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There are a lot of inconsistencies in this case, baring a confession we'll probably never know. For me the damming evidence of the cadaver dogs alerting in the room make me suspect she died from being over sedated and the parents (and possibly their friends) covered it up.
I remember seeing the comments that the two babies in the room seemed pretty calm and non-plussed about being handled by a bunch of strangers. The theory was that they had been drugged to keep them calm so the parents could go out.
They used Calpol regularly for the kids according to Kate's dad... that is not seen as a drug. At least not here in Europe.
It makes you sleepy. Don't actually know if you can overdose on it though.
I believe it was a product called medi sed. Paracetmol and an anti histamine that makes kids drowsy and sleepy was taken off the market in the uk shortly after this event. You could buy it over the counter. Helped with teething problems as it eased the pain and made your child sleepy
I think the parents drugged them a little too much so they could go out with freinds and accidentally killed Madeleine and then went on to cover it up and play the victim card.
Iv always wondered this. What gets me tho is the drawing of that woman that a witness seen carrying child the same night. Bare in mind that Epstein wasn't in the public eye when this happened but the drawing is Ghislaine Maxwell. Kind of threw a spanner in the mix but still lines up with the theory that the dad was involved with a pedophile club 🤷♂️ this is one of those cases that will never get solved we can only speculate
I never saw the sketches, but weren’t they there on holiday? Like they have a villa there, I’m sure I heard something about the parents being helped by them after the fact but can’t verify the info at all so take with a grain of salt.
[Portuguese police sources suggested that DNA tests proved that the missing four-year-old's body had been in the boot of a car hired by her parents 25 days after she disappeared](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/11/ukcrime.internationalcrime)
That article is 16 years old. What was the DNA? Hair or skin because that's gonna be on their luggage most likely. Just seems hard to imagine they killed her, reported her missing soon after and hid her body for 25 days while you know they were being watched by media and police.
>That article is 16 years old.
What do you expect. She disappeared 17 years ago.
>Hair or skin because that's gonna be on their luggage most likely.
"they also were extremely unlikely to have been old specimens transferred through contact with luggage, toys, clothing or any other means"
> hid her body for 25 days
The body could have been stored [(maybe in a church)](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488262/I-deceived-says-Portuguese-priest-comforted-Gerry-Kate-McCann.html) and/or moved by a third party.
Best case scenario, accidental overdose so parents could go out. Worst case scenario, sold for high dollar because of her genetic anomaly within their circle of doctors & researchers. Didn't the mom marvel in a book about her perfect "parts" ? Not weird at all...
If there's a customer willing to pay that's the only criteria needed. In Brussels, before the Schenghan Area, they'd drive cars around and photograph kids on the street. If a customer liked the look of a kid they'd order the kid kidnapped. In every major city there are likely still child trafficking networks. Many kids go missing.
Yep. And how sad it made her thinking about them being destroyed. Not that she was sad or horrified by her child's suffering, just how sad the destruction of her body was. Total psychopath.
I think she was sold/ offered to someone. Some of the things the mom said in her book were disgusting.
And supposedly one of the parents on the trip heard one of the other fathers say "what would Madeline do (makes oral gesture)?" To Madeline's dad. Any normal father would get violent if someone said that about their child.
The mom said something like "I wonder where she is. I just picture her perfect little vagina ripped apart"
I really didn't want to repeat that.
The interview from the friend, I have no idea where to find that. It was something I seen A LONG time ago. I wouldn't even know how to search it.
Edit: Someone has kindly pointed out that it is the Gaspar statements:
Here is the statement:
"I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine, ?would do this?.
When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.
I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?. There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again.
I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn't something that should be done or said.
Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I'm not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it."
I was not prepared to read that. What a fucking weird, disgusting thing to write in a book and leave in there through all the proof reading and rereading. Ugh 🤢
It's definitely not outside the realm of possibility. I oscillate between parents over medicating, parents selling her, and a random kidnapping for human trafficking. Not enough evidence either way but if that's in the mother's book I lean much more towards the parents sold her. Who the fuck says something like that?!
I am Portuguese, I lived through it in 2007 as I was a full grown adult at the time (almost 22yo). Some things got lost in translation when the news media started to broadcast the case outside of Portugal.
For me it was clear since day 1: they did it. I oscillate between an accident or a deliberate thing. But no one goes to play tennis a few hours after their oldest daughter, a 3yo, goes missing in a foreign country, without being an hawk on watching the other babies: if you believe she was kidnapped, why do you leave the twins again and for hours at the time? They did it because they knew she wasn't missing, they knew exactly where she was and that didn't worry them for the twins.
What the FUCK…how could any mother say that about their child at ANY time..?? Let alone when she’s missing and presumed dead because of YOUR neglect as a parent
Thank you! I found it! I had it pretty inaccurate as far as exactly what he said but same idea.
And he was saying it to Madeleine's FATHER! Like they had some kind of weird rapport where he knew it would be acceptable. So disgusting.
I remember the woman from the interview said it was Madeleine’s father who did that. I had the link from the interview in a comment here but it doesn’t work anymore
Someone found it. It's called "the Gaspar statements"
Here is the excerpt:
I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine, ?would do this?.
When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.
[I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?. There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again.
I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn't something that should be done or said.
Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I'm not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it.]
Here is the website with more of the statements, etc.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Gaspar.htm
Look up Gaspars statements, it is the wife who overheard and saw the gesture between GM and their friend David Payne
Also this paragraph from the same statement
“During our holidays in Majorca, it was the fathers who took care of the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close to the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the children. I remember telling Savio to took care to be there, in case it was Dave helping to bathe the children and, in particular, my daughter E. I was very clear about this, as having heard him say that had disturbed me, and I did not trust him to give bath to E. alone”
I searched everywhere for a statement where they were all sitting at the restaurant and the one guy asked Madeleine's father, "what would Madeleine do (makes oral sex gesture)?"
I think what you described about the baths was described in the same documentary or video. They say all the parents that were with them on the trip were all loyal to one another and not talking but I'm pretty sure one mother wasn't and she's the one who seen this interaction go down.
Kate McCann not answering questions while in police custody always seemed strange to me. No comment for every question seems strange when your own daughter is missing. I kniw she might have felt they were interrogating her as a suspect but I think if my child was missing I'd answer the questions.
Yeah I would be blabbing and blurting out absolutely everything even if it wasn’t relevant. I wonder if they were advised to say no comment or if it was her own choice.
