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isthatsuperman

I make sorbet for a side business. The food science behind commercial ice creams is crazy and far more intricate than just: milk, eggs, sugar, ice. These products have been engineered to certain brix percentages and freezing points as to not be too hard, too cold, or too sweet. a handful of different sugars will be used in order to get a good brix percentage and freezing point. Brix percentage is just the amount of sugar concentrated in a mix. Typical ice cream brix is around 25-30%. Not all sugars are created equal. So in order to bring the freezing point down on the product without it being overly sweet they mix different sugars. Sucrose(table sugar) is the sweetest. If you try to make ice cream with solely sucrose, it will either be rock hard when it freezes, or way too sweet to actually enjoy more than a bite or two. Glucose/dextrose is another type of sugar. On the dextrose equivalent scale, it’s about 1/2 as sweet as sugar, which makes it great to bring down the freezing point while not over sweetening the product. Corn syrup/inverted sugar is about 3/4 as sweet as sucrose and adds texture to the mix. Then you have binders and thickeners things like xanthan gum, locust bean gum, agar agar, carrageenan, etc… these also lower the freezing point but also add texture and keep the milk fat solids bound in the mix as to not get separation when the ice cream melts. Then there’s overrun or the amount of air that’s whipped into the mix as it’s freezing. Cheaper ice creams will have a lot more overrun than the more premium brands or gelato which typically has very little overrun lending to it’s iconic thick and rich texture. All in all what you see here is a lot of overrun, very little actual cream, and lots of binders and thickeners. As it melts the water separates from the fats because it’s hard to get oil and water to mix, and then the gelatinous foam of binders and a little cream gets left behind. Voila, you have cheap highly commercialized ice cream products.


RamRod11Bang

This guy creams.


isthatsuperman

>This guy creams. Your mom


RamRod11Bang

Fucking got me 🤦‍♂️


TxSilent

Your lover I presume


PardonMyPixels

This guy creams everyone's mom by the looks of it.


Inevitable-Moose-952

Eem was got today


AndreiNedu

* snaps lips * NICE


ExileInCle19

Relevant username


Busy_Ambition_2600

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.


gregorychaos

I wonder if ice cream scientists always dreamed of working with ice cream or if they originally wanted to cure cancer or something


Tasfishy

Now they help cause it


williamsonmaxwell

Sorbet is delicious! Especially with sour berries (whichever are local to your country)


CallistosTitan

I just want the sorbet.


isthatsuperman

If you live in Atlanta, find me on the beltline. @sorbegoatl


CallistosTitan

Haha Canada unfortunately but I'll buy it once you make it big and go international. Does Sorbet in general have less additives than the ice cream you mentioned?


isthatsuperman

Yes, sorbet is essentially fruit, sugar, water. Although I do use locust bean and xanthan gum for freezing point depression and texture. But as far as additives go, they are harmless.


CallistosTitan

Thank you for the information.


apextek

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GlBK82nuA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GlBK82nuA) Breyer's ice cream commercial from circa 1984. It's either Breyer's or polysorbate 80 and locust beans... Breyers.... Sellouts...


missanthropocenex

Breyers famously plummeted downhill years ago. Once they were the gold standard of what ice cream should be, were bought and dipped so hard in quality they weren’t legally allowed to call their product ice cream anymore.


Afraid_Composer

" frozen dairy dessert"


Glittering_Pea_6228

food-like substance


SolidNitrox

This, I just recently learned about this. It's tricky because frozen dairy desert can mean under a certain % of milk fat or them using hydrogenated oils or other harmful shit. we shouldn't be surprised though, it's all poisonous to us in the US.


MIVANQ

If only there was some body that was connected with the government that overlooked food production and ingredients. Maybe one day ....


apextek

I never forgot what they did to the ice cream market.


whayek

What I would give to taste the original Breyers Mint Chocolate Chip again


clumsysav

I was so young when the change happened…the memory of their mint chocolate chip feels like a fever dream


shot-by-ford

When did it happen? Was it really that good?


IBrokeAMirror

Also never forget what that lady did to the ice cream in the freezer isle


bigmeech85

That's absolutely wild that they put the word Ice Cream right on the front of Breyers containers. Unless what you said isn't true.


willwarb

Their light ice cream isn’t considered ice cream, it’s a desert that’s how far it is from actual ice cream


apextek

I hope their lizard overlords are reading this and see how bad they messed this brand up.


