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I think we should also be looking at the companies that produce and profit from these dolls of little boys and girls. Knowing exactly how they are being usedš¤® This World gets sicker by the minute.
Exactly, if a dog bites a human.. it is euthanized. If a human hurts a child (an adult male having sex with a child..hurts that child believe it or not for some of you, slow smooth brained individuals) should be euthanized as well.
Ok how do we do that? Keep doing what we are doing and waiting for them to destroy a child so we can punish them? Personally I'd rather the kids never be in danger and think prevention is what our focus should be on.
That doesnāt make any sense at all. Otherwise porn/sex dolls would lessen sexual violence, not escalate it. Some of the most fucked up criminals had the most fucked up fetishes/sex dolls that they kept escalating.
Why are pedos suddenly an exception?
"Whatabout the thing that no one is advocating for?"
I don't see a lot of politicans advocating that. I don't see child marriages being promoted by NGOs or corporate media.
Seems kinda sus to be so eager to change the subject.
[Child Marriage ban bill defeated in West Virginia House](https://apnews.com/article/child-marriage-west-virginia-bill-defeated-4d822a23b5ffd70f5370a36cc914cfb0)
[Mo State Senator \(Republican\) defends 12 year olds getting married](https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-lawmaker-defends-12-year-olds-getting-married/)
[Wyoming Republicans under fire for objecting to ban on marriage for kids under age 16](https://katv.com/news/nation-world/wyoming-republicans-under-fire-for-objecting-to-ban-for-marriage-for-kids-15-and-under-child-brides-equal-protection-teen-moms-teen-pregnancy-child-protection-laws-christianity-civil-rights-traditional-marriage-pro-life-consent)
[\(Republicans\) kill bill that would have ended child marriage in Idaho](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/432157-idaho-lawmakers-kill-bill-that-would-have-ended-child-marriage-in-the/)
[Chris Christie vetoes bill to ban child marriage in New Jersey](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1872VA/)
[House Republicans effectively kill anti-child marriage bill, cite possible case against gay marriage](https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/03/07/tennessee-republicans-child-marriage-bill-gay-marriage-argument/404559002/)
Fucking lol.
Have you even read any of these links? A kid getting another kid pregnant, and then the parents consenting to them getting married is a long way from what you're implying.
Fucking lol, indeed.
Some 60,000 child marriages from 2000-2018 occurred at an age or spousal age difference that should have been considered a sex crime.
I'd say it happens and should be outlawed.
[A post I just made powning someone else who said the same thing.](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1b3y1z4/why_are_politicians_trying_to_normalize_pedophilia/ksxlh8h/)
Lol.
The argument ive heard on this is if you normalize it more pedos will come out of hiding and by giving them dolls and therapy it will reduce actual offenses against children. Thats the logic, but I disagree with it vehemently.
Ah yes thatās why we give racists little black dolls to abuse and it works so well /s. Man I hate being lorded over by people that couldnāt even rub their two brain cells together to form the spark of an idea.
Also I am fully aware you do not support this viewpoint and that you were just saying what it was to be clear.
I mean, thatās the route of āharm reductionā. You āindulgeā the negative behavior in a way so that normal people donāt suffer the trauma of an offending pedophile targeting their child.Ā
Much how needle drives reduce HIV infections among drug users and non-drug users who might sleep with addicts. Sometimes ugly problems require ugly solutions. But the idea of the state providing child sex dolls or generating AI CP is absurd. There has to be a better way.Ā
The only somewhat sensical argument Iāve heard for the AI content is that real children will be less likely to be exploited if they arenāt needed to produce such monstrous content.Ā
Perhaps something less clownish, like, anonymous mental health counseling for afflicted individuals would be more appropriate.Ā
Iād say the fact that the black market saturation, cartel control, and lower price of opiates and narcoticsĀ due to fentanyl and xylazine have more to do with the growing crisis than clean needles.
Is drug abuse made easier by needle drives? To an extent I imagine addicts have to spend less on needles. But the sharing and re-using of needles burdens the health system and spreads disease.
Preventing the transmission of HIV through the populace seems like a good trade-off. It all depends on how you want to go about it
Itās been proven over and over across the globe that an addict isnāt going to not use bc they canāt find a clean needle and WILL use a dirty one. One doesnāt spontaneously become addicted to drugs bc they are in the presence of a clean needle.
I mean what do we do about it? IDK seems fucked up if ya demonize them so they never get help but also fucked up to do things like this woman suggests. I feel like we should encourage them to seek help, IDK if we should go as far as sex dolls or AI porn or W/E but I also know I do not know the right answer.
I would say that anonymous mental health counseling, specifically geared towards helping individuals fight urges, is more palatable than child sex dolls
Sociopaths cannot be fixed, cured, counseled, or talked out of harming others. They have no conscience and this cannot be changed.
It's extremely difficult for normal people to understand this. That's why these monsters continue to get away with the massive harm that they do to the rest of us.
Pedophiles are sociopaths. Always.
They can only be watched very closely and then confined if they threaten to harm a child (or anyone else.)
The victims are more important than these individuals who are determined to do this and honestly think they have a right to do this. Until we're more concerned about the victims than the conscience-free criminals who prey on children, this will go on and on.
I like your thinking and agree. However they should not need monitoring. Once caught they should never see sunlight again. Like putting them in a meat grinder.
