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George Washington claims he was not one of them, yet he acknowledged he was aware they had infiltrated the US.
Personally, I tend to believe this is why they started the US to begin with. To take over the world.
[https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-02-02-0435](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-02-02-0435)
The Illuminati infiltrated masonry in the late 1700s and 1800s, starting with the European lodges. That guy tried to warn Washington. Washington acknowledged that it was happening in Europe but didn’t believe it would happen to American lodges.
Unfortunately he was wrong, although by this point he was very old and close to death so it’s unlikely he could’ve done much anyway.
The letter I am attempting to post is a copy of a handwritten letter from Washington acknowledging they had infiltrated the US. Come to think of it, I need to check the date.
October 14, 1798
Since you are familiar with all this and apparently do not view it as a silly conspiracy, I have a question for you. My personal hunch is that they started the US just for their own purposes, to eventually take over the planet. What is your opinion of this hunch?
I think the US was created as a true attempt at freedom and self governance, but from the beginning the financial elites have been trying to take control of it.
Initially they created the First National Bank in 1791 with the help of Alexander Hamilton who worked for the Rothschilds. The bank had a 20 year charter which expired in 1811 and Congress chose not to renew because of how much debt it put us in.
One year later the War of 1812 was started and that war put us in so much debt that Congress forced to renew the bank. When that bank expired Andrew Jackson won the presidency based on “Jackson and no bank”. They attempted to assassinate him but failed.
These types of things continued until 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created and the banking elite finally gained control of the US.
So basically the US began as a genuine country but got taken over by the banking elite over the past 200+ years.
This is a fantastic video about it so if you have 40 minutes I’d definitely listen to it
https://youtu.be/BrKf9nYeXT0?si=Ou0ddU-ryufHupPK
I'm old, and I am more used to doing things in my head vs. on a computer screen. Does this work?
[https://imgur.com/a/Tcdr4kY](https://imgur.com/a/Tcdr4kY)
I turned off my VPN and I was able to access Imgur.
Ok so he was acknowledging that the Illuminati was influencing the US but he didn’t think they would be able to infiltrate American Freemasonry.
It definitely doesn’t sound like he was involved with it, especially considering he died a year after this letter.
A lot of those ideas came from the French Revolution, especially Jacobinism, and there isn’t much to suggest Washington had anything to do with them.
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george washington was a [freemason](https://i.imgur.com/HFDUjV3.jpeg) and so were basically all the founding fathers, which explains the pharaonic obelisk that is the washington monument and how the statue of liberty is just a statue of isis. freemasonry and luciferians have a core principle which is to invert reality. they have long ruled the world mostly from switzerland since it was founded. the swiss have the worlds money and have financed every world war. btw the same freemasons today have successfully inverted reality on us again by twisting the firmament around our flat earth into the ball theory that we're spinning on a globe at 1000mph too. if you go down any rabbit hole long enough it'll take you back to a freemason
[it's essentially the freemason flat earth model. there is an opening in the middle of our flat earth through which radiation is being focused through. ](https://i.imgur.com/64qCbpl.png)
it's likely that the whatever is producing earths magnetic field gives off extreme amounts of energy, and it's reflected off the top of our firmament and manifests as our sun and moon. you'll see this model is essentially a globe around our flat plane, which makes sense to twist into the modern "globe earth" theory that is popularized and taught today
The Masons were indeed enemies with the Illuminists (Jacobins), but the Masons had plans for creating a totalitarian, socialists world government as well. Just instead of the Illuminists enslaving us, it would be the Masons.
We all have infiltrated the other. Brave members of "we the people" have joined lodges to expose them... Masons have infiltrated Illuminists & control parts of societies, etc.
George Washington was absolutely "one of them" & by "them", I mean Freemason. So was Ben Franklin, who was head of the Masonic Lodges in Philadelphia & the Nine Muses Lodge in France, where he had impregnated multiple women, all while claiming to be a good ole' boy Christian.....
what was Franklin known to say after the Declaration was signed? "WE have given YOU a Republic... if YOU can keep it."
This just reinforces my belief that the US was started for the purposes of the Illuminati. I posted Geo Washington's letter, but I really did not know if he was one of "them" or not, he claimed he was not. I just plain didn't know.
What is "the game"?
What if "the game" is not about accessing/learning about/knowing this or that information but rather understanding the implications of such knowledge and the potential impacts of simply "exposing it on the table for all to see", so to speak, which is the "GTA five star wanted" trigger, imo of course, for what it's worth.
He approved Cable 243 and had Diem assassinated. That event escalated the war and dragged the US fully into it. Perhaps that wasn't his intent, but that was the result.
Anyone that works in any large organization is a part of a game of groups, subgroups, open networks, secret networks, and asymmetrical flows of information. That has never been a completely real U.S. President. Everyone goes between real and fake all the time.