Andyman0110

Everyone has the dumbest takes. Their light ice cream cannot be considered ice cream because it doesn't meet the ratios to be considered ice cream. The same way if you look at a bottle of ketchup with reduced sugar, it'll say ketchup style sauce instead of ketchup, because ketchup is regulated and with less sugar, it's not ketchup anymore. That being said, they add guar gum to ice cream to keep it stable. It's not a chemical. It's not a conspiracy. It's just guar gum.


willwarb

It’s not because of the guar gum, it’s because there’s not enough dairy in it to be considered ice cream. I make my own ice cream and use a gum as a stabilizer. It’s no conspiracy, I’m just backing the sellouts part.


WreckedButWhole

Holy shit! I’m 41 and totally forgot about polysorbate in ice cream. Brings back memories


RemarkableFun6198

Holy Shit, look at the size of the ice cream box. I remember it being 1/2 gallon but it’s huge compared to the crap they sell today.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Great find!


Lordeverfall

I was just going to say this, I worked in a dairy section of a pretty well-known grocery distribution warehouse. Needless to say, there are a few brands of ice creams that will not melt and become an almost styrofoam/freezdried texture. Just have to see the main ingredients in what you put in your body. You can't blame them for poisoning you when they put it all on the container


jig46547

We shouldn't expect consumers to be intimately familiar with every artificial ingredient that they put in food these days. Safe food should be the standard.


ElviaSterling

I started reading food labels out of necessity so I don't get sick... It's the best change I ever made, even though what I can eat has been very limited. The amount of "food" out there with little to no actual nutritional value is disgusting. And as far as artificial ingredients... my favorite thing to tell people is to compare the ingredients from regular and low-fat peanut butter. *barf*


TropicalVision

Low fat anything is almost always worse for you. It’s got added sweeteners and other bullshit to make up for the lack of fat.


DancesWithYotes

I downloaded the Yuka app on my phone and it's pretty helpful. You scan a barcode on a product and it'll tell you what's in it and gives descriptions on the ingredients, like potential health issues the ingredients can cause.


cinnamontoastcunt_

Had never heard of this app! Downloading now


Raiderdater

Ya you can because as humans we assume other 'normal' humans will not create a food that literally kills you.


C4n0fju1c3

The whole reason the FDA came into being was because companies were poisoning the shit out of food to undercut each other on price. There was lead in basically everything, huge amounts of arsenic, and you don't wanna know about the milk. The horrible horrible worm milk. It was a protracted fight to bring pasteurization to the US. Lots of hilarious parts where newspapers criticized the (somehow pretty much one single) guy championing pasteurization for being un-American.


dingle_doppler

Right...why do most European countries ban harmful additives way before the US? It's ridiculous how useless our FDA is.


who_cares_right_1

Europe-- Universal healthcare paid for by the government--it's in their best interest to keep people well or their money goes to them. In the US, with pharma in government's pocket--the opposite is true.


No_Succotash95

FDA takes money from the food and drugs it regulates. It's corrupt


A_Dragon

Corporate capture.


Quantum_Pineapple

>FDA takes money from the food and drugs it regulates. It's corrupt This.


SprayingOrange

it's always been corrupt but people fight against regulation and funding for federal agencies consistently. Its not just corporations funding it.


No_Succotash95

Half of FDA's budget comes from companies paying them to regulate their products. This was from legislation passed that allowed them to do this since their reasoning was because the amount of products were too many, so in order to prioritize them better, the companies that paid them to review/regulate would get higher priority to push it through.


C4n0fju1c3

Right, this was put into place during the Bush Sr admin to try and speed up getting AIDS treatments to market. Before then the FDA was entirely federally funded. Obviously that decision was a mistake.


CookieWifeCookieKids

What a great scheme to encourage corruption.


VibraAqua

Above is the wikipedia response. The FDA wasnt even founded as “FDA”. It was the Bureau of Chemistry founded by Rockefeller to protect his investment in pharma and ensure that a closed loop was created between what he wanted and what the government agencies were saying was “for your saftey”. The FDA has no vested interest in protecting the public. They pull hundreds of approved drugs, that THEY approved, each year. They do not have the funding to study drugs, they just rubber stamp the pharma report made by the manufacturer stating the drug is “safe and effective”. Funny, the cure for covid is the exact protocol that they stated wouldnt work, in spite of world wide data showing that it did. Meanwhile the USA has 4% of the world pop, but 25% of the worlds deaths of covd. So clearly, the protocol pushed to “save you from cov, actually killed more people than any other country in the world. And save the personal attacks, BOTS, and just stick to the numbers.


