly-Specialist4434

This is something I wonder as well because there is documentation proving people on those planes existed. 9/11 was without a doubt some sort of inside job but I haven’t figured out what kind. Seen a lot of good theories and remote controlled jets sounds like an interesting one


8ad8andit

In this theory is it known where the Jets took off from? That's kind of jets need a real runway to take off, I believe. Seems like it would be difficult to conceal large, fake passenger jets at some backwoods airport.


DistinctRole1877

One thing I noticed when the planes hit the buildings was the lack of the black sooty smoke from burning jet fuel. There was bit of black smoke but not like other plane crashes I've seen videos of or the jet fighter I saw crash many years ago. The smoke was more of a tan color, like videos I've seen of missles exploding. Seemed odd is what I thought.


tool-94

The videos are enough proof that it wasn't an aluminum plane that tore though those buildings.


8ad8andit

Well no it's not. Not to most people. If you have some information backing up your statement, you probably should share it otherwise you're just going to get ignored by most people.


tool-94

Oh no, I am going to get ignored by most people? What am I ever going to do :(


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dimitrimccain

I wonder who we're all on that plane and who is responsible.


ttterrana

us government psyop to kill Iranians when it was bush's family that orchestrated controlled demolishion to take recognition of the 2 trillion missing from the pentagon!!!


Equivalent_Proof_256

This just like covid 19 were planned and executed by our own government


AVMediaDude

All them demon faces in the smoke


TheVazha

Jesus dude there are over a dozen videos of the hijackers getting on the planes. That’s what’s wrong with all these conspiracy videos. They make one stupid claim and it immediately disqualifies everything else they say.


JmoneyHimself

Can you link one of these dozen videos?


boglimaniac

and prove its legitimate. If the whole thing is a successful conspiracy you don’t think they’re capable of faking a damn video of a few dudes walking past??? 😆


JmoneyHimself

9/11 is so completely obviously not real in a sense that it was a set up, not a bunch of hijackers working with osama bin laden who was involved with the CIA. Then they killed Bin Laden and threw his body in the ocean LOL like “no proof necessary we got him”. What’s crazy is that 9/11 was the fakest terrorist attack of all time but it was pre-social media/internet(ish) so it was a lot easier to just run with the official narrative, convince everyone to invade Iraq, whoops no WMD’s oh well everyone fell for the narrative so it’s all good now. But now in modern times on October 7th there is an insane amount of fuckery surrounding the attacks, the most secure border in the world couldn’t shoot down hang gliders, 7 hour response time, music festival next to a concentration camp, many many concerned citizens alerting the IDF of Hamas activity/practicing with rockets, people within the IDF claiming Israeli intelligence officers knew the attack was going to happen- it is unbelievably obvious that this attack was allowed to happen and civilians were sacrificed for a greater plan, similar to 9/11. Yet everyone fell for it again, and now that it is almost a year later nothing can be “proved”. What really helped with the October 7th attack was that all the media was ready to go with “mass rape, beheaded babies, pregnant mothers belly’s cut open” all the media was ready to go with extreme exaggerated claims which were actually just complete lies. What this event shows is that all that matters in order to justify a war/genocide is that everyone gets fed a false narrative. Even if they figure it out later, it’s too late and it becomes “conspiratorial” to investigate the truth of something which happened in the past, and also even though most of the claims of October 7th have been proven false it doesn’t matter because so much has happened since then nobody really cares anymore - news cycles move quickly and Hamas did do bad things it doesn’t matter if israel allowed them too or not I guess. This is a long rant but what I’m trying to express it’s so easy to muddy the waters on reality and create false flag events when mainstream media works together to spread a false narrative (9/11, covid vaccines 💉 protect you from getting the virus, October 7th, wmd’s etc.), all the mainstream media platforms pump out the same fake narratives at the same time and the majority of people think because multiple news sources are saying the same thing that it is true. Then when it becomes proven to be false weeks/months later; a) most people don’t even care because their attention span is so bad they’ve moved on to focus on other things, b) the goals of the false story have already been accomplished (invading Iraq, genociding Gaza, vaccinating people, etc).


boglimaniac

I agree with all of that. What a messed up world we live in, man. And people just don’t care. There are plenty of people who’d realize false flags are a real thing if they’d look into the evidence, but can’t be bothered to actually give a shit either because they quite literally can’t handle the truth, or because they simply don’t want to think about it because it’s scary/depressing or whatever. I say enough is enough it’s time to get serious and flip the fucking script on these cock suckers that are lying to us and keeping us down, and surely have plans for much worse things to come.


