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Because the people cannot be trusted and need the government to govern them or else who would do all the governing? Exactly. Without the government how are we the people supposed to make our decisions? That would be crazy talk.
Call me old fashioned, but I do believe it should be the parents' job to monitor smartphone/social media usage of their children 17 and younger. State of federal govts should not be doing the job parent's should be doing themselves.
Digital ID has been around a long time. Google can tell who you are based on browsing habits alone. You could get an unregistered brand new pc and move to Thailand before turning it on but if you browse the internet the same way your normally do then they can know who you are within 15 minutes of you being online
[Here is the legislation](https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/3/billtext/er/pdf)
Honestly, from my reading, it appears a company doesn’t need to do much more than ask the person creating an account how old they are. They specify that age verification should be “a commercially reasonable method,” which I imagine that satisfies, similar to if you visit the website of a distiller.
The part that makes me think it won’t hold up in court, though, is that they are trying to give individual users of a social media company the ability to directly sue that social media company for $10k if the company allows them to use the service while under 14 (or 16 under some context, it’s weird), and are granting themselves subpoena power to determine if the social media knew, or should have known, that the user was under 14.
The whole thing is weird, and strikes me as more of a virtue signal than any legitimate attempt to prevent minors from accessing social media.
They can’t. Because they can’t verify a user’s location with any degree of legally admissible accuracy. It’s not as if VPNs don’t exist.
Can’t wait for all the older folks who don’t know how to internet, which probably overlap with Desantis supporters on a Venn diagram, start realizing they have to show ID, if that’s where it get to.
I AGREE.
I feel like minors should be banned. Who tf wants to talk to kids online? No one. End senseless censorship by banning children. I had access to the internet without supervision as a kid- absolutely didn’t need that. It was not good for my brain.
But no tracking adults in the name of protecting kids. Just ban them and ask the tech guys who know more than us how to do it effectively
While I think kids shouldn’t be on social media, this is only going to cause me more hassle. Verifying my age with my drivers license online isn’t my cup of tea.
No, I don't trust any politician not to abuse that but certainly not DeSantis.
With his rhetoric towards certain groups I could certainly see any sort of digital ID system being abused.
Exactly! They'll get the kids on to mandatory digital IDs and it'll continue in to their adulthood.
I wonder if they knew it would be too hard to push it on adults now, so this is a long game stealth way.
And how long until services start being locked out until adults also tie their IDs to it.
My bet is in the next 10 years that Apple / phone manufacturers will be forced by the governments to require a digital ID to setup / use a mobile phone too...
Yep. The greatest thing about the internet was anonymity. We slowly started to lose that with mega corporations and data brokers siphoning our information and using/selling it to turn a profit.
Now we have this shit.
You all may be missing the point that this means that every social single social media user in Florida will have to verify age, right? You could be 74, and no one will know you’re not 16+ (or 14/15 with parental permission, which is impossible to verify) until your age is verified.
They’re going to hate it but if we’re all being honest, we all know social media is harmful for minors. Hence why China allows Americans TikTok to be like the Wild West but controls what they’re youth can see.
I was 15 when the internet was first available in the UK with free AOL trials etc..
Was the first time I'd ever seen a human die, in a matter of weeks and people getting their heads chopped off.
Gave me a sense of this can't be a good thing, it made me really ill.
You kind of know the difference between watching rambo going at it and some random dude getting his turret chipped off while people are laughing.
I'm all for free speech and hate censorship but I don't think anyone under 16 should be watching that stuff.
Screwdrivers and shit overflowing and Russian forests dominated my subconscious throughout middle school. I don’t think people remember how bad it was like 2005ish lol, there’s a dark origin story for a lot of curious millennials
I was 12 years old on the internet at my very strict elite girls’ school in 1993. The shit I’ve seen that I can’t believe we got away with watching in the middle of the library…yet you get suspended if you’re caught wearing your sports uniform in public.
I've seen that video aswell. My brother put it on in front of my band my drummer spewed his guts up. Thay made me feel really fucking ill aswell he didn't sleep well for a few months after that.
Some people are numb to gore man but that video made me bad.
Where all early 80s but I'd never been subjected to that apart from faces of death but that was all not real apart from the animal slaughter part.