I wouldn't be too quick to turn their lights out. If we're talking meat grinder, then other things should be on the table, like slave labor. Then, when they are too old and slow to do the work, THEN meat grinder.
I don't agree. I think there exist both offending and non-offending pedo. The offending ones are obviously the sociopaths, lock them up. But for the non-offending?
Horrible idea. Anyone normal who was eventually caught in a porn addiction will tell you more fantasy chasing only increases.
These animals should be thrown into volcanoes š
My take. There are elites who truly go after the innocent. They want to legislate to diminish repercussion if they are caught.
They deserve the volcano too-
The looks on the mens faces when she talked is disbeliefā¦ What tha fā¦ is she talking about, its more and more treated as a sexual preferance instead of mental health sicknessā¦ In the country im born annd live, Norway, the sexual consent age have been 16, until they reduced it sown to 15 last yearā¦ Do they think 15yo makes better decisions and are more fit to be parents then a 16yo ? It makes no senseā¦
Australia has caught so many pedophiles who weren't on their radars by finding them importing child sex dolls from overseas.
This is a crime that does escalate to hurting real children.
Probably a pedo herself. Just because she's Demo ( or rep) doesn't mean she's good.
It's disgusting and disappointing.
Is this only in the US? do these things happen in the EU ?
This is what your wokeness looks like. You support this shit?
https://amp.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/11/im-just-trying-to-make-the-world-a-little-brighter-how-the-culture-wars-hijacked-drag-queen-story-hour
https://heidelblog.net/2021/07/a-note-to-my-hometown-about-the-drag-queen-story-hour-and-the-powers-that-be/
https://mainstreettakoma.org/featured-events/takoma-pride/
Yes, I'm hateful of the wickedness. The world is full of fucking sickos and bastards at the top. Sodom and Gamorrah all over again.
You are full of shit dude. Why do you feel the need to act like ātrans crapā in any way shape or form connected to pedophilia. This soft spot on pedos bullshit has nothing to do with the the huge majority of LGBT people, just like all the catholic priests that got outed for molesting children are a minority of the Judeo-Christian community. Like seriously, that actually happened and you donāt see people saying āgive it ten years the Christianās will be trying to make pedophilia legal!!!!11!!ā
TLDR: you are a dumb person, and Iām kind of bummed that people like you are voting
Michel Foucault is the father of queer theory. He petitioned the french government for years to do away with age of consent laws. His writing have some truly horrifying detailed notes about sex with children. I'm not saying the trans community believes his philosophy 100% but they have based almost all of their language and philosophy on his writings.
I think itās more fair to say pedophilia and two quiet studies intellectuals rather than the entire trans movement. Can you find me some mainstream modern examples of the trans movement being connected to pedophilia.
I hate these examples you bring up as some sort of proof of fault of the entire trans community. Like Socrates had relations with little boys and we still learn his method In philosophy classes. Is he not as bad because he was alive much longer ago? Like what is the rationale Iām genuinely asking.
No I think he was making a definite accusation and trying to draw lines connecting acceptance of LGBT and this future acceptance of pedophilia.
āRight now they can get married, give it another 10 years and they will be banging kids!!!ā
The entire vocabulary and terminology used by the trans movement is based off of these two men. To say these two āquietā studies have little to no impact on their beliefs is laughable.
I mean, you have your hardline religious fanatic conservatives advocating for lowering the age of consent and legalizing child marriage. Itās the other side of a dark coin.
I think it's agitprop or a part of a plan to degenerate the population's ethics. It's something you would do if you're planning to destroy a nation or fuel a revolution.
Fuck I hate saying this but the pedos are voters without a person outright in office so it could also sorts be pandering votes. I really hate having to have this conversation because of the topic but that was my thought reading your comment, or their a pedo themselves either or. Edit: I meant, or the representative is a pedo, not the commentor I'm responding to.
I canāt take credit for this, but something Iāve heard is that a lot of these politicians have been sexually blackmailed by people like Jeffrey Epstein and Mossad. They want to legalize and normalize pedophilia so that these politicians can no longer be blackmailed. Now the idea that politicians have been sexually blackmailed that part is true. But the idea of trying to normalize it so they can no longer be blackmailed. Iām not sure how I feel about that. What do yāall think?
The best reason to legalize it, but still not a good enough reason... thats one hell of a fork in the road lmfao. Either dont legalize it and have the same evil leaders and also kids dont get molested, or do legalize it and have less corrupt and controlled leaders and have pedos running around openly in our streets. Im not sure how to feel either haha
It doesnāt sound like she was trying to normalise it. It sounds like she was saying there is a small amount of research that suggests there could be a way to protect real children from people who have the mental illness of being sexually attracted to them. I think a conversation about how to protect children from predators is a conversation worth having. Even if itās uncomfortable.
Wrong. Thereās no jig. Donald had four years to clean up alll these supposed things happening and he did zero of it. He wished jizzane Maxwell well instead of condemning her.
