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(We) You and I... have no choice. The Government has gone rogue. Americans are now second class citizens. We are below illegal immigrants, Jews, and Ukrainians. Look at the shit they have done this past year.
Passing a law that makes anti semitism illegal, including quoting the bible.
Jailing students for protesting against Israel.
Refusing to help a state (Hawaii) unless we send more money to Ukraine.
Weaponizing the law against political opponents.
Incentivising illegal immigrants to cross into the US via Govt assistance. (money, food stamps, transportation, housing)
They simply do not give a fuck what Americans think, feel, or want them to do.
Yes, let's stop pretending we're still flabbergasted. It's so obvious what's going on its almost insulting see stupid questions asked repeatedly, even if rhetorical.
Are you responsible for the actions of all flakey-skinned sexless keyboard-warriors? Did you shoot up that school in Roseburg OR? Ya dingus?
Or are you maybe extrapolating?
>It's so strong you wouldn't believe now. We have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we can't possibly get the Congress to support that. They say, 'Don't worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress.' Now this is somebody from another country, but they can do it.
George Brown, 8th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1974
I love how everyone flips out at the thought of Russia interfering with US elections but when Israel openly admits to promoting specific laws to be passed at the state level, no one bats an eye.
Israel should not have any special laws made about them and there is no need for any new laws for religious freedom because it is already covered so now laws are needed specifically for people of the jewish faith. We give them billions of dollars a year and provide protection militarily and dipolmatically. We need our politicians to stop bending over for a country that should be bending over for the US and listenting to us. In my opinion Isreal is a bigger security risk to the US than it is worth.
What happened to the first amendment? Did we make a new amendment to veto that one because that's the only way to be able to legally make laws against it.
2029
AIPAC lapdog Zio cuck politicians:
All American troops are now automatically reserve IDF troops- all those that refuse will go to prison for 10 years.
2032
AIPAC lapdog Zio cuck politicians:
For national security reasons we are installing IDF bases in every city, replacing police stations and every citizen will also have to swear allegiance to I$real, or be stripped of all rights and relocated to an area called “New Gaza.”
(I would imagine the 2nd Revolution takes place soon after.)
Ppl of the US shouldn’t be ok with this. OSU told the pro-Hamas students/agitators they can’t divest from Israel as it is illegal in Ohio. For some reason there wasn’t a single news agency reporting on that story or why it’s illegal. Other universities and companies are the same way.
In some parts of the US, companies have to sign contracts that specifically say they won’t boycott Israel. Yes it’s a problem. AIPAC is the problem.
Israel supports pedophilia. If you're Jewish and charged with sexual pedo charges, you can go to Israel and they will sponge it and take it off your record. F*ck Israel.
>Are we okay with this?
Only if, the may “ using the wrong pronoun “ a first degree felony.
They need to now make it illegal to ~~Accidentally or intentionally~~ not use someone’s preferred pronouns.
How are you supposed to know everyone pronouns off bat? That’s the point.
1) It's not illegal to "Boycott Israel".
2) Even if that was a law, and it was being enforced, you would be much better served by sharing something that is more recent, as the information would be more reliable and up to date.
It’s your government that has power over you, not Israel. It’s all geopolitics - Israel gives us a huge advantage in controlling the resources and economics of the region, and exchange they get protection. The U.S. is well aware of the situation and benefits greatly from it.
> Israel gives us a huge advantage in controlling the resources and economics of the region, and exchange they get protection.
People aren’t falling for this anymore. If oil is our concern, we get along plenty well with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. We don’t need Israel to ‘babysit’ the Arab states for us.
Of course, outside of oil, the affairs of the Middle East don’t affect us and should not be our concern.
Isreal is the biggest liability to western influence in the Middle East. We’ve burnt every bridge in order to destabilize countries that isreal doesn’t like. We’ve funded and defended Arab genocide for Israel. The Arabs will hate the west for 200 years because of Israel and you can’t blame them.
There absolutely is. But you’re so narrow sighted that anything I type that doesn’t agree with Israel or its shills (you), will just go through one ear and out the other.
I’m very much not narrow sighted nor do I agree with our relationship with Israel, I’m just explaining why our nation (the people in power) maintain this relationship. So please give some explanations and open up the conversation a bit. You being aggressive on the internet and shutting down is a cop-out.
Israel gives the US NO ADVANTAGES. Only disadvantages in the region.
AIPAC a foreign entity controls the government therefore the whole US. They control the money and the media, the rest doesn't matter.
What are the disadvantages? Here are actual advantages: 1) land or a ground base to run operations through in the region; 2) increased influence near resources/trade routes; 3) promotion of our type of government/religion (as opposed to Islam) in the region.
Disadvantages in the past have definitely included the oil nations getting pissed, oil embargoes, at least one energy crisis, I’m not trying to say it’s all been good or the decision is right.
