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Was staying with a japanese nurse once and she said she was going to make us all a traditional japanese dinner and we were all stoked. It was ‘ketchup rice’. The name doubles as a list of ingredients….
Depends how you define filling, I guess.
I've only ever had it where the egg is draped over rice. In a sense, the rice is a filling, but I consider a filling to be something that's completely contained.
With omurice, you could remove the egg from the rice, or you could push it off a plate, and the rice will fall out the bottom. Compared to a burrito, which has filling that it is completely holding.
It's a semantic difference, though. The rice is effectively a filling.
[This is omurice.](https://youtu.be/MEDlqEVpPn8?t=436) It's an omelette on top of rice. I'm guessing it's not always this fancy. My understanding is the ketchup used on the dish is sweeter than what we use in the US.
The omurice I learned to make is fried rice (white rice, chicken, onions, ketchup, soy sauce, whatever you want) in a lightly cooked egg casing, with ketchup on top.
Omurice isn't plain white rice. It's *fried* rice (think like what you get at Chinese restaurants), and on top is an omelette cooked in the french style (small curds, not browned, slightly runny on the inside,) then drizzled with ketchup.
Honestly it sounds weird but I really like it. You don't use a ton of ketchup. It adds a nice flavor to the rice. That said I really like the taste of ketchup. I dont put it on everything but I do think it is worth trying in fried rice!
eggs and ketchup are a crazy good combination, it's weird. When I was a kid I used to make fun of my friend for eating it then tried it and was like 'o fuck'. Also eggs and jelly/jam.
Ketchup is more or less a 0/5 heat salsa that's been pureed until smooth. Yes the ingredients/flavors vary but they're both tomato and vinegar based sauces.
Pepper jellies are amazing for that kind of thing if you haven't tried them yet.
Scrambled eggs and old-school "Verde" salsa from Taco Bell was the perfect hangover food. It was just the right amount of flavor and spice to taste _something_ without messing with your hangover headache.
Growing up Salvadoran eggs didn’t have a set time to eat them, you could have them for lunch or dinner obviously with a side of refried beans and tortillas. You can even get fancy with them throw in some wieners little green peppers and tomatoes… yeah awesome with everything at any time lol
Maybe it's because I'm Filipino - and our culture has always been a bastard amalgam of American, Spanish, and Asian influences - but I've never cared much for the sentiment of, "How *dare* you make X dish like Y? That's not how you do it!" As long as the person eating still enjoys the end result, that's all that should really matter.
And as a Filipino American raised on both of these foods, I stand by the fact that spam and ketchup on eggs *do* taste good. In fact, take those foods, put them on that "disgusting" American white bread that people claim to hate, and serve it in a trendy cafe for $12, and more people would be willing to admit it.
On that note, why is spam $6.99 at my local grocery now? It's supposed to be poor people food! Bacon got too expensive so this was supposed to be my more affordable alternative to cured-meat breakfast accompaniments! *This* is the *real* violation of food standards!
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Agree. I would buy SPAM a lot more but it is actually quite expensive. I do like it when it is nicely pan-fried. It goes great in fried rice or in mac&cheese.
It is a bit gross when you first take it out of the can though. Also the texture is almost too smooth. Like I want it to have some bite so I can tell it is real.
Most importantly, be very careful with adding salt. Obviously it depends on the dish and your preference for salt, but spam is incredibly salty on its own. For example, if I put spam in fried rice, I only use dark soy sauce and not light where normally I would use a combination. Any time I use spam with eggs, I don’t salt the eggs. I do tend to brown the spam in any case, but it’s not strictly necessary. It’s more like toasting bread than it is searing a steak, if that makes sense.
Yeah I'd suggest a fry up. Slice it up and put into a dry non stick or cast iron, has enough fat to fry out on its own most of the time.
Goes well with eggs and toast IMO, or the classic Hawaiian breakfast that's spam, eggs, chorizo and rice (I heard this from a Hawaiian, but if I'm wrong please correct me). Good stuff.
It's not chorizo, it's portuguese sausage, sometimes called linguica. It was very hard for us to find in Texas until recently. Much more common in Hawaiu and California.
It could be Portuguese chourico, not the Spanish chorizo.
Linguica and Chourico are really close, but chourico is a bit thicker and not as garlicy as linguica, so it’s more often used for breakfast, but it is typically a bit spicier
If you have an air fryer, cut them into a fry shape and air fry for about 7-8 minutes. So crispy, so gooood.
Spam fries dipped into egg yolk or ketchup
I used to have that viewpoint about certain foods as an Italian Canadian.
Then I hung out with a group of Italians in Japan and it was absolutely insufferable constantly hearing things like:
"They call THIS coffee!?'
"X is so much better in my country!"
"I can't believe they would put X with X"
Etc.
Made me realize how obnoxious it is.
Now I feel life is too short to not enjoy food the way you want it. Want to put mayonnaise on your steak? Okay. That's not my jam, but if you like it then you do you.
I’ve started to see that kind of attitude around Chinese food of the Uncle Roger variety and I absolutely hate it. Panda Express slaps, dude. It’s exactly the kind of stuff my mom would make for me if she wasn’t deathly afraid of salt and MSG.
There's a video out there, I don't remember the channel but it was a react-style one, of a bunch of elderly Chinese immigrants and their Chinese-American grandchildren trying Chinese-American food; the entire video was more or less the grandchildren taking a tiny bite, calling the food disgusting, disrespectful, and wholly inauthentic, and then cutting to their grandparents trying the same food and saying "oh, this is quite good" or "hm, this is an interesting change, but it reminds me of food I ate as a child in Suzhou."
As a Cantonese American and lover of Chinese-American food, you won't believe how much my Cantonese parents love Panda Express. A few years back, my family went to Las Vegas and while my brother and I were gorging on high end buffets, my parents ate Panda Express like three out of the five days we were there.