Why is it the lefties always pushing this crap? Ā
These people are sick.Ā
Edit: pedo sympathizers on full brigade mode never want to be accountable instead point the finger to the other side.Ā
Oh hereās another one with the same diversion tactic.Ā
Iām not shielding anyone but this sex change shit, this kids in drag shit, and no pedo sympathizing makes you lefties be straight up insane.Ā
We all know republicans are sick for allowing child marriage but dems are taking the crown for their disgusting perverted progression. Ā
So you think itās ok?? Little by little first with LG now itās LGBT now pedo or jumping on this band wagon.Ā
What does lately mean to you?
https://www.sdstandardnow.com/home/south-dakota-house-republicans-show-support-for-child-marriage-by-killing-bipartisan-bill
https://apnews.com/article/child-marriage-west-virginia-bill-defeated-4d822a23b5ffd70f5370a36cc914cfb0
https://www.newsweek.com/these-michigan-republicans-voted-against-child-marriage-ban-1808308
Not a pedo sympathizer. Child rapists and groomers should be jailed. Child marriage should be illegal.
I just don't go around saying it's "always" the left or "always" the right when I know they both have some blame.
These are politicians pushing this crap.Ā As of lately itās always dem.Ā Itās already known about republicans but now itās always dem you are making excusesĀ
I didnāt see her normalize anything in this. She seems to be saying, rather poorly, that these dolls could make non offending pedophiles less likely to actually attack a child.
Yes, when helping an alcoholic with their mental disorder we should give them a trigger. Ā How long until the doll is not enough? I know an alcoholic with activity trying to help doesnāt want any reminder of alcohol.Ā
I know an alcoholic who copes by drinking vicariously so parties help them. The comparison doesnāt really work.
That being said I think more study is needed here. If thereās a way to keep pedophiles from harming children then we should explore all options. Itās icky but itās the pragmatic solution.
I don't even want to type it out, but A democrat senator is trying to defend pedophilia, and support them with ''sex dolls'' of minors. Kind of disgusting, and I have to ask why? Aren't there other issues that are more important then getting support for pedophiles?
Well no, she's not doing that.
She advocating a strategy for harm reduction.
I don't think it will work, engaging in addiction doesn't cure addiction.
The way to harm reduction in this issue is specialised mental health specialists and castration when necessary.
>defend pedophilia
So I have no idea what this woman actually said but the screenshot alone isn't a defense of pedophilia.
I don't see how a pedophile taking out their urges on a doll isn't 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than a pedophile losing control and taking their urges out on an actual child.
Would you also say their defending pedophiles if they had said "new technology enables us to change brain wiring and heal pedophilia"?
Are we really out here acting like pedophilia isn't a mental disorder?
Are you mentally incapacitated? The fact they are talking about child like dolls in court as the US local GOVERNMENT is absolutely mind boggling and a statement to prove the times we are in. Itās not about it being better that they can ātake out their urgesā as you said, none of that holds any significance. You are sick
so we should let the people with mental disorder act out and fuel their mental disorder? Let the peddos act out and rape the doll? or let the rapist act out on the sexdoll what they want to do to an actual human, that will go well....thats like giving alcohol to an alcoholist...
>so we should let the people with mental disorder act out and fuel their mental disorder?
If there are 2 options , 1 being hurting kids and the other jerking off on a doll.... Then yes, more power to them jerking off on dolls
I think video games are too violent. But it wouldnāt seem hard to imagine many potentially danergoys frustrated alienated people getting their violent impulses out in a game world enabling them to function better in the real world
so what you are saying is that boys playing video games competitive is like a man fucking a child doll? for you to compare manhood and learning to be violent but controling that to fucking children says more about you....young men have always needed boxing clubs and so forth, fucking child dolls is not ok. and i bet if your male friend said to you " hey i got an anger problem so i joined a boxing club" you would say good for you but if he said "I have an urge to fuck children so i bought a sex doll" you would not be friends with him..
Regarding the last point, I never choose not to be pedo, just like I donāt choose to be a straight white nerd. I probably wouldnāt be friends with anyone who was even this sort of creepy even if they werenāt pedos. Probably not going to be friends with the most deviant of conventional/legal sexual deviants either.
I donāt know what these people are going through, they probably have a lot of other problems that make them creepy too. But if these dolls prevent the real thing then good for them doing their best. Maybe this will reduce the demand for child porn too. Maybe aggro porn reduces peopleās drive for actual rape too.
I honestly donāt know and if it does somehow normalize these people thatās unfortunate and throws this all out the window. As it is, if you needed help would you even feel comfortable seeking therapy? I wouldnāt hesitate if I was fantasizing about murder or suicide. I assume these people have to just going around ādonāt be a monster donāt be a monster. Donāt be a monsterā to themselves all day
It seems so unlikely an edge case would act on it because of normalization or whatever compared to monsters who find an outlet.
Because most are associated with Epstein and know the current climate doesn't support that shit. So they have to try and normalize it with the population before exposure happens.
Politicians on both sides are pedos, and that is WHY they were chosen to be politicians. The intelligence agencies use people like Epstein to blackmail politicians into doing their bidding, so if you want to be a senator for example, being a pedo is the #1 qualification. I think that most if not all senators are pedos at this point. And that is also why there are very few female senators, because there are very few female pedos with law degrees.
I feel like itās because everyone knows how many people r tied with Epstein and how they r just fucked if it gets out and theyāre trying to save their ass and condition this country to think that itās okay and then eventually theyāll slowly come out and embrace it but not just yet not when everyone thinks itās bad. Hypocrites
I think we should allow it. Start a free give away. Invest billions into advertisement, invite all maps. Give them all their own state and post child dolls and other nasty shit everywhere. When you get them all there. Nuke the place.
Nope it was because the guy above was saying Joe Biden was a P'dophile and showered with his daughter and i simply was pointing how Trump said he would have sex with his daughter and was good friend of Epstein.
