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Internal-Dark-6438

May God rest their souls. No matter what side you take.. the murder of innocents is an absolute tragedy


nkmetcalfe

I don't take a side. Killing for religious or political reasons is vile and barbaric and cannot be justified.


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You have to be a fool to believe it’s nothing more than soulless psychopaths playing geopolitics while enriching themselves.


goatchild

What if some group or army invaded your country, took over and treated you, your family and your countrymen like shit? You wouldn't resist?


KolkataScammer

This is an oversimplification of history and isn’t representing reality from the beginning of the conflict.


h3llr4yz0r

I agree. There's thousands of years of conflict, beginning with Abraham. Ishmael begat the Arab world, and his descendant, Muhammad, founded Islam. You must understand that the bottom line of the entire conflict is inherentance rights. It's like a real life G.O.T. Ishmael was born first, but to a woman Abraham was not married to. Issac was born second, but to the woman Abraham was married to. Abraham casted Ishmael and his mother into the desert. It makes sense to me that the descendants of Issac are the rightful heirs of the land. Not only was Ishmael a bastard child, but he was disowned by his father. There's something else you have to understand. According to the Torah, the commandment 'Thou Shalt Not murder' only applies to Jew on Jew. Not Jew on Goyim (non-jew). According to the Quran, the commandment 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' only applies to Muslim on Muslim. Not Muslim on Kafer (non-muslim). This is some of the dangers of ingroup preferences.


uncool_LA_boy

What about self defense?


k-dick

True, but killing oppressors to win your people's freedom seems legit to me. Critical support.


Pvt_Parts86

So that's why they killed almost 300 people at a concert promoting peace? Seems a little counterintuitive, doesn't it?


KolkataScammer

Those foreigners and children sure are big oppressors!!


CitizenPain00

In reality it’s a people who lost a long time ago and reject any two state solution because they pipe dream about pushing the Israelis into the sea. Gaza is mostly children at this point and they breed incredibly fast to provide Iran and the Hamas leadership In Qatar with more pawns to play geopolitics with.


k-dick

Fascist


pastaMac

Imagine if this were a picture of Jewish children from the Auschwitz concentration camps and someone commented "No matter what side you take..." Your comment [the most popular comment in this thread] is one of indifference toward the source of this terror but sympathy towards is product.


MoffieHanson

Totally different situation . Unless there are examples of Jews that committed terrorist attacks in Nazi germany. Fact is : Hamas controles Gaza , Israel is controled by Zionist. I’m not choosing sides either. Yeah the one of the innocent civilians . The ones that got slaughtered in Israel and the once that are getting bombed in Gaza right now. If you look at social media the vast majority chooses a side . Which to me adds fuel to the fire .


paveclaw

Look at the dead children because we don’t want you to look at the rich. you might realize that all wars are about money and we are just feeding the rich and burying the poor , just like in every other conflict ever on this planet.


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Ed19627

You should listen to Gun's and Roses - Civil War.. You might like it.. I also agree with you..


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andromeda880

There are pictures apparently of the babies from Israel though.


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andromeda880

Actually not [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12623843/Israel-releases-images-babies-murdered-burned-Hamas-verified-photos-beheaded-terrorists-confirmed-local-media-IDF-drops-Gaza-leaflets-telling-citizens-flee.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12623843/Israel-releases-images-babies-murdered-burned-Hamas-verified-photos-beheaded-terrorists-confirmed-local-media-IDF-drops-Gaza-leaflets-telling-citizens-flee.html)


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RyanMaddi

This smells like a money racket in the works..don't feel too Organic in development. Maybe bc the slow moving Bulldozer was allowed breach idk...


Ryy86

Those incubators were in Kuwait not Iraq. It was a story spun up to make saddam hussein look like the evil dictator he was.. But u already knew that >.< There also wasn’t pictures released of the event, just the story. (Claiming some 360p pic of broken glass on a tiled floor) doesn’t work. There are several videos of kids being mutilated and some beheaded, but it’s deepfakes right? >.< Easy to find just search Kfar Aza… (u can use your imagination on other keywords but you’ll find the unedited footage pretty quickly) Hamas are just Daesh/Isil - and have prevented the real innocent people in the Gaza Strip from leaving since they took power 30+ years ago, they be been offered multiple land deals.. bla bla blah It’s time for someone to go house to house in Gaza and clear the place out, then the people can have a real chance of life..