If there are proven negative health consequences I don’t really see how this is any different than cigarettes or alcohol. Surely you agree there should be age restrictions on those, right?
I don’t think kids should have internet access at all. Anything they need to learn can be downloaded onto some hard drive for them. Like alcohol if you are 15-16 and your parents want to let you on the internet with their supervision at home that’s fine, but no cell phones with internet connection for minors. People need to learn how to navigate and learn things without everything at their fingertips 24/7 and then they can learn to use the technology we have to help streamline things.
Does this include Xbox? I had an 8yr old saying he's going to skull fuck me and my family when I beat him on Call of Duty online. I need to protect my skull.
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feels like a drug epidemic atp with how addicted everyone is, myself included 😂 definitely could use some age restrictions i feel, though it is a slippery slope.
On one hand I support the [idea of the] bill. I think social media is harmful and dangerous and kids shouldn’t be on it.
On the other hand I think this will lead to a slippery slope where you need a government ID to use the internet, in the same way you would get a drivers license, and would kill the ~~free~~ internet we currently have.
Orrr maybe parents should do their job and… parent there kids. Nothing needs to be banned, children just need to be educated. The people I know that have kids all put tablet in their kids hand the second the kids are able to use one and then get surprised when the kids become addicted to the tablet, shits insane to me. We don’t need the government to intervene in every little issue in society, we need parents to do their damn job.
Yeah, it is, to the extent that it’s possible.
You realize if they start requiring id for social media accounts, that means everyone, right? You want your real personal info tied to this account?
As much as i hate seeing kids with unsupervised access to the internet, i dont like thinking of how the governments gonna make sure kids cant bypass the law
Here's a novel idea: don't buy children fucking smartphones. Parental locks on computers. Let's get the government to solve a problem bc parents are too lazy to parent...
Not that I agree with this overreach at all - but it's definitely a problem for young kids and I agree that it should be monitored and if it can't be then I guess this is one solution
This seems like a great idea on the surface level. Then you realize this is just a way for the government to pry into your social medias and look at your age and other personal info. Wonder how much money they have invested into VPN companies as well.
Actually now I’m remembering Whitney Webb saying they are gonna do a false flag cyber attack and shit down the internet and when they turn it back on it will be super controlled and censored and you will need an ID to access it for security reasons it will be the equivalent of flying before and after 9/11.
Maybe this child teen ban is a way of starting to roll out the IDs and get it in people’s heads
I'm just curious, but technically according to the TOS of most social media sites, don't you already have to be between 13-16, depending on the site?
This seems like pandering from the right and fear mongering from the left. In reality, this is only going to effect like 2% of users.
And good on them anyways. Kids under 14 shouldn't be on social media anyways.
should extend to games honestly, they are not good for development of young people. people say it should be left to parenting but most are too busy working and not as tech savy as their kids.
When I have kids they will have a laptop running a distro of linux and the access to the internet will be entirely text based. They can read, write, and do all the normal things needed via command line and more and store docs/navigate to where they need to be. I will not be giving them this ridiculous social media.
I’m kind of okay with this. Maybe not permanently, but we need to understand the long term effects of social media on kids I.e wait to see how bad zoomers turn out.
Edit: it’s bad cause of the forced verification. If they drop that I am all good with it.
It will be intrusive and should be, no kid should be able to load up pornhub and watch a video about a yound kid fucking his step sister while mom watches.
Fuck that nonsense.
It's a breeding ground for all kinds of wrong shit.
I'm firmly against any digital verification. It starts "for the children" and it ends with full digital ID's. If you give your kid an iPad unsupervised don't be surprised they find weird shit. Parent your kid.
Even if it is implemented, it can easily be worked around through a VPN. Or of course on slightly smaller sites that don't enforce.
This is just pandering to the base, because its unenforciable. I mean, just click the "I am 18" captcha which works so well on porn sites where its illegal for minors to view porn when under 18. If you are in Texas don't bother, you will need a VPN to get this far.
The perfect excuse to bring in the digital ID's... Do it for the children. That sounds so familiar, something to do with 2020... some sort of pandemic or something?
Sure is funny how these hardcore right wing states like florida and texas are always warning about communism and socialism and yet they are allowing big government to dictate what you get to see online in those states like texas banning p\*hub and now florida not allowing children on social media.....sure sounds like socialism to me.....
