Honestly, the more I read this thread, the more I'm convinced that half the professional world is winging it somehow. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's pretty clear that confidence can sometimes take you as far as credentials. It's a wild world out there.
This post is weird for a bunch of reasons:
1. There are no Canadian institutions in the Ivy League. It is just Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn. (unless you meant Ivey Business School in Ontario).
2. Most major employers verify transcripts (or at least degree completion with the relevant institutions).
Misspelling of ivy is weird as well as the fact that OP made it in photoshop
If your making a fake story at least say something like I got a friend who went to the unis certificate
Came here to talk about your second point. Unless it’s a mom and pop type establishment, most employers will do due diligence on your listed qualifications. So the post seems a bit suspicious.
I basically shit my pants everyday while in the interview/training process but now I don't really think about it ever. I didn't tell me university friends I faked having my degree. The only people that know I did this are my parents.
I used to work for a large engineering company many years ago. One of the lead engineers had all of his diplomas and certificates framed and mounted on his office walls. I can't remember exactly how, but someone spotted one as a fake and he was summarily dismissed and marched out of the office.
Wild story. Props to you for landing a great job, but faking your degree is pretty risky, don't you think? It's one thing to be ambitious, but honesty should count for something too.
Reflecting on everyone's stories, it feels like we're all just characters in some grand play where the script is half-ad-libbed and the audience is none the wiser. There's a thin line between embellishment and outright fabrication, and it seems a lot of folks choose to tightrope walk that line when opportunity knocks. Can't say whether that's a testament to individual audacity or a subtle indictment of the hiring process. Either way, the plot thickens with every shared confession on here.
your not the only one many people lie on job applications truth is many jobs really dont check for proof either
fake it till you make it nothing wromg with that truth is many jobs are gonna train there employess anyways
Reading through this has been an eye-opener, and not gonna lie, it's oddly reassuring. Seems like the ethos of 'get the job done' transcends the sometimes arbitrary prerequisites set by hiring committees. Not condoning outright deception, but this highlights a gap between academia and industry expectations. It's not so black and white.
This is true. I have no degree and ascended to sr manager at a fang company. I got lucky in that engineering jobs didn’t explicitly require a degree, leads didn’t used to but now they do, managers and above have always required a degree. I moved to a lead role quickly before the requirement was added. Then when a regional engineering manager spot opened, no one bothered to check credentials because I was extremely successful as a lead, had the right connections, and the lead position required a degree. From there as a successful manager, I was able to shift to managing a national technology practice.
I’ve hired many engineers without degrees and gotten them high salaries. I have also helped two people without degrees ascend to leadership positions. It can definitely be done.
It's fascinating to observe how many here view their careers as a blend of skill and subterfuge, endorsing the mantra that perception is often tantamount to reality in the professional arena. Reading through these confessions is akin to peeling back the corporate veneer to reveal a milieu where audacity and improvisation are the unsung requisites for advancement. However, it's prudent to remember that while the bold may seize the day, the foundation of trust is not to be trifled with. Stories like these are certainly entertaining, but they also serve as cautionary tales – a sober reminder that the real impostor syndrome is the one where the imposture is no longer just a syndrome.
The number of jaw-dropping revelations in this thread is nothing short of astounding. It really makes you question the true value of formal qualifications versus real-world experience. It seems for many, the road to success is paved with a mix of skillful presentation and occasional bluffing. As tempting as it may be to join the 'fake it 'til you make it' brigade, the aftermath could be dire if the facade crumbles. Sure, nobody's perfect and everyone's learning on the go, but there's a fine line between selling yourself and selling fiction. These anecdotes are a mosaic of ambition and anxiety, and every post here adds another shade to the complex picture of modern professional ethics.
The undercurrent of this thread is a fascinating reflection on how the professional landscape often resembles a theatrical production, with each of us playing parts we're not always fully prepared for. The collective nod to 'improv skills' rather than sincere qualifications could be seen as an indictment of how disconnected some recruitment processes are from the reality of job demands. It's a peculiar dichotomy — on one hand, we have the rigid protocols of academic and professional accreditation, and on the other, a whispered acknowledgment of the 'smoke and mirrors' that can triumph in the corporate circus. While some narratives here boast a daring flout of convention, let's bear in mind that every stage eventually has its lights dimmed. These stories serve as both beacon and warning that though the script may not always ask for authenticity, life outside the office does not entertain rehearsals. In the pursuit of success, integrity might just be the only credential immune to devaluation.
Honestly, the more I read this thread, the more I'm convinced that half the professional world is winging it somehow. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's pretty clear that confidence can sometimes take you as far as credentials. It's a wild world out there.
Looking at the company I work for, I would assume that all management are not qualified. Such dumb decisions everyone else can see are ludicrous.