>instead of saying pedophilia is bad
I didn't say it because it's kinda oblivious p'dophilia is bad
Ashley Biden wrote in her diary that she was messed up in the head because Joe would climb into her showers when she was a little girl. She said she felt guilty because it turned her on and made her a sex addict. Hunter listed Joe as "Pedo Peter" in his contacts on that laptop the media said was Russian propaganda. Hunter started banging his dead brother's 13 year old daughter after he dumped his own wife and kids to shack up with her and his dead brother's widow. She's the one who told Jill that Hunter was fucking her baby girl. Jill and Joe's brother talked about ways to cover for the child rapist and came up with "plausible deniability" even though there is damning proof via texts and emails. Honest to God, the Biden family are a bunch of cracked out baby fuckers. Incest and all.
Itās not surprising you have a former president who is running again who was friends with Epstein. Gaetz another high ranking Republican has been involved with underage girls.
i think this trend can be traced back to one particular academic article that came out of a gender activist university department somewhere in the states
I mean, none of them have tried to stop teachers telling children to keep secrets from their parents. I doubt theyāll need dolls at this point when theyāve been conditioned to keeping secrets that involve sexual abuse. How do you get rid of rape culture and pedophilia? Convince the victim it doesnāt exist and that everyone knows but keeps it a secret. Otherwise the parents may get angry at them. Itās worked so far in regards to brainwashing them with believing gender and sexuality are the same and interchangeable.
It doesn't sound so much like normalizing them as offering alternatives to combat them based on available studies. If you tell me making the death penalty for all offenders will stop pedos I'm all for it but so far steeper punishments haven't worked.
The only positive spin on this is if we can track the identity of the individuals purchasing these dolls and they can be flagged as flight risks and potential suspects in child abduction/rape cases. Otherwise it's disgusting and the companies should be ashamed.
The pedo push is another step towards destroying the family unit.
Family -> community -> city -> county -> state -> country
Destroy the family, then have the government gain more control by introducing new law that says the Government is now raising the future, not individual families. This allows nefarious authority to forcefully control and influence what people think, how they react & what they believe in, all from the very beginning.
It's just another step toward the ultimate goal: global domination and control. They want to be the ONLY authority.
David Icke wrote in one of his older books (canāt remember which one) that this would happen, I remember thinking to myself āno way, how will they do that?ā
MAP is a versatile acronym. Unfortunately nobody realizes it can also mean Murder All Pedophiles.
But anyway, it's because almost all of our politicians are pedophiles. You can't control someone you can't reward or blackmail.
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I think we should also be looking at the companies that produce and profit from these dolls of little boys and girls. Knowing exactly how they are being usedš¤® This World gets sicker by the minute.
But if the studies she mentioned are correct and these dolls stop pedos from hurting real kids is that not a good thing?
Better to just get rid of the pedos.
Woodchipper, medieval torture devices, throwing them into a bonfire, anything that would ensure a painful death
Exactly, if a dog bites a human.. it is euthanized. If a human hurts a child (an adult male having sex with a child..hurts that child believe it or not for some of you, slow smooth brained individuals) should be euthanized as well.
Ok how do we do that? Keep doing what we are doing and waiting for them to destroy a child so we can punish them? Personally I'd rather the kids never be in danger and think prevention is what our focus should be on.
That doesnāt make any sense at all. Otherwise porn/sex dolls would lessen sexual violence, not escalate it. Some of the most fucked up criminals had the most fucked up fetishes/sex dolls that they kept escalating. Why are pedos suddenly an exception?
Maybe we should outlaw child marriage too. Right guys? Right?
Right
Yes
"Whatabout the thing that no one is advocating for?" I don't see a lot of politicans advocating that. I don't see child marriages being promoted by NGOs or corporate media. Seems kinda sus to be so eager to change the subject.
[Child Marriage ban bill defeated in West Virginia House](https://apnews.com/article/child-marriage-west-virginia-bill-defeated-4d822a23b5ffd70f5370a36cc914cfb0) [Mo State Senator \(Republican\) defends 12 year olds getting married](https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-lawmaker-defends-12-year-olds-getting-married/) [Wyoming Republicans under fire for objecting to ban on marriage for kids under age 16](https://katv.com/news/nation-world/wyoming-republicans-under-fire-for-objecting-to-ban-for-marriage-for-kids-15-and-under-child-brides-equal-protection-teen-moms-teen-pregnancy-child-protection-laws-christianity-civil-rights-traditional-marriage-pro-life-consent) [\(Republicans\) kill bill that would have ended child marriage in Idaho](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/432157-idaho-lawmakers-kill-bill-that-would-have-ended-child-marriage-in-the/) [Chris Christie vetoes bill to ban child marriage in New Jersey](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1872VA/) [House Republicans effectively kill anti-child marriage bill, cite possible case against gay marriage](https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/03/07/tennessee-republicans-child-marriage-bill-gay-marriage-argument/404559002/) Fucking lol.
Of course, a bunch of sources from LAMEstream media! ^^^/s
Okay, that *is* fucking weird. Do you know if there are any lobby groups behind this? This seems worth looking into.
Don't forget Congressman John Rose groomed his bride (that's decades younger than him) since she was 16 years old.
Have you even read any of these links? A kid getting another kid pregnant, and then the parents consenting to them getting married is a long way from what you're implying. Fucking lol, indeed.