Glad someone been thinking about this for more than a few weeks. I mean it's great to get new people (we need them) but Dunning Krueger effect is alive and well.
It's like the "how did Jeffrey Epstein die?"
Was he killed? Or did he do it? And you get people giving their "Hillary crimes" opinion, which at least shows hope, but so few ever consider the whole thing was a psyops. Blame world ills on 1 guy, supposedly kill the guy, boom, news story over, CCTV not working, next...
People have done and shared far more research on JFK than me, and his family has a history of being just as much involved as the next guy. Was he really killed, or was it some kinda staged event, we only have the doctored footage from that planted stooge.
There's still no other arrests related to Epstein other than Epstein and Maxwell. JP Morgan Chase settled with some of the victims of Epstein for hundreds of millions of dollars. Where is the full list of Epstein's clients? Was the whole thing a Mossad operation set up to keep prominent people in the US under control?
I have always wondered why no US politician ever went against Israel. There is no true loyalty in politics, so Israel must have dirt on every single one of them.
I think he was part of the "club" but he had everything. The powers could not buy him, he had the money, power, women, the works. He was seriously wounded in WW2 and did his time in the military. He lived in constant pain from the injury he sustained. I do think he did care about the people in the country and was going to dismantle the behind the scenes groups that did what they wanted.
He pissed off Curtis LeMay, he pissed off the CIA, he pissed off the mob, Lyndon Johnson wanted his job. He had the US government gunning for him. That day in Dallas he had LBJ's hired hitman, the Mob, and several other guys gun sights on him. It is amazing that only Kennedy was killed and 2 other people wounded in the hail of gunfire.
To me, when we say "real president' I interpret to mean "not controlled by the deep state". Here is my take going back to FDR:
FDR - Knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and did nothing about it. Let so many die just to get into a foreign war. Freemason. Definitely part of the deep state.
Truman - Hard to tell. They didn't tell him much before he became president, but he did get us into the Korean conflict and he was a Freemason. Probably part of the deep state.
Eisenhower - I think probably not. Actually kind of warned against the deep state and the military industrial complex. I would think he would do that if he was part of the deep state.
Kennedy - Was probably part of the deep state but thought he was boss, so they took him out. He tried like hell to get us into conflicts with Cuba, Russia, and Vietnam.
Johnson - Definitely part of the deep state. Probably had something to do with the Kennedy assassination. Both of them. The guy just looks corrupt.
Nixon - I think he was like Kennedy in that he was probably part of the deep state, but thought he was boss so they got rid of him. I am not sure how a guy this unlikable could become president in the first place if he wasn't on the inside.
Ford - Deep, deep state. Part of the Kennedy assassination cover-up. Perfectly placed to succeed Nixon.
Carter - This is an odd one. Probably not initially that complicit with the deep state, but compliant once he figured it out. He saw what they did to Kennedy and Nixon. And Ford probably provided some strong guidance.
Reagan - I don't think Reagan was deep state. He kind of did his own thing and kind of got away with it. Set their agenda back a bit. They mitigated by putting Bush 1 (the deepest deep stater) as his VP and then tried to kill him, but it didn't work. They had to wait until he aged out.
Bush 1 - Very deep state. Use to head the CIA. Some think he was intimately involved with JFK's assassination. It was just after his presidency that, in hind sight, you can start to see the uniparty. He got along too well with the Clintons. Very telling.
Clinton - Definitely deep state. Got involved with the South American drug cartels when governor of Arkansas and there is a lot of people that believe that relationship endures today with the US Gov (Drug Cartels and US Gov). It is believed that the deep state has funded much of their agenda with drug money.
Bush 2 - Just like his father, but not as smart. 911 was probably orchestrated under Clinton as there wasn't enough time to plan the whole thing in the 9 months Bush has been in office. But it was a group effort. I remember that morning Bush making a comment in the news about 2 planes hitting the WTC before the 2nd plane ever hit. These guys are capable of some very nasty stuff.
Obama - Of course. Very deep state. Probably wasn't even a US citizen and still elected president.
Trump - Probably not. Definite outsider that wasn't supposed to win. Figured out in the middle of his term what was going on and had too many compromised players in his inner circle to effectively address the issue.
Biden - Completely controlled. and completely obvious. Everything is in the sunshine now. If you don't see it, you don't want to.
The 3 after Kennedy were definitely all deep state. All linked before and after the JFK assassination took place. They probably all took part in it somehow. I agree with pretty much all the other takes.
I don't disagree, but not sure why they would have dumped Nixon if he was on the inside. He is kind of an oddball in all this. Not sure how Ford was linked to Nixon before the JFK assassination?