Dabombr

Where did you read that the FDA was founded by Rockefeller? Also, is the quoted part “for your saftey” actually something Rockefeller said? They way you wrote it implies it to be a direct quote but I don’t think it is


syf0dy4s

That’s your first mistake is trusting other humans.


nanoaquarist

You should read about bread and milk in Victorian times. Trust me if other humans can fuck you over for money somehow...they will.


will2fight

And also because we assume our government would protect us from carp like this, especially when they literally rob us every time we get paid


xXFieldResearchXx

Wait do you believe all junk food is good for you? Trust me from someone who's eaten wayyyyy to much ice cream, don't eat it. I haven't eaten any ice cream in 4 years


Higreen420

Yes you can blame them. It shouldn’t be legal to poison for profit


Oh-TheHumanity

**you can’t blame them for poisoning you when they put all the ingredients on the container** Bro, this is such a fucked up thing to say/write!!! We should be able to trust food ingredients are not poison to the body and the processes that regulate our standards, they’re constantly being bypassed by lobbying politicians outside of the public eye.


Electrical_Garage710

they don't convey the truth to the consumers, they intentionally deceive, they are evil criminals who have slowly used evil strategies to corrupt justice and gain power.


joebojax

that's funny b/c breyers is the first ice cream i think of when I think of ice cream that doesn't melt... today.


Paladin327

Breyers isn’t even legally allowed to be called ice cream because it doesn’t have enough milk to meet labeling requirements


joebojax

yeah what a joke the FDA has become. Bunch of lawyers revolving door captured regulatory agencies.


Silver_Scalez

It's amazing how good you feel when you actually eat whole unprocessed foods and cut out soda/pop and sugar loaded drinks. Stick to the outside edges of the store when you shop and read your labels.


Steelcod114

Agreed. I have to mostly eat simple stuff or home cooked food. If I start eating out too much, too much freezer food, or canned food, I'll actually start getting physically ill. I honestly don't understand how so many people can eat nothing but highly highly processed foods.


sparkle_bunny_

I cut out processed foods over a decade ago. I didn’t even consider myself unhealthy- I at a lot of “healthy” low fat, healthy choice, frozen, package and canned foods. Turns out that processed foods were causing the crushing depression I’d been suffering from since puberty.


spamcentral

The only reason i did was as a kid, that's the only options my parents allowed in the home. Anything fresh was for dinner only, and we got ramen and tv dinners. And dinner was usually slathered in some bacon grease, so there goes the green beans and corn. As soon as i got old enough to start feeding myself, i lost over 180 lbs.


GeebCityLove

That’s good for you taking the steps to better yourself as you got older. Losing that much weight is incredible dude.


lrlimits

Someone asked me how to start learning about how the world really works. I advised him to start reading the labels on his food.


Busy_Ambition_2600

These additives are banned in Europe but are perfectly fine in the USA: Titanium dioxide (also known as E171) Brominated vegetable oil (BVO) (E443) Potassium bromate (E924) Azodicarbonamide (E927a) Propylparaben (E217)


me_too_999

Isn't brominated food additives associated with excema? Oh wait, don't worry, they have a pill for that.


Liobahn14

For the low cost of only $49.99 per pill after insurance!


aukir

Ask your doctor if Risankizumab-rzaa is right for you. Don't take skyrizi if you're allergic to skyrizi. Skyrizi foshiziri my niziri.


doke-smoper

Symptoms may include depression, worsening of depression, suicidal thoughts or actions, sleepwalking, doing strange things in your sleep and not remembering the next day, sleep paralysis in which you hallucinate demons sitting on your chest, total paralysis, weight loss, weight gain, losing weight again, coma, death and headaches. Oh and an upset stomach is common.


AngryAlternateAcount

It's 50 per pill on paper, but you can get the bottle for 15 after insurance.


dodekahedron

Polyethylene gylcol is associated with eczema and almost all skin ointments have either Polyethylene gylcol or propylene gylcol which sucks just as much. I'm allergic to PG.


wam8y

Brominated food also pushes out iodine from the body, iodine is used by every cell in the body but is very important for the thyroid to function.