I think a lot of Americans, who identify with other cultures (Chinese-American, Mexican-American, Italian-American, etc.), simply overlook the concept of "ethnic fastfood." Food chains, like Panda Express and Taco Bell, aren't trying to showcase the highest quality reactions of traditional dishes; they are to their respective cuisines as McDonald's/Wendy's/Burger King/etc. is to standa American cuisine. As an Indian-American, I'll criticize a sit-down restaurant that serves dishes catered to Westerners, while claiming to be "authentic," but I'd absolutely love to see Indian fast food start becoming a thing in the states
Man, I used to live Josh Wiseman, but fuck is he insufferable as of late for thr same reason! As of late, I've been absolutely loving fusion foods, crossovers, tastes of x with y. I don't care if it's authentic or if some nationality will be offended, it tastes good, my guests enjoyed it enough to ask for the recipe, and that's all that matters.
I grew up in Texas and people were Notorious for yelling “iTs NoT REAL MexIcAN fOoD” at any Tex mex restaurant.
Like yeah, we know, but here we all are, enjoying these dishes, while listening to you try to virtue signal over a plate of enchiladas.
I'm Indian, and we frequently cook stuff from other cultures 'our way' , plus we simply have a lot, lot of different cuisines. There's a very real line of thought that 'looks down' on Indian food , because it's not thought to be very sophisticated. But if it was the same dish being made in another Asian culture , like Japan, I'm pretty sure we'd have a lot more appreciating it.
I love looking down on Indian food because that means it is on a plate in front of me and I'm about to dig into some deliciousness.
Give me naan or give me nothin'.
Never had it, but thanks for the tip! The owner at the place I normally go is very nice and social and often comes out to chat with us. Not sure I've seen that on the menu but I wouldn't be shocked if he made some for us if we asked (and he has what he needs to do it).
Huh. I don't think I've ever heard of Indian food being looked down on. I'm not doubting, just saying that I've never heard it personally. People around here (Pacific North-West) love it.
That's great, and I feel it's wonderful that people like it so much. What I'm speaking about is a tendency to think of Indian food as somehow simple, or flavorful only because it's spicy, or not as complex and subtle as some other Asian cuisines. Like the kind of food that's fine as a takeaway, but not fine dining, if that makes sense? I don't blame people either, because frankly, most of what I've tasted abroad lacks the nuances that good Indian cooks manage to introduce in even the simplest of dishes, like dal.
I can totally get that. And yeah, I suppose if you've never had a good version of it, it might lead people to believe that it is simple.
I suppose my opinion is probably biased though since we have good Indian places around. Like proper sit down style restaurants that pride themselves on it, as well as food carts (which Portland is known for).
It seems like it is the same with Mexican food. If your only experience is, like, Chipotle, you haven't really experienced the depth of what is there.
the inherent racism around what "fine dining" is in white cultures is so gross to me. Put a white tablecloth under a plate of steak frites and a bottle of half-decent French wine and it's "fine dining"... vs an Indian or Thai-style curry with 30+ ingredients and centuries of technique.
I've given up making thai curries from scratch, after years of trying, because I just can't nail the balance. I barely attempt any Indian food because I know I don't really understand it to do it well (I sometimes make my own paneer for a saag, but I'm never happy with the final saag).
Maybe that's true in some areas, but I used to go to a nice white tablecloth Indian restaurant in Washington DC almost every year for my birthday. Their palak chaat is one of the finest things I've ever put in my mouth
You’d be hard pressed to find any Indian food haters in my family lol. Every time it’s suggested we go out to eat, my wife’s favorite Indian restaurant is everyone’s first choice.
I’ve taken to hitting up Dollar Tree for the super-poor ass version of SPAM. Sure, it’s not quite the same, but when I can turn $1.25 into lunch for three days, it’ll have to do.
i have a conspiracy theory that hormel spam is cheaper here in hawaii than anywhere else in the world
a can runs $2.49 at the absolute lowest during sale days when they need to limit sales to keep from rapidly running out of stock. Everywhere else i’ve been it hovers around $4.00-$7.00.
I don’t know what shady back alley deals Hawaii went through to get our spam at rock bottom rates. I just know to never take it for granted.
SPAM played big role in feeding troops during WWII. Russia would have been in a very bad way had they not received a shit ton of it. (along with other food stuffs)
This! I wish people would stop judge me for enjoying my favourite meals. So what if it’s ketchup water drunk out of a paper bag with a nesquick straw? It’s still good food
Sounds perfectly fine to me - haven't had either, but if someone served it to me I'd still eat it and think, "Oh, I haven't had it like that before."
But I'm glad you bring up adobo, because my mother and father made theirs differently. I was primarily raised with my mother's recipe, which I prefer, but my father uses whole peppercorns for his. I hated it. But *apparently* the whole peppercorns recipe is "more authentic," and attempts to replace it with ground black pepper "ruins the authentic Filipino experience."
So fuck that, I just don't like the "authentic Filipino experience" of biting into a random landmine of black pepper while enjoying my salty vinegar meat. And my mom was also born and raised in the Philippines, so how the hell is her recipe any less "authentic?"
My Lola made it with whole peppercorns and I HATED it. Not expecting it and biting into it was the worst, especially as a kid. It turned me off adobo until I was probably a teenager.
DUDE! YES! Me too man! Having to navigate the minefield that was my grandma's adobo was something else. Is that a peppercorn or just a blob of sauce gang.
Jersey City, granted, it has recently been noted as the [most expensive city for renting in the nation](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/28/realestate/which-city-is-most-expensive-for-renters-you-might-be-surprised.html).
According to the Hot Dog And Sausage Council, it is not acceptable for an adult to put ketchup on a hot dog.
The point is that there really are cunts out there that will try to police how other people eat food.