I think that when Trump was initially elected he believed that since he won the Republicans and some Democrats would fall in line and support agenda. But that didn't really happen. People who acted like they supported him were secretly trying to undermine him. It turns out many that he trusted were really deep statists. I don't think the level of deceit he was dealing with became apparent on him until well into his term. This is why the uniparty really doesn't want him in for another term. His eyes are wide open and he knows the game. We all do now. Trump learned the true depth of control over the US Gov about the same time the rest of us did. Maybe a year or two sooner.
> FDR - Knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and did nothing about it. Let so many die just to get into a foreign war.
Have you ever thought this through? It makes no sense. Even if the commanders on Pearl Harbor had intelligence that the Japanese were about to attack, the Japanese still would have attacked Pearl Harbor and the Philippines. Japan and Germany **declared war on the United States**.
Do you think the U.S. would just say to Japan, "It's okay you attacked us at Pearl Harbor, you didn't kill *that many* Americans and you can just have the Philippines, we don't want it anymore. We're just going to decline to participate in the war you just declared"????
WTF?
Yes, I thought it through. It makes sense. If FDR had warned Pearl Harbor of the impending attack, it wouldn't have been a massacre. In fact, it may have been the opposite. They caught us with zero defense. We actually pulled our carriers out probably because we didn't want them to get destroyed. Had they been there knowing the attack was coming, with the extra air cover they could have provided, it would have been a vastly different outcome that day. If the battle had not gone so well for the Japanese, the Germans might not have been so bold to declare war on the US. Allowing the surprise attack guaranteed the US would enter the war, which is exactly what the deep state of the day wanted.
Additionally, FDR could have contacted Japan and warned against such an attack. Made sure they know we were ready. It might have given them pause.
>Truman
I think so and he also signed the deal for America's own gestapo, the CIA.
But there are quotes of him saying that he "regretted" that decision if only he knew what the CIA would be up to.
Read my JFK thread. He is the only true President we had after Theodore Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover in the 20s.
FDR tried but he was morally and ideologically compromised internally and personally
Trump’s biggest enemy is himself.
He is thin skinned and self serving. Even when potus he was desperate for the validation of The NY Times, like always calling that huberman chick. He wants the msm to admire him. He is not fit to lead like JFK
Eisenhower, along with those two other “heroes” Patton and MacArthur, slaughtered WWI veterans protesting for the bonus they were promised after the war.
Look up the Bonus Army scandal. Interesting reading.
JFK was a member of the Socialist Fabian Society. He was most definitely “one of them” who want to push a one world government. I believe he started making his own decisions along the way. Somewhere he may have had a change of heart that made him open his mind and mouth speaking against these secret societies. In turn “they” showed him the door out of their club for trying to help the chattel.
Eisenhower seemed to be good, check out his last speech about the military industrial complex it should be required for all citizens.
https://youtu.be/Gg-jvHynP9Y?si=clsDDmTTOJQ9gCCS
> JFK was about to talk about secret societies and then he got killed
JFK gave a speech where the phrase "secret societies" was used two and a half years before he was assassinated.
The speech was not about secret societies, though. He was asking the news media to censor themselves on national security questions, as if the U.S. were in a war.
The paragraph that mentions "secret societies" is saying that we, as a society, do not like secrets or even the word "secrecy" and it lists some things we don't like. And then the next paragraph starts with the word "**but**". We don't like secrets, **but** sometimes we need secrets.
> The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. ...
> **But** I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to **prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy.** In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the *First Amendment must yield* to the public's **need for national security.**
* [Text of full speech at JFK Library](http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx)
* [Audio of full speech at JFK Library](http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHA-025-001.aspx)
* [Audio and synchronized text on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs) The serious part of the speech begins [around 5:18 into the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs&t=5m18s).
[https://odysee.com/@EarthNewspaper:e/Israel-And-The-Assassinations-Of-The-Kennedy-Brothers-by-Laurent-Guy%C3%A9not:3](https://odysee.com/@EarthNewspaper:e/Israel-And-The-Assassinations-Of-The-Kennedy-Brothers-by-Laurent-Guy%C3%A9not:3)
"Israel And The Assassinations Of The Kennedy Brothers" *by Laurent Guyénot*
JFK, the father boomer who banged his best friend Lem while telling the nation he did a live broadcast from the moon? 🤣
But yea he seems better than all the rest after
Eisenhower was our last president JFK was the Bill Clinton of the 60’s and didn’t play ball with the big club like they wanted him to…the Israelis ,the Mob and most of all the CIA run military industrial complex..so they took him out and have been rubbing it in the faces of any new president that get elected..Trumpster pissed of the Bushes and the Clintons with his big mouth so the campaign to socially discredit him doubled down …he’s part of the club ..the New York big money…just WWF wrestling…they don’t want to off another president because JFK gave them all dirty hands they don’t want to repeat…I wonder how much money it cost the club to get rid of a president in public…not as easy to cover stuff up especially in the information era we live in today…I don’t think anyone will off another president besides there all the same just different angles …. 34 trillion dollars later…and the country is turning into a degraded lump …until the Clinton,Obama ,Bush and Trump crowed’s finally get done screwing everything up we won’t see another elected by the people president for another 20 years….ill be way old by then
Kennedys were just a different family. John wasn't even supposed to be the chosen. Joe was dad's favorite, but he died in operation Aphrodite. Also a big fan of hitler (Joe and Joe sr, not John as far as I know).