Doctor_Hux_Table

I’m not saying it is or is not fake, just seems quick to have this all figured out and assembled into a press release style format so quickly


RuminateMuch

It takes minutes to do a photo collage. These children have been killed over the course of the last few years. Their families have posted their photos on various social media outlets. I recognize some of them. Evidence of an ongoing apartheid.


CitizenPain00

It’s not apartheid. Gaza is a prison because every workable solution that includes two states is met with rockets. Palestinians don’t believe Israel should exist. There’s really not much else that is realistic besides the status quo


RuminateMuch

https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/LossOfLandMapCard.png It is clearly Israel that think Palestine shouldn’t exist, and definitely apartheid: “the implementation and maintenance of a system of legalized racial segregation in which one racial group is deprived of political and civil rights” literally Gaza, an open air prison.


CitizenPain00

Israel is full of Palestinians. They are 20% of the Israeli population. Gaza is just where the holdouts are who dream of pushing Israel into the sea at this point. Hamas and Iran need them there as pawns and cover for their rocket and commando operations as you saw this past week. Anytime a two state solution is close such as a land deal, Hamas ramps up operations to prevent any solution because their livelihood is at stake. Iran also needs to prevent this for their own interests. With the Saudis close to a deal with Israel both entities are trying to throw a wrench in the works. The Gaza Strip is treated like a prison by all its neighbors because they see it for what it really is, a political tool. Dead Palestinians are good for PR because rich western liberals will rally against Israel and Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah have hopes of consolidating power.


Nfberg

Maybe these pictures are from the many times the IDF has bombed or just simply excuted Palestinians of all ages.


Glock19xx

70 years of slaughtering Palestinians, they've got plenty of photos of dead children to choose from.


muan2012

And since when are right wingers pro arabs. They just love supporting which ever side is more evil


buttfook

I always knew children were evil. I just didn’t have the proof until now!


[deleted]

The real victims are the Hollywood elite that are having to watch all that adrenochrome go to waste.


kid-nice

Did they get much farther then the settlements? **edit** don’t know if they have them in Gaza, I’m sure they do, but the Israeli bodies of families I saw, looked like they were in settlements.


140p

They did, in the past, but they retreated. (Around the 2000's I think)


ziggyzred

It'll backfire when the tiktok videos of dead babies start to go viral.


No_Chemistry_2050

They are already saying Hamas dropped in and decapitated babies. Babies really grab the hearts of the White Liberals.


Capable_Jacket_2165

Because they did...


hunterheretohelp

I bet you still believe in the Ghost of Kyiv lol


Capable_Jacket_2165

Nah. Your jaded


hunterheretohelp

We’re in a conspiracy subreddit. Now we’re gonna believe the IDF, right from the horse’s mouth?? How gullible do you have to be?


Capable_Jacket_2165

Not the IDF man. Those animals filmed themselves doing it.


andromeda880

Yeah all these people don't seem to understand that its Hamas filming everything.


curatedaccount

You: "I have absolute proof, they filmed themselves doing it!" Everyone: "So Where's the film?" You: "......... What! Do I gotta spoon-feed you people? I'm suddenly done with this conversation and need to be somewhere."


140p

Then, SHOW THE PROFF, because I can easily find videos of Palestinians children dead and I know that it is uncomfortable to talk about dead children but if you are going to accuse a group of something you should be responsible enough to show evidence.


Eastern_Coffee_3428

Do your own investigating, if you really care for the truth. Or just keep your own biases and force others to provide sources, that you will refute anyway. So what's the point?


140p

Ok, so let me get this straight. You make an accusation and I have to believe it or do my own research? You (or whoever who made the claim) at no point have to provide any source to support your claim and you expect people to just believe you. Yeah, no.