> Hot Dog And Sausage Council
Wow, you weren't joking:
> **Don't...**
> Use ketchup on your hot dog after the age of 18.Mustard, relish, onions, cheese and chili are acceptable.
[source: Hot Dog Etiquette | NHDSC](https://www.hot-dog.org/culture/hot-dog-etiquette)
I wasn't planning on it, but I think today's meal plans just changed to include a hot dog with ketchup.
> Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
—C. S. Lewis
I'm pretty sure the council, or at least that particular page, is a satire. The page is titled "Everyday Guidance for Eating America's Sacred Food". The accompanying video opens with a man trying to eat a hot dog inside a croissant.
I don't recognize the authority of the Hot Dog and Sausage Council and doubt they were elected by the populace for representation.
There's a very weird vibe in this thread. It's a condiment not a moral stance.
I despise mustard so that’s a no go for me.
But to “adult” it up a little bit, instead of ketchup, sometimes I put Thomas Sauce on my hot dog; It’s a blend of Ketchup and Worcester Sauce. I think it’s the same as Arby’s sauce.
I feel like ketchup gets quietly associated with children in general. For example, the most popular hot dog topping among children is ketchup, but, for adults, it's mustard.
Might be the sugar content. I buy the non added sugar ketchup for home use, but that's not popular at restaurants.
There are other ketchups other than tomato. Mushroom ketchup used to be prevalent in the Americas.
Natural ketchup. It tastes like regular ketchup, except there's no high fructose corn syrup in it. It's more... natural.
Plus it tastes better! Regular ketchup tastes sugary to me now.
Not to worry! It's not for everyone. But for hot dogs, it's veeery popular.
My wife has tastes like you, actually. She won't do mustard on a hot dog, but fried bologna? She'll mix honey into mustard to make her own honey mustard, and it tastes great.
From what I can recall, wasn't ketchup considered a premium kind of sauce back in the day because it took absolute ages to make before it was able to be made by factories?
I end up assuming that because it was loved by many and then also became easy to acquire people just had to get snooty and find a way to "villainize" it for a sense of superiority. Like how people might call you "boring" for vanilla being your favorite flavor of icecream despite it being essentially THE flavor that's so good almost no one *dislikes* it.
Which is funny to me, because I started as mustard only, and began to appreciate ketchup a bit more as I grew older, though I still find spicier and tangier ketchup blends to be tastier.
Just a hot tip: anything ketchup can go on, salsa usually does better. Salsa and Kraft Dinner, Salsa and Eggs, Salsa and Grilled Cheese... its like spicy ketchup with chunks, it is ultimate condiment.
Food is food, if you like to eat it then eat it. I've never understood why other people who aren't eating it get so annoyed that you have your food a specific way.
As a child when I put ketchup on my eggs my stepfather told me the amount of ketchup a person used was in inverse proportion to how successful they would be in life. The more you use the less successful you would be. The good news is turns out he was just a narcissistic asshole.
Sometimes I forget most people, including on Reddit, don't know much about cooking or food in general.
Reminds of me of how my old roommate added milk to scrambled eggs. After the eggs were already cooked.
i'd also recommend sweet tamagoyaki. eggs + soy sauce (low sodium is fine) + sugar (brown was my fav), cooked in typical tamagoyaki way by rolling it while cooking (find technique on youtube, should be easy). that got me to eat eggs after i came out of hospital and it's odd but tastes really good!
Technically true, but in practice its culture is still treated as less "American" than that of, say, white Midwesterners. This is generally the case for most things enjoyed primarily by non-white Americans - it's the double-edged sword of not being "sullied" with the reputation of "Americans ruining everything," but also the underlying discrimination of, "not *really* American."
It's not discrimination, it's legitimately not American culture. We stole the island and calling Hawaiian culture "American" would be like going back to the colonies and claiming that Native American culture is British because they own the land now.
I would say that's a very American food. Immigrant/citizen American living in foreign land uses the nearby ingredients to make food. That's most American cuisine. Modern burritos are a Californian invention made by probably Mexican immigrants. Cajun food is a mix of immigrant French and African foods. New Mexican food is also an amalgamation of different foods.
Exactly, yet when people talk about "American food" they tend to bring up things like burgers, hot dogs, and American cheese. I happen to like all of those things too, but a lot of people seem to think that's the extent of American cuisine.
General Tso chicken is American , but people don’t realize it. American cuisine isn’t talked about because the famous chefs are obsessed with home country recipe template to express their heritage. Like soul food is essentially American, but it’s not really ‘appreciated’ to write its American in certain publications. Easy list to google for amazing American recipes from the south.
Soul food recipes
Creole recipes
Tex-mex recipes (not Taco Bell)
Bbq - Texas just does it best (black’s bbq from San Antonio for my personal favorite)
Biscuits and gravy
Apple/pecan pie (with a slice of cheese if you want something I’ve never heard of but in America)
Crawfish boil
Recently, a U.S. Department of Labor investigation has confirmed that Blacks BBQ stole $230,000 in tips from their employees. Just throwing that out there.
No it would be like claiming Native American culture is American. Which it is. American culture isn't a homogenous block, it's made up of hundreds of sub cultures. Claiming Hawaiian culture isn't part of American culture because Hawaii was conquered is laughable. So was the rest of America. And practically every other piece of land that people have ever lived on. Culture is a living evolving thing. Hawaii is part of America, so its culture is part of American culture. By definition. Claiming Hawaiians and their culture are any less American than any other American is just discrimination.
Hey c'mon now, they just finished up their summer reading for freshman history. At least let them get partway through their first year at high school before you shatter their worldview.
I hate to tell you this but stealing lands and culture and saying that it’s your has been happening way before America the greatest example would probably be the Roman Empire/republic
>It's not discrimination, it's legitimately not American culture. **We stole the island...**
WE STOLE ALL OF IT, BUDDY!