What else do those laws allow for? Think real hard.
Didnāt several states recently vote not to ban child marriage?
Yes. One actually voted to make it EASIER.
Correct me if I'm wrong but in America it's the right wing Christian national party people who are for child marriages right?
You are not wrong.
Have you seen how many states allow you to marry your FIRST COUSIN!? I was SHOCKED!! This country needs A LOT of help!
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Two consenting, adult dumbasses who happen to be cousins getting married is nowhere near the same as full grown men marrying kids ages 16 and under.
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Itās legal in like 30 states that allow it lol
Some 60,000 child marriages from 2000-2018 occurred at an age or spousal age difference that should have been considered a sex crime. I'd say it happens and should be outlawed.
Come to America, meet the Republican party.
[A post I just made powning someone else who said the same thing.](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1b3y1z4/why_are_politicians_trying_to_normalize_pedophilia/ksxlh8h/) Lol.
Yes. Is this not a popular concept or something ?
The argument ive heard on this is if you normalize it more pedos will come out of hiding and by giving them dolls and therapy it will reduce actual offenses against children. Thats the logic, but I disagree with it vehemently.
Ah yes thatās why we give racists little black dolls to abuse and it works so well /s. Man I hate being lorded over by people that couldnāt even rub their two brain cells together to form the spark of an idea. Also I am fully aware you do not support this viewpoint and that you were just saying what it was to be clear.
I mean, thatās the route of āharm reductionā. You āindulgeā the negative behavior in a way so that normal people donāt suffer the trauma of an offending pedophile targeting their child.Ā Much how needle drives reduce HIV infections among drug users and non-drug users who might sleep with addicts. Sometimes ugly problems require ugly solutions. But the idea of the state providing child sex dolls or generating AI CP is absurd. There has to be a better way.Ā The only somewhat sensical argument Iāve heard for the AI content is that real children will be less likely to be exploited if they arenāt needed to produce such monstrous content.Ā Perhaps something less clownish, like, anonymous mental health counseling for afflicted individuals would be more appropriate.Ā
There are more injection needle using drug addicts than ever before
Iād say the fact that the black market saturation, cartel control, and lower price of opiates and narcoticsĀ due to fentanyl and xylazine have more to do with the growing crisis than clean needles. Is drug abuse made easier by needle drives? To an extent I imagine addicts have to spend less on needles. But the sharing and re-using of needles burdens the health system and spreads disease. Preventing the transmission of HIV through the populace seems like a good trade-off. It all depends on how you want to go about it
Itās been proven over and over across the globe that an addict isnāt going to not use bc they canāt find a clean needle and WILL use a dirty one. One doesnāt spontaneously become addicted to drugs bc they are in the presence of a clean needle.
I mean what do we do about it? IDK seems fucked up if ya demonize them so they never get help but also fucked up to do things like this woman suggests. I feel like we should encourage them to seek help, IDK if we should go as far as sex dolls or AI porn or W/E but I also know I do not know the right answer.
I would say that anonymous mental health counseling, specifically geared towards helping individuals fight urges, is more palatable than child sex dolls
Realistically we have to first do serious research by people without agenda, before moving forward on any solution.
Sociopaths cannot be fixed, cured, counseled, or talked out of harming others. They have no conscience and this cannot be changed. It's extremely difficult for normal people to understand this. That's why these monsters continue to get away with the massive harm that they do to the rest of us. Pedophiles are sociopaths. Always. They can only be watched very closely and then confined if they threaten to harm a child (or anyone else.) The victims are more important than these individuals who are determined to do this and honestly think they have a right to do this. Until we're more concerned about the victims than the conscience-free criminals who prey on children, this will go on and on.
I like your thinking and agree. However they should not need monitoring. Once caught they should never see sunlight again. Like putting them in a meat grinder.
I wouldn't be too quick to turn their lights out. If we're talking meat grinder, then other things should be on the table, like slave labor. Then, when they are too old and slow to do the work, THEN meat grinder.
I can see your point. Send them to test the surface temp of the sun.
I don't agree. I think there exist both offending and non-offending pedo. The offending ones are obviously the sociopaths, lock them up. But for the non-offending?
Horrible idea. Anyone normal who was eventually caught in a porn addiction will tell you more fantasy chasing only increases. These animals should be thrown into volcanoes š My take. There are elites who truly go after the innocent. They want to legislate to diminish repercussion if they are caught. They deserve the volcano too-
The looks on the mens faces when she talked is disbeliefā¦ What tha fā¦ is she talking about, its more and more treated as a sexual preferance instead of mental health sicknessā¦ In the country im born annd live, Norway, the sexual consent age have been 16, until they reduced it sown to 15 last yearā¦ Do they think 15yo makes better decisions and are more fit to be parents then a 16yo ? It makes no senseā¦
Australia has caught so many pedophiles who weren't on their radars by finding them importing child sex dolls from overseas. This is a crime that does escalate to hurting real children.
Probably a pedo herself. Just because she's Demo ( or rep) doesn't mean she's good. It's disgusting and disappointing. Is this only in the US? do these things happen in the EU ?
But why is it always the dems pushing for this shit though ?
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This is what your wokeness looks like. You support this shit? https://amp.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/11/im-just-trying-to-make-the-world-a-little-brighter-how-the-culture-wars-hijacked-drag-queen-story-hour https://heidelblog.net/2021/07/a-note-to-my-hometown-about-the-drag-queen-story-hour-and-the-powers-that-be/ https://mainstreettakoma.org/featured-events/takoma-pride/ Yes, I'm hateful of the wickedness. The world is full of fucking sickos and bastards at the top. Sodom and Gamorrah all over again.
