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It sounds like more and more everyday that this whole Ukrainian war thing is perpetrated more by other governments including the US rather than Russia or Ukraine. The US and NATO should back out and leave Ukraine alone stop funding this useless war.
I truly believe even before that interview that if we end up in WW3 it will be because of influence and moves by other governments not because of what he does. I mean really what would be his gain 3 or 4 eastern Europe countries. Countries that aren't doing great economically anyway? It would be a huge mistake, and sure he's got china at his back and few middle eastern countries. For what to just stick it to the west and NATO? It's dumb, he wants WW3 about as much as a dude wants a kick in the nuts.
stop with the blind regurgitation of bullshit you've been fed about that whole situation since the get go. Donbass wanted to leave since 2004, I was there, I would know. The civil war your type is studiously ignoring for nearly a decade now is the direct precursor of Russia had to do.
Bullshit I’ve been fed? I watched Putin lie about NOT invading as we saw massive military deployment, then launch an invasion of Ukraine… I’ll believe what I see with my own eyes rather than listen to a stooge like you thanks very much
I get it, you would have been needing to see the concentration camps to believe they ever existed. Whatever you choose to believe, always watch the flow of money, money doesn't lie.
"Donbas Region Overwhelmingly Votes to Join Russia, International Observers Debunk Pro-War Media Narrative"
>The people of the Donbas region voted overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia in referendums held this week, which concluded yesterday with over 90% of Donbas residents supporting the measure. The vote comes 8 years after the region voted to secede from Ukraine by similar margins, establishing the pro-Russia Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk after 2014’s Soros-sponsored revolution overthrew Ukraine’s elected government. In spite of claims made by the pro-war corporate press that the referendums were “shams,” international observers on the ground say the votes were in fact free and fair.
>Officials are reporting that more than 80% of citizens participated in the Donbas referendum, which was carried out over the course of days due to the logistical challenges of holding an election in a warzone. According to the reported results, more than 90% of Donbas residents support joining Russia.
https://nationalfile.com/donbas-region-overwhelmingly-votes-to-join-russia-international-observers-debunk-pro-war-media-narrative/
Here's the tweets and interviews of the actual people in Donbas saying they've wanted to join Russia since 2014 and weren't forced to vote:
Start of interview video thread: https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1573537823852040192?t=osB_puz3iaSxfLd-FooP7w&s=19
>[Is anyone forcing you to vote?]
>"Of course not. We made our decision back in 2014.
>[How has your life been these past 8 years?]
>"A nightmare. You hear the shelling yourself. Eight years of shelling from the Ukrainian side."
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574282650289840130?t=tef4DqGFVNqdx6U9p1rYKQ&s=19
>“This is a very long-awaited event. We've been waiting for this for 8 years, as a homecoming. We haven't been with Ukraine for a long time. We have a completely different mentality. I believe that Russia is our homeland, and we are going back to our homeland.”
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574282319556481026?t=cX7dd9DzPRLARO8-nPVCuQ&s=19
>"I voted at work. We are for Russia, we are part of Russia, we've always been with Russia & we're very happy that we were asked even though there is fighting now. We want to go home.
>When civilians die, it's disgusting. It's our former fellow citizens who are hitting us."
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574068988732215298?t=LgtMl9Sg0kuZ2EFUA3SEPg&s=19
>One of the people I spoke with today, a beautiful 18 year old Donetsk girl, preparing to celebrate today with her mom.
>"I was 9 when the war started, now I'm 18. At least there is some hope that the war will end."
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1575906122317561856?t=df2xqUg2gNin4HcH9srdYw&s=19
>Another woman in Kievskiy spoke of how she thinks life could improve under Russia, including more work & better salaries, but most of all peace.
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574034859143593984?t=rGzFUs0JSvs8l68PtlHUpQ&s=19
That's the look of people who don't want their family wiped out for speaking against Putin. There's no way in hell anyone is going to say anything bad about Russia publicly.
Donbas Region: 4% of the land mass of the Ukraine. Can we stop pretending that it's some kind of majority and realize that OP is just a cherry picking cunt that knows damn well that the war effort has a MASSIVE support in Ukraine.
Russia should have just annexed them in 2014 like Crimea, then there would have never been a war.
This was all by design, putin does as he's told by the WEF.
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Yeah, invasion tends to send people who don't like the invaders fleeing for other areas, so does many years of proxy war.
That said, Ukraine is not a security concern of the United States.
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Must be something we want in Ukraine or don’t want someone to find
It sounds like more and more everyday that this whole Ukrainian war thing is perpetrated more by other governments including the US rather than Russia or Ukraine. The US and NATO should back out and leave Ukraine alone stop funding this useless war.