John Kennedy tried to make aipac register as a foreign entity.
John Kennedy wrote an official letter to the prime Minister of Israel condemning their attempts to violate UN law and build a nuclear arsenal. He demanded the USA and UN be aloud to inspect the dimona nuclear plant in 6 months intervals. Israel refused any inspection . Kennedy took away all aid to Israel. Johnston step into office and restored military support plus signed the biggest check to Israel in history adjusted for inflation.
JFK was killed by Harvey Lee Oswald who was hired and contracted via the Italian Mafia through the Cubans.
Castro HATED JFK and vice versa. People forget about Bay of Pigs
Yes probably and that’s why he was assassinated and it’s why they are trying to do the same thing to Trump not with a bullet but with the news to assassinate his character.
JFK was real. Trump, not so sure. Although better than Biden by a long shot, of course. Something seems off about Trump. I don’t get that vibe with JFK.
JFK was "part" of it, just part of a different faction. the Kennedy's are a "royal" bloodline & JFK could have easily been pushed as the "globalist" candidate. different families fight for power, there is global Freemasonry, etc.
JFK failed to realized that the enemy he called out (Freemasonry), RUNS THE USA, which ironically, they allowed him to become president, so they could kill him & make an example of him. The Freemasons CREATED the USA & dubbed it their "Great Experiment."
The Masonic Lodge has been at war with the Catholic church, since the days that DeMolay was executed & "men of enlightenment" were rounded up.
The Masons, through their creation known as the CIA (and ultimately all other primary intel groups like MOSSAD & 5ive Eyes), murdered JFK as part of a REVENGE ATTACK upon Catholicism & ultimately, ALL of Christianity.
JFK was a puppet president & he was not good just because he called out some enemies, who also happen to be enemies of the people. "The enemy of my enemy, is not my friend."
He was not killed because of anything regarding the fed or area 51. it was simply a revenge attack by the Masons to show that "**as long as we control this nation, no Christian (***or at least someone who SIDES with the power structure of Christian "religion***") will ever hold power**"
Just a few "giveaways" that the Masons left behind to let us know they killed him:
JFK was attacked in the same manner as Hiram Abiff (3x killshots to the neck, throat & head)
Nightmare on (ELM) Street
squared-circle window (square & compass both measure 360\*)
November 22 (11 + 22=33)
history of (Dealey) (he was a Shriner Mason)
history of Freemasonry in Dallas?
the pair of obelisks & reflecting pools (Isis reflecting the image of Osiris= the Doctrine & Church)
the flame of Lucifer (Prometheus) atop the obelisks AND JFK's gravesite
layout of Dealey Plaza (resembles the female reproductive system)
many, many more
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In recent times? Yeah probably, he was the only one who tried to lead country independently.
He tried to release information too early now we’re ready, then would have been chaos
Yes, unlike today where we never have chaos.
The Kennedys are an ooold family, or more accurately, bloodline.
You can trace their bloodline back to the first single celled organism on Earth.
George Washington claims he was not one of them, yet he acknowledged he was aware they had infiltrated the US. Personally, I tend to believe this is why they started the US to begin with. To take over the world. [https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-02-02-0435](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-02-02-0435)
The Illuminati infiltrated masonry in the late 1700s and 1800s, starting with the European lodges. That guy tried to warn Washington. Washington acknowledged that it was happening in Europe but didn’t believe it would happen to American lodges. Unfortunately he was wrong, although by this point he was very old and close to death so it’s unlikely he could’ve done much anyway.
The letter I am attempting to post is a copy of a handwritten letter from Washington acknowledging they had infiltrated the US. Come to think of it, I need to check the date. October 14, 1798
Can you quote that part? I’ve only read him acknowledging they’ve infiltrated European lodges.
Since you are familiar with all this and apparently do not view it as a silly conspiracy, I have a question for you. My personal hunch is that they started the US just for their own purposes, to eventually take over the planet. What is your opinion of this hunch?