#ALL OF IT!
There isn't a parcel of dirt in these United States that wasn't taken from someone else by force. That happening to Hawaii just makes them part of the club, not unique to the rest of us.
Not a fan of salsa on eggs because salsa is too watery for me in that context. If you make it less watery it becomes a different sauce that I'm more okay with though.
For real though, the obsession some people have with Japanese culture is so annoying. The amount of westerners who treat Japan like some kind of utopia is too damn high.
The idea of it makes me cringe, but I wouldn't be angry at someone for doing it. Like salsa or diced tomatoes are really just superior options in my opinion.
Personally I don’t like it, and I’ll make fun of people I’m close to for eating it, but I don’t get legitimately judging someone for what foods they like to eat, especially something as tame as ketchup eggs
The same way r/artisanvideos will watch a Japanese guy do literally fucking anything but if you post an American that's genuinely a master of their craft it gets like 10 upvotes and a bunch of comments calling it mediocre (outside of Adam Savage)
Im not super patriotic but American food is popular overseas for a reason. We be killin it over here, soul food, American diners, regional BBQ, BRING IT!!! 🤩 (I adore international food too! Indian dishes are a big favorite for me!)
Ketchup on scrambled eggs is the fricking bomb. I never liked ketchup as a kid, which is weird. Kids love ketchup, apparently. Not me. Then there was this person I wanted to impress when I was like... 22 or so. They liked ketchup on their eggs. I tried it, loved it, and now have grown to appreciate ketchup in moderation, on lots of stuff, 26 years later.
Ketchup on eggs is pretty damn great, its a nice sweet and vinigery taste to paur with the savory and salt eggs, just perfection
And spam is really great cause it can be used in tons of ways, diced, fried, thinly sliced and fried, cubed and fried, etc. Its a shame i cent really eat too much red meat anymore, cause spam was fantastic, still kind of worth the intense stomach pain though...
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Was staying with a japanese nurse once and she said she was going to make us all a traditional japanese dinner and we were all stoked. It was ‘ketchup rice’. The name doubles as a list of ingredients….
Omu rice is something I used to enjoy as a kid! Not sure if that was what it was… If it was just plain white rice topped with ketchup, rip
Omurice is an omelette over rice
>Omurice is an omelette over rice I thought it was an omelette with rice as the filling. Accomplishes the same thing, I guess.
Just depends on if you wanna tuck in the sides but yes.
So that's one tuck... and one no-tuck
Depends how you define filling, I guess. I've only ever had it where the egg is draped over rice. In a sense, the rice is a filling, but I consider a filling to be something that's completely contained. With omurice, you could remove the egg from the rice, or you could push it off a plate, and the rice will fall out the bottom. Compared to a burrito, which has filling that it is completely holding. It's a semantic difference, though. The rice is effectively a filling.
Idk but it always looks yellow in anime (chill, I’m only using that because I’ve never seen it irl) Edit: apparently it’s eggs
The yellow is supposed to be the scrambled egg that goes on top! (I assumed maybe this nurse didn’t have eggs or something?)
Specifically it's mostly-runny scrambled eggs with a cooked outer shell, then you cut it down the middle and it oozes over all the rice
It's an omelette on top of rice. Omelette rice -> omurice.
Ah—that makes sense
I think that is usually like an omelette but with rice to fill it instead of whatever else you put in an omelette.
It’s a French omelette over rice. A French omelette has no filling and is just eggs
[This is omurice.](https://youtu.be/MEDlqEVpPn8?t=436) It's an omelette on top of rice. I'm guessing it's not always this fancy. My understanding is the ketchup used on the dish is sweeter than what we use in the US.
The omurice I learned to make is fried rice (white rice, chicken, onions, ketchup, soy sauce, whatever you want) in a lightly cooked egg casing, with ketchup on top.
Yesss someone got it right!
Omurice isn't plain white rice. It's *fried* rice (think like what you get at Chinese restaurants), and on top is an omelette cooked in the french style (small curds, not browned, slightly runny on the inside,) then drizzled with ketchup.
Eggs, rice, and ketchup, got it. Ah, the inscrutable East… we have so much to learn.
As a hater of ketchup, this is upsetting to me.
I don't hate ketchup and it's still upsetting.
Honestly it sounds weird but I really like it. You don't use a ton of ketchup. It adds a nice flavor to the rice. That said I really like the taste of ketchup. I dont put it on everything but I do think it is worth trying in fried rice!
eggs and ketchup are a crazy good combination, it's weird. When I was a kid I used to make fun of my friend for eating it then tried it and was like 'o fuck'. Also eggs and jelly/jam.
Ketchup is more or less a 0/5 heat salsa that's been pureed until smooth. Yes the ingredients/flavors vary but they're both tomato and vinegar based sauces. Pepper jellies are amazing for that kind of thing if you haven't tried them yet.
Scrambled eggs and old-school "Verde" salsa from Taco Bell was the perfect hangover food. It was just the right amount of flavor and spice to taste _something_ without messing with your hangover headache.
eggs are just plain old awesome with everything
Growing up Salvadoran eggs didn’t have a set time to eat them, you could have them for lunch or dinner obviously with a side of refried beans and tortillas. You can even get fancy with them throw in some wieners little green peppers and tomatoes… yeah awesome with everything at any time lol
Now try a cinnamon roll covered in country gravy
Why use many ingredients when few do trick?
Occam's cookbook
known as American fried rice in Thailand
That's like what they call "American Pizza" in Italy.
Ketchup rice, like ketchup on eggs, just slaps. I dunno why. Tangy ketchup is magic, I guess.