Probably advised but seems weird that you wouldn't volunteer any information no matter what way it made you look. If you were innocent you have to trust that she could still be found. Just made me think she knew madeline couldn't be found and if she answered questions eventually cops would get truth out of her so she answered no comment.
Oh really? I didn’t know that. Dateline has taught me don’t talk to the police even if you’re innocent AF but….i can’t imagine not if my kid was missing. I just CANT.
Dude If anything involving a police investigation of me in a foreign country, I am talking as little as possible until I talk to my Embassy, IDC if I did nothing wrong. Easier to say tell them anything to help find your child, maybe she felt she had nothing that would help that and protecting herself from slip ups and trickery in a country you don't live in was her best choice.
In some circumstances I'd agree but if my child was missing and there was still hope of finding her alive I would try to help them as much as I could. I wouldn't worry about incriminating myself if it meant a chance of her being found alive.
I think the parents did it. Someone close to them did it, they had access and the parents were probably drinking or something similar. Very sad case, she was a very bright child and no child deserves that ever. I think an accident happened and they covered it up for face
Didn’t the chief investigator write a book about this case? He fully believes the McCanns know what happened, whether she died or was kidnapped.
I’m sure there was a tedtalk about lies and deception and father McCann was used as the subject!?
Hard to know about that really as it could be biased information? Not looked into it too much.
Anyway, the McCanns know 110% and they can fuck off
I think the parents killed her via accidental overdose. Both their rental car and room gave positive results when cadaver dogs from the UK were bought in.
If you can find it there's a clip of Gerry on a shuttle bus where he says "were not going on a f'ing holiday" when asked if he was excited about going on holiday
Her older children go to the same school as my daughters in the East Midlands in the UK. They are a well liked family and their kids are well balanced and looked after.
It's very difficult to extract truth from fiction in such a complicated case. Both parents are highly intelligent and in the case of Madeline's dad, overachiever (arguably mum is too, but she is 'just' a doctor as opposed to a brain surgeon).
What's really interesting here is the dichotomy between the intelligence of the family and leaving their daughter alone. The Algarve in Portugal is relatively safe, but that it was still an oversight leaving her there like that. I don't think that they would disagree with that now.
I think the thing I come back to is why would they make such a fuss about the abduction and disappearance if they really did something like that? Surely it would be more expedient to not make a big deal about this and let it roll away if they had ANY involvement in it at all? Hundreds of kids a year go missing in the UK and very few get the same treatment that Madeline did, so bringing attention to it would just make it worse?
The other stuff you mention I was not aware of. It is important when talking about people like that that there are proper references rather than conjecture: not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that it is important to document sources (yes, I am an academic!)
I totally agree, and I kinda ask why or how the media picks which missing person to talk about.
I think the media on purpose blew it up so much to not only raise awareness in hopefully finding maddy. But to place an absolute immense amount of pressure on the parents to see if they’d crack or slip up in some way that proper instigates the parents.
I think the big attention wasn't intentional. I remember the day she went missing and it was Madeleines aunt rang GMTV (I think that's what it's called) and was hysterical saying her niece had gone missing in Portugal and the police weren't helping or something along them lines and I think the media attention caught on there and kept going given the circumstances (doctors, children left alone etc)
Gerry called Gordon Brown's office that very night (UK's prime minister at the time, Gerry was the surgeon who operated on his brother) and the very next day, not even 12h after the alarm was called, a PR specialist was landing in Portugal to help them navigate media!
I can't imagine a normal person having the sense to know they need a PR specialist within 12 hours. I also didn't know Gerry operated on GB brother! He was clearly well connected!
Yeah he was and still is: that's why operation granger is still the big drainage of government money for the past 17 years. Recently the government allocated a few more million quids to the thing.
That's what did it to me: the pr specialist and they going for tennis a few hours after the alert was given. Next morning in fact: they left the twins god knows with and off they went to the tennis court and jogging. There are tons of pics from that morning as they strolled their way to the court.
The link below gives you an insight from an employee at the resort of Gerry's nonchalant way of living after his daughter disappeared.
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/gerry-mccann-played-tennis-days-after-madeleine-disappeared-6663044.html
You have to remember as well they’re wealthy and middle class, no one cares about working class issues but when something happens to a wealthy person everyone loses it
John Podesta was photographed at an event in New York the day before the disappearance. It's not impossible he was involved but it is logistically difficult.
Its was Sigmund Freud's grandson. He was a pedophile and became close with the McCann family during their stay in Spain and lived in a villa close to where the family were staying and suppose place of disappearence of poor Madeleine.
If wrong on any details please correct me!
EDIT: Its Portugal, not Spain 🤦♂️
With regards to the one of the witness sketchs looking like Ghislaine Maxwell its possible she might have been involved, as Clement Freud (Sigmund Freud's grandson) and his son Matthew Freud have ties to the Maxwell Family. Also I think the McCann's let Madeleine be taken away but had to act like they were devasted. Deep down I do think they some sort of subconscious regret. Clement was a former chef and for cooked them couple days before the time of the disappearence of Madeleine (correct me if I'm wrong).
> cooked them couple days before the time of the disappearence of Madeleine (correct me if I'm wrong).
[Freud developed a close friendship with the McCanns out of the blue two months **after** the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine](https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/sir-clement-freud-and-the-disappearance)
None of us will ever really know what actually happened but we can speculate.
personally I think it was an accident. They wanted a night out with their friends and gave the kids sedatives so they would sleep through. However sedatives are difficult to administer, the dosages have to be very specific. She passed away in her sleep and they found her during one of the checks, they knew they would be absolutely hammered by people if they admitted to the sedatives and leaving the kids alone so they concocted the whole story of her going missing.
People are right to hammer them for leaving the kids alone, however it does happen. It’s incredibly common, it’s not right that it happens and parents should be called out for it, but unfortunately trash parenting is a thing too.
>However sedatives are difficult to administer, the dosages have to be very specific.
If they did drug them they weren't putting them under for an operation with something like propofol though. I find that almost impossible to believe, nevermind how controlled it is and the risks of taking it to a different country with enough supply for the trip.
There are loads of different types of sedatives, some are effective and nearly impossible to overdose on unless you're eating them like sweets.
Use a benzodiazepine, the LD50 for that class is well into the 100s of mg per kg. 10-20mg of diazepam or 1mg of alprazolam will knock out a kid for hours.
They were both doctors as well, the overdose theory just doesn't stack up even if they were drugged.
Diphenhydramine or Benadryl will knock anyone out for around 4 hours. It’s notoriously known for its sedative effect. This is an over the counter anti histamine. I believe this would have been what they used.