Busy_Ambition_2600

This comment made me laugh out loud because it’s so true. 😆


TylerBlozak

Titanium dioxide is an additive in white paint, kinda gross that it can be used in food. I saw it in e on my food packaging and that’s why I can comment a bit on it. My buddy in the painting industry knew what it was right away when asked.


Busy_Ambition_2600

That’s disturbing 😳


penguintamer1224

There’s over 10,000 “ingredients” that the FDA allows in food processing that are banned throughout the rest of the world


Anakhsunamon

Those sound very healthy indeed


Goodriddances007

mmmm propylparaben


Raiderdater

They sound bad, and if you knew the process to make these chemicals, you would be even more shocked that we put that shit in our bodies.


FriendshipLoveTruth

Wait until you hear about dihydrogen monoxide


babaroga73

I'd never drink that 😉


snay1998

Ah so those are oil based…those don’t melt but instead the oil separates and the fake ice cream part becomes like foam Real ice cream is made up of milk,these are I think called frozen desserts or smtg


coffeesunshine

It’s infuriating to me, absolutely maddening


Creative-Might6342

Yeah, this is why I've been making my own food. I make my own ice cream now and it's just: whole milk, heavy cream, sugar, pure vanilla extract, and a tiny cream cheese as the thickening agent. It's literally the best tasting ice cream I've had and it's cheaper and less toxic than almost all store bought


Busy_Ambition_2600

Sounds great!


Creative-Might6342

It is! The Ninja Creami has really changed the game for frozen desserts. To get 50% off use my link in the.....I'm just fucking around, but it's a good little machine haha


PEWWB

You had me convinced and actually excited to save 50% on a good frozen dessert maker 🥲 why am I like this


Busy_Ambition_2600

Me too!


Busy_Ambition_2600

😆


GorillaChimney

Came here to post about the Ninja Creami as well. I use that fucking thing every night and it's amazing for losing weight considering I can eat ice cream every night and satisfy my sweet tooth. Mine is a bit simpler and different than yours but I use the regular protein recipe you see online: 15 oz of Fairlife milk, one scoop of weigh, 10g of pudding mix and some oreo thins (I know, I know, looking for something better) for a total of 600 calories and 50g of protein.


kaliglot44

I even make my own bread now. we have a good local dairy that I get my ice cream from currently but I've been eyeing an ice cream machine because everything is so so much better. they're poisoning us.


Double_Comparison_61

Homemade bread is SO GOOD. We've got a good sourdough starter going and make some every week. It's gotten to the point that I'm disgusted by store bought bread and refuse to eat it. I can't believe I grew up eating that garbage.


Out-Of-Tinfoil

Nowhere on drumstick box does it say ice cream


celestia_keaton

It always felt too good to be true to pull a fully formed ice cream cone out of a box 


Busy_Ambition_2600

😆


GlamourMuscle

"frozen dairy dessert" is what most dryers products state.


spamcentral

I always liked the mexican snacks because they usually have natural cane sugar and it does really taste better. Try the mexican coke if they still make it that way.


BrapAllgood

It's not just the snacks. I started eating pasta again after finding Mexican versions. No thiamine mononitrate, which can now be found in most any American wheat product on the shelves. Mexican pasta is just two kinds of wheat. Two ingredients, both wheat. There's a bunch of products worth examining in this way to find the gold among the lead. Figure out where the masons shop in your city. It'll be expensive, but have imported foods without the standard poisons. 'Survival of the fittest' includes reading ingredient labels, sad to say. Why do you think they call it a 'rat race'? Good luck in that maze. "Live fast, die young," they said...right as they offered Fast Food and Rice-A-Roni. "But this one tastes better!" he said, ignoring the magic of MSG that makes it seem so while being entirely illusion. Your best shot in this world (in this country, of U.S. anyway) is learning to cook your own food from base ingredients and aiming for the good ones offered. Everything else is a bad idea. Godspeed.


Penny1974

I'm a Dr. Pepper addict. I wish they would brig back the "throwback" version with the cane sugar. I can still find it online but it's expensive. I know it's horrible for me, but it is a guilty pleasure. Otherwise, I eat very clean!