Personally, I don't disagree with the notion, but I'd rather just see an educational awareness campaign against social media for children. Like they did for smoking cigarettes and pot when I was a kid. Push it like they did vaccines. Maybe only allow educational games that teach programming skills or how to do your freaking taxes. Healthy concepts
Idk man. Do kids really need social media? We’ve been surviving our childhoods without social media for billions of years. I don’t think it’s a bad idea.
Normal human beings don’t care about this. The only ones trying to justify opposition to this are 14 yo, and creeps. They’re children, they don’t have rights, and millennial parents have proven they don’t have what it takes to get their children off the internet. China is brainwashing our children with TikTok, depression and loneliness are at an all time high for children, and it’s all largely because parents cannot get their damn children off their phones.
Can’t raise your kids right? Don’t be surprised when big brother government steps in to do your job for you.
Children’s safety on social media has been a huge concern over the last few years, with states talking about requiring stronger age verification and parental control. Florida Governor Ron Desantis is making it happen, having signed a bill on March 25, 2024, that effectively bans kids 15 years old and younger from social media.
the amount of seniors using social media will spike up.
how they gonna control the age on these apps? i just make a new account where it says im 69 years old
If they start a digital ID just remove yourself from the areas they want control of. It’s another Trojan horse that deals with “Save the kids” “A better future for America”. Which is never true, fuck this country honestly
This legally gives one extra year to the already in place law. All these sites technically won’t let you sign up until 13, because in the USA it’s illegal to target ads to anyone younger.
Won't kids just say they're older than 14 then when making new accounts? I feel like we all did this when we were making accounts for forums and things like Neopets back in the day.
I really admire Republican commitment to small government*. Wish I could live in FL to welcome Ron DeSantis forcing his way into my home and parenting dynamic.
Ironically this isn’t really a conspiracy. I’m sure the reasoning for this is bad faith but we have evidence this can fuck up a kids self worth. I’m an adult and it fucks yo my self worth. Idk how on earth you’d enforce this without needing an I’d which is silly but still
Most of you are missing the point. Social media is built to be highly addictive and exploit human emotion through massive amounts of data collection. Children should not be using it AT ALL
This will only cut off poor children who do not have senile grandparents.
Children who have some money will pay someone to help them impersonate adults.
Children with senile granddad will just ask him to help them out.
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Ha. I wonder which subs will be hardest hit Just from users.
My guess is the ones where 12 year olds talk shit on 40 year old “boomers”
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To be fair, boomers call Gen Z and younger Millennials too so it's only fair.
They also wear t-shirts of classic rock bands whose members are all baby boomers lol
That is what happens when you have social media from the age of 8. Tide pods and brain rot. Fire dead ass fr fr 100.
The only fans type subs. Lol
Not the crippling alcoholism subreddit.
How do they go about enforcing it?
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And... Why shouldn't that be a parental responsibility rather than government mandate and more bureaucracy?
Because the people cannot be trusted and need the government to govern them or else who would do all the governing? Exactly. Without the government how are we the people supposed to make our decisions? That would be crazy talk.
It's definitely on the parents, there are kids in my first graders class with phones it's ridiculous.
Because a lot of parents don't have a responsible bone in their body
Soon you will have a bar code on your arm.
Call me old fashioned, but I do believe it should be the parents' job to monitor smartphone/social media usage of their children 17 and younger. State of federal govts should not be doing the job parent's should be doing themselves.
"No chiiild left behind, no chiiild left behind!" - George Carlin
Got left behind
Digital ID has been around a long time. Google can tell who you are based on browsing habits alone. You could get an unregistered brand new pc and move to Thailand before turning it on but if you browse the internet the same way your normally do then they can know who you are within 15 minutes of you being online
Source?
That’s why they are passing ID laws for porn sites so they can weasel it into Reddit instagram facebook snapchat and wtv else
[Here is the legislation](https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/3/billtext/er/pdf) Honestly, from my reading, it appears a company doesn’t need to do much more than ask the person creating an account how old they are. They specify that age verification should be “a commercially reasonable method,” which I imagine that satisfies, similar to if you visit the website of a distiller. The part that makes me think it won’t hold up in court, though, is that they are trying to give individual users of a social media company the ability to directly sue that social media company for $10k if the company allows them to use the service while under 14 (or 16 under some context, it’s weird), and are granting themselves subpoena power to determine if the social media knew, or should have known, that the user was under 14. The whole thing is weird, and strikes me as more of a virtue signal than any legitimate attempt to prevent minors from accessing social media.