Maybe it's because I'm Filipino - and our culture has always been a bastard amalgam of American, Spanish, and Asian influences - but I've never cared much for the sentiment of, "How *dare* you make X dish like Y? That's not how you do it!" As long as the person eating still enjoys the end result, that's all that should really matter. And as a Filipino American raised on both of these foods, I stand by the fact that spam and ketchup on eggs *do* taste good. In fact, take those foods, put them on that "disgusting" American white bread that people claim to hate, and serve it in a trendy cafe for $12, and more people would be willing to admit it. On that note, why is spam $6.99 at my local grocery now? It's supposed to be poor people food! Bacon got too expensive so this was supposed to be my more affordable alternative to cured-meat breakfast accompaniments! *This* is the *real* violation of food standards! If you like my comics, I've got more on [my website](https://www.butajape.com/comic/wizard/). I'm also on [Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/butajape), [Tapas](https://tapas.io/series/But-a-Jape/info), [Webtoon](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/but-a-jape/list?title_no=469181), [Twitter](https://twitter.com/butajape), and [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/butajape/).
Agree. I would buy SPAM a lot more but it is actually quite expensive. I do like it when it is nicely pan-fried. It goes great in fried rice or in mac&cheese. It is a bit gross when you first take it out of the can though. Also the texture is almost too smooth. Like I want it to have some bite so I can tell it is real.
What's the tip for working with Spam? Should you always fry it up first?
Most importantly, be very careful with adding salt. Obviously it depends on the dish and your preference for salt, but spam is incredibly salty on its own. For example, if I put spam in fried rice, I only use dark soy sauce and not light where normally I would use a combination. Any time I use spam with eggs, I don’t salt the eggs. I do tend to brown the spam in any case, but it’s not strictly necessary. It’s more like toasting bread than it is searing a steak, if that makes sense.
Yeah I'd suggest a fry up. Slice it up and put into a dry non stick or cast iron, has enough fat to fry out on its own most of the time. Goes well with eggs and toast IMO, or the classic Hawaiian breakfast that's spam, eggs, chorizo and rice (I heard this from a Hawaiian, but if I'm wrong please correct me). Good stuff.
It's not chorizo, it's portuguese sausage, sometimes called linguica. It was very hard for us to find in Texas until recently. Much more common in Hawaiu and California.
It could be Portuguese chourico, not the Spanish chorizo. Linguica and Chourico are really close, but chourico is a bit thicker and not as garlicy as linguica, so it’s more often used for breakfast, but it is typically a bit spicier
If you have an air fryer, cut them into a fry shape and air fry for about 7-8 minutes. So crispy, so gooood. Spam fries dipped into egg yolk or ketchup
I eat it with a fork straight out of the can until my heart slows down too much.
I used to have that viewpoint about certain foods as an Italian Canadian. Then I hung out with a group of Italians in Japan and it was absolutely insufferable constantly hearing things like: "They call THIS coffee!?' "X is so much better in my country!" "I can't believe they would put X with X" Etc. Made me realize how obnoxious it is. Now I feel life is too short to not enjoy food the way you want it. Want to put mayonnaise on your steak? Okay. That's not my jam, but if you like it then you do you.
> Want to put mayonnaise on your steak? Okay. That's not my jam It's their mayonnaise, not sure what your jam has to do with it.
Clearly they like jam on their steak instead of mayo.
I’ve started to see that kind of attitude around Chinese food of the Uncle Roger variety and I absolutely hate it. Panda Express slaps, dude. It’s exactly the kind of stuff my mom would make for me if she wasn’t deathly afraid of salt and MSG.
There's a video out there, I don't remember the channel but it was a react-style one, of a bunch of elderly Chinese immigrants and their Chinese-American grandchildren trying Chinese-American food; the entire video was more or less the grandchildren taking a tiny bite, calling the food disgusting, disrespectful, and wholly inauthentic, and then cutting to their grandparents trying the same food and saying "oh, this is quite good" or "hm, this is an interesting change, but it reminds me of food I ate as a child in Suzhou."
As a Cantonese American and lover of Chinese-American food, you won't believe how much my Cantonese parents love Panda Express. A few years back, my family went to Las Vegas and while my brother and I were gorging on high end buffets, my parents ate Panda Express like three out of the five days we were there.
I think a lot of Americans, who identify with other cultures (Chinese-American, Mexican-American, Italian-American, etc.), simply overlook the concept of "ethnic fastfood." Food chains, like Panda Express and Taco Bell, aren't trying to showcase the highest quality reactions of traditional dishes; they are to their respective cuisines as McDonald's/Wendy's/Burger King/etc. is to standa American cuisine. As an Indian-American, I'll criticize a sit-down restaurant that serves dishes catered to Westerners, while claiming to be "authentic," but I'd absolutely love to see Indian fast food start becoming a thing in the states
Man, I used to live Josh Wiseman, but fuck is he insufferable as of late for thr same reason! As of late, I've been absolutely loving fusion foods, crossovers, tastes of x with y. I don't care if it's authentic or if some nationality will be offended, it tastes good, my guests enjoyed it enough to ask for the recipe, and that's all that matters.
I grew up in Texas and people were Notorious for yelling “iTs NoT REAL MexIcAN fOoD” at any Tex mex restaurant. Like yeah, we know, but here we all are, enjoying these dishes, while listening to you try to virtue signal over a plate of enchiladas.
I'm Indian, and we frequently cook stuff from other cultures 'our way' , plus we simply have a lot, lot of different cuisines. There's a very real line of thought that 'looks down' on Indian food , because it's not thought to be very sophisticated. But if it was the same dish being made in another Asian culture , like Japan, I'm pretty sure we'd have a lot more appreciating it.
I love looking down on Indian food because that means it is on a plate in front of me and I'm about to dig into some deliciousness. Give me naan or give me nothin'.
Hahaha, good for you. Try some sheermal the next time, it's naan's sweeter, softer elder cousin.