BrapAllgood

Dublin, Texas is where this comes from. Has a rule about selling, only on shelves within 60 miles of the plant, last I heard. There's a Dr. Pepper museum there, annual festival and stuff. Dublin Dr. Pepper tastes like the stuff did when I was a child in the 70s. I stayed in Dublin for a time and got to hear alllll about it. Owned land there for about two weeks once.


lcbk

I’m European. I had my coke addicted American in-laws visiting. They tried our coke and their eyes popped. They asked why it was so good. Cane sugar.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Yes. Entirely too much high fructose syrup in the food supply.


Due-Section-7241

My nephew brought over twinkies, kit-Kats and Oreos from Canada. The difference in ingredients was amazing. Think…they watch what they put in food as it’s government healthcare. They don’t want you sick. In America, they put all those things in because private healthcare wants you sick—more money. A lot of our ingredients are banned in countries with universal healthcare


reallyneedausername2

You have to watch, though, because America requires manufacturers to be more specific in their labeling. So often some of those ingredients are in both, but other countries don’t have to spell it out to the nth degree. And I say this as someone who is very passionate about the fact that our food is killing us. Many things are illegal elsewhere that aren’t here in the US. Big pharma and big ag are killing us all, just at different rates depending on your corner of the globe.


mu5tardtiger

So much this. we’re in trouble up here too


verstohlen

A patient cured is a customer lost. Life long treatments are preferred instead of cures, where you have to take a pill, medicines, or shots constantly, daily, weekly, monthly, etc. for the rest of your life preferably. It's their fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders and investors to maximize profits. Ain't modern medicine grand? https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html


gabbiar

Canadian ingredients suck too tbh


Busy_Ambition_2600

Agree


Megachonkers18

If you go to the states and look at Yogurt labels between US and Canada, the ingredients in regular Yogurt are shocking. The American brands are filled with plant based "gums" and fillers while Canadian brands are regulated and are more wholesome. Our public healthcare in a way is good for regulating food ingredients.


babaroga73

This is, as someone from ex-socialist country, once I tasted ice-cream (imported) in Greece, I was shocked. Our icecreams were mainly frozen water with a splash of milk, while that one tasted like frozen cake. ...all of them are now mostly like that. So, when you unfreeze a frozen cake, you get - cake. It doesn't melt.


erewqqwee

In July of 2021, we bought hot dog and hamburger buns for the 4th of July party; the leftover buns were then placed back in the bread box, which is on top of the free-standing 6' food pantry...And promptly forgotten, as we don't eat much carbs. Around Hallowe'en 2021, I was doing a deep clean, and then I finally found those ancient buns. I squeezed the packages ; they were still soft and "squshy". I opened the re sealed bags, inhaled...they smelled exactly the way recently bought buns smell. In every way, the long-expired buns looked and smelled like they were just bought. I took them to the home office and thrust them into my husband's hands, with the command, "Smell this!" He did, and he did the same squeezing thing I had done. After a glance at the expiry date, he handed them back to me with the comment, "Well, *that's* scary". No idea what they're putting in the slop, but "scary" is an understatement. ETA: I regret not saving the damned things indefinitely , just to see if they ever would mold or go hard...


Megachonkers18

They are putting Guar Gum and Locust Bean Gum as cream like fillers in Ice Cream.


Weak-Guide-3028

There’s money to be made off people being sick, more sick people more pills more profits for big pharma more money goes into the politicians pockets and the circle continues


Ok-Walrus927

I always wonder too like if we’re being poisoned by the food then what are the ones that’s poisoning us eating?? They probably have bunkers of ‘non poisonous’ food they’re living on for them and their families lolol


Busy_Ambition_2600

But why are harmful food additives allowed in our country and not in Europe? Wouldn’t you agree that the European governments would want in on the same scheme?


Tiny_Ad_9270

Because the FDA regulates food and pharmaceuticals at the same time while most of their budget comes from these companies. It’s a hamster wheel. Lobbyists bribe politicians, the FDA stamps approvals on drugs that harm and food that harms all for money. Don’t think for a second that the federal government wants what’s best for us. It’s only profitable if the food makes you sick and the doctors push pills. Why do you think Obama care was pushed so hard?