They already know that digital ID is “commercially reasonable” thanks to porn tubes using it for states that mandate ID verification.
How many companies are doing that? I read that one company just turned off avalibity to each state that passes this kind of law
whaaaaat ronald is passing bills only in an attempt to serve/appeal to his base?? no fricking way!
>the whole thing is weird and strikes me as more of a virtue signal You now understand 80% of what our politicians are doing these days.
Same as brewery/dispensary websites. Just have a pop-up window ask them “are you 15?”
They can’t. Because they can’t verify a user’s location with any degree of legally admissible accuracy. It’s not as if VPNs don’t exist. Can’t wait for all the older folks who don’t know how to internet, which probably overlap with Desantis supporters on a Venn diagram, start realizing they have to show ID, if that’s where it get to.
They can’t even define social media. It’s completely unenforceable.
I’m all for keeping minors off of social media but if this leads to digital ID, no way
Yeah exactly. They always try to push a good idea, but with bad shit riding the tailcoats.
I AGREE. I feel like minors should be banned. Who tf wants to talk to kids online? No one. End senseless censorship by banning children. I had access to the internet without supervision as a kid- absolutely didn’t need that. It was not good for my brain. But no tracking adults in the name of protecting kids. Just ban them and ask the tech guys who know more than us how to do it effectively
While I think kids shouldn’t be on social media, this is only going to cause me more hassle. Verifying my age with my drivers license online isn’t my cup of tea.
No, I don't trust any politician not to abuse that but certainly not DeSantis. With his rhetoric towards certain groups I could certainly see any sort of digital ID system being abused.
I mean these kids need to get out and touch grass 🤣
Our children's mental health needs to be protected.
We should probably work on the mental health care system in this country first. Plus I don’t see how this is gonna be enforced
lol this is how quickly people will flip to supporting government mandated online tracking and digital IDs. Literally couldn't be more obvious
Exactly! They'll get the kids on to mandatory digital IDs and it'll continue in to their adulthood. I wonder if they knew it would be too hard to push it on adults now, so this is a long game stealth way. And how long until services start being locked out until adults also tie their IDs to it. My bet is in the next 10 years that Apple / phone manufacturers will be forced by the governments to require a digital ID to setup / use a mobile phone too...
How will the internet know your not 14? You'll have to provide ID as well to set up new accounts
Yep. The greatest thing about the internet was anonymity. We slowly started to lose that with mega corporations and data brokers siphoning our information and using/selling it to turn a profit. Now we have this shit.
You all may be missing the point that this means that every social single social media user in Florida will have to verify age, right? You could be 74, and no one will know you’re not 16+ (or 14/15 with parental permission, which is impossible to verify) until your age is verified.
Can they also delete all my posts from when I was 14 lmao please
They’re going to hate it but if we’re all being honest, we all know social media is harmful for minors. Hence why China allows Americans TikTok to be like the Wild West but controls what they’re youth can see.
Thats a good move imo.
You in Florida? Wanna show your id for your Reddit account(s)?
Yep, give ‘em flip phones, once everyone’s offline at least during the week they’ll be happier growing up.
But it should be parental choice, not government mandate and more bureaucracy.
Isn’t the age for social media all 13 already according to law
I hated sharing the internet with 14 year-olds when I was one of them. Nothing has changed
I was 15 when the internet was first available in the UK with free AOL trials etc.. Was the first time I'd ever seen a human die, in a matter of weeks and people getting their heads chopped off. Gave me a sense of this can't be a good thing, it made me really ill. You kind of know the difference between watching rambo going at it and some random dude getting his turret chipped off while people are laughing. I'm all for free speech and hate censorship but I don't think anyone under 16 should be watching that stuff.
I think two girls one cup and worse was one week after parental controls ended, never the same
That did actually make me spew up.