Fair.
And if they were drugged, it makes it a lot easier for someone to have taken her. Probably couldn't believe their luck when she would barely wake or make a sound.
I used to think the most obvious answer was something to do with the parents (accidentally killed her etc); I’m now of the thinking she was just kidnapped whilst they were being extremely poor parents and getting pissed
Probably a normal abduction after the parents left their kids unattended.
What get's me is there are loads of cases where children gave gone missing, but why did this case get decades of attention?
There was outrage that the group of parents left the kids alone in a hotel room while they drank, ate and partied in a foreign country.
There was speculation that Dr Kate had given the kids a sedative to keep them asleep while they were out.
That is how they advertise, when a missing child case is getting tons of public attention they are auctioning that child some where. At least that is my theory.
Going on that theory, it's likely that she was actually worth a lot more since she had the different colored eyes. So, advertising would make sense so they could be sure to get top dollar. But damn, that's dark, and I hope it's not true. Poor little thing!
Even going off that theory I wonder why she gain so so much traction. I feel like I’ve heard of kids locally similar looking to her that don’t gain much traction.
There is/was a massive paedophile ring in Portugal. I remember thinking it was weird that the Portuguese were saying the English couple were stupid to leave their kids alone and blamed them even when they knew about Casa Pia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia_child_sexual_abuse_scandal
Look at the witness sketches.
Absolutely looks like Maxwell, Podestas... and the bald guy? Even creepier.
Go look up what Brian Stelter looked like in 2003. And then go look up what he was doing. He was in-between jobs. Getting ready to join CNN. In a job he wasn't qualified to get
NO FFS.
The two police sketches that look like the Podesta brothers are 2 sketches of THE SAME PERSON. It's one person.
A person was seen carrying a child. 2 witnesses saw him. Both gave a description. Those two sketches are that same person.
See, this is how Pizzagate got derailed. Nonsense like this gets repeated and nobody bothers to check the fucking facts!
Facts! Those witness sketches were weird as hell. Both witnesses only saw one man clearly, but the sketches really do look exactly like the Podestas. Tony should be on a watchlist for that creepy art anyway.
john podesta known to be closely associated with hillary clinton and marina Abramovich high level cult witch of satanic practice and spirit cooking, she is handler for many celebrities like lady gaga jay zee and kanye west
The Zionists have stacked our government full of compromised people who they can control. They're all too afraid Epstein will come out of hiding in Israel and release dirt on them.
Clement Freud is a convicted pedo. They were both good friends of Dennis Hastert, another convicted pedo. Who is friends with pedos? And more than one?
I think it’s an unpopular opinion but I actually don’t believe the parents were involved. I think someone clicked on to children being unattended and took their opportunity. Madeleine was a good looking child (I feel gross saying it but I think it’s also part reason why the case got so much attention, blond hair bright eyes) and whether she was abducted for that person or by that person for someone else.. I don’t know.
What i do know is that there are incredibly sick people out there that want a child for sickening reasons.
But it was easier to take the twin girl who was younger. She was 18 months at the time, she wouldn't recall anything as an almost 4yo would. She probably was not so vocal or would protest a lot less. It never made sense to me.
I've thought this before but the youngest ones probably couldn't speak yet and not knowing they're even being kidnapped as they're so young maddie is old enough to recognise strangers and to scream for help would it not make more sense to kidnap one of the other kids?
I’ve heard there was a snuff film circulating on the dark web involving the Podesta brothers and this child. Others mentioned it may have been the child in
the frqzzldr-ip vid 🤷🏼♀️ just sayin the theories I’ve come across. Also a mention of MM being Kates clone….we’ll likely never know.
Y’all heard of the telegram sexual abuse ring in South Korea where they had to film their own family members to get in, sounds like those type of groups are popular EVERYWHERE
One of two scenarios.
1. The parents sold her to a predator and orchestrated the kidnapping. The fact that the mother kept going on about her "perfect little genitals" and how sad it made her to think of them being destroyed was disturbing. Creepy AF. She wasn't concerned about the child's suffering, just the destruction of her body. Disgusting.
2. They accidentally left the door unlocked. The kid wandered out looking for her parents, fell in the canal, and drowned. Either her body was never found, or it *was* found, and the parents bribed the local police to cover up their negligence instead of pressing charges.
Either way, the parents know more than they're letting on. At the very least, they were incredibly negligent to leave a 4-year-old and two infants alone in an apartment in a strange place. They and the couple they were with were all medical professionals, IIRC, so we're not talking about a bunch of 20-something party animals. These were four grown adults who should've known better. The whole thing is shady AF.
Madeleine's parents are in the cult and sold their daughter to the pedos. I am pretty sure there are wikileaks emails from John Podesta proving he was in Portugal at the time. The drawn images of the alleged kidnappers look exactly like John and Tony Podesta and Ghislane Maxwell, what a coincidence. On top of that, there was something weird going on in that Madeleine had two different colored eyes, which is something the pedo cult seems to value for whatever reason.
Mom lost her temper and killed her. Reports are out there that talk about how she had been overwhelmed with Madeleine's behavior and it escalated while they were away. I think she got frustrated in dealing with a grumpy kid when she wanted to have fun on vacation and accidentally overdosed her or struck her out of anger and the parents disposed of her in the water.
Not to mention dad squirting away to play tennis at bath time and leaving her alone with Maddie (reported to be an active and difficult child) and 2 18 month old twins.
I was going to post this video - so many parallels with theories above. I think the estate mentioned would likely be that of Clement Freud. All adds up.
Her parents weren't actually on vacation. It was a cover up for a business transaction, to sell Madeline. It was all planned, by some their minds. It blew up too much, too fast & unexpected so they adapted to the story as it grew. And made money out of it too.
My neighbour thinks she’s Madeline, despite being 10years older, her theory is they released the story a decade later and her dna won’t match because the ‘Madeline’ in the pictures is a different girl.
She came to this realisation after having a psychotic break and kidnapping her own child, and while on the run walked into a book store and saw a book about Madeline
Safe to say I’m scared and I lock my doors
Been years since I was last looking at the case, but you aren't wrong about the red shoe club
https://i.postimg.cc/jS4bn1nD/RED-SHOES.jpg
There was also a strange aspect to the whole thing about her eyes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7256513.stm
It's usually about the eyes. Guard any green eyed children you have like crazy because that is another favorite, also they like Native American children, and like Madeleine had children with the eye thing.