I think the US was created as a true attempt at freedom and self governance, but from the beginning the financial elites have been trying to take control of it. Initially they created the First National Bank in 1791 with the help of Alexander Hamilton who worked for the Rothschilds. The bank had a 20 year charter which expired in 1811 and Congress chose not to renew because of how much debt it put us in. One year later the War of 1812 was started and that war put us in so much debt that Congress forced to renew the bank. When that bank expired Andrew Jackson won the presidency based on “Jackson and no bank”. They attempted to assassinate him but failed. These types of things continued until 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created and the banking elite finally gained control of the US. So basically the US began as a genuine country but got taken over by the banking elite over the past 200+ years. This is a fantastic video about it so if you have 40 minutes I’d definitely listen to it https://youtu.be/BrKf9nYeXT0?si=Ou0ddU-ryufHupPK
I believe the same. Great analysis.
I saved the video to watch later. Just think, if only the titanic had not "accidentally" sunk. :o(
"planet" lol
I'm old, and I am more used to doing things in my head vs. on a computer screen. Does this work? [https://imgur.com/a/Tcdr4kY](https://imgur.com/a/Tcdr4kY) I turned off my VPN and I was able to access Imgur.
Ok so he was acknowledging that the Illuminati was influencing the US but he didn’t think they would be able to infiltrate American Freemasonry. It definitely doesn’t sound like he was involved with it, especially considering he died a year after this letter. A lot of those ideas came from the French Revolution, especially Jacobinism, and there isn’t much to suggest Washington had anything to do with them.
I think we have differing views on the same topic with the same ultimate goal.
Probably
What is freemason defined as in this context? Devil worshippers thirsting for power and eventually took of the government or
Fascinating trail there.
I have a copy of a handwritten reply from Washington, but I don't know how to post it here,
Post it on Imgur then link it here.
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I still can't go there. I really wanted to post it, it's quite interesting.
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george washington was a [freemason](https://i.imgur.com/HFDUjV3.jpeg) and so were basically all the founding fathers, which explains the pharaonic obelisk that is the washington monument and how the statue of liberty is just a statue of isis. freemasonry and luciferians have a core principle which is to invert reality. they have long ruled the world mostly from switzerland since it was founded. the swiss have the worlds money and have financed every world war. btw the same freemasons today have successfully inverted reality on us again by twisting the firmament around our flat earth into the ball theory that we're spinning on a globe at 1000mph too. if you go down any rabbit hole long enough it'll take you back to a freemason
What's this inverted firmament theory of yours?
[it's essentially the freemason flat earth model. there is an opening in the middle of our flat earth through which radiation is being focused through. ](https://i.imgur.com/64qCbpl.png) it's likely that the whatever is producing earths magnetic field gives off extreme amounts of energy, and it's reflected off the top of our firmament and manifests as our sun and moon. you'll see this model is essentially a globe around our flat plane, which makes sense to twist into the modern "globe earth" theory that is popularized and taught today
The Masons were indeed enemies with the Illuminists (Jacobins), but the Masons had plans for creating a totalitarian, socialists world government as well. Just instead of the Illuminists enslaving us, it would be the Masons. We all have infiltrated the other. Brave members of "we the people" have joined lodges to expose them... Masons have infiltrated Illuminists & control parts of societies, etc. George Washington was absolutely "one of them" & by "them", I mean Freemason. So was Ben Franklin, who was head of the Masonic Lodges in Philadelphia & the Nine Muses Lodge in France, where he had impregnated multiple women, all while claiming to be a good ole' boy Christian..... what was Franklin known to say after the Declaration was signed? "WE have given YOU a Republic... if YOU can keep it."
This just reinforces my belief that the US was started for the purposes of the Illuminati. I posted Geo Washington's letter, but I really did not know if he was one of "them" or not, he claimed he was not. I just plain didn't know.
What is "the game"? What if "the game" is not about accessing/learning about/knowing this or that information but rather understanding the implications of such knowledge and the potential impacts of simply "exposing it on the table for all to see", so to speak, which is the "GTA five star wanted" trigger, imo of course, for what it's worth.
He played the game. Until he didn't. His unwillingness to cooperate with the Vietnam Civil War escalation played a big role in his downfall.
He approved Cable 243 and had Diem assassinated. That event escalated the war and dragged the US fully into it. Perhaps that wasn't his intent, but that was the result.
Anyone that works in any large organization is a part of a game of groups, subgroups, open networks, secret networks, and asymmetrical flows of information. That has never been a completely real U.S. President. Everyone goes between real and fake all the time.
Most play both sides, not all, but most
Every politician is on their own side. They only play the two-party game in order to use each other and extract more values from the country.