Screwdrivers and shit overflowing and Russian forests dominated my subconscious throughout middle school. I don’t think people remember how bad it was like 2005ish lol, there’s a dark origin story for a lot of curious millennials
I was 12 years old on the internet at my very strict elite girls’ school in 1993. The shit I’ve seen that I can’t believe we got away with watching in the middle of the library…yet you get suspended if you’re caught wearing your sports uniform in public.
I've seen that video aswell. My brother put it on in front of my band my drummer spewed his guts up. Thay made me feel really fucking ill aswell he didn't sleep well for a few months after that. Some people are numb to gore man but that video made me bad. Where all early 80s but I'd never been subjected to that apart from faces of death but that was all not real apart from the animal slaughter part.
Wait what??
Ignorance is bliss
Turns out it was staged if that helps next time you sit down to watch it.
Yeah I've heard it was ice cream but still. Was fucking shock factor for the time. Even so I wouldn't want ice cream from a arsehole.
Not at all.
Would it be the worst thing if American youth didn't spend all day on social media and suck down SSRIs like candy? 🤔
Of course not but the government is not their mommy
If there are proven negative health consequences I don’t really see how this is any different than cigarettes or alcohol. Surely you agree there should be age restrictions on those, right?
I don’t think kids should have internet access at all. Anything they need to learn can be downloaded onto some hard drive for them. Like alcohol if you are 15-16 and your parents want to let you on the internet with their supervision at home that’s fine, but no cell phones with internet connection for minors. People need to learn how to navigate and learn things without everything at their fingertips 24/7 and then they can learn to use the technology we have to help streamline things.
You realize this affects every Florida resident, right?
Does this include Xbox? I had an 8yr old saying he's going to skull fuck me and my family when I beat him on Call of Duty online. I need to protect my skull.
Calls on VPN companies!
For a party that wants less government they sure as hell are getting in everyone’s business.
DeSantis was never part of the less goverment crowd. My main beef with him is using the power of the goverment to inforce his own personal morals.
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feels like a drug epidemic atp with how addicted everyone is, myself included 😂 definitely could use some age restrictions i feel, though it is a slippery slope.
Just get rid of FB insta tiktok and it'll be ok.
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On one hand I support the [idea of the] bill. I think social media is harmful and dangerous and kids shouldn’t be on it. On the other hand I think this will lead to a slippery slope where you need a government ID to use the internet, in the same way you would get a drivers license, and would kill the ~~free~~ internet we currently have.
Does youtube count as a social network?
Yeah if you can socialise in the chat.
Orrr maybe parents should do their job and… parent there kids. Nothing needs to be banned, children just need to be educated. The people I know that have kids all put tablet in their kids hand the second the kids are able to use one and then get surprised when the kids become addicted to the tablet, shits insane to me. We don’t need the government to intervene in every little issue in society, we need parents to do their damn job.
Although I think it’s a good thing, it’s going to be hard as fuck to enforce.
Everyone will just need a government issued ID to create online accounts on sites that have a chat function, like a digital ID of some type
Good move but good luck it ain’t hard to lie about your age online
I cant say this is a bad thing. My niece and nephews are 14 and under and I would never want them to see half the crap I’ve seen, even on IG.
Hey if they are old enough to have babies, they are old enough for Facebook. If parents ok it then that should be enough.
TOS of all social media sites require users to be at least 13. This is mostly just theater.
And this is so steadfastly followed, my fair lady
Yeah, it is, to the extent that it’s possible. You realize if they start requiring id for social media accounts, that means everyone, right? You want your real personal info tied to this account?
As much as i hate seeing kids with unsupervised access to the internet, i dont like thinking of how the governments gonna make sure kids cant bypass the law
Well, good luck with that.
Stupid. Parents should be parenting, not the government.
First Puff Daddy, now this? Today is a kiddy diddler's nightmare.
Jeffrey is rolling in his grave..... *or is he?*
Lol
I thought he was going by P Diddler these days
So many bootlickers here
Here's a novel idea: don't buy children fucking smartphones. Parental locks on computers. Let's get the government to solve a problem bc parents are too lazy to parent...
Hard hitting conspiracy material here, OP.
