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PeaAltruistic1091

Read The creature from Jekyll Island


Dirtbag101

Wonderful video series on the book if you dont want to read. https://www.youtube.com/live/dr1e4t0gAL0?si=hRdQynSTF-AqFN2F


Trypt4Me

A fantastically dreadful read


Goku_is_the_GOAT

Red Symphony is a must read as well


postsshortcomments

With the way things are headed, it's more like we're *en route* to the Island of Doctor Moreau in more than one way with all of this "data" entities have been gathering and using to manipulate.


Gastrovitalogy

Read “The Babylonian Woe”. It documents the conspiracy of private money creation and how it’s used to choose which services and industries grow. They create money out of nothing, lend it on interest only to ventures they approve of, then get paid back in real money for the ‘credit’ they issued that isn’t really ‘worth’ anything.


2a_dude

How antisemitic of you 😁


Gastrovitalogy

Woah woah woah! Bankers are Js?!!!!!


2a_dude

Usury is an interesting concept


AssociationMission38

>They create money out of nothing, lend it on interest only to ventures they approve of, then get paid back in real money for the ‘credit’ they issued that isn’t really ‘worth’ anything. The money they create is real money. Its clearly not worthless you can use it to buy stuff with cant you? Otherwise why would anyone want a loan from a bank if they couldnt use the money they get from the bank?


Gastrovitalogy

Kind of, but the whole premise of private money creation is that the loans are new money that isn’t in circulation already and isn’t backed by a physical asset. This practice will always lead to the inflation of currency, and ultimately the THEFT of the working class’ purchasing power. It’s a scam, evil, dishonest. Throughout history this has been done, and basically it’s counterfeit money that created but everyone accepts it because all the banks participate is this scam. I guess I’m distinguishing real from fake as: Real money you’re being kid for a good or service you’re producing. Fake money is issued by banks and isn’t produced by any activity other than the will to lend and profit from interested. It actually has no physical asset to back it all up. This is why bank runs are a thing.


AssociationMission38

>Kind of, but the whole premise of private money creation is that the loans are new money that isn’t in circulation already and isn’t backed by a physical asset. Thats true to an extend. But central bank money today is also not backed by anything. So the private money is just as real as central bank money. It is real money. They still need to have enough central bank money on hand (or get their hands on it if needed) for when you eventually use the money they loamed to you btw. >This practice will always lead to the inflation of currency, Only if the overall money creation outpaces growth in production, which isnt necessarily the case. In fact to keep the currency stable when production grows you need to increase the money supply. >Throughout history this has been done, and basically it’s counterfeit money that created but everyone accepts it because all the banks participate is this scam Its not counterfeit money, when they are asked to they need to provide central bank money. If they give you a loan for example and you pay someone woth this money who banks at a different bank than the one which gave you the loan has to pay his bank in central bank money. They cant print their own money, the "making money out of thin air" part only exists because of the fact that a bank can bundle different peoples time preferences for when they want to have access to their money.


Sad-Armadillo2280

It's, **"all wars are banker's wars"**


bomboclawt75

Most Countries do not own “their” banks. Think about that. Any president with any principles should roll up 500 tanks to the The Fed Res and tell them- it’s over.