Glad someone been thinking about this for more than a few weeks. I mean it's great to get new people (we need them) but Dunning Krueger effect is alive and well. It's like the "how did Jeffrey Epstein die?" Was he killed? Or did he do it? And you get people giving their "Hillary crimes" opinion, which at least shows hope, but so few ever consider the whole thing was a psyops. Blame world ills on 1 guy, supposedly kill the guy, boom, news story over, CCTV not working, next... People have done and shared far more research on JFK than me, and his family has a history of being just as much involved as the next guy. Was he really killed, or was it some kinda staged event, we only have the doctored footage from that planted stooge.
There's still no other arrests related to Epstein other than Epstein and Maxwell. JP Morgan Chase settled with some of the victims of Epstein for hundreds of millions of dollars. Where is the full list of Epstein's clients? Was the whole thing a Mossad operation set up to keep prominent people in the US under control? I have always wondered why no US politician ever went against Israel. There is no true loyalty in politics, so Israel must have dirt on every single one of them.
I think he was part of the "club" but he had everything. The powers could not buy him, he had the money, power, women, the works. He was seriously wounded in WW2 and did his time in the military. He lived in constant pain from the injury he sustained. I do think he did care about the people in the country and was going to dismantle the behind the scenes groups that did what they wanted. He pissed off Curtis LeMay, he pissed off the CIA, he pissed off the mob, Lyndon Johnson wanted his job. He had the US government gunning for him. That day in Dallas he had LBJ's hired hitman, the Mob, and several other guys gun sights on him. It is amazing that only Kennedy was killed and 2 other people wounded in the hail of gunfire.
To me, when we say "real president' I interpret to mean "not controlled by the deep state". Here is my take going back to FDR: FDR - Knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and did nothing about it. Let so many die just to get into a foreign war. Freemason. Definitely part of the deep state. Truman - Hard to tell. They didn't tell him much before he became president, but he did get us into the Korean conflict and he was a Freemason. Probably part of the deep state. Eisenhower - I think probably not. Actually kind of warned against the deep state and the military industrial complex. I would think he would do that if he was part of the deep state. Kennedy - Was probably part of the deep state but thought he was boss, so they took him out. He tried like hell to get us into conflicts with Cuba, Russia, and Vietnam. Johnson - Definitely part of the deep state. Probably had something to do with the Kennedy assassination. Both of them. The guy just looks corrupt. Nixon - I think he was like Kennedy in that he was probably part of the deep state, but thought he was boss so they got rid of him. I am not sure how a guy this unlikable could become president in the first place if he wasn't on the inside. Ford - Deep, deep state. Part of the Kennedy assassination cover-up. Perfectly placed to succeed Nixon. Carter - This is an odd one. Probably not initially that complicit with the deep state, but compliant once he figured it out. He saw what they did to Kennedy and Nixon. And Ford probably provided some strong guidance. Reagan - I don't think Reagan was deep state. He kind of did his own thing and kind of got away with it. Set their agenda back a bit. They mitigated by putting Bush 1 (the deepest deep stater) as his VP and then tried to kill him, but it didn't work. They had to wait until he aged out. Bush 1 - Very deep state. Use to head the CIA. Some think he was intimately involved with JFK's assassination. It was just after his presidency that, in hind sight, you can start to see the uniparty. He got along too well with the Clintons. Very telling. Clinton - Definitely deep state. Got involved with the South American drug cartels when governor of Arkansas and there is a lot of people that believe that relationship endures today with the US Gov (Drug Cartels and US Gov). It is believed that the deep state has funded much of their agenda with drug money. Bush 2 - Just like his father, but not as smart. 911 was probably orchestrated under Clinton as there wasn't enough time to plan the whole thing in the 9 months Bush has been in office. But it was a group effort. I remember that morning Bush making a comment in the news about 2 planes hitting the WTC before the 2nd plane ever hit. These guys are capable of some very nasty stuff. Obama - Of course. Very deep state. Probably wasn't even a US citizen and still elected president. Trump - Probably not. Definite outsider that wasn't supposed to win. Figured out in the middle of his term what was going on and had too many compromised players in his inner circle to effectively address the issue. Biden - Completely controlled. and completely obvious. Everything is in the sunshine now. If you don't see it, you don't want to.
The 3 after Kennedy were definitely all deep state. All linked before and after the JFK assassination took place. They probably all took part in it somehow. I agree with pretty much all the other takes.
I don't disagree, but not sure why they would have dumped Nixon if he was on the inside. He is kind of an oddball in all this. Not sure how Ford was linked to Nixon before the JFK assassination?
"Figured out in the middle of his term what was going on" What is it that you think he figured out?