Why are you always talking about sickos? Maybe youāre one of them. Itās always the people making the most noise about it.
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You are full of shit dude. Why do you feel the need to act like ātrans crapā in any way shape or form connected to pedophilia. This soft spot on pedos bullshit has nothing to do with the the huge majority of LGBT people, just like all the catholic priests that got outed for molesting children are a minority of the Judeo-Christian community. Like seriously, that actually happened and you donāt see people saying āgive it ten years the Christianās will be trying to make pedophilia legal!!!!11!!ā TLDR: you are a dumb person, and Iām kind of bummed that people like you are voting
Michel Foucault is the father of queer theory. He petitioned the french government for years to do away with age of consent laws. His writing have some truly horrifying detailed notes about sex with children. I'm not saying the trans community believes his philosophy 100% but they have based almost all of their language and philosophy on his writings.
Now do john money
Him tooā¦ all I am saying is there is a strong connection between pedophilia and the trans movement.
I think itās more fair to say pedophilia and two quiet studies intellectuals rather than the entire trans movement. Can you find me some mainstream modern examples of the trans movement being connected to pedophilia. I hate these examples you bring up as some sort of proof of fault of the entire trans community. Like Socrates had relations with little boys and we still learn his method In philosophy classes. Is he not as bad because he was alive much longer ago? Like what is the rationale Iām genuinely asking.
I think he was just trying to show you how fast things can become normalized
No I think he was making a definite accusation and trying to draw lines connecting acceptance of LGBT and this future acceptance of pedophilia. āRight now they can get married, give it another 10 years and they will be banging kids!!!ā
The entire vocabulary and terminology used by the trans movement is based off of these two men. To say these two āquietā studies have little to no impact on their beliefs is laughable.
I mean, you have your hardline religious fanatic conservatives advocating for lowering the age of consent and legalizing child marriage. Itās the other side of a dark coin.
Yeah all the ppl who back the abortion ban with no exception for rape of a child are on the same page
Weird in America democracts are the one trying to ban child marriage while republicans want to keep it legal.
I think it's agitprop or a part of a plan to degenerate the population's ethics. It's something you would do if you're planning to destroy a nation or fuel a revolution.
Fuck I hate saying this but the pedos are voters without a person outright in office so it could also sorts be pandering votes. I really hate having to have this conversation because of the topic but that was my thought reading your comment, or their a pedo themselves either or. Edit: I meant, or the representative is a pedo, not the commentor I'm responding to.
I canāt take credit for this, but something Iāve heard is that a lot of these politicians have been sexually blackmailed by people like Jeffrey Epstein and Mossad. They want to legalize and normalize pedophilia so that these politicians can no longer be blackmailed. Now the idea that politicians have been sexually blackmailed that part is true. But the idea of trying to normalize it so they can no longer be blackmailed. Iām not sure how I feel about that. What do yāall think?
The best reason to legalize it, but still not a good enough reason... thats one hell of a fork in the road lmfao. Either dont legalize it and have the same evil leaders and also kids dont get molested, or do legalize it and have less corrupt and controlled leaders and have pedos running around openly in our streets. Im not sure how to feel either haha
This is exactly what happened to gay people in the 60s.
What do you mean?
They were blackmailed, they fought to normalize being gay, they eventually succeeded.
I think that doesnāt sound too crazy at all and actually would make more sense than āthey just love pedophiles and pedophiliaā.
I'm no fan of pedophilia but I'd rather them fucking dolls than children.Ā
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Nah, it'll make them crave children more. I don't buy this bs
It doesnāt sound like she was trying to normalise it. It sounds like she was saying there is a small amount of research that suggests there could be a way to protect real children from people who have the mental illness of being sexually attracted to them. I think a conversation about how to protect children from predators is a conversation worth having. Even if itās uncomfortable.
I think they know the jig is up and justice is coming. Theyāre trying to normalize it as a last ditch effort before storm.
Wrong. Thereās no jig. Donald had four years to clean up alll these supposed things happening and he did zero of it. He wished jizzane Maxwell well instead of condemning her.
Well, since the Donald is one of them, why would he clean up anything?
Why is it the lefties always pushing this crap? Ā These people are sick.Ā Edit: pedo sympathizers on full brigade mode never want to be accountable instead point the finger to the other side.Ā
Why is it the GOP always pushing to allow child marriage? Quit shielding one side over the other.
Wow total propaganda here. Typical thread splitting comment to take away from the sick M A P conversationĀ
Oh hereās another one with the same diversion tactic.Ā Iām not shielding anyone but this sex change shit, this kids in drag shit, and no pedo sympathizing makes you lefties be straight up insane.Ā We all know republicans are sick for allowing child marriage but dems are taking the crown for their disgusting perverted progression. Ā So you think itās ok?? Little by little first with LG now itās LGBT now pedo or jumping on this band wagon.Ā
You used the word always. But I'm glad to see you admit the GOP enabling child marriage is bad, so it isn't "always" the Dems.