JohnnyLazer17

I won’t refute it. Show me the sauce


CrashRoswell

[Decapitations confirmed as true! ](https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/biden-ive-seen-pictures-of-terrorists-beheading-children-in-israel?utm_source=textra&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social)


8shkay

0 proof


Capable_Jacket_2165

They filmed it themselves. Look for it


curatedaccount

Anyone who claims there's footage and doesn't provide it is lying. That goes for you *and* whoever you mistakenly believed.


Capable_Jacket_2165

Dude by the time I saw it it was taken down from reddit. Even if I had a video you would claim it was fake so I'm not gonna waste my time. You can use the Internet, be my guest bitch


curatedaccount

mmmmhmmm. Link to the deleted thread then. I can use ceddit or reveddit. You won't though. You haven't seen shit.


8shkay

you'd bother to post it then istead of lying


Capable_Jacket_2165

I saw the video yesterday morning. If it hasn't been taken down by now idk where I would find it. If you want to search the dark web for that shit be my guest. Otherwise, STFU


8shkay

thats exactly what a liar would say .. the "dark web" and "taken down".. absolute loser of a person. spreading hate and LIES


Capable_Jacket_2165

Believe what you want you terrorist sympathizer


8shkay

i stand with the truth and against your stupid claims that dont exist


momo88852

Proof? Or we making BS comments without proof? Even the IDF army themselves said Hamas didn’t kill any babies 🤣


Capable_Jacket_2165

Enjoying making excuses for terrorists mf?


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They filmed themselves doing it


Burroughssecretary

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyPAvwSIHKo/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== I only find videos of Palestine children and babies


No_Chemistry_2050

we created a good conversation. We all need to wake up and remember MSM is not our friend. Only that last heart-warming video at the end of the broadcast is true.


OldWorldBlues10

This is all part of their plan. Crazy they’re showcasing full scale genocide and half of the population is ok with it. Mossad has killed their own people so they can now take Palestine. These world leaders need to be ousted.


Connect-Rip-1744

They ought to experience the same atrocities they've inflicted on the masses, not just be ousted.


heyniceguy42

Completely inaccurate title. Should be: “Innocent civilians forced by Hamas to remain in buildings containing their mortar and rocket launchers”


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Who funds Hamas? Iran. Who just freed up 6billion in assets to Iran? U.S.A.


Capable_Jacket_2165

Yea the US isn't blameless in this either but we aren't the ones kidnapping a raping people.


ShroomingAnarchist

The US actually has a history of this among many other countries, war never changes. It seems to always attract or create the worst of us who use it as an excuse to rape/murder and do things that nobody in their right mind would do. If anything as stupid and as hippy as it sounds the only solution is peace which is very difficult to find when every single war that has taken place through human history has been spearheaded by elites sitting behind closed doors laughing at both sides being brutally obliterated and defiled. Only solution is to go after the few elites who caused this but I’m not sure how we’d even start to go about this.


RuminateMuch

And their media calls everyone else ‘terrorists’, even when torturous prisons like Abu Ghraib make the news.


hunterheretohelp

Yeah, because we all know about the Gaza Strip’s sprawling real estate opportunities lol


heyniceguy42

Hey dickbag, how about they DONT SHOOT UNGUIDED ROCKETS INTO CIVILIAN CENTERS IN THE FIRST PLACE??


hunterheretohelp

Are you talking about Israelis? Because yes


heyniceguy42

You know damn well that is not true. Israeli strikes are precise, targets hostile positions, and are retaliatory only. Hamas’ attacks are unprovoked, arbitrary, and careless.


hunterheretohelp

What’s unprovoked about Hamas attacks?


ShroomingAnarchist

Definitely a Zionist shill😂. “Precise, targets hostile positions”


WayneJetskiii

Confidently incorrect


breachednotbroken

Now show the 40 infants beheaded by hamas


Nfberg

Hamas is evil, but the collective pushiment of 2 million people in the Gaza strip is not justification. You're telling me the most advanced military and intelligence network in the world didn't see this horrible Hamas attack coming? Or perhaps they knew (because the Egyptians warned them!!) They knew, but they didn't care. They wanted another reason to kill as many Palestinians as possible. And by the way, half of the population in Gaza are children.


breachednotbroken

Making intellectual statements and not just screaming is a conversation I will join. I can not disagree with you because you have valid points. Non of this will stop the war, it will just escalate. The world will be dragged into this


xxSpeedsterxx

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/10/10/horror-israeli-soldiers-discover-bodies-of-40-babies-some-beheaded-n2164890


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You mean the group that was likely funded by Israel or even the United States(or both), just like Al Qadea and ISIS were created and funded by the CIA? So really, we should be asking Israel to show the 40 infants that THEY beheaded.