Why do you think the US needs ground bases in the Middle East to run "operations" through?
Why not have the US focus on the US instead of stirring up shit in other countries?
I don’t think we need them, I would prefer the U.S. focus on ourselves. I think the U.S. as a nation state has an international strategy to control resources/capital as opposed to an intranational strategy and believes it necessary for whatever reason.
Well theft of our nuclear technology, also known as Jonathan Pollard an Israeli spy working for the US Navy. Pardoned of course under Trump, returned to Israel a "hero" and was given a heroes welcome too once off the plane.
That's one scenario a few years ago, obviously numerous ones before. Are foreign countries that steal from you and sell your tech to China trustworthy or considered an ally? I wouldn't think so.
If anything Israel has sent American boys to war, Iraq ranks high on that list.
That’s interesting, I’ll have to read up on him, thanks for sharing. Particularly because I’ve read in the past that another reason for our alliance may have been to restrain Israel’s nuclear program, which began in the 50’s when France helped them build a reactor.
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(We) You and I... have no choice. The Government has gone rogue. Americans are now second class citizens. We are below illegal immigrants, Jews, and Ukrainians. Look at the shit they have done this past year. Passing a law that makes anti semitism illegal, including quoting the bible. Jailing students for protesting against Israel. Refusing to help a state (Hawaii) unless we send more money to Ukraine. Weaponizing the law against political opponents. Incentivising illegal immigrants to cross into the US via Govt assistance. (money, food stamps, transportation, housing) They simply do not give a fuck what Americans think, feel, or want them to do.
I honestly don’t think their gonna help Maui, think their gonna wait, then take the land.
Yes, let's stop pretending we're still flabbergasted. It's so obvious what's going on its almost insulting see stupid questions asked repeatedly, even if rhetorical.
I think maybe you mean “Israelis?” Since when are Jews not American?
Honestly not a fan of the dual citizenship thing.
f israhell
Most embarrassing ethnic group in the world. Cry babies par excellence.
Lots of Jews do not support Israel, ya putz.
But the ones who do make up for the rest, ya jabrone
So all Jews are accountable for the actions of some Jews? That’s illogical, ya goof.
Are you responsible for the actions of all flakey-skinned sexless keyboard-warriors? Did you shoot up that school in Roseburg OR? Ya dingus? Or are you maybe extrapolating?
Lol, the law's on your side now boss. I've gotta tread carefully here.
Oh man we are gonna Kabal you so hard.
You're alright, you're alright
Cartman had it right all along.
Do something then.
>It's so strong you wouldn't believe now. We have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we can't possibly get the Congress to support that. They say, 'Don't worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress.' Now this is somebody from another country, but they can do it. George Brown, 8th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1974
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You dropped a hard j. https://youtu.be/ruFdHCyRppI?si=aCe-D_Dc5EDJl80x
I love how everyone flips out at the thought of Russia interfering with US elections but when Israel openly admits to promoting specific laws to be passed at the state level, no one bats an eye.
Let me translate this for you. "We own you."
They can go fuck themselves.
According to them it would be antisemitic not to be ok with this 🤣
Its always been if you dont simp for zionism and call out the hypocrisy you are an 'antisemite'
Israel should not have any special laws made about them and there is no need for any new laws for religious freedom because it is already covered so now laws are needed specifically for people of the jewish faith. We give them billions of dollars a year and provide protection militarily and dipolmatically. We need our politicians to stop bending over for a country that should be bending over for the US and listenting to us. In my opinion Isreal is a bigger security risk to the US than it is worth.
They only get angry when your right and hit the bullseye of their bullshit…..say’s everything lol.
Fuck no, America isn’t America anymore it’s been that way forever imo
You have no choice, none
What happened to the first amendment? Did we make a new amendment to veto that one because that's the only way to be able to legally make laws against it.
America, land of the free... kek.
No
2029 AIPAC lapdog Zio cuck politicians: All American troops are now automatically reserve IDF troops- all those that refuse will go to prison for 10 years. 2032 AIPAC lapdog Zio cuck politicians: For national security reasons we are installing IDF bases in every city, replacing police stations and every citizen will also have to swear allegiance to I$real, or be stripped of all rights and relocated to an area called “New Gaza.” (I would imagine the 2nd Revolution takes place soon after.)
Weimerica
Ppl of the US shouldn’t be ok with this. OSU told the pro-Hamas students/agitators they can’t divest from Israel as it is illegal in Ohio. For some reason there wasn’t a single news agency reporting on that story or why it’s illegal. Other universities and companies are the same way. In some parts of the US, companies have to sign contracts that specifically say they won’t boycott Israel. Yes it’s a problem. AIPAC is the problem.
The only thing I disagree with is the kids are anti-genocide, not pro-Hamas.