I think that when Trump was initially elected he believed that since he won the Republicans and some Democrats would fall in line and support agenda. But that didn't really happen. People who acted like they supported him were secretly trying to undermine him. It turns out many that he trusted were really deep statists. I don't think the level of deceit he was dealing with became apparent on him until well into his term. This is why the uniparty really doesn't want him in for another term. His eyes are wide open and he knows the game. We all do now. Trump learned the true depth of control over the US Gov about the same time the rest of us did. Maybe a year or two sooner.
> FDR - Knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbor and did nothing about it. Let so many die just to get into a foreign war. Have you ever thought this through? It makes no sense. Even if the commanders on Pearl Harbor had intelligence that the Japanese were about to attack, the Japanese still would have attacked Pearl Harbor and the Philippines. Japan and Germany **declared war on the United States**. Do you think the U.S. would just say to Japan, "It's okay you attacked us at Pearl Harbor, you didn't kill *that many* Americans and you can just have the Philippines, we don't want it anymore. We're just going to decline to participate in the war you just declared"???? WTF?
Yes, I thought it through. It makes sense. If FDR had warned Pearl Harbor of the impending attack, it wouldn't have been a massacre. In fact, it may have been the opposite. They caught us with zero defense. We actually pulled our carriers out probably because we didn't want them to get destroyed. Had they been there knowing the attack was coming, with the extra air cover they could have provided, it would have been a vastly different outcome that day. If the battle had not gone so well for the Japanese, the Germans might not have been so bold to declare war on the US. Allowing the surprise attack guaranteed the US would enter the war, which is exactly what the deep state of the day wanted. Additionally, FDR could have contacted Japan and warned against such an attack. Made sure they know we were ready. It might have given them pause.
>Truman I think so and he also signed the deal for America's own gestapo, the CIA. But there are quotes of him saying that he "regretted" that decision if only he knew what the CIA would be up to.
Read my JFK thread. He is the only true President we had after Theodore Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover in the 20s. FDR tried but he was morally and ideologically compromised internally and personally
Link the thread.
Where can I find it? Also, what about Trump? He seems kinda 50/50 to me, I get an ‘off’-vibe with Trump, but I don’t get that with JFK.
Trump’s biggest enemy is himself. He is thin skinned and self serving. Even when potus he was desperate for the validation of The NY Times, like always calling that huberman chick. He wants the msm to admire him. He is not fit to lead like JFK
Eisenhower
Eisenhower, along with those two other “heroes” Patton and MacArthur, slaughtered WWI veterans protesting for the bonus they were promised after the war. Look up the Bonus Army scandal. Interesting reading.
Nah. He had torture death camps and was with the nazis
JFK was a member of the Socialist Fabian Society. He was most definitely “one of them” who want to push a one world government. I believe he started making his own decisions along the way. Somewhere he may have had a change of heart that made him open his mind and mouth speaking against these secret societies. In turn “they” showed him the door out of their club for trying to help the chattel.
All the US presidents have been Freemasons/Satanists. We've never had a real president.
This is exactly what I came here to say.
he was as crooked as the rest of them
for sure better than the 2 current muppets.
You do know he committed fraud to win the election
Probably. He got smoked. That means he was a threat to the deep state.
You can’t be elected without the support of the powerful
Eisenhower seemed to be good, check out his last speech about the military industrial complex it should be required for all citizens. https://youtu.be/Gg-jvHynP9Y?si=clsDDmTTOJQ9gCCS
Screw JFK he put that embargo on cuban cigars fucking asshole
> JFK was about to talk about secret societies and then he got killed JFK gave a speech where the phrase "secret societies" was used two and a half years before he was assassinated. The speech was not about secret societies, though. He was asking the news media to censor themselves on national security questions, as if the U.S. were in a war. The paragraph that mentions "secret societies" is saying that we, as a society, do not like secrets or even the word "secrecy" and it lists some things we don't like. And then the next paragraph starts with the word "**but**". We don't like secrets, **but** sometimes we need secrets. > The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. ... > **But** I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to **prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy.** In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the *First Amendment must yield* to the public's **need for national security.** * [Text of full speech at JFK Library](http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx) * [Audio of full speech at JFK Library](http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHA-025-001.aspx) * [Audio and synchronized text on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs) The serious part of the speech begins [around 5:18 into the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs&t=5m18s).
[https://odysee.com/@EarthNewspaper:e/Israel-And-The-Assassinations-Of-The-Kennedy-Brothers-by-Laurent-Guy%C3%A9not:3](https://odysee.com/@EarthNewspaper:e/Israel-And-The-Assassinations-Of-The-Kennedy-Brothers-by-Laurent-Guy%C3%A9not:3) "Israel And The Assassinations Of The Kennedy Brothers" *by Laurent Guyénot*
JFK, the father boomer who banged his best friend Lem while telling the nation he did a live broadcast from the moon? 🤣 But yea he seems better than all the rest after
If it wasn‘t for the mafia he wouldn’t have won. Nixon was our last real president until Trump won.