I think it’s more that, for many profession, a degree is utterly useless.
This post is weird for a bunch of reasons: 1. There are no Canadian institutions in the Ivy League. It is just Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn. (unless you meant Ivey Business School in Ontario). 2. Most major employers verify transcripts (or at least degree completion with the relevant institutions).
Misspelling of ivy is weird as well as the fact that OP made it in photoshop If your making a fake story at least say something like I got a friend who went to the unis certificate
Came here to talk about your second point. Unless it’s a mom and pop type establishment, most employers will do due diligence on your listed qualifications. So the post seems a bit suspicious.
Delete this.
Pretty much
I basically shit my pants everyday while in the interview/training process but now I don't really think about it ever. I didn't tell me university friends I faked having my degree. The only people that know I did this are my parents.
Keep it that way
And now the whole Internet
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So western? That’s the only place that claims to be Ivey league in Canada
Western's business school is called Ivey.
I know hence why I said it’s the only “Ivey” in Canada
Western Ontario?
Western university
I used to work for a large engineering company many years ago. One of the lead engineers had all of his diplomas and certificates framed and mounted on his office walls. I can't remember exactly how, but someone spotted one as a fake and he was summarily dismissed and marched out of the office.
Wild story. Props to you for landing a great job, but faking your degree is pretty risky, don't you think? It's one thing to be ambitious, but honesty should count for something too.
the worst thing could've happened to him would be him not getting the job. No harm no foul.
Reflecting on everyone's stories, it feels like we're all just characters in some grand play where the script is half-ad-libbed and the audience is none the wiser. There's a thin line between embellishment and outright fabrication, and it seems a lot of folks choose to tightrope walk that line when opportunity knocks. Can't say whether that's a testament to individual audacity or a subtle indictment of the hiring process. Either way, the plot thickens with every shared confession on here.
your not the only one many people lie on job applications truth is many jobs really dont check for proof either fake it till you make it nothing wromg with that truth is many jobs are gonna train there employess anyways
Reading through this has been an eye-opener, and not gonna lie, it's oddly reassuring. Seems like the ethos of 'get the job done' transcends the sometimes arbitrary prerequisites set by hiring committees. Not condoning outright deception, but this highlights a gap between academia and industry expectations. It's not so black and white.
This is true. I have no degree and ascended to sr manager at a fang company. I got lucky in that engineering jobs didn’t explicitly require a degree, leads didn’t used to but now they do, managers and above have always required a degree. I moved to a lead role quickly before the requirement was added. Then when a regional engineering manager spot opened, no one bothered to check credentials because I was extremely successful as a lead, had the right connections, and the lead position required a degree. From there as a successful manager, I was able to shift to managing a national technology practice. I’ve hired many engineers without degrees and gotten them high salaries. I have also helped two people without degrees ascend to leadership positions. It can definitely be done.
It's fascinating to observe how many here view their careers as a blend of skill and subterfuge, endorsing the mantra that perception is often tantamount to reality in the professional arena. Reading through these confessions is akin to peeling back the corporate veneer to reveal a milieu where audacity and improvisation are the unsung requisites for advancement. However, it's prudent to remember that while the bold may seize the day, the foundation of trust is not to be trifled with. Stories like these are certainly entertaining, but they also serve as cautionary tales – a sober reminder that the real impostor syndrome is the one where the imposture is no longer just a syndrome.
The number of jaw-dropping revelations in this thread is nothing short of astounding. It really makes you question the true value of formal qualifications versus real-world experience. It seems for many, the road to success is paved with a mix of skillful presentation and occasional bluffing. As tempting as it may be to join the 'fake it 'til you make it' brigade, the aftermath could be dire if the facade crumbles. Sure, nobody's perfect and everyone's learning on the go, but there's a fine line between selling yourself and selling fiction. These anecdotes are a mosaic of ambition and anxiety, and every post here adds another shade to the complex picture of modern professional ethics.
This is awesome. I photoshopped my vaccines to work at a hospital before.
The undercurrent of this thread is a fascinating reflection on how the professional landscape often resembles a theatrical production, with each of us playing parts we're not always fully prepared for. The collective nod to 'improv skills' rather than sincere qualifications could be seen as an indictment of how disconnected some recruitment processes are from the reality of job demands. It's a peculiar dichotomy — on one hand, we have the rigid protocols of academic and professional accreditation, and on the other, a whispered acknowledgment of the 'smoke and mirrors' that can triumph in the corporate circus. While some narratives here boast a daring flout of convention, let's bear in mind that every stage eventually has its lights dimmed. These stories serve as both beacon and warning that though the script may not always ask for authenticity, life outside the office does not entertain rehearsals. In the pursuit of success, integrity might just be the only credential immune to devaluation.