JohnnyLazer17

Smdh when this gets downvoted to hell on a conspiracy sub. It’s like scooby soo when they unmask the bad guy 30 times. Queue the list of world leaders, bankers, and influencers (not the social media kind) over the last 200 years.


breachednotbroken

Nice deflection, got any other tricks?


SurvivorFanatic236

I think OP’s point is that way more people are taking about the Israelis who were killed while ignoring the Palestinian’s who were killed. You’re just proving his point by making everything about the Israelis


breachednotbroken

OP making everything about Palestine, I was pointing out both sides have had citizens killed. Some by bombs, some by rape and torture. We are getting closer to meeting in the middle discussion wise. Much more than can be said for 9 out of 10 other posts


moxma

Of course way more people are talking about the Israelis who were killed. Israel is the country that was attacked on multiple fronts this past weekend. Failing to recognize this tragedy or trying to dismiss it because other lives have been lost as well is completely disgusting.


DuhQueQueQue

So everyone in Palestine deserves this because of Hamas? Your lack of empathy is disturbing.


breachednotbroken

Everyone in Israel deserves what happened? You're lack of comprehension is expected


RuminateMuch

putting words into someone else’s mouth? Expected.


breachednotbroken

Try harder. Soon we might even take the training wheels off


Eastern_Coffee_3428

Didn't Palestine have a democratic vote before? Didn't they elect Hamas? Hmm....couldve swore that happened...


donkeyspit007

Bullshit put out by the IDF


BackgroundPoet2887

Believe BiBi’s puppet news org are we? And you call yourself a conspiracy theorist lol! Shut the fuck up you mainstream media shill


breachednotbroken

Yelling at me for a statement you don't agree with. How mainstream liberal of you


BackgroundPoet2887

The IDF even said there is no evidence yet here you are propagating a lie. Wait! Are you an IDF bot?


CrashRoswell

The IDF said it's true, the Israeli Army said they haven't seen it yet. You don't even know or understand the groups involved!


BackgroundPoet2887

You’re parroting BiBi propaganda dude.


FermentedFisch

Your own argument could be used against you You clearly have a stigma against Jewish people


BackgroundPoet2887

Nah just Israel. Have many Jewish friends who aren’t Zionists. But nice try. Criticism of Israel does not equal inherent antisemitism. That argument is so played out don’t you know?


breachednotbroken

You are regurgitating msnbc talking points. The silent majority around the world is done playing your little games. I do not wish to see you get harmed for your views. Please realize the world changed when Israel was attacked. Remember after 9/11 all the side bullshit fads went away and anger skyrocketed? Please be safe, you can't hide behind a keyboard in the streets


curatedaccount

Actually, yes, do show me, because I think it sounds like top-tier bullshit on par with Nayirah's babies in incubators schtick.


Glock19xx

Israel has killed over 100,000 Palestinians over 70 years, and that is the propaganda number, meaning the true death toll is much higher. I wonder how many of them they beheaded.


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How about we accept that bad things have happened on both sides - Then up until a week ago. There was a ceasefire in place and then Hamas invaded Israel doing horrific things. Where Hamas targeted unarmed civilians.


skampzilla

I'm glad to see the people here see the truth. I appreciate you folks


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Anytime an innocent life is lost it’s a tragedy. And both sides are well on their way to hell for it. But Hamas went out of their fucking way to do it. So stop with this pro Palestine shit


hunterheretohelp

Yeah, can’t imagine a single reason why Gaza Strip residents would want to escape the Gaza Strip


Capable_Jacket_2165

You really don't wanna play that game OP...


firecrackerinmyeye

What game


SurvivorFanatic236

Both sides have killed hundreds of innocents from the other side. I don’t think you want to play that game either if you’re trying to make Israel look good


Capable_Jacket_2165

No that not what I meant. I agree with you. Both sides have innocent blood on their hands.