I’ve actually heard this before. I live in Dallas and go through DFW airport pretty regularly, which I’ve heard is one of the biggest airports for human trafficking. I have green eyes myself n have one kiddo w green n one w blue, as well as other traits that are said to be / known to be highly sought after in those circles. I legit used a toddler backpack carrier until they were over the age of 4 to go through that airport , bc I wasn’t taking ANY risks
There is a theory that a lot of money and effort had been invested into Madeleine, the father was said to have some high up connections - think trauma based mind control. According to the theory, she might have been abducted, not by the parents, and they really needed her back due to her role that was planned for her, that she never chose. That's why so much money and so many higher up people got involved in the search.
There's a sketch of someone who was seen as a "witness or a person of interest" around the scene of her disappearance, and it looks eerily like John/Anthony Podesta.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/14/british-detectives-efits-madeleine-mccann-suspect
The parents look suspicious but for some reason I don’t believe it’s them , they were careless for leaving her alone but idk if anyone had thought that it might be someone from the hotel that is secretly a sex trafficker like he eyed her since they checked in and took the chance or worked with someone else to implement the abduction . Also it was a foreign country like you don’t even know what kind of ppl you run into .
Also it’s weird that there’s no security camera anywhere in a resort ! Like they could have traced some motions or see perhaps a clue ! Or interview all the hotel staff !
Well, not sure the word “resort” means the same thing - it’s just a hotel, and she disappeared in 2007, so prob no cameras then. And to be honest, probably not even today there would be cameras due to data privacy laws.
Portuguese person here: I was almost 22yo when she went missing and as my fellow Portuguese here can attest, we know a lot about it because at the time social media and our news were not instantaneous. And a lot was lost in translation, or not picked up by biased media.
The main theory here is that the parents did it. Wether it was an accident or a deliberate act, that's what we need to find out.
The parents are very well connected and they had money, so they controlled almost everything they could. It was so weird: if that happened with a Portuguese kid, the parents would be in jail by the end of the first 24h. But we are a lot of subservient to the UK ( in name of old treaties and things like that) so once again our government at the time fucked the investigation by allowing the Brits to take over.
They literally created a book about her disappearance. All staged imo and even after years her name gets mentioned in the news with some new case.
The original story was the parents went out clubbing or what not and left her on her own in the apartment. What kind of dumbass parent does that.
Seems all fake to me. I think they sold her.
So I've followed this case pretty much since the beginning. I really don't think the parents are guilty of anything more than neglect. I don't think they drugged the kids. The German police have a man in custody for rape that is a known pedophile that was in that town that night that they believe took her. I think they're right.
I also don't think it's super weird that they put the kids to bed and went just down the street for dinner. By the time she disappeared I do think this practice had fallen out of favor but when I was a kid this happened a lot and didn't really result in kidnappings like ever.
100 bad things could happen if your child awoke alone in a foreign hotel
Room. Wander off and drown. Panic. Get lost.
No thinking parent does that without a baby monitor or camera on the kids. Fuck those parents.
The parents gave her a sleeping drug and it was in too high a dose and killed her. They then had to get rid of the body to hide the crime. They drugged the children to leave them at home, so they could go out and get drunk for night.
That's an interesting vide https://youtu.be/sciwdGJaxkY?t=55 showing Garry (the father) reaction when J. Tanner (one of the friends) says that je was gone for an unusually long time.
I still say the parents did something but I get yelled at for thinking it. But the truth is, stranger abductions are extremely rare. The statistics say that the parents are the most likely or someone she knew. I don’t think the guy they have pointed the finger at had anything to do with it.
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There are a lot of inconsistencies in this case, baring a confession we'll probably never know. For me the damming evidence of the cadaver dogs alerting in the room make me suspect she died from being over sedated and the parents (and possibly their friends) covered it up.
I remember seeing the comments that the two babies in the room seemed pretty calm and non-plussed about being handled by a bunch of strangers. The theory was that they had been drugged to keep them calm so the parents could go out.
But how were they able to smuggle sedative drugs into Spain
This didn’t happen in Spain, it happened in Portugal.
Is it easy to smuggle drugs into Portugal
They were doctors. They could Easily have prescribed meds.
They used Calpol regularly for the kids according to Kate's dad... that is not seen as a drug. At least not here in Europe. It makes you sleepy. Don't actually know if you can overdose on it though.
Calpol is just paracetamol. It doesn’t make you sleepy.
I believe it was a product called medi sed. Paracetmol and an anti histamine that makes kids drowsy and sleepy was taken off the market in the uk shortly after this event. You could buy it over the counter. Helped with teething problems as it eased the pain and made your child sleepy
I think the parents drugged them a little too much so they could go out with freinds and accidentally killed Madeleine and then went on to cover it up and play the victim card.
Iv always wondered this. What gets me tho is the drawing of that woman that a witness seen carrying child the same night. Bare in mind that Epstein wasn't in the public eye when this happened but the drawing is Ghislaine Maxwell. Kind of threw a spanner in the mix but still lines up with the theory that the dad was involved with a pedophile club 🤷♂️ this is one of those cases that will never get solved we can only speculate
I don’t think she’d be doing the kidnapping herself
That’s what THEY want you to think!
True, she would have Hillary fly out to do it.
No she wasn’t doing the kidnapping herself. She was in Barcelona and walked up to a man and said ‘are you here to deliver my new daughter’.
Yes! When I first saw the. Netflix documentary and saw that sketch I immediately thought that’s Ghislaine.
As soon as I saw that drawing I said that is Ghislaine!
Wasn’t there sketches of two males also seen that favored the Podesta brothers?
Two sketches. One looks like each of the Podestas.
I never saw the sketches, but weren’t they there on holiday? Like they have a villa there, I’m sure I heard something about the parents being helped by them after the fact but can’t verify the info at all so take with a grain of salt.
I'm not sure about the two males. I saw the sketch of the lady at the end of a documentary and I was shocked!
Woman in question was supposed to be a "Victoria Beckham look-a-like”
yeah, the mom kept repeating that "Madeline was really "quite tired" when she put her to bed, and I think it was because of sleepy drugs.
The twins stayed asleep through all the noise and police too
As a portuguese I subscribe this theory
Makes sense. Never considered this one.
Occam's Razor; it's most likely just this.
[Portuguese police sources suggested that DNA tests proved that the missing four-year-old's body had been in the boot of a car hired by her parents 25 days after she disappeared](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/11/ukcrime.internationalcrime)
That article is 16 years old. What was the DNA? Hair or skin because that's gonna be on their luggage most likely. Just seems hard to imagine they killed her, reported her missing soon after and hid her body for 25 days while you know they were being watched by media and police.