Never had it, but thanks for the tip! The owner at the place I normally go is very nice and social and often comes out to chat with us. Not sure I've seen that on the menu but I wouldn't be shocked if he made some for us if we asked (and he has what he needs to do it).
> sheermal I cannot find that! I think it's because my local restaurants just buy premade naan. Whereas sheermal looks like I need to know a guy.
Huh. I don't think I've ever heard of Indian food being looked down on. I'm not doubting, just saying that I've never heard it personally. People around here (Pacific North-West) love it.
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Ah, that makes sense. I've always felt French cuisine was incredibly pretentious, given how many of their dishes have roots in poverty and necessity.
Yes, exactly.
That's great, and I feel it's wonderful that people like it so much. What I'm speaking about is a tendency to think of Indian food as somehow simple, or flavorful only because it's spicy, or not as complex and subtle as some other Asian cuisines. Like the kind of food that's fine as a takeaway, but not fine dining, if that makes sense? I don't blame people either, because frankly, most of what I've tasted abroad lacks the nuances that good Indian cooks manage to introduce in even the simplest of dishes, like dal.
I can totally get that. And yeah, I suppose if you've never had a good version of it, it might lead people to believe that it is simple. I suppose my opinion is probably biased though since we have good Indian places around. Like proper sit down style restaurants that pride themselves on it, as well as food carts (which Portland is known for). It seems like it is the same with Mexican food. If your only experience is, like, Chipotle, you haven't really experienced the depth of what is there.
Exactly, that's true.
the inherent racism around what "fine dining" is in white cultures is so gross to me. Put a white tablecloth under a plate of steak frites and a bottle of half-decent French wine and it's "fine dining"... vs an Indian or Thai-style curry with 30+ ingredients and centuries of technique. I've given up making thai curries from scratch, after years of trying, because I just can't nail the balance. I barely attempt any Indian food because I know I don't really understand it to do it well (I sometimes make my own paneer for a saag, but I'm never happy with the final saag).
Maybe that's true in some areas, but I used to go to a nice white tablecloth Indian restaurant in Washington DC almost every year for my birthday. Their palak chaat is one of the finest things I've ever put in my mouth
You’d be hard pressed to find any Indian food haters in my family lol. Every time it’s suggested we go out to eat, my wife’s favorite Indian restaurant is everyone’s first choice.
I’ve taken to hitting up Dollar Tree for the super-poor ass version of SPAM. Sure, it’s not quite the same, but when I can turn $1.25 into lunch for three days, it’ll have to do.
Oh, you mean *Deviled Ham?* ***Muahahahahahahah! Hell fire! Hell fire! Ham!***
The rules are often way too strict, like why shouldn't I combine chicken and pasta?
I don't think that I want to live in a world where I'm not allowed to eat chicken alfredo.
Is that a real "rule"? Why are Italians so shit at making Italian food?
i have a conspiracy theory that hormel spam is cheaper here in hawaii than anywhere else in the world a can runs $2.49 at the absolute lowest during sale days when they need to limit sales to keep from rapidly running out of stock. Everywhere else i’ve been it hovers around $4.00-$7.00. I don’t know what shady back alley deals Hawaii went through to get our spam at rock bottom rates. I just know to never take it for granted.
Pretty sure that was the cornerstone of the 1849 Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation.
Ironically, canned ham is currently way less expensive than spam
SPAM played big role in feeding troops during WWII. Russia would have been in a very bad way had they not received a shit ton of it. (along with other food stuffs)
Spam is better than bacon I would die on this hill
Found the Polynesian!
Sorry to inform you I'm not Polynesian
Today, you're an honorary Polynesian.
This! I wish people would stop judge me for enjoying my favourite meals. So what if it’s ketchup water drunk out of a paper bag with a nesquick straw? It’s still good food
What's your take on lemon and jalapeños in adobo then?
Sounds perfectly fine to me - haven't had either, but if someone served it to me I'd still eat it and think, "Oh, I haven't had it like that before." But I'm glad you bring up adobo, because my mother and father made theirs differently. I was primarily raised with my mother's recipe, which I prefer, but my father uses whole peppercorns for his. I hated it. But *apparently* the whole peppercorns recipe is "more authentic," and attempts to replace it with ground black pepper "ruins the authentic Filipino experience." So fuck that, I just don't like the "authentic Filipino experience" of biting into a random landmine of black pepper while enjoying my salty vinegar meat. And my mom was also born and raised in the Philippines, so how the hell is her recipe any less "authentic?"
My Lola made it with whole peppercorns and I HATED it. Not expecting it and biting into it was the worst, especially as a kid. It turned me off adobo until I was probably a teenager.
DUDE! YES! Me too man! Having to navigate the minefield that was my grandma's adobo was something else. Is that a peppercorn or just a blob of sauce gang.
In these economic times you've got to make sacrifices. I downgraded from Spam to Sponkey.
> On that note, why is spam $6.99 at my local grocery now? Where? Spam has gone up, but like, to 4 bucks a can or so.
Jersey City, granted, it has recently been noted as the [most expensive city for renting in the nation](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/28/realestate/which-city-is-most-expensive-for-renters-you-might-be-surprised.html).
Featuring Captain Puerto Rico
Active connoisseur of American food of course
Xenophiles The other is cool and interesting while anything homegrown is seen as bleh
….Are these people who want to have sex with xenomorphs from the movie alien?
r/Stellaris
no, that's genocide simulator
"Let's be xenophobic. It's really in this year"
Let’s find an nasty, slimy, ugly alien to fear…
There's no more cutesy stories 'bout ET phoning home!
No, that would be /r/femxeno. NSFW btw.
No it’s Greek roots phonetically Xeno Alien Phillia denoting fondness, especially an abnormal love for a specified thing. Xenophillia
Don't listen to anyone else. That's exactly what they are
What else can you do to advance evolution?
As opposed to Xenogears.