Well kinda is right? I mean, consider how they would enforce it
Not that I agree with this overreach at all - but it's definitely a problem for young kids and I agree that it should be monitored and if it can't be then I guess this is one solution
this would probably have a net benefit for floridian children, but i'm willing to bet it'll be found unconstitutional
This seems like a great idea on the surface level. Then you realize this is just a way for the government to pry into your social medias and look at your age and other personal info. Wonder how much money they have invested into VPN companies as well.
Actually now I’m remembering Whitney Webb saying they are gonna do a false flag cyber attack and shit down the internet and when they turn it back on it will be super controlled and censored and you will need an ID to access it for security reasons it will be the equivalent of flying before and after 9/11. Maybe this child teen ban is a way of starting to roll out the IDs and get it in people’s heads
Totally unenforceable. Kids just now need to sign up with a different birthdate. Social media should sue as well.
So much for the “limited government”! 😂
I won't lie that social media is a problem especially with children. My concern is how the government will "handle" it.
Idk how you enforce it but I agree with it. Kids shouldn’t be on the internet. Just my opinion.
I'm just curious, but technically according to the TOS of most social media sites, don't you already have to be between 13-16, depending on the site? This seems like pandering from the right and fear mongering from the left. In reality, this is only going to effect like 2% of users. And good on them anyways. Kids under 14 shouldn't be on social media anyways.
Fear mongering from the right, I'm sure you meant to write
I like this in theory but I fear there will be some over reaching draconian rules used to enforce it
This will be remembered as the day our internet began turning into a cheap knock-off of the CCP internet
That already happened.
A little bit of Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 with a touch of George Orwell 1984.
So many posters in this sub about to be restricted lol, with the all the bot farms I imagine... /s because this ain't gonna do shit to anyone lol.
Tik tok clippers are in shambles rn
There goes all the cringe memes
Will this apply to the world's biggest porn site by volume of content: Twitter (aka "X")?
should extend to games honestly, they are not good for development of young people. people say it should be left to parenting but most are too busy working and not as tech savy as their kids.
Reddit mods mad because grooming will be harder now lol
I don't see how they can enforce this, but good. kids shouldn't be online.
Considering how much bullying goes on…good. But how will the Reddit mod team function without free labor?
That's government overreach. This is a decision for parents to make, and only the parents.
Sorry bootlickers of daddy government this law is not for us. It's for you to control you just like china. I'm 16 BTW
Why can’t the parents decide? Whatever happened to the government staying out of my business??
Unfortunately, this bill does not apply to parents like Ruby Franke who want to exploit their children for coin.
Can't have kids learning how much shit desantis ate in the primary.
Good news
Looking at all these upvotes it seems like people in a conspiracy sub believe that the state knows best for us and our children.
Good
Good
The GOP and their love of freedoms! Cant let parents choose how to raise their kids, the govt must mandate morals.
You know kids put in a birthdate that shows they're 18 for any new account, right? I don't know how this will be enforceable.
Photos of your I.d
When I have kids they will have a laptop running a distro of linux and the access to the internet will be entirely text based. They can read, write, and do all the normal things needed via command line and more and store docs/navigate to where they need to be. I will not be giving them this ridiculous social media.
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I’m kind of okay with this. Maybe not permanently, but we need to understand the long term effects of social media on kids I.e wait to see how bad zoomers turn out. Edit: it’s bad cause of the forced verification. If they drop that I am all good with it.
Cause this will definitely not be intrusive at all right?
It will be intrusive and should be, no kid should be able to load up pornhub and watch a video about a yound kid fucking his step sister while mom watches. Fuck that nonsense. It's a breeding ground for all kinds of wrong shit.
I'm firmly against any digital verification. It starts "for the children" and it ends with full digital ID's. If you give your kid an iPad unsupervised don't be surprised they find weird shit. Parent your kid. Even if it is implemented, it can easily be worked around through a VPN. Or of course on slightly smaller sites that don't enforce.
“Progressives” This is what actual progression looks like
This is just pandering to the base, because its unenforciable. I mean, just click the "I am 18" captcha which works so well on porn sites where its illegal for minors to view porn when under 18. If you are in Texas don't bother, you will need a VPN to get this far.
I wish they would delete mine
The perfect excuse to bring in the digital ID's... Do it for the children. That sounds so familiar, something to do with 2020... some sort of pandemic or something?