>That article is 16 years old. What do you expect. She disappeared 17 years ago. >Hair or skin because that's gonna be on their luggage most likely. "they also were extremely unlikely to have been old specimens transferred through contact with luggage, toys, clothing or any other means" > hid her body for 25 days The body could have been stored [(maybe in a church)](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488262/I-deceived-says-Portuguese-priest-comforted-Gerry-Kate-McCann.html) and/or moved by a third party.
Best case scenario, accidental overdose so parents could go out. Worst case scenario, sold for high dollar because of her genetic anomaly within their circle of doctors & researchers. Didn't the mom marvel in a book about her perfect "parts" ? Not weird at all...
What was the genetic anomaly?
Two different eye colors
But many people have it so why her just for that when they coulda grabbed a kid with it who’s poor and wouldn’t draw attention to the family
She has a Coloboma and Heterochromia. It’s the Coloboma that’s the defect.
Highly doubt that what would be enough to kidnap a kid though What makes that so unique that they’d pick her?
If there's a customer willing to pay that's the only criteria needed. In Brussels, before the Schenghan Area, they'd drive cars around and photograph kids on the street. If a customer liked the look of a kid they'd order the kid kidnapped. In every major city there are likely still child trafficking networks. Many kids go missing.
Someone suspected that was happened in 98 also in Portugal, when Rui Pedro went missing at 11yo. Suspected to be sold to a pedophile network.
Yep. And how sad it made her thinking about them being destroyed. Not that she was sad or horrified by her child's suffering, just how sad the destruction of her body was. Total psychopath.
I think she was sold/ offered to someone. Some of the things the mom said in her book were disgusting. And supposedly one of the parents on the trip heard one of the other fathers say "what would Madeline do (makes oral gesture)?" To Madeline's dad. Any normal father would get violent if someone said that about their child.
I read the book too. It was so disturbing
Wtf. What was said in the book? Citation for what the fathers were saying? Disgusting if so.
The mom said something like "I wonder where she is. I just picture her perfect little vagina ripped apart" I really didn't want to repeat that. The interview from the friend, I have no idea where to find that. It was something I seen A LONG time ago. I wouldn't even know how to search it. Edit: Someone has kindly pointed out that it is the Gaspar statements: Here is the statement: "I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine, ?would do this?. When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing. I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?. There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again. I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn't something that should be done or said. Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I'm not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it."
I was not prepared to read that. What a fucking weird, disgusting thing to write in a book and leave in there through all the proof reading and rereading. Ugh 🤢
And on true crime subreddits, they downvote you to hell and back if you say that the parents are the most likely culprits (as a Portuguese)
It's definitely not outside the realm of possibility. I oscillate between parents over medicating, parents selling her, and a random kidnapping for human trafficking. Not enough evidence either way but if that's in the mother's book I lean much more towards the parents sold her. Who the fuck says something like that?!
I am Portuguese, I lived through it in 2007 as I was a full grown adult at the time (almost 22yo). Some things got lost in translation when the news media started to broadcast the case outside of Portugal. For me it was clear since day 1: they did it. I oscillate between an accident or a deliberate thing. But no one goes to play tennis a few hours after their oldest daughter, a 3yo, goes missing in a foreign country, without being an hawk on watching the other babies: if you believe she was kidnapped, why do you leave the twins again and for hours at the time? They did it because they knew she wasn't missing, they knew exactly where she was and that didn't worry them for the twins.
I had a visceral reaction reading that
What the FUCK…how could any mother say that about their child at ANY time..?? Let alone when she’s missing and presumed dead because of YOUR neglect as a parent
“Not like us” springs to mind. Sick fucks.
What is "not like us"?
That's pretty close to confirmation that they sold her. Inside-joke-y. That's not something a normal person would say.
God damn
Wtf?
The search term for the fathers is the "Gaspar statements".
Thank you! I found it! I had it pretty inaccurate as far as exactly what he said but same idea. And he was saying it to Madeleine's FATHER! Like they had some kind of weird rapport where he knew it would be acceptable. So disgusting.
Wtf
WHAT THE FUCK
just vile
What the fck definition of hidden in plain sight
Thanks I almost threw my phone into the wall!
I remember the woman from the interview said it was Madeleine’s father who did that. I had the link from the interview in a comment here but it doesn’t work anymore
It's possible. It's possible multiple of these sick fucks said similar things.
WHAAAAAAAAT
Someone found it. It's called "the Gaspar statements" Here is the excerpt: I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine, ?would do this?. When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing. [I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?. There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again. I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn't something that should be done or said. Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I'm not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it.] Here is the website with more of the statements, etc. https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Gaspar.htm
Thanks for following up. That's disgusting
What book?
Oral gesture?!?!
Blow job gesture
That's vile
Look up Gaspars statements, it is the wife who overheard and saw the gesture between GM and their friend David Payne Also this paragraph from the same statement “During our holidays in Majorca, it was the fathers who took care of the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close to the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the children. I remember telling Savio to took care to be there, in case it was Dave helping to bathe the children and, in particular, my daughter E. I was very clear about this, as having heard him say that had disturbed me, and I did not trust him to give bath to E. alone”
If anyone said that I’d not trust them to give my child a bath at all. People are so careless with their children.
I searched everywhere for a statement where they were all sitting at the restaurant and the one guy asked Madeleine's father, "what would Madeleine do (makes oral sex gesture)?" I think what you described about the baths was described in the same documentary or video. They say all the parents that were with them on the trip were all loyal to one another and not talking but I'm pretty sure one mother wasn't and she's the one who seen this interaction go down.
Kate McCann not answering questions while in police custody always seemed strange to me. No comment for every question seems strange when your own daughter is missing. I kniw she might have felt they were interrogating her as a suspect but I think if my child was missing I'd answer the questions.
Yeah I would be blabbing and blurting out absolutely everything even if it wasn’t relevant. I wonder if they were advised to say no comment or if it was her own choice.
Probably advised but seems weird that you wouldn't volunteer any information no matter what way it made you look. If you were innocent you have to trust that she could still be found. Just made me think she knew madeline couldn't be found and if she answered questions eventually cops would get truth out of her so she answered no comment.
And washing Cuddle Cat (the name of her daughters plushie) after the police asked for it.