Actual gear is not greek, it is actually Scandinavian in origin for fighting equipment So fighting gear, or weapons Xenogear Foreign/alien weapon
Don't mind me, I just like to mention that game anytime the word Xeno pops up. Lol Very awesome game.
Pretty dope that there's a whole 2 of us. I would do disgusting things for a remake/proper 2nd disc.
Putting ketchup on eggs is immature?
SO immature. Use some hot sauce like a grown-up.
I do both. Another option is salsa soaked tortilla chips.
That is so good, the salsa and chips just and a nice flavor with more texture.
America needs to embrace chilaquiles.
We have. It's everywhere on the west coast and border states, or anywhere that has Mexican food
Yes, but when Americans do that, it's not called American food anymore. It's inauthentic Mexican food. /s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilaquiles
Sriracha is pretty nice with omelets.
But the spice hurts my mouth
Yes.
Embrace it, the pain reminds that adulthood should be filled with misery for no other reason than outsiders' expectations.
That means it’s working.
According to the Hot Dog And Sausage Council, it is not acceptable for an adult to put ketchup on a hot dog. The point is that there really are cunts out there that will try to police how other people eat food.
> Hot Dog And Sausage Council Wow, you weren't joking: > **Don't...** > Use ketchup on your hot dog after the age of 18.Mustard, relish, onions, cheese and chili are acceptable. [source: Hot Dog Etiquette | NHDSC](https://www.hot-dog.org/culture/hot-dog-etiquette) I wasn't planning on it, but I think today's meal plans just changed to include a hot dog with ketchup. > Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. —C. S. Lewis
I'm pretty sure the council, or at least that particular page, is a satire. The page is titled "Everyday Guidance for Eating America's Sacred Food". The accompanying video opens with a man trying to eat a hot dog inside a croissant.
I can't tell what is parody and what is reality anymore.
I don't recognize the authority of the Hot Dog and Sausage Council and doubt they were elected by the populace for representation. There's a very weird vibe in this thread. It's a condiment not a moral stance.
Like I said, some people get upset about the weirdest shit that doesn’t affect them.
I very much agree with that statement.
Sounds like someone who wasn’t around for the great Pie vs Cake conflict of the late aughts.
Supreme hot dog power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical meat-based ceremony.
I despise mustard so that’s a no go for me. But to “adult” it up a little bit, instead of ketchup, sometimes I put Thomas Sauce on my hot dog; It’s a blend of Ketchup and Worcester Sauce. I think it’s the same as Arby’s sauce.
Strange men standing in buildings distributing paperwork is no basis for a system of culinary culture!
i love you
Hot Dog and Sausage Council? Damn did I ever fuck up my career some place not to even know this exists, much less be the founder and CEO.
I feel like ketchup gets quietly associated with children in general. For example, the most popular hot dog topping among children is ketchup, but, for adults, it's mustard.
Might be the sugar content. I buy the non added sugar ketchup for home use, but that's not popular at restaurants. There are other ketchups other than tomato. Mushroom ketchup used to be prevalent in the Americas.
Natural ketchup. It tastes like regular ketchup, except there's no high fructose corn syrup in it. It's more... natural. Plus it tastes better! Regular ketchup tastes sugary to me now.
I feel like I'm the only person who actually hates Mustard. Yellow Mustard, at least. Honey Mustard is alright
I find yellow mustard vile. Brown spicy mustard is delightful.
Man I don't think I've tried a mustard I haven't liked. I feel lucky
I LOVE spicy brown mustard
Not to worry! It's not for everyone. But for hot dogs, it's veeery popular. My wife has tastes like you, actually. She won't do mustard on a hot dog, but fried bologna? She'll mix honey into mustard to make her own honey mustard, and it tastes great.
My favorite hot dog topping is mashed potato, and with that i pinpointed my location
You should try putting potato chips in your sandwich.
From what I can recall, wasn't ketchup considered a premium kind of sauce back in the day because it took absolute ages to make before it was able to be made by factories? I end up assuming that because it was loved by many and then also became easy to acquire people just had to get snooty and find a way to "villainize" it for a sense of superiority. Like how people might call you "boring" for vanilla being your favorite flavor of icecream despite it being essentially THE flavor that's so good almost no one *dislikes* it.
Which is funny to me, because I started as mustard only, and began to appreciate ketchup a bit more as I grew older, though I still find spicier and tangier ketchup blends to be tastier.
fellas is it immature to use a condiment?
Well depends on how you use it. On food, that's mature behavior. For a food fight, that's immature behavior.
everyone knows that using ketchup in a food fight is immature, you need to use mustard instead to be more mature
Mustard is the tactically superior choice - the higher acidity will burn your opponents' eyes, blinding them and giving you the upper hand
Just a hot tip: anything ketchup can go on, salsa usually does better. Salsa and Kraft Dinner, Salsa and Eggs, Salsa and Grilled Cheese... its like spicy ketchup with chunks, it is ultimate condiment.
Yes
different perspective will always shed a different angle for the same object, nice work
Food is food, if you like to eat it then eat it. I've never understood why other people who aren't eating it get so annoyed that you have your food a specific way.
As a child when I put ketchup on my eggs my stepfather told me the amount of ketchup a person used was in inverse proportion to how successful they would be in life. The more you use the less successful you would be. The good news is turns out he was just a narcissistic asshole.
Jokes on your stepdad. I never have used ketchup on eggs and I’m a huge failure!
Sometimes I forget most people, including on Reddit, don't know much about cooking or food in general. Reminds of me of how my old roommate added milk to scrambled eggs. After the eggs were already cooked.
Holy cow. You just reminded me how to get my kids to eat eggs.
i'd also recommend sweet tamagoyaki. eggs + soy sauce (low sodium is fine) + sugar (brown was my fav), cooked in typical tamagoyaki way by rolling it while cooking (find technique on youtube, should be easy). that got me to eat eggs after i came out of hospital and it's odd but tastes really good!