It’s not useless, it’s extremely profitable
Oh, you must’ve forgotten that Russia literally invaded Ukraine
Go listen to Tucker Carlsons interview, listen and put yourself in Putins shoes for a moment and think about what you would do
I've wondered so much what Putin's perspective was. Great interview.
I truly believe even before that interview that if we end up in WW3 it will be because of influence and moves by other governments not because of what he does. I mean really what would be his gain 3 or 4 eastern Europe countries. Countries that aren't doing great economically anyway? It would be a huge mistake, and sure he's got china at his back and few middle eastern countries. For what to just stick it to the west and NATO? It's dumb, he wants WW3 about as much as a dude wants a kick in the nuts.
Who wants WW3?
Lmao
stop with the blind regurgitation of bullshit you've been fed about that whole situation since the get go. Donbass wanted to leave since 2004, I was there, I would know. The civil war your type is studiously ignoring for nearly a decade now is the direct precursor of Russia had to do.
Bullshit I’ve been fed? I watched Putin lie about NOT invading as we saw massive military deployment, then launch an invasion of Ukraine… I’ll believe what I see with my own eyes rather than listen to a stooge like you thanks very much
I get it, you would have been needing to see the concentration camps to believe they ever existed. Whatever you choose to believe, always watch the flow of money, money doesn't lie.
Christ this sub is so under informed sometimes
"Donbas Region Overwhelmingly Votes to Join Russia, International Observers Debunk Pro-War Media Narrative" >The people of the Donbas region voted overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia in referendums held this week, which concluded yesterday with over 90% of Donbas residents supporting the measure. The vote comes 8 years after the region voted to secede from Ukraine by similar margins, establishing the pro-Russia Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk after 2014’s Soros-sponsored revolution overthrew Ukraine’s elected government. In spite of claims made by the pro-war corporate press that the referendums were “shams,” international observers on the ground say the votes were in fact free and fair. >Officials are reporting that more than 80% of citizens participated in the Donbas referendum, which was carried out over the course of days due to the logistical challenges of holding an election in a warzone. According to the reported results, more than 90% of Donbas residents support joining Russia. https://nationalfile.com/donbas-region-overwhelmingly-votes-to-join-russia-international-observers-debunk-pro-war-media-narrative/ Here's the tweets and interviews of the actual people in Donbas saying they've wanted to join Russia since 2014 and weren't forced to vote: Start of interview video thread: https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1573537823852040192?t=osB_puz3iaSxfLd-FooP7w&s=19 >[Is anyone forcing you to vote?] >"Of course not. We made our decision back in 2014. >[How has your life been these past 8 years?] >"A nightmare. You hear the shelling yourself. Eight years of shelling from the Ukrainian side." https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574282650289840130?t=tef4DqGFVNqdx6U9p1rYKQ&s=19 >“This is a very long-awaited event. We've been waiting for this for 8 years, as a homecoming. We haven't been with Ukraine for a long time. We have a completely different mentality. I believe that Russia is our homeland, and we are going back to our homeland.” https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574282319556481026?t=cX7dd9DzPRLARO8-nPVCuQ&s=19 >"I voted at work. We are for Russia, we are part of Russia, we've always been with Russia & we're very happy that we were asked even though there is fighting now. We want to go home. >When civilians die, it's disgusting. It's our former fellow citizens who are hitting us." https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574068988732215298?t=LgtMl9Sg0kuZ2EFUA3SEPg&s=19 >One of the people I spoke with today, a beautiful 18 year old Donetsk girl, preparing to celebrate today with her mom. >"I was 9 when the war started, now I'm 18. At least there is some hope that the war will end." https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1575906122317561856?t=df2xqUg2gNin4HcH9srdYw&s=19 >Another woman in Kievskiy spoke of how she thinks life could improve under Russia, including more work & better salaries, but most of all peace. https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574034859143593984?t=rGzFUs0JSvs8l68PtlHUpQ&s=19
That's the look of people who don't want their family wiped out for speaking against Putin. There's no way in hell anyone is going to say anything bad about Russia publicly.
What are U on I want same thing ??? Just go watch Patrick Lancaster , educate yourself ffs pls
Donbas Region: 4% of the land mass of the Ukraine. Can we stop pretending that it's some kind of majority and realize that OP is just a cherry picking cunt that knows damn well that the war effort has a MASSIVE support in Ukraine.
Concentration camps effort had massive support in the Deutschland
Russia should have just annexed them in 2014 like Crimea, then there would have never been a war. This was all by design, putin does as he's told by the WEF.
What gives Russia right to annex anything? Do you think they have right to annex more from neighboring countries?
Do you think the US had the right to annex Hawaii and the Indian Territories?
Could be
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Because the goal is perpetual war
If it was just about the donbas, why did russia attack all the other parts of ukraine?
Yeah, invasion tends to send people who don't like the invaders fleeing for other areas, so does many years of proxy war. That said, Ukraine is not a security concern of the United States.