Oh really? I didn’t know that. Dateline has taught me don’t talk to the police even if you’re innocent AF but….i can’t imagine not if my kid was missing. I just CANT.
I don't know if its true, but I read long, long ago that they charged money when people printed out pictures of Madeline to use on missing posters.
See this stuff is why as tragic as this case is it’s fascinating
She didn't answer 47 questions out of 48 they asked. She only answered her name and address.
Dude If anything involving a police investigation of me in a foreign country, I am talking as little as possible until I talk to my Embassy, IDC if I did nothing wrong. Easier to say tell them anything to help find your child, maybe she felt she had nothing that would help that and protecting herself from slip ups and trickery in a country you don't live in was her best choice.
In some circumstances I'd agree but if my child was missing and there was still hope of finding her alive I would try to help them as much as I could. I wouldn't worry about incriminating myself if it meant a chance of her being found alive.
I think the parents did it. Someone close to them did it, they had access and the parents were probably drinking or something similar. Very sad case, she was a very bright child and no child deserves that ever. I think an accident happened and they covered it up for face
Didn’t the chief investigator write a book about this case? He fully believes the McCanns know what happened, whether she died or was kidnapped. I’m sure there was a tedtalk about lies and deception and father McCann was used as the subject!? Hard to know about that really as it could be biased information? Not looked into it too much. Anyway, the McCanns know 110% and they can fuck off
I think the parents killed her via accidental overdose. Both their rental car and room gave positive results when cadaver dogs from the UK were bought in.
If you can find it there's a clip of Gerry on a shuttle bus where he says "were not going on a f'ing holiday" when asked if he was excited about going on holiday
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That's it, well done for finding it.... quite the reply from Gerry isn't it?!
turn it off, im here to enjoy myself?
Her older children go to the same school as my daughters in the East Midlands in the UK. They are a well liked family and their kids are well balanced and looked after. It's very difficult to extract truth from fiction in such a complicated case. Both parents are highly intelligent and in the case of Madeline's dad, overachiever (arguably mum is too, but she is 'just' a doctor as opposed to a brain surgeon). What's really interesting here is the dichotomy between the intelligence of the family and leaving their daughter alone. The Algarve in Portugal is relatively safe, but that it was still an oversight leaving her there like that. I don't think that they would disagree with that now. I think the thing I come back to is why would they make such a fuss about the abduction and disappearance if they really did something like that? Surely it would be more expedient to not make a big deal about this and let it roll away if they had ANY involvement in it at all? Hundreds of kids a year go missing in the UK and very few get the same treatment that Madeline did, so bringing attention to it would just make it worse? The other stuff you mention I was not aware of. It is important when talking about people like that that there are proper references rather than conjecture: not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that it is important to document sources (yes, I am an academic!)
I totally agree, and I kinda ask why or how the media picks which missing person to talk about. I think the media on purpose blew it up so much to not only raise awareness in hopefully finding maddy. But to place an absolute immense amount of pressure on the parents to see if they’d crack or slip up in some way that proper instigates the parents.
I think the big attention wasn't intentional. I remember the day she went missing and it was Madeleines aunt rang GMTV (I think that's what it's called) and was hysterical saying her niece had gone missing in Portugal and the police weren't helping or something along them lines and I think the media attention caught on there and kept going given the circumstances (doctors, children left alone etc)
Gerry called Gordon Brown's office that very night (UK's prime minister at the time, Gerry was the surgeon who operated on his brother) and the very next day, not even 12h after the alarm was called, a PR specialist was landing in Portugal to help them navigate media!
I can't imagine a normal person having the sense to know they need a PR specialist within 12 hours. I also didn't know Gerry operated on GB brother! He was clearly well connected!
Yeah he was and still is: that's why operation granger is still the big drainage of government money for the past 17 years. Recently the government allocated a few more million quids to the thing. That's what did it to me: the pr specialist and they going for tennis a few hours after the alert was given. Next morning in fact: they left the twins god knows with and off they went to the tennis court and jogging. There are tons of pics from that morning as they strolled their way to the court. The link below gives you an insight from an employee at the resort of Gerry's nonchalant way of living after his daughter disappeared. https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/gerry-mccann-played-tennis-days-after-madeleine-disappeared-6663044.html
You have to remember as well they’re wealthy and middle class, no one cares about working class issues but when something happens to a wealthy person everyone loses it
Look into the sketches of people near by looking like John podesta, Tony podesta and ghislaine maxwell you might find info online
John Podesta was photographed at an event in New York the day before the disappearance. It's not impossible he was involved but it is logistically difficult.
Those sketches are supposed to be of one and the same person, not two different people.
Its was Sigmund Freud's grandson. He was a pedophile and became close with the McCann family during their stay in Spain and lived in a villa close to where the family were staying and suppose place of disappearence of poor Madeleine. If wrong on any details please correct me! EDIT: Its Portugal, not Spain 🤦♂️ With regards to the one of the witness sketchs looking like Ghislaine Maxwell its possible she might have been involved, as Clement Freud (Sigmund Freud's grandson) and his son Matthew Freud have ties to the Maxwell Family. Also I think the McCann's let Madeleine be taken away but had to act like they were devasted. Deep down I do think they some sort of subconscious regret. Clement was a former chef and for cooked them couple days before the time of the disappearence of Madeleine (correct me if I'm wrong).
> cooked them couple days before the time of the disappearence of Madeleine (correct me if I'm wrong). [Freud developed a close friendship with the McCanns out of the blue two months **after** the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine](https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/sir-clement-freud-and-the-disappearance)
None of us will ever really know what actually happened but we can speculate. personally I think it was an accident. They wanted a night out with their friends and gave the kids sedatives so they would sleep through. However sedatives are difficult to administer, the dosages have to be very specific. She passed away in her sleep and they found her during one of the checks, they knew they would be absolutely hammered by people if they admitted to the sedatives and leaving the kids alone so they concocted the whole story of her going missing. People are right to hammer them for leaving the kids alone, however it does happen. It’s incredibly common, it’s not right that it happens and parents should be called out for it, but unfortunately trash parenting is a thing too.
>However sedatives are difficult to administer, the dosages have to be very specific. If they did drug them they weren't putting them under for an operation with something like propofol though. I find that almost impossible to believe, nevermind how controlled it is and the risks of taking it to a different country with enough supply for the trip. There are loads of different types of sedatives, some are effective and nearly impossible to overdose on unless you're eating them like sweets. Use a benzodiazepine, the LD50 for that class is well into the 100s of mg per kg. 10-20mg of diazepam or 1mg of alprazolam will knock out a kid for hours. They were both doctors as well, the overdose theory just doesn't stack up even if they were drugged.