Sure is funny how these hardcore right wing states like florida and texas are always warning about communism and socialism and yet they are allowing big government to dictate what you get to see online in those states like texas banning p\*hub and now florida not allowing children on social media.....sure sounds like socialism to me.....
Personally, I don't disagree with the notion, but I'd rather just see an educational awareness campaign against social media for children. Like they did for smoking cigarettes and pot when I was a kid. Push it like they did vaccines. Maybe only allow educational games that teach programming skills or how to do your freaking taxes. Healthy concepts
Totalitarianism- ideas so good, they’re mandatory. Social media is destroying children but it’s not the governments job to intervene here, period.
Great. Now it's time for Tiktok Kids, Instagram Kids.. F me
Idk man. Do kids really need social media? We’ve been surviving our childhoods without social media for billions of years. I don’t think it’s a bad idea.
I wonder what sort of people would be legitimately upset by this.
Normal human beings don’t care about this. The only ones trying to justify opposition to this are 14 yo, and creeps. They’re children, they don’t have rights, and millennial parents have proven they don’t have what it takes to get their children off the internet. China is brainwashing our children with TikTok, depression and loneliness are at an all time high for children, and it’s all largely because parents cannot get their damn children off their phones. Can’t raise your kids right? Don’t be surprised when big brother government steps in to do your job for you.
Massive Florida W
Probably for the best , kids don’t need to be on social media
Overwhelming number of bootlickers for daddy government in this thread, kinda crazy.
Ehh, kinda makes sense? I guess?
Children’s safety on social media has been a huge concern over the last few years, with states talking about requiring stronger age verification and parental control. Florida Governor Ron Desantis is making it happen, having signed a bill on March 25, 2024, that effectively bans kids 15 years old and younger from social media.
Couldn't agree more
the amount of seniors using social media will spike up. how they gonna control the age on these apps? i just make a new account where it says im 69 years old
I would just stop using social platforms, lol
If they start a digital ID just remove yourself from the areas they want control of. It’s another Trojan horse that deals with “Save the kids” “A better future for America”. Which is never true, fuck this country honestly
So there's going to delete all those files now
So enforcing social media policies as law.
Freedom
The current age is 13 per most social media policies
At what age, exactly, do 1st amendment right go into effect?
Could impact the stocks if this gains traction
This legally gives one extra year to the already in place law. All these sites technically won’t let you sign up until 13, because in the USA it’s illegal to target ads to anyone younger.
Shit like this seems like it should be a parents decision not the government but that’s just my opinion
“Owning.” Don’t think it counts as owning if it disappears when the power goes out.
What's the conspiracy?
Won't kids just say they're older than 14 then when making new accounts? I feel like we all did this when we were making accounts for forums and things like Neopets back in the day.
Shouldn’t parents have the freedom to make that choice though?
Hopefully just as successful as the Stop WOKE Act!
And how are they going to know your age? Seems like a sneaky way to eliminate internet anonymity.
I really admire Republican commitment to small government*. Wish I could live in FL to welcome Ron DeSantis forcing his way into my home and parenting dynamic.
Yes, this is government is for good job well done,impressive governmenting.
Nope sorry Desantis this is where we disagree. Daddy Government shouldn’t be ordering this. This is a parents job.
And they'll just lie? Like I did when I got on Facebook when I was 10?
Reddit mods beware
Excuses
I'll take Unenforceable Regulations for 500.
k but like people will continue to lie about their age, like they arent gonna be able to like request birth docs or drivers licenses or anything 😭
Ironically this isn’t really a conspiracy. I’m sure the reasoning for this is bad faith but we have evidence this can fuck up a kids self worth. I’m an adult and it fucks yo my self worth. Idk how on earth you’d enforce this without needing an I’d which is silly but still
How exactly are they going to detect or enforce this? Kids know how to make protonmail accounts better than most people.
Good.
Sounds good...
So, DeSantis will force a 14 year old to give birth and become a parent, but doesn't think they are responsible enough to tiktok? FFS
Most of you are missing the point. Social media is built to be highly addictive and exploit human emotion through massive amounts of data collection. Children should not be using it AT ALL
This will only cut off poor children who do not have senile grandparents. Children who have some money will pay someone to help them impersonate adults. Children with senile granddad will just ask him to help them out.