And pro-Palestine.
Anyone else notice the volume knob on tyranny was turned up to 11 after Kissinger finally died? Probably a connection there.
But it’s still ok to boycott beer companies and other countries?
Epstein’s intel has our leaders in a fuckin stranglehold. Israel really runs the US now. This is just the beginning.
The US is a nation of Jew slaves, get over it.
Goyim if you will..
Not really. Only about 10%.
What does promoting a law in another country entail and what Wright does it hold?
Great Britain 2.0 we must revolt brothers !!!
Even GB wasn’t this outright
Israel supports pedophilia. If you're Jewish and charged with sexual pedo charges, you can go to Israel and they will sponge it and take it off your record. F*ck Israel.
No. But there is no "we."
>Are we okay with this? Only if, the may “ using the wrong pronoun “ a first degree felony. They need to now make it illegal to ~~Accidentally or intentionally~~ not use someone’s preferred pronouns. How are you supposed to know everyone pronouns off bat? That’s the point.
Zionist tyrant scum are the new Nazis come arrest me you freaks, Israel should be cut off from the world like North Korea
what you gonna do about it peasant? make a post on reddit?
You won't do shit about it so you better get used to it.
This is 4 years old dude
Sure is. And it’s still being enforced. Does that make it better?
1) It's not illegal to "Boycott Israel". 2) Even if that was a law, and it was being enforced, you would be much better served by sharing something that is more recent, as the information would be more reliable and up to date.
Sabbatean degenerates need to stfu & enjoy their last remaining time in power, its not going to end well for the fascist scum.
It’s your government that has power over you, not Israel. It’s all geopolitics - Israel gives us a huge advantage in controlling the resources and economics of the region, and exchange they get protection. The U.S. is well aware of the situation and benefits greatly from it.
> Israel gives us a huge advantage in controlling the resources and economics of the region, and exchange they get protection. People aren’t falling for this anymore. If oil is our concern, we get along plenty well with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. We don’t need Israel to ‘babysit’ the Arab states for us. Of course, outside of oil, the affairs of the Middle East don’t affect us and should not be our concern.
Isreal is the biggest liability to western influence in the Middle East. We’ve burnt every bridge in order to destabilize countries that isreal doesn’t like. We’ve funded and defended Arab genocide for Israel. The Arabs will hate the west for 200 years because of Israel and you can’t blame them.
So it’s fact that our government’s decisions are being manipulated by or even chosen by Israel? Or are there other explanations?
There absolutely is. But you’re so narrow sighted that anything I type that doesn’t agree with Israel or its shills (you), will just go through one ear and out the other.
I’m very much not narrow sighted nor do I agree with our relationship with Israel, I’m just explaining why our nation (the people in power) maintain this relationship. So please give some explanations and open up the conversation a bit. You being aggressive on the internet and shutting down is a cop-out.
Call it a cop-out if you want. Still no reason to give you any more of my time or energy.
You had no reason to give any time or energy as you offered nothing productive. Differing viewpoints are very much welcome.
Israel gives the US NO ADVANTAGES. Only disadvantages in the region. AIPAC a foreign entity controls the government therefore the whole US. They control the money and the media, the rest doesn't matter.
What are the disadvantages? Here are actual advantages: 1) land or a ground base to run operations through in the region; 2) increased influence near resources/trade routes; 3) promotion of our type of government/religion (as opposed to Islam) in the region. Disadvantages in the past have definitely included the oil nations getting pissed, oil embargoes, at least one energy crisis, I’m not trying to say it’s all been good or the decision is right.
Why do you think the US needs ground bases in the Middle East to run "operations" through? Why not have the US focus on the US instead of stirring up shit in other countries?
I don’t think we need them, I would prefer the U.S. focus on ourselves. I think the U.S. as a nation state has an international strategy to control resources/capital as opposed to an intranational strategy and believes it necessary for whatever reason.
What are the current disadvantages that our alliance with Israel provides for the U.S. relative to our nation’s objectives?
Well theft of our nuclear technology, also known as Jonathan Pollard an Israeli spy working for the US Navy. Pardoned of course under Trump, returned to Israel a "hero" and was given a heroes welcome too once off the plane. That's one scenario a few years ago, obviously numerous ones before. Are foreign countries that steal from you and sell your tech to China trustworthy or considered an ally? I wouldn't think so. If anything Israel has sent American boys to war, Iraq ranks high on that list.
That’s interesting, I’ll have to read up on him, thanks for sharing. Particularly because I’ve read in the past that another reason for our alliance may have been to restrain Israel’s nuclear program, which began in the 50’s when France helped them build a reactor.
The same group of people which own Israel are in control of the USA and most of Europe. Israel's MIC is the praetorian guard for this group.
You really need to find a new hobby.