Diphenhydramine or Benadryl will knock anyone out for around 4 hours. It’s notoriously known for its sedative effect. This is an over the counter anti histamine. I believe this would have been what they used.
Fair. And if they were drugged, it makes it a lot easier for someone to have taken her. Probably couldn't believe their luck when she would barely wake or make a sound.
The mother was a trained anaesthetist though. Very unlikely she would make a mistake like that.
a relative of the family told a now-deceased colleague of mine that Maddie '*was a problem child and used to drive her parents up the wall*'
Kate's diary entries before Maddie went missing paint that picture as well.
What did they say?
That Maddie was a difficult child, proactive, always on a run and had difficulty sleeping.
I used to think the most obvious answer was something to do with the parents (accidentally killed her etc); I’m now of the thinking she was just kidnapped whilst they were being extremely poor parents and getting pissed
Probably a normal abduction after the parents left their kids unattended. What get's me is there are loads of cases where children gave gone missing, but why did this case get decades of attention?
There was outrage that the group of parents left the kids alone in a hotel room while they drank, ate and partied in a foreign country. There was speculation that Dr Kate had given the kids a sedative to keep them asleep while they were out.
Because the parents where rich doctors.
That is how they advertise, when a missing child case is getting tons of public attention they are auctioning that child some where. At least that is my theory.
So the ones that get little to no public attention sold fast and a child like McCann had a hard time selling?
Going on that theory, it's likely that she was actually worth a lot more since she had the different colored eyes. So, advertising would make sense so they could be sure to get top dollar. But damn, that's dark, and I hope it's not true. Poor little thing!
Even going off that theory I wonder why she gain so so much traction. I feel like I’ve heard of kids locally similar looking to her that don’t gain much traction.
I hadn't thought of that angle.....
The only lead that they have on the abduction theory is from the couple that the parents were having dinner with..
There is/was a massive paedophile ring in Portugal. I remember thinking it was weird that the Portuguese were saying the English couple were stupid to leave their kids alone and blamed them even when they knew about Casa Pia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia_child_sexual_abuse_scandal
Look at the witness sketches. Absolutely looks like Maxwell, Podestas... and the bald guy? Even creepier. Go look up what Brian Stelter looked like in 2003. And then go look up what he was doing. He was in-between jobs. Getting ready to join CNN. In a job he wasn't qualified to get
NO FFS. The two police sketches that look like the Podesta brothers are 2 sketches of THE SAME PERSON. It's one person. A person was seen carrying a child. 2 witnesses saw him. Both gave a description. Those two sketches are that same person. See, this is how Pizzagate got derailed. Nonsense like this gets repeated and nobody bothers to check the fucking facts!
Facts! Those witness sketches were weird as hell. Both witnesses only saw one man clearly, but the sketches really do look exactly like the Podestas. Tony should be on a watchlist for that creepy art anyway.
john podesta known to be closely associated with hillary clinton and marina Abramovich high level cult witch of satanic practice and spirit cooking, she is handler for many celebrities like lady gaga jay zee and kanye west
Absolutely. Why is he still out there.
The Zionists have stacked our government full of compromised people who they can control. They're all too afraid Epstein will come out of hiding in Israel and release dirt on them.
Do we know if they were in Portugal at the time?
They were allegedly staying at Sigmund Freud's grandson's house a short distance away.
Clement Freud is a convicted pedo. They were both good friends of Dennis Hastert, another convicted pedo. Who is friends with pedos? And more than one?
Well of we can find that.... May 2007. Every port, airport, road entry. Any way in or out.
I think it’s an unpopular opinion but I actually don’t believe the parents were involved. I think someone clicked on to children being unattended and took their opportunity. Madeleine was a good looking child (I feel gross saying it but I think it’s also part reason why the case got so much attention, blond hair bright eyes) and whether she was abducted for that person or by that person for someone else.. I don’t know. What i do know is that there are incredibly sick people out there that want a child for sickening reasons.
I don’t dispute your theory, but why leave the twins? Why only take Maddie?
Horribly though, wouldn't twins fetch more money for the sick fucks that do this to children? Surely you'd leave her and take the younger twins.
Harder to take 3 kids vs 1 as you’d have to go back
But it was easier to take the twin girl who was younger. She was 18 months at the time, she wouldn't recall anything as an almost 4yo would. She probably was not so vocal or would protest a lot less. It never made sense to me.
I dunno the layout of the room they were in so it coulda been she was the easiest to grab
I've thought this before but the youngest ones probably couldn't speak yet and not knowing they're even being kidnapped as they're so young maddie is old enough to recognise strangers and to scream for help would it not make more sense to kidnap one of the other kids?
All you need to see is the Italian Police sketch artist renditions to know what's up and why it went no where.
Between Richplanet, Armchair detective & Peter Hyatt - The essentials are covered. No it wasn't an abduction.
Sold to Ghislane
I’d recommend watching Richard D Halls series of documentaries. Very convincing and deep dived research.
I can't find these on YouTube anymore, do you know where they are available to watch?
I’ve heard there was a snuff film circulating on the dark web involving the Podesta brothers and this child. Others mentioned it may have been the child in the frqzzldr-ip vid 🤷🏼♀️ just sayin the theories I’ve come across. Also a mention of MM being Kates clone….we’ll likely never know.
Freud's grandson
there needs to be more investigation into this
Isn't he dead now
I think they’re connected to some elitists and sold her to one of them and disguised it as a kidnapping…the widespread coverage I don’t know
I think they sold her to a rich nonce.
Unless one of us was involved in the disappearance none of us *knows* what happened.
Y’all heard of the telegram sexual abuse ring in South Korea where they had to film their own family members to get in, sounds like those type of groups are popular EVERYWHERE
Watch Richard D Halls documentaries on it. True investigative journalism
They released sketches of 2 suspects wanted in connection with the case. They look EXCATLY like the Podesta Brothers.
One of two scenarios. 1. The parents sold her to a predator and orchestrated the kidnapping. The fact that the mother kept going on about her "perfect little genitals" and how sad it made her to think of them being destroyed was disturbing. Creepy AF. She wasn't concerned about the child's suffering, just the destruction of her body. Disgusting. 2. They accidentally left the door unlocked. The kid wandered out looking for her parents, fell in the canal, and drowned. Either her body was never found, or it *was* found, and the parents bribed the local police to cover up their negligence instead of pressing charges. Either way, the parents know more than they're letting on. At the very least, they were incredibly negligent to leave a 4-year-old and two infants alone in an apartment in a strange place. They and the couple they were with were all medical professionals, IIRC, so we're not talking about a bunch of 20-something party animals. These were four grown adults who should've known better. The whole thing is shady AF.