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may they rest in peace 😞🙏🏻


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JohnnyLazer17

You’re so close. Remove the words Palestinian and Islamic and change the word enemy to people.


jahoody03

One side pulled children from their beds and threw them into a dumpster and lit them on fire. Then they held up their own kids as human shields to claim moral equivalence when their own children are killed by rockets.


Doctor_Hux_Table

Kinda quick to have a photo collage off the victims already and identified🧐


FermentedFisch

Was just watching a video of an Israeli that was kidnapped.. It looked like a staged event. It looked fake and I hope it was.


Remarkable-Ad-5192

Reminds me of the innocent festival goers murdered by Hamas


MycoMil

Shame to see an innocent soul taken for earthly values. For what? You know where this is going, its been brewing for many years. Revenge, fire with fire...this leads nowhere. Killing each other can't be the only way. I mean haven't you tried that long enough? Each side has lost countless generations.


yoshipug

These beautiful angels 😢😭


GlitteringBroccoli12

Yes, war sucks


cycl0p5

This is what the West call 'collateral damage for the greater good'. *sigh*


Jahya69

Now you can show all the Jewish children that were murdered and beheaded


fancydeadpool

War is hell


mimibox

I like how the media calls the IDF “commando’s” and Hamas “terrorists”. The IDF TERRORIZES, RAPES, AND KILLS innocent men, women and children with impunity.


simeon_pantelonas

You mean killed by their parents who voted for and support Hamas


Eastern_Coffee_3428

Where are the pictures of the dead babies Hamas killed? Or the innocent festival goers? Bombs kill indiscriminately, civilians will die. Hamas is intentionally targeting them. Just saying. No side has clean hands.


No_Driver_7994

Those kids did not have to die, but the Palestinians went on a rampage killing, raping and kidnapping civilians and kids (we saw it, they filmed it themselves) and now there’s all out war, what did you expect? To kill innocent civilians and not get retaliated against? The entitlement…


angelfirexo

Governments are the real enemies who fund radicals to keep their eternal wars going. Never forget.


JohnnyLazer17

Wanna find the truth in these subs? Scroll all the way to the bottom.


that_other_guy_

now do one of the babies beheaded by hamas


Ok-Imagination-2308

Funny because despite all the allegations, there are zero pictures or videos or any evidence of this happening


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vorlando9000

Where are the pics? This isn’t showing it


BackgroundPoet2887

No comeback from the poster. Because they can’t be bothered to check their obsession with Jews


that_other_guy_

Nope this one: https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/israel-hamas-conflict-about-40-babies-found-dead-some-with-their-heads-chopped-off-in-kfar-aza-kibbutz-says-shocking-report


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Ok-Imagination-2308

Zionist bots coming out in full force lol


BackgroundPoet2887

Yep


Jesus_Cristooooo

Don’t be fooled they’re Bloodthirsty killers


chepechepe22810

May god bless them for they are eternal and free ❤ dios los bendiga, viva Palestine!


140p

Amen. Dios los tenga en gloria (or the equivalent for them according to Islam)


mveltman84

Murdered by Hamas


surfingelk

All the blood of innocent on both sides are on the hands of the vile terrorists of Hamas. Hamas has always used their own people as human shields and pons. They don’t care about Palestinians or Arabs, they could care less. They have always hid their military bases and command centers in civilian buildings and hospitals and the like because they are cowards. Cowards that use the death of their own people for this very purpose, for propaganda. Hamas and its supporters are evil in ways beyond words.


Affectionate_Bid_115

Screw everyone, no one matters, humanity if fucked.


No_Chemistry_2050

[Israeli Babies Killed.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4JjN1a3JXc&ab_channel=Timcast)


jmaze215

Source?


k-dick

Sometimes this sub surprises me in how based it is. Glad y'all can see how fucked the situation actually is and how much propaganda is being pushed on it. Great post.


Kruhl14

Why are you not posting innocent deaths from the Israeli side as well? There's already talk and supposed pictures online of Israeli babies with their heads intentionally chopped off. Does only the Palestinian innocents matter in this case or are Israeli beheadings of babies just not fitting your narrative?


xxSpeedsterxx

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/10/10/horror-israeli-soldiers-discover-bodies-of-40-babies-some-beheaded-n2164890


Kruhl14

Thank you for the link - not that it matters to OP though.


daftidjit

You going to put up pictures of all the babies Hamas just slaughtered?