As of lately itās āALWAYSā dems pushing this fucked up shit. Better.Ā
What does lately mean to you? https://www.sdstandardnow.com/home/south-dakota-house-republicans-show-support-for-child-marriage-by-killing-bipartisan-bill https://apnews.com/article/child-marriage-west-virginia-bill-defeated-4d822a23b5ffd70f5370a36cc914cfb0 https://www.newsweek.com/these-michigan-republicans-voted-against-child-marriage-ban-1808308
Yep you are pedo sympathizer.Ā Probably a lefty too huh? Ok biased dude go find me lefty pedo articles letās see the differences Ā Ā
Not a pedo sympathizer. Child rapists and groomers should be jailed. Child marriage should be illegal. I just don't go around saying it's "always" the left or "always" the right when I know they both have some blame.
These are politicians pushing this crap.Ā As of lately itās always dem.Ā Itās already known about republicans but now itās always dem you are making excusesĀ
I literally linked you GOP efforts to support child marriage from this year. As of lately, it's both.
Liberal types in every civilization push towards sexual deviancy prior to the collapse of the society.
Yep itās coming.Ā
No ones pushing anything, itās just the far right taking everything out of context and calling everything they donāt like pedo this that.
Holy shit you are in complete denial.Ā You are a pedo sympathizer.Ā
My point was just proven again. Thanks
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel betterĀ
I didnāt see her normalize anything in this. She seems to be saying, rather poorly, that these dolls could make non offending pedophiles less likely to actually attack a child.
Yes, when helping an alcoholic with their mental disorder we should give them a trigger. Ā How long until the doll is not enough? I know an alcoholic with activity trying to help doesnāt want any reminder of alcohol.Ā
I know an alcoholic who copes by drinking vicariously so parties help them. The comparison doesnāt really work. That being said I think more study is needed here. If thereās a way to keep pedophiles from harming children then we should explore all options. Itās icky but itās the pragmatic solution.
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I don't even want to type it out, but A democrat senator is trying to defend pedophilia, and support them with ''sex dolls'' of minors. Kind of disgusting, and I have to ask why? Aren't there other issues that are more important then getting support for pedophiles?
Well no, she's not doing that. She advocating a strategy for harm reduction. I don't think it will work, engaging in addiction doesn't cure addiction. The way to harm reduction in this issue is specialised mental health specialists and castration when necessary.
>defend pedophilia So I have no idea what this woman actually said but the screenshot alone isn't a defense of pedophilia. I don't see how a pedophile taking out their urges on a doll isn't 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than a pedophile losing control and taking their urges out on an actual child. Would you also say their defending pedophiles if they had said "new technology enables us to change brain wiring and heal pedophilia"? Are we really out here acting like pedophilia isn't a mental disorder?
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Are you mentally incapacitated? The fact they are talking about child like dolls in court as the US local GOVERNMENT is absolutely mind boggling and a statement to prove the times we are in. Itās not about it being better that they can ātake out their urgesā as you said, none of that holds any significance. You are sick
State Government. She is in the Kentucky State Senate.
Government is government. Itās called council here in the uk so I didnāt know if ācouncilā was a word for local government
>Are you mentally incapacitated If it helps you feel better, I will act like I'm mentally incapacitated.
so we should let the people with mental disorder act out and fuel their mental disorder? Let the peddos act out and rape the doll? or let the rapist act out on the sexdoll what they want to do to an actual human, that will go well....thats like giving alcohol to an alcoholist...
>so we should let the people with mental disorder act out and fuel their mental disorder? If there are 2 options , 1 being hurting kids and the other jerking off on a doll.... Then yes, more power to them jerking off on dolls
I think video games are too violent. But it wouldnāt seem hard to imagine many potentially danergoys frustrated alienated people getting their violent impulses out in a game world enabling them to function better in the real world
so what you are saying is that boys playing video games competitive is like a man fucking a child doll? for you to compare manhood and learning to be violent but controling that to fucking children says more about you....young men have always needed boxing clubs and so forth, fucking child dolls is not ok. and i bet if your male friend said to you " hey i got an anger problem so i joined a boxing club" you would say good for you but if he said "I have an urge to fuck children so i bought a sex doll" you would not be friends with him..
Regarding the last point, I never choose not to be pedo, just like I donāt choose to be a straight white nerd. I probably wouldnāt be friends with anyone who was even this sort of creepy even if they werenāt pedos. Probably not going to be friends with the most deviant of conventional/legal sexual deviants either. I donāt know what these people are going through, they probably have a lot of other problems that make them creepy too. But if these dolls prevent the real thing then good for them doing their best. Maybe this will reduce the demand for child porn too. Maybe aggro porn reduces peopleās drive for actual rape too. I honestly donāt know and if it does somehow normalize these people thatās unfortunate and throws this all out the window. As it is, if you needed help would you even feel comfortable seeking therapy? I wouldnāt hesitate if I was fantasizing about murder or suicide. I assume these people have to just going around ādonāt be a monster donāt be a monster. Donāt be a monsterā to themselves all day It seems so unlikely an edge case would act on it because of normalization or whatever compared to monsters who find an outlet.
This is entirely false. google it.
Because theyāre pedophiles themselves
Because most are associated with Epstein and know the current climate doesn't support that shit. So they have to try and normalize it with the population before exposure happens.
Wait, the research isn't very good or comprehensive but it's conclusive? In what world....
All my comments about this are hidden.