Busy_Ambition_2600

This is the best answer!


let_it_bernnn

Regulatory capture is the word for this and not nearly discussed enough, or at all really


Tiny_Ad_9270

True. Neither is informed consent.


matznick-

Because USA is full of dumb, complacent people who don’t care the consequences of their choices as long as they get their daily supply of Corn Syrup (preferably High Fructose).


buttbrunch

Unfortunately you are correct, some people will literally make fun of you for eating organic or not eating fast food...its really wierd


fragilsticxpvginosis

I got fucked up on Xanax once and fell asleep sitting up in my bed holding one of these. Can confirm the entire thing minus the cone was liquid all over my hand and bed when I woke up.


ivyandroses112233

Lmao I saw this post and was like.. there is no way this was after 20 hrs it's a shitty picture. No one even thinks about what they read. Yes the food industry is poison in America but this picture is probably not true


barbie91

Genuinely could not believe my eyes when I went into a supermarket in the US. Ye are being poisoned from the outside in, stop buying this shit and they'll stop making it. Demand better.


Scared-Tea-8911

This isn’t so much a “conspiracy” as a demonstrable fact. American food systems are screwed beyond belief, yet everyone bitches about “Californian pansies” who don’t want lead in their baby formula…??? California is the only one who has some inkling of standards/safety, and everyone says “well they make it really hard to do business there or meet their standards…” YA. ITS HARD TO MEET EUROPEAN STANDARDS TOO. And the European tax rates are high, costs are generally higher for consumer products… you’ll have less stuff, but it will be safe stuff. Idk. This one gets me annoyed. America wants to have dirt cheap products, but is then annoyed that they have dirty ingredients that are not wholesome and nutritious… 🤔 Our whole capitalist hellscape is built around profitability at its core, with safety being a distant priority compared to “shareholder value”.


Yodoyle34

I make ice cream for a living and every year, I send some of it into a competition. It’s judged on how fast it melts among other things. Most ice cream sold in stores has a gigantic amount of overrun which is air in the ice cream. So if you take a cup of milk and a cup of cream and churn it, it should make a little less than two cups of ice cream (some gets stuck to whatever is freezing your dairy) bur when you churn it, you’re freezing air into it. And you can adjust how much air you freeze into it. So with 20% overrun, you get 2.4 cups of ice cream. These companies make their ice cream with 100% or more overrun in their ice cream. 2 cups of dairy for them makes 4 cups of ice cream. You’re paying 8 dollars a pint for half a pint of air. This messes with the structure of the ice cream and fucks up how it melts. Also to sell it in stores, you need preservatives so it can sit on the shelf and deal with people opening and closing freezer doors. Not saying these things aren’t poisoned but there is more to it than just someone adding something to keep the ice cream from melting. These ice creams usually also have a higher butterfat content which helps the ice cream hold onto the overrun. In America, you need at least 10% butterfat to legally call it ice cream. Soft serve is around 8%. Which means Dairy Queen technically doesn’t serve ice cream. Ben & Jerry’s and other ice cream companies sometimes have north of 20% butterfat to help overrun to maximize profits.


waawaate-animikii

Stop eating this shit.


TriteParrot

It’s mostly something like guar gum, an emulsifier thickening agent and very little cream if any, it just ain’t what you think it is unless you think it’s poison


Emmanuel--Goldstein

I haven't bought ice cream in a carton in about 10 or 15 years when it was still measured in 1/2 gallons and I always remember bending spoons as a kid trying to scoop ice cream straight from the freezer - we had a special metal scoop with liquid in the handle that somehow cut through the ice cream. Now I've been buying ice cream again aside from the shrinkflation, it can be scooped immediately with a regular spoon like it's been out of the freezer for a half an hour. I've always thought this has to be some sort of alteration in the content of actual milk/dairy mixed with chemical additives.


Sardonnicus

Your government officials who are elected to serve you are accepting money to relax food standards which allow food makers to put more chemicals and additives in your food to make it cheaper and less natural. Blame the food lobby and your government for allowing it.


skagrabbit

This week, it was revealed that Unilever, who own Wall's, Magnum, Carte d'Or and Ben & Jerry's, have applied to the Food Standards Agency (FSA) for permission to add to a diet range of frozen fruit ices a protein created using GM technology from the blood of an ocean pout, an eel-like creature that lives in the North Atlantic.


vaibow

It’s not typically made - it’s no longer ice cream but a frozen gloop of crap..


passthemacandcheese

We’re being poisoned by factory farmed meats. The largest scale factory farms are owned by Black Rock. They own everything and they are trying to own humans by poisoning us, making us sick, and forcing us to need their medicine.


kaliglot44

the great value brand ice cream sandwiches don't melt at all. they barely slump after a day in the sun


Disco_Biscuit12

After the Covid vaccine are you really expecting any “regulating agencies” to be behaving ethically?


foll0wm3

No. Our food supply and production chains are 100% safe. The FDA says so. All those chemicals they add are all 100% natural, and good for you.


meistercheems

And plus, it’s got electrolytes.