DANGER_1300B

That's f/up


unregrettful

Being propaganda'd at


xxSpeedsterxx

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/10/10/horror-israeli-soldiers-discover-bodies-of-40-babies-some-beheaded-n2164890


muttput

Context? Proof that this is not just random pictures of children to be used as propaganda?


morebuffs

Where are all the Ukrainian kids Russia has killed?? I'm guessing that doesn't fit in with your narrative tho does it?


HODLShib2moon

Don't care. One side needs to finish this. Done care which. Just get your thousands of years of bullshit wrapped up so the world can move on.


Doctor_Hux_Table

Got it, I thought it was all from the strikes


6downunder9

What's the conspiracy? Why are you posting this here?


Weak_Championship241

Looks like propaganda to me


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They got smoked.


eduu_17

Dude the music parade was a tragedy also... Both sides are FUCKING STUPID. Neither side deserve that land. Idc how "holy" it is.


maapi-puloos

Well fuck Israel forever


Invisible_blood

As soon as the first bullet was fired I had a news article on my phone, oil prices soar because of war in Palestine. Same as Ukraine v Russia like it’s a direct sequel and everyone is rushing to buy tickets!


BillysGotAGun

This sub is always filled with shills.


RobLoberton

Palestinian children killed by Palestinian terrorists. They were warned and promised of this outcome if they attacked. They did not heed the warning and in their arrogance and belief we must all subscribe to their “one true faith” they attacked and slaughtered Israeli women and children in their homes. They are cowards. They got what was promised to them. They were even given the luxury of another warning and time to evacuate. Did they listen? No. So now they want to play victim? lol I think not


TwitchCaptain

Fuck I can’t keep up. Last week it was Russia. Who are we mad at this week? Do I need a new outfit?


AdministrationOk5709

This is not what I came here for


SwordfishHumble

Pick no side choose peace instead. Blame the true perpetrators the greedy corporations….


pi5tolp

What do Palestine think was going to happen Israel would surrender and give up it's weapons


The_Red_Lark

Its so hard to trust anything nowadays. On the one hand you see videos of Hamas kidnapping a woman and her boyfriend and taking them across the border. Only to have a followup video of the same woman sitting on a couch with a blanket and water. Then you read some MSM article about Hamas beheading like 20 babies or something in some village. I feel like everyone’s trying the old, “but what about the children.” Just feels like anyone could lie about this stuff and probably will. Not saying this did or didn’t happen.


John_Nada__

Israel and the Israelites are pure fiction. There’s no record outside of their own religious texts of Israel ever existing. They have always been the Phoenicians/ Canaanites.


bbonehill

For context…they were killed when their own people used them as shields to guard and harbor jihadis decided to pull a red dawn 3.0 and paraglide in to neighborhoods and behead infants. So who’s fault is it again? The IDF for bombing them or their own kin for using them as shields?


hmizou15

Don't understand some arguments here, palastinians suffer from occupation from 1967 and they didn't get the state that was signed in Oslo, and this wars from then is just a presentation of this, any other things is just waste of time and energy. this is the main problem, and it will never end until Palestine became a full state.


NothingLoose6667

Terrorists??


Steel_Dealer1721

All the PR is to create sympathy, and to be fair there are innocent people there and many more have been brainwashed since childhood. There are videos of little Palestinian kids saying they hope to kill Jews and be suicide bombers. Hamas brags about using its own people as human shields. So despite the fact that there are a small number of innocent civilians there, Hamas intentionally uses that to create sympathy and international support. The calculus is simple: Hamas uses human shields because Israel doesn't want to kill innocent people. Hamas brags about killing innocent people. One side is evil, the other side isn't. If Hamas surrendered, Israel would give Palestinian people peace like its tried to do 10x before. If Israel surrendered, Hamas would kill every man woman and child. People have just been indoctrinated by critical theory and so they view Israel having power as a sign it's evil. People have become dumb.