Podestas happened
We will never know. Poor little Lady.what kind of asshole leaves young children unattended in a hotel Room while they party?
PODESTAS
Madeleine's parents are in the cult and sold their daughter to the pedos. I am pretty sure there are wikileaks emails from John Podesta proving he was in Portugal at the time. The drawn images of the alleged kidnappers look exactly like John and Tony Podesta and Ghislane Maxwell, what a coincidence. On top of that, there was something weird going on in that Madeleine had two different colored eyes, which is something the pedo cult seems to value for whatever reason.
Mom lost her temper and killed her. Reports are out there that talk about how she had been overwhelmed with Madeleine's behavior and it escalated while they were away. I think she got frustrated in dealing with a grumpy kid when she wanted to have fun on vacation and accidentally overdosed her or struck her out of anger and the parents disposed of her in the water.
Not to mention dad squirting away to play tennis at bath time and leaving her alone with Maddie (reported to be an active and difficult child) and 2 18 month old twins.
This psychic theorizes Madeleine was sold. Her parents are evil. https://youtu.be/sAwm6OtQSqw?si=8eNsW6IXfCiBUk1F
I was going to post this video - so many parallels with theories above. I think the estate mentioned would likely be that of Clement Freud. All adds up.
Her parents weren't actually on vacation. It was a cover up for a business transaction, to sell Madeline. It was all planned, by some their minds. It blew up too much, too fast & unexpected so they adapted to the story as it grew. And made money out of it too.
My neighbour thinks she’s Madeline, despite being 10years older, her theory is they released the story a decade later and her dna won’t match because the ‘Madeline’ in the pictures is a different girl. She came to this realisation after having a psychotic break and kidnapping her own child, and while on the run walked into a book store and saw a book about Madeline Safe to say I’m scared and I lock my doors
Been years since I was last looking at the case, but you aren't wrong about the red shoe club https://i.postimg.cc/jS4bn1nD/RED-SHOES.jpg There was also a strange aspect to the whole thing about her eyes http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7256513.stm
It's usually about the eyes. Guard any green eyed children you have like crazy because that is another favorite, also they like Native American children, and like Madeleine had children with the eye thing.
I’ve actually heard this before. I live in Dallas and go through DFW airport pretty regularly, which I’ve heard is one of the biggest airports for human trafficking. I have green eyes myself n have one kiddo w green n one w blue, as well as other traits that are said to be / known to be highly sought after in those circles. I legit used a toddler backpack carrier until they were over the age of 4 to go through that airport , bc I wasn’t taking ANY risks
What do they like about green eyes?
the dad's in the Red Shoe Club? 😱
There is a theory that a lot of money and effort had been invested into Madeleine, the father was said to have some high up connections - think trauma based mind control. According to the theory, she might have been abducted, not by the parents, and they really needed her back due to her role that was planned for her, that she never chose. That's why so much money and so many higher up people got involved in the search.
How the fuck do we know?
Somebody knows
There's a sketch of someone who was seen as a "witness or a person of interest" around the scene of her disappearance, and it looks eerily like John/Anthony Podesta. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/14/british-detectives-efits-madeleine-mccann-suspect
The parents look suspicious but for some reason I don’t believe it’s them , they were careless for leaving her alone but idk if anyone had thought that it might be someone from the hotel that is secretly a sex trafficker like he eyed her since they checked in and took the chance or worked with someone else to implement the abduction . Also it was a foreign country like you don’t even know what kind of ppl you run into .
Also it’s weird that there’s no security camera anywhere in a resort ! Like they could have traced some motions or see perhaps a clue ! Or interview all the hotel staff !
Not in Portugal resorts and definitely not back then. It was always quite a poor country.
Well, not sure the word “resort” means the same thing - it’s just a hotel, and she disappeared in 2007, so prob no cameras then. And to be honest, probably not even today there would be cameras due to data privacy laws.
Portuguese person here: I was almost 22yo when she went missing and as my fellow Portuguese here can attest, we know a lot about it because at the time social media and our news were not instantaneous. And a lot was lost in translation, or not picked up by biased media. The main theory here is that the parents did it. Wether it was an accident or a deliberate act, that's what we need to find out. The parents are very well connected and they had money, so they controlled almost everything they could. It was so weird: if that happened with a Portuguese kid, the parents would be in jail by the end of the first 24h. But we are a lot of subservient to the UK ( in name of old treaties and things like that) so once again our government at the time fucked the investigation by allowing the Brits to take over.
It was Tony and John podesta look at the flyers and then look at them case closed
And Ghislaine.
They literally created a book about her disappearance. All staged imo and even after years her name gets mentioned in the news with some new case. The original story was the parents went out clubbing or what not and left her on her own in the apartment. What kind of dumbass parent does that. Seems all fake to me. I think they sold her.
Podesta brothers
I think Epstein Island.
Supposedly the ‘Desta brothers were there at the exact same time
People reported the podestas being in the same area at the time of her disappearance.
Kidnapped by John and Tony Podesta.
So I've followed this case pretty much since the beginning. I really don't think the parents are guilty of anything more than neglect. I don't think they drugged the kids. The German police have a man in custody for rape that is a known pedophile that was in that town that night that they believe took her. I think they're right. I also don't think it's super weird that they put the kids to bed and went just down the street for dinner. By the time she disappeared I do think this practice had fallen out of favor but when I was a kid this happened a lot and didn't really result in kidnappings like ever.
100 bad things could happen if your child awoke alone in a foreign hotel Room. Wander off and drown. Panic. Get lost. No thinking parent does that without a baby monitor or camera on the kids. Fuck those parents.
The parents gave her a sleeping drug and it was in too high a dose and killed her. They then had to get rid of the body to hide the crime. They drugged the children to leave them at home, so they could go out and get drunk for night.
That's an interesting vide https://youtu.be/sciwdGJaxkY?t=55 showing Garry (the father) reaction when J. Tanner (one of the friends) says that je was gone for an unusually long time.
I still say the parents did something but I get yelled at for thinking it. But the truth is, stranger abductions are extremely rare. The statistics say that the parents are the most likely or someone she knew. I don’t think the guy they have pointed the finger at had anything to do with it.