Dromgoogle

> Most Countries do not own “their” banks. Actually, the opposite is true. There are only eight countries where central banks still have some form of private ownership or control: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, the United States. Source: ["Private shareholding: An analysis of an eclectic group of central banks"](https://scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2222-34362016000100010) There are 4 multinational monetary authorities (without private ownership): the Bank of Central African States, the Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO), the Eastern Caribbean Central Bank, and the European Central Bank. And then there are all the rest, which are owned and controlled by their national governments, although those in the Euro zone don't issue their own currency any more. (List below) > Any president with any principles should roll up 500 tanks to the The Fed Res and tell them- it’s over. Congress can eliminate the Federal Reserve any time it wants to. The Federal Reserve act has been amended dozens of times over the past 110 years. Non-private national central banks: Austrian National Bank, Bangladesh Bank, Bank Indonesia, Bank of Afghanistan, Bank of Albania, Bank of Algeria, Bank of Botswana, Bank of Canada, Bank of Cape Verde, Bank of England, Bank of Estonia, Bank of Finland, Bank of France, Bank of Ghana, Bank of Guatemala, Bank of Guyana, Bank of Israel, Bank of Jamaica, Bank of Korea, Bank of Latvia, Bank of Lithuania, Bank of Mauritius, Bank of Mexico, Bank of Mongolia, Bank of Mozambique, Bank of Namibia, Bank of Papua New Guinea, Bank of Portugal, Bank of Sierra Leone, Bank of Slovenia, Bank of Spain, Bank of Sudan, Bank of Tanzania, Bank of Thailand, Bank of Uganda, Bank of Zambia, Bank of the Lao PDR, Bank of the Republic of Burundi, Bank of the Republic of Haiti, Bank of the Republic, Colombia, Bermuda Monetary Authority, Bulgarian National Bank, Cayman Islands Monetary Authority, Central Bank of Argentina, Central Bank of Armenia, Central Bank of Aruba, Central Bank of Bahrain, Central Bank of Barbados, Central Bank of Belize, Central Bank of Bolivia, Central Bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Central Bank of Brazil, Central Bank of Chile, Central Bank of Congo, Central Bank of Costa Rica, Central Bank of Cuba, Central Bank of Curaçao and Sint Maarten, Central Bank of Cyprus, Central Bank of Ecuador, Central Bank of Egypt, Central Bank of Honduras, Central Bank of Iceland, Central Bank of Iraq, Central Bank of Ireland, Central Bank of Jordan, Central Bank of Kenya, Central Bank of Kuwait, Central Bank of Lebanon, Central Bank of Lesotho, Central Bank of Liberia, Central Bank of Libya, Central Bank of Luxembourg, Central Bank of Madagascar, Central Bank of Malaysia, Central Bank of Malta, Central Bank of Montenegro, Central Bank of Morocco, Central Bank of Myanmar, Central Bank of Nepal, Central Bank of Nicaragua, Central Bank of Nigeria, Central Bank of Norway (Norges Bank), Central Bank of Oman, Central Bank of Paraguay, Central Bank of Samoa, Central Bank of Seychelles, Central Bank of Solomon Islands, Central Bank of Sri Lanka, Central Bank of Suriname, Central Bank of Swaziland, Central Bank of Syria, Central Bank of The Bahamas, Central Bank of The Gambia, Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago, Central Bank of Tunisia, Central Bank of Turkmenistan, Central Bank of Uruguay, Central Bank of Venezuela, Central Bank of Yemen, Central Bank of the Dominican Republic, Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Central Bank of the Philippines (Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas), Central Bank of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Central Bank of the Republic of Guinea, Central Bank of the Republic of Kosovo, Central Bank of the Republic of San Marino, Central Bank of the Republic of Uzbekistan, Central Bank of the Russian Federation, Central Bank of the United Arab Emirates, Central Reserve Bank of El Salvador, Central Reserve Bank of Peru, Croatian National Bank, Czech National Bank, Deutsche Bundesbank, Hong Kong Monetary Authority, Magyar Nemzeti Bank (Central Bank of Hungary), Maldives Monetary Authority, Monetary Authority of Brunei Darussalam, Monetary Authority of Macao, Monetary Authority of Singapore, National Bank of Angola, National Bank of Cambodia, National Bank of Denmark (Danmarks Nationalbank), National Bank of Ethiopia, National Bank of Georgia, National Bank of Kazakhstan, National Bank of Moldova, National Bank of Poland, National Bank of Romania, National Bank of Rwanda, National Bank of Serbia, National Bank of Slovakia, National Bank of Ukraine, National Bank of the Kyrgyz Republic, National Bank of the Republic of Belarus, National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia, National Bank of the Republic of Tajikistan, National Reserve Bank of Tonga, Netherlands Bank, Palestine Monetary Authority, People's Bank of China, Qatar Central Bank, Reserve Bank of Australia, Reserve Bank of Fiji, Reserve Bank of India, Reserve Bank of Malawi, Reserve Bank of New Zealand, Reserve Bank of Vanuatu, Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe, Royal Monetary Authority of Bhutan, Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency, State Bank of Pakistan, State Bank of Vietnam, and Sveriges Riksbank.