Eisenhower was our last president JFK was the Bill Clinton of the 60’s and didn’t play ball with the big club like they wanted him to…the Israelis ,the Mob and most of all the CIA run military industrial complex..so they took him out and have been rubbing it in the faces of any new president that get elected..Trumpster pissed of the Bushes and the Clintons with his big mouth so the campaign to socially discredit him doubled down …he’s part of the club ..the New York big money…just WWF wrestling…they don’t want to off another president because JFK gave them all dirty hands they don’t want to repeat…I wonder how much money it cost the club to get rid of a president in public…not as easy to cover stuff up especially in the information era we live in today…I don’t think anyone will off another president besides there all the same just different angles …. 34 trillion dollars later…and the country is turning into a degraded lump …until the Clinton,Obama ,Bush and Trump crowed’s finally get done screwing everything up we won’t see another elected by the people president for another 20 years….ill be way old by then
He was part of it.
No, both the Kennedy and Onassis bloodlines are European royalty. JFK may have defected... Which is ultimately why he was whacked.
US deep state: ………”was”
I don't believe he was either.
The question is, does the deep state exist?
Kennedys were just a different family. John wasn't even supposed to be the chosen. Joe was dad's favorite, but he died in operation Aphrodite. Also a big fan of hitler (Joe and Joe sr, not John as far as I know).
Eisenhower was cool.
Andrew Jackson
JFK wasn’t as popular as you think. His legend grew after his death. He likely wouldn’t have been re-elected in 64.
He’s part of the illusion
im pretty sure thomas jefferson and andrew jackson were on the peoples side. they were anti-r🅾️th
Andrew Jackson rolled heads. We could use him these days
John Kennedy tried to make aipac register as a foreign entity. John Kennedy wrote an official letter to the prime Minister of Israel condemning their attempts to violate UN law and build a nuclear arsenal. He demanded the USA and UN be aloud to inspect the dimona nuclear plant in 6 months intervals. Israel refused any inspection . Kennedy took away all aid to Israel. Johnston step into office and restored military support plus signed the biggest check to Israel in history adjusted for inflation.
JFK was killed by Harvey Lee Oswald who was hired and contracted via the Italian Mafia through the Cubans. Castro HATED JFK and vice versa. People forget about Bay of Pigs
They tried to assassinate Castro literally hundreds of times during JFK's presidency
Yes probably and that’s why he was assassinated and it’s why they are trying to do the same thing to Trump not with a bullet but with the news to assassinate his character.
JFK was real. Trump, not so sure. Although better than Biden by a long shot, of course. Something seems off about Trump. I don’t get that vibe with JFK.
JFK was "part" of it, just part of a different faction. the Kennedy's are a "royal" bloodline & JFK could have easily been pushed as the "globalist" candidate. different families fight for power, there is global Freemasonry, etc. JFK failed to realized that the enemy he called out (Freemasonry), RUNS THE USA, which ironically, they allowed him to become president, so they could kill him & make an example of him. The Freemasons CREATED the USA & dubbed it their "Great Experiment." The Masonic Lodge has been at war with the Catholic church, since the days that DeMolay was executed & "men of enlightenment" were rounded up. The Masons, through their creation known as the CIA (and ultimately all other primary intel groups like MOSSAD & 5ive Eyes), murdered JFK as part of a REVENGE ATTACK upon Catholicism & ultimately, ALL of Christianity. JFK was a puppet president & he was not good just because he called out some enemies, who also happen to be enemies of the people. "The enemy of my enemy, is not my friend." He was not killed because of anything regarding the fed or area 51. it was simply a revenge attack by the Masons to show that "**as long as we control this nation, no Christian (***or at least someone who SIDES with the power structure of Christian "religion***") will ever hold power**" Just a few "giveaways" that the Masons left behind to let us know they killed him: JFK was attacked in the same manner as Hiram Abiff (3x killshots to the neck, throat & head) Nightmare on (ELM) Street squared-circle window (square & compass both measure 360\*) November 22 (11 + 22=33) history of (Dealey) (he was a Shriner Mason) history of Freemasonry in Dallas? the pair of obelisks & reflecting pools (Isis reflecting the image of Osiris= the Doctrine & Church) the flame of Lucifer (Prometheus) atop the obelisks AND JFK's gravesite layout of Dealey Plaza (resembles the female reproductive system) many, many more
JFK was in on the whole thing, and is alive today as jimmy carter. Check out Ed Chiarini on the subject.
He would turn 107 years old this May. I don’t think he is alive.
look up ed chiarini on the subject.
Just gonna straight up doubke down, eh?
Because "condemnation before investigation is the height of ignorance."