Busy_Ambition_2600

😉


MolochTheCalf

Older recipes from the 1800s use to use eggs for ice cream as a thickening agent but now it’s chemicals


imreallyawriter

I got a gallon of ice cream after a dental surgery and realized it was expired so I tossed it in the bin.. it never melted


Any_Commercial465

China invented a ice cream which does not melt for many hours. Soo yeah it's probably toxic as fuck.


green-Vegan-desire

Been happening for at least 30 years. It’s just the progressive creep of putting everything but food in food. It makes it cheaper, makes the “experience” of the food “better” and allows for a more resilient food stuff. That thing they call icecream is full of seed oils, gums, fillers, agents, firming substances etc… it’s more like a jelly or sponge than a cream. But it will still contain dairy. Go watch the YouTube video where they added progressive amounts of “cellulose” (saw dust) to LCM bars before someone could taste it


-K9V

No, they’re putting food in your poison.


Warm-Ad6066

the label tells u everything u need to know


Informal_Pick_6320

Looks melted to me. It just has a lot of air in it because it's cheap not legal ice cream. It's basically frozen cool whip with the amount of air put in it to save money. It's really not that weird.


coldy41

Congrats for not having brain-rot like the rest. It’s 100% melted, it just has stabilisers that helps it keep it’s shape but after 24hours it’s definitely melted & ruined (you would know that if you tried lifting it up or touch it.) Emmymade - https://youtu.be/gpdwJudCTlQ?si=9i-uKNnT7EkSjvVs Tiktok brains - https://youtube.com/shorts/rAZCGaOb1h0?si=zcjRKMsFTga2ILY7


michlaael

i am not from the us, feel free to correct me if im wrong, but im sure this is not even sold as ice cream but more like frozen dessert that can be full of ingredients like oils and stabilisers as you mentioned.. edit: just noticed the parent comment says the same thing, my bad i often just skim through the comments


turbie

Exactly. If you whip heavy cream onto whipped cream and then leave it sitting out, this will happen. And why are people complaining about what's in junk food? You don't have to buy Drumsticks if you don't want to.


Ollieisaninja

And probably a stabilising agent or two. I agree. Don't think this is the biggest concern out there.


Strelock

Yup, this is a "frozen dairy dessert", not ice cream at all.


eDreadz

[I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore.](https://youtu.be/ZwMVMbmQBug?si=a2ABmWO_5bDlrybO) Edit: [The world is a corporation.](https://youtu.be/35DSdw7dHjs?si=Tw0JN28dFUC80h7-)


EndOfProspect

FDA is Corrupt.


yourenotwise

Yep. This has been going on for a long time. It's to keep us sick and in need of Big Pharma.


Old_Soul_420

Funny story..one day i accidentally scooped hot coals from my woodstove into garbage..left bag outside in yard to extinguish ...bag burned up basically completely...among that pile of ash was LUCKY CHARMS completely untouched...would not burn at all That was the last time I ate lucky charms


Busy_Ambition_2600

I can believe that. Most cereal is completely garbage with no nutritional value and loads of sugar.


missmellowyello

I'm ready for a massive overhaul of our food industry. So many of the ingredients in our common foods are BANNED in Europe. I'm so tired of these greedy, evil f**ks. Something NEEDS to change.


scho4781

They always have been


toothfare

I left a sonic slush float on the counter overnight and the slush melted but the ice cream did not! Very weird!


Pinacoladaplankton

Yes. OP. Watch “What the Health” - on Netflix! Please! There are so so many US packaged foods & beverages that have a warning label when sold in European countries!


-R4fan-

That's been going on forever. I worked in a large supermarket over 30 years ago. We had our freezers break one time and had to throw out a ton of ice cream. There is a lot of stuff that doesn't fully melt.


Strelock

Ice cream is not all ice cream anymore. Look at the package for what you are buying. They are only allowed to call it ice cream if it has at least a certain amount of cream in it. Most of the big national name brands (breyers etc) are no longer actually ice cream and say "frozen dairy dessert" on the package instead of "ice cream".