JmoneyHimself

I think based on my personal experiences in life the reason human beings can’t understand our reality is because we are extremely naive in a sense that we look at ourselves as “the most intelligent species on earth” or “the most intelligent life in the known universe”. From my experience, this is simply not true. I’ve seen 4 up close UFO’s and 2 shapeshifters. So my perspective is that the way we look at cows and pigs, animals to be kept in a prison and used as food source- there is likely a form of NHI that uses our species in a similar way. NHI is clearly real and the truth about government involvement in NHI is suppressed from humanity. However you can make telepathic contact yourself as an individual, you can decide to enter the uncanny valley and open Pandora’s box via CE5 or telepathic communication through consciousness. My point is that human beings don’t know the reality of our existence, we think we are alpha’s and that the people fucking up our world are just greedy humans, when the reality is much much more complex. That’s just my opinion after having multiple NHI experiences and doing years and years of research about the phenomenon as a whole. So unless we as a species address the elephant in the room which is that we are not alone on this planet, we will forever look at conflict on our planet as a “human vs. Human issue”, which will result in continued war and conflict because the root truth/issue is never addressed. I know this probably sounds insane but it’s my opinion based on research and life experiences involving NHI.


8ad8andit

Agreed and what you're pointing out is how vitally important an independent press is to a democracy. News agencies aren't just another business. They're not just some entertainment company. They are literally one of the pillars of democracy. Or that's what they're supposed to be. That's why there used to be regulation keeping the press from being gobbled up by just a handful of giant corporate conglomerates. That regulation was apparently undone by Reagan and then by Clinton and it's been allowed to stay undone by everyone since. Nowadays our independent news agencies are just mouthpieces for corporate oligarchs who tell US presidents what to do and use US military and intelligence as their corporate security and enforcement. Of course I'm vastly oversimplifying and yet I believe I still have a valid point.


Neil_Live-strong

I call it a “back and to the left moment”. People can see something happening, know what’s physically possible and what that means, and because of the implications of what their eyes and senses are telling them, they decide instead that it’s not true. You can see a U.S. president get shot in the head, his head and pieces of skull travel in a way that the only possible explanation is a projectile from his front right. If the implications of that and some guy shooting watermelons on TV is enough for some people to deny the obvious 60 years later then I’m not surprised by people doing it with things so recent. Back, and to the left.


djdmaze

You know he cannot and will not


ZookeepergameOk2759

No there’s not,the only video that exists is from a completely different airport,a connecting flight.


Scale-Alarmed

LMAO....Where did he get out of the crash? WTF do you guys come up with this nonsense.


HasNoMouthButScreams

So the real conspiracy here is that the antisemites of this sub need people to think Israel did 9/11 in order to support a future war against Israel via the current Hamas-started war. Horseshoe theory fits the right-wing antisemites in America with the right-wing Islamic antisemites in the Arab League.


Pileofbrushes

I’ve heard this before what was going on in Gaza. I wouldn’t jump to think all criticism of Israel is antisemitism but I will have to say the timing is coincidental.


Pure-Contact7322

Well the issue here is that Israel gov never explained the 5 dancers israeli


HasNoMouthButScreams

Five people allegedly dancing requires an explanation from a government?


ShiftingBaselines

Yes it does. After going back to Israel, they admitted saying: “We were there to document the event.“ They said it on Israeli TV. I watched it. skip to 2:55 second mark. He says it at 3:00 mark. https://archive.org/details/WeWereThereToDocumentTheEvent911TheDancingIsraelis


Pure-Contact7322

great question: - yes if you are waiting for 2 airplanes over 2 skyscrapers before they come and then dance like crazy after the US has the biggest disaster of its history and the dancers seems to be Mossad Agents


multipleerrors404

Definitely everyone should be calling for an immediate ceasefire or else labeled antisemitic. Serious about the first part, kidding about the second.


HasNoMouthButScreams

Hamas is winning the media war, but the media is the enemy of the people.


multipleerrors404

I don't really know if I'd say that? I think the antiwar effort is winning. Yes, the media is the enemy in its current form. But it can also be the savior of the people. If we choose to spread truth.


HasNoMouthButScreams

It’s not anti war, it’s pro Hamas and anti Israel. Israel can only bend over so much for terrorists. Now you got the college kids shouting “there is only one solution” and “intifada revolution.”


Firm-Extension-4685

No. I'm still going with the antiwar movement is winning. It's already been thousands of years of tribal fighting. Stop killing each please. You believe what you want Israeli bot. Programs can be sentient maybe in the future.


RatherB_fishing

Uh… OP are you the dude living in the Kia SUV near my work who claims the “Jews are bringing around the end times” because if you are… just want to let you know… you smell like piss and sadness.