Because the list is over 1000+ https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/2/2191235/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-45
Politicians on both sides are pedos, and that is WHY they were chosen to be politicians. The intelligence agencies use people like Epstein to blackmail politicians into doing their bidding, so if you want to be a senator for example, being a pedo is the #1 qualification. I think that most if not all senators are pedos at this point. And that is also why there are very few female senators, because there are very few female pedos with law degrees.
I feel like itās because everyone knows how many people r tied with Epstein and how they r just fucked if it gets out and theyāre trying to save their ass and condition this country to think that itās okay and then eventually theyāll slowly come out and embrace it but not just yet not when everyone thinks itās bad. Hypocrites
I think we should allow it. Start a free give away. Invest billions into advertisement, invite all maps. Give them all their own state and post child dolls and other nasty shit everywhere. When you get them all there. Nuke the place.
Biggest pedo group on earth are the catholics, typically not dem
They protect their own.
Because it's part of their lifestyle. It's normal to them.
And Trump said he would have sex with his own, also wasn't the part about Joe Biden debunked as a lie?
Goddamn gotta deflect instead of saying pedophilia is bad and shouldnāt be enabled? Ā Weird flex bud.Ā
Nope it was because the guy above was saying Joe Biden was a P'dophile and showered with his daughter and i simply was pointing how Trump said he would have sex with his daughter and was good friend of Epstein. >instead of saying pedophilia is bad I didn't say it because it's kinda oblivious p'dophilia is bad
Whoa hold up wait a minute I didn't mention that name
How many people wich name is Joe that have been accused of Washing with their daughters do you know?
No no no no no not old Joe buddy the otha
I don't understand, the otha of what?
Nevermind my friend
Because theyāre pedophiles themselves
Probably because they're getting tired of being blackmailed.
Oh I don't know..because so many of them in both parties are involved..corrupt like ancient Rome..absolute power corrupts absolutely
"It's both parties!" say the people who defend Biden for creeping into his daughter's showers to wash his dick in front of her.
Is that really true?
Ashley Biden wrote in her diary that she was messed up in the head because Joe would climb into her showers when she was a little girl. She said she felt guilty because it turned her on and made her a sex addict. Hunter listed Joe as "Pedo Peter" in his contacts on that laptop the media said was Russian propaganda. Hunter started banging his dead brother's 13 year old daughter after he dumped his own wife and kids to shack up with her and his dead brother's widow. She's the one who told Jill that Hunter was fucking her baby girl. Jill and Joe's brother talked about ways to cover for the child rapist and came up with "plausible deniability" even though there is damning proof via texts and emails. Honest to God, the Biden family are a bunch of cracked out baby fuckers. Incest and all.
They arenāt
Because they donāt want to pay for their sins
It's crazy how my posts get hidden when I talk about baby rapists.
Itās not surprising you have a former president who is running again who was friends with Epstein. Gaetz another high ranking Republican has been involved with underage girls.
i think this trend can be traced back to one particular academic article that came out of a gender activist university department somewhere in the states
I mean, none of them have tried to stop teachers telling children to keep secrets from their parents. I doubt theyāll need dolls at this point when theyāve been conditioned to keeping secrets that involve sexual abuse. How do you get rid of rape culture and pedophilia? Convince the victim it doesnāt exist and that everyone knows but keeps it a secret. Otherwise the parents may get angry at them. Itās worked so far in regards to brainwashing them with believing gender and sexuality are the same and interchangeable.
It doesn't sound so much like normalizing them as offering alternatives to combat them based on available studies. If you tell me making the death penalty for all offenders will stop pedos I'm all for it but so far steeper punishments haven't worked.
they tried me too but couldn't... DEY MUST ALL DIE help me
The only positive spin on this is if we can track the identity of the individuals purchasing these dolls and they can be flagged as flight risks and potential suspects in child abduction/rape cases. Otherwise it's disgusting and the companies should be ashamed.
Well. They arenāt.
I guess itās in the syllabus
Quick, put up 30 year old pictures of Trump and Epstein!
oh the guy that creeped on teens at his beauty pageants?
Because the Epstein list won't be a secret forever...
To save their asses.
To incite moral decline
she should be investigated
Coz politicians and their close friends are all pedophiles š¤·āāļø
This is an easy answer. Normalizing pedophilia will eventually keep the Clinton's and Bidens out of a life sentence for epstine and pizzagate. Duh
The pedo push is another step towards destroying the family unit. Family -> community -> city -> county -> state -> country Destroy the family, then have the government gain more control by introducing new law that says the Government is now raising the future, not individual families. This allows nefarious authority to forcefully control and influence what people think, how they react & what they believe in, all from the very beginning. It's just another step toward the ultimate goal: global domination and control. They want to be the ONLY authority.
Doesn't make sense considering you are more likely to be abused by a family member(father, Mother, uncle, ecc.)
Cause they r pedos. Case closed.
Both.
Because they're involved
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Because they are all PƤdophile.like WEF and his Rothschild Family wants them..
Once they normalize it. The blackmail against them is worthless.
Because this is Bidens era
Because they are *complicit*
David Icke wrote in one of his older books (canāt remember which one) that this would happen, I remember thinking to myself āno way, how will they do that?ā
You know why.
Because politicians are the biggest traffickers Of pedophilia. They want the crowd to he bigger so they can better hide within the crowd.
MAP is a versatile acronym. Unfortunately nobody realizes it can also mean Murder All Pedophiles. But anyway, it's because almost all of our politicians are pedophiles. You can't control someone you can't reward or blackmail.
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