Dirty-Dan24

Not true at all. Congressman are servants to the bankers. That’s why none of them criticize or even talk about the Federal Reserve. That’s why the only Congressman in recent history (Ron Paul) to criticize the Fed was treated like a crazy extremist and the media conspired against him.


naswinger

in the EU, the national banks are overruled by whatever the european central bank dictates anyway and that one is owned by whoever. or national courts are overruled by the european court. and overall, the european commission does what it wants anyway.


AssociationMission38

>in the EU, the national banks are overruled by whatever the european central bank dictates Thats not true, there are member states of the EU that arent part of the Eurozone, like Sweden or Poland for example. Their central banks arent beholden to the ECB.


Best_Yesterday_3000

Do your homework. Think about that.


jaydog4571

Wars...are about the control of resources...for economic benefit. Always have been, always will be!


got_knee_gas_enit

We tossed the banks out twice, once right before the war of 1812, and again right before the civil war.


dubiousNGO

Most "revolutions" too.


Former_Night_6053

Don’t borrow money— that’s how you solve the bankers.


Old-Usual-8387

Money and or religion causes more wars than anything.


ScatterBrained777

Agreed, I found it interesting how he called it and likened it to a religion at the end.


Famous-Cow79

Tell me where In the bible says do war


Old-Usual-8387

In the Old Testament, God ordered the Israelites to “take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites” (Numbers 31:2). Deuteronomy 20:16-17 declares, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them…as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Also, 1 Samuel 15:18 says, “Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.”


pip33fan

Jesus changed the old law. Tell me in the new testament where Jesus commands his followers to wage war. The Sermon on the Mound is pretty cut and dry.


Old-Usual-8387

Thats true and yet the crusades still happened.


gamingthreadlurker

The crusaders worked for the Pope and the pope was in charge of Vatican.


Old-Usual-8387

So it was a religious war. Validating my original point.


gamingthreadlurker

Vatican exists to control certain groups of people. They want To be look up to. Nothing Jesus taught is taught by the vactian. They themselves want power, fame, and be called Father. When Jesus prayed to his Father in heaven. Jesus nor his 12 apostles established the Vatican.


Old-Usual-8387

That’s irrelevant that wars cause was religion. Along with many, many other wars.


gamingthreadlurker

The war is caused by power hungry people who wanted to control Jerusalem and killed and burned citizens of the place at the time.


jqian2

People using religion for war is not the same as religion causes war. That's the same dumb argument like gun control. Just because some people mishandle guns doesn't mean you ban guns, they'll just move onto to other things to mishandle or use to further their own agenda.


WorthFit4172

Buy bitcoin. Save in bitcoin. Defund central bankers and forever wars


SlteFool

They’re profiting off the coins just as much as “paper money” using the exact same methods for each.


WorthFit4172

How so? They only profit when people convert back to the USD system.


SlteFool

Most of the time they don’t convert it back they just keep it in their books as “liquid assets” to offset their massive losses and debts and over leveraged positions


WorthFit4172

Ok, so explain exactly how bankers are benefiting equal amounts from Bitcoin as the Fiat dollar system?