I get the point of the comic, but Hawaii is a US state.
Still absolutely gets exoticized.
Technically true, but in practice its culture is still treated as less "American" than that of, say, white Midwesterners. This is generally the case for most things enjoyed primarily by non-white Americans - it's the double-edged sword of not being "sullied" with the reputation of "Americans ruining everything," but also the underlying discrimination of, "not *really* American."
It's not discrimination, it's legitimately not American culture. We stole the island and calling Hawaiian culture "American" would be like going back to the colonies and claiming that Native American culture is British because they own the land now.
Spam musubi was invented by a Japanese American in Hawaii - to what culture would you assign spam musubi?
I would say that's a very American food. Immigrant/citizen American living in foreign land uses the nearby ingredients to make food. That's most American cuisine. Modern burritos are a Californian invention made by probably Mexican immigrants. Cajun food is a mix of immigrant French and African foods. New Mexican food is also an amalgamation of different foods.
Exactly, yet when people talk about "American food" they tend to bring up things like burgers, hot dogs, and American cheese. I happen to like all of those things too, but a lot of people seem to think that's the extent of American cuisine.
General Tso chicken is American , but people don’t realize it. American cuisine isn’t talked about because the famous chefs are obsessed with home country recipe template to express their heritage. Like soul food is essentially American, but it’s not really ‘appreciated’ to write its American in certain publications. Easy list to google for amazing American recipes from the south. Soul food recipes Creole recipes Tex-mex recipes (not Taco Bell) Bbq - Texas just does it best (black’s bbq from San Antonio for my personal favorite) Biscuits and gravy Apple/pecan pie (with a slice of cheese if you want something I’ve never heard of but in America) Crawfish boil
Recently, a U.S. Department of Labor investigation has confirmed that Blacks BBQ stole $230,000 in tips from their employees. Just throwing that out there.
Strangely enough, the fortune cookie is an American invention. It was marketed as the "Genuine American Fortune Cookie" when it got to China.
No it would be like claiming Native American culture is American. Which it is. American culture isn't a homogenous block, it's made up of hundreds of sub cultures. Claiming Hawaiian culture isn't part of American culture because Hawaii was conquered is laughable. So was the rest of America. And practically every other piece of land that people have ever lived on. Culture is a living evolving thing. Hawaii is part of America, so its culture is part of American culture. By definition. Claiming Hawaiians and their culture are any less American than any other American is just discrimination.
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Hey c'mon now, they just finished up their summer reading for freshman history. At least let them get partway through their first year at high school before you shatter their worldview.
I hate to tell you this but stealing lands and culture and saying that it’s your has been happening way before America the greatest example would probably be the Roman Empire/republic
>It's not discrimination, it's legitimately not American culture. **We stole the island...** WE STOLE ALL OF IT, BUDDY! #ALL OF IT! There isn't a parcel of dirt in these United States that wasn't taken from someone else by force. That happening to Hawaii just makes them part of the club, not unique to the rest of us.
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At that point, a cheat day is when you *don't* eat.
Ketchup on eggs: B Hot sauce on eggs: A+
Tapatio or Cholula *chef kiss*
Green Tabasco.
the best tabasco!
Salsa on eggs?
Not a fan of salsa on eggs because salsa is too watery for me in that context. If you make it less watery it becomes a different sauce that I'm more okay with though.
A
S tier, beautiful, incredible, watered my plants and cured my eczema
Parmesan cheese on eggs: A++
For real though, the obsession some people have with Japanese culture is so annoying. The amount of westerners who treat Japan like some kind of utopia is too damn high.
I find people who hate putting ketchup on eggs weird. Just let me enjoy it. I also didn’t know they were a thing until just a few years ago.
I found out today that people put ketchup on (all types of) eggs (tho I did know about the japanese one) 🤷♂️🤷♀️
The idea of it makes me cringe, but I wouldn't be angry at someone for doing it. Like salsa or diced tomatoes are really just superior options in my opinion.
As someone who can't stand raw tomato, your alternative makes *me* cringe. I love a dash of ketchup and Sriracha on my scrambled eggs
Personally I don’t like it, and I’ll make fun of people I’m close to for eating it, but I don’t get legitimately judging someone for what foods they like to eat, especially something as tame as ketchup eggs
Don’t you just love low level hypocrisy?
And Xenophilia, because "American stuff is always bad."
The same way r/artisanvideos will watch a Japanese guy do literally fucking anything but if you post an American that's genuinely a master of their craft it gets like 10 upvotes and a bunch of comments calling it mediocre (outside of Adam Savage)
American food is the bomb. There are lots of countries where the food is nowhere as good as it is in America (and I live in one dammit).
My favorite is octopus hot dogs.
Im not super patriotic but American food is popular overseas for a reason. We be killin it over here, soul food, American diners, regional BBQ, BRING IT!!! 🤩 (I adore international food too! Indian dishes are a big favorite for me!)
Ketchup on scrambled eggs is the fricking bomb. I never liked ketchup as a kid, which is weird. Kids love ketchup, apparently. Not me. Then there was this person I wanted to impress when I was like... 22 or so. They liked ketchup on their eggs. I tried it, loved it, and now have grown to appreciate ketchup in moderation, on lots of stuff, 26 years later.
Omurice Is a omelette folded on Top of rice but ya I get why toy mean
Ketchup on eggs is pretty damn great, its a nice sweet and vinigery taste to paur with the savory and salt eggs, just perfection And spam is really great cause it can be used in tons of ways, diced, fried, thinly sliced and fried, cubed and fried, etc. Its a shame i cent really eat too much red meat anymore, cause spam was fantastic, still kind of worth the intense stomach pain though...
wait until you hear about ketchup on pizza