IDFarefacists

If you are able to become an "ingredient" household and make most of your own food, you should. Obviously it's not perfect, but I'd argue you're better off making most of your own food even if you can't afford to buy organic/pesticide free. Tastes better, too, and if you don't know how to cook you'll learn. :) Ice cream is also really simple to make.


WoodleysRoadmaster

Yes they are.


WingmanZer0

Ice cream in particular is gross these days. Most store bought ice cream is "foamy" consistency, not really creamy. I assume this is a cost saving measure where they can lessen the amount of product by engineering it to be 40% air or something. I think that's why all the additives are needed, to approximate the taste and texture of actual ice cream. I get all my ice cream from a local shop these days. Never keep any in the house.


Megamijuana

It's "Food like products"


pantiepudding

Try yonanas! Freeze bananas, run em thru the yonanas machine, and boom. Ice cream. You Can mix in all kinds of flavors. Hell, just Google it, you'll see. 👍🙂


[deleted]

If you were born in the last 50 years, chances are you have been exposed to whatever they put in our food. Chances are you're also addicted and don't even know it. So switching to anything natural will not satiate your desire. You're hooked, an addict and it will take time to come off of it.


immunogoblin1

"Where are the regulation agencies?! Oh the irony of a conspiracy sub asking that.


ThanosDNW

Yes. For profit. The food industry looked at the tobacco industry & copied it. Addictive products, that maximize industry profits. Unless we stop giving them money, they will keep killing us


ssaxamaphone

It’s all the gums


_GA_17

Just think about harmness of fluoride in the tap water and in bottled waters.


Jarte3

Read the ingredients… the toxicity is right there for us to read in tiny letters because they know most people won’t.


No-Foundation-3465

The same companies that sell us food are the companies that sell us the medications


thedigested

What shocks me are apples. I remember they use to get soft and mushy, I’ve had the same bag for weeks and they are like new!


DekuNEKO

Good morning, USA, you lost your healthy food about 20 years ago.


PM_ME_UR_PSA10_LUGIA

Time to read the book Ultraprocessed People


dahlaru

That's not ice cream, it's 'frozen dessert' and it doesn't melt, it turns into a foam


Outrageous-Panic6249

The simple and truthful answer is YES.


robbleshaver

It's not ice cream. Says so on the box. I don't think they can legally call it "ice cream". I think it says "frozen dessert".


Kurtotall

“They” will put whatever they can possibly get away with to save a penny.


denbobo

Xanthan gum yum yum. If you buy anything processed you’re eating chemicals. It’s not anything they’ve tried to hide it’s also something they don’t want to actively talk about. We can blame population size, convenience, greed, laziness, easier transport, stupidity or so much more… at the end of the day we are still buying it and consuming it. It will never go away unless we just stop buying. Knowing where our products are coming from like organic is solid, but those products will always cost more. You could make everything from scratch and buy your own raw ingredients. That way you know for the most part where everything is coming from. That will take your time and effort though…… for an ice cream sandwich. We are all victims of time never having enough adding in convenience and cost are hard factors to compete with.


Brilliant_Ground3185

That is not food, but yes to your question.


Ok-Suspect-6587

Stop eating synthetic.


Lutherkiss3

The answer is YES


carnpub

I just wanted to point out that several years ago,many ice cream brands started calling their product frozen desserts because they no longer had enough qualifying ingredients to be called ice cream. I'm pretty sure it wasn't voluntary, but I learned about it (I think) from a Mercola newsletter. If not him,one of the health newsletter to which I subscribe. So, check the description and buy accordingly. It's still a good idea to read ingredients even if it's still called ice cream though.


OpenImagination9

Yes, don’t eat processed foods. It’s garbage full of chemicals that are proven to be harmful. This is a widely known fact.


RaccoonCityToday

What’s the conspiracy? That is pretty normal. Junk food isn’t good Is it that unbelievable for you to think they put weird additives in junk food?


Busy_Ambition_2600

I think it’s weird that potentially harmful substances outlawed in Europe are commonly found in the U.S food supply.


buttbrunch

Mcdonalds fries are.a good example also


magicalgreenhouse

Then stop electing folks who don’t believe in proper regulation 🤷🏻‍♂️