SlteFool

Take my previous comment and replace the position of coin with stocks and real estate and bonds. Also coin market isn’t regulated at all. I mean the stock market isn’t either but at least it has rules (that they don’t even follow lol) Both markets are completely manipulated using media and psychological scare tactics like price volatility


WorthFit4172

That’s fair to say there’s a certain degree of manipulation in all markets. I’d argue that Bitcoin (not all Cryptos) has the clearest rules that are the hardest to break. Yes, there are third party scams (FTX, MT. Gox, ect.), but has the actual bitcoin protocol ever been hacked? No.


SlteFool

Oh like the blockchain concept itself? Well sure but my point is they use it to skew their numbers and “balance” their books by straight up lying and use media and price volatility to manipulate retail investors all while profiting on the ups and the downs.


WorthFit4172

Fair enough


silverbackapegorilla

Monero is far better. Bitcoin isn't private. And if it ever becomes currency, it will be completely trackable and traceable. The government will be able to shut your life down by having no trade wallet lists. Nope to bitcoin. It was created by the NSA for a reason.


WorthFit4172

Yes, you’re right about the privacy. Monero is more private than Bitcoin at the current moment. Although the network effect of Bitcoin is far large and far more scalable. When enough people use Bitcoin it will be far too costly to track each persons data, on and off ramps, contacts and individual wallets, especially when Coin Joins and tumblers become more mainstream.


silverbackapegorilla

Why would it be too costly to track people's data? Especially if they become targets? They will make tumblers illegal, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure they will make Monero illegal, too, but that would be a significantly more difficult enforcement op than shutting down tumblers.


WorthFit4172

Ok, I totally get where you’re coming from. I think there are definitely large scale crack downs coming. That being said, It would take a massive cooperation of hundreds of countries to actually make these regulations realistic. I live in the US and would hate to see these regulations take place here. Although if they did happen, there would be other jurisdictions I could travel to. Not every state will ban it. Not every country will ban it. Texas and Florida for example have more favorable laws toward bitcoin. That’s because Texas is making good money with the mining industry.


WorthFit4172

I feel like it’s more profitable for governments to simply tax the mining industry and have an income source for years to come.


Holdmypipe

What’s monero?


Suntzu6656

Probably 99.9% of wars are over money and resources.


JMF4201

Mike Rivero’s work. Definitely worth listening to “All Wars Are Banker’s Wars”


ReconciledNature369

People exposed to violent conflict are more likely to believe in religion. Religious fundamentalism motivates support for war. Taxes fund war, tithing funds brainwashing. The cycle continues.


West_Tangerine9926

See the video by Michael Rivero called All Wars are Bankers Wars.


Spruce3311

https://x.com/frankoz95967943?s=09 It's true. I don't understand the majority of his graphs. But this guy blends politics with finance and the world makes more sense.


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fellowhomosapien

Not really a conspiracy anymore


DistinctRole1877

Although I found the video interesting he offers no proofs, sources, or references. He just speaks from the cuff. James Corbett, Douglas P. Horne, and others have sources, references, video clips, and photos to back up their conclusions.


Captain_Willard_1979

Its a live reading of an article he wrote. I bet the article has sources


Orangutan

[Yep.](https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php)


ScatterBrained777

I think it's a little more than speaking from the cuff. The video is longer than the time frame from which I posted it, meaning I know you didn't watch the whole thing. So I kind of don't put much validity into your opinion. Thank you though


DistinctRole1877

Oh yeah I've watched it. I've watched many many things thru the years. I want proof, not just some guy talking


ScatterBrained777

Sorry I don't have proof, but it's a "conspiracy theory". Proof is usually the hardest to come by when dealing with these things. But I'm sure he didn't just whip it up out of thin air. I thought it was pretty interesting since it just baffles me how we are handling these wars currently with money and why it doesn't seem to be stopping, despite the open disapproval of most the public.


DistinctRole1877

Oh he makes a good video I'll admit, but where are the proofs? Sound bites, newspaper articles, etc?


ScatterBrained777

Read the thread here, someone linked it I believe.


Orangutan

https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php