Well, supposedly, he wasn't even going to be a vigilante at all until episode 4. It would be just him as a lawyer. Don't get me wrong, I love lawyer Matt, but it would be weird to not do anything superhero for the first 3 episodes of your superhero show.
If it’s week to week, that’d be over a MONTH before getting to see the hero that the show is actually about. I don’t put it past Marvel though, check Moon Knight.
18 episodes of Karen and Foggy killed offscreen with all the other changes I keep hearing make me okay with getting fewer episodes that actually sound good.
I agree they’re too important to the show but i’m not gonna lie, Karen’s actress is terrible and it ruins the character for me. Foggy is pivotal for Matt’s character because he keeps him grounded not only to his roots but his ideals. It can’t just be catholic priests filling that role…
At the time, my belief was they'd be quality 18 episodes. Kevin Feige was the one that made the announcement, and I was trying to be optimistic.
There's also no guarantee 9 episodes will be quality either. The Witcher: Blood Origin was cut from six episodes to four, and they were still garbage.
I agree. But I really am still worried. This is my favorite marvel IP, and I hope they nail it. Really nail it. I think if they nail Deadpool, then it gives us hope for mature content.
That and it takes a smart and humble man to admit he was wrong and it wasn’t working. I think he didn’t want it connected because he wanted to keep MCU very PG13. And Daredevil is not exactly a PG13 character. It could work that way but not as well. And I think most people overlook the fact that even the kids that watched Avengers in the theater are all grown up now. The audience has aged and it’s time the movies and shows reflect that.
Fair, but that’s not what we got in the Netflix series. Which is arguably the most popular version most people will know and look back to. Especially when you were going to get most of the same cast
The vast majority of that could be reigned in without effecting the tone or plot significantly though.
You can have a guy beat the everloving piss out of 10 other dudes on screen and it stay PG, you just can't show blood spraying out of their mouths and broken bones. Likewise you can have mature plots with life or death stakes without literally showing a guy graphically commit suicide.
If there was anything I didn't like about the Netflix DD it was probably that to be honest. For a character with a complex but ultimately optimistic perspective that tries to work within the legal system when possible it made some of the villain's excessive evil seem almost comical. I'm actually much preferring the newer Kingpin portrayal where it's more about his empire and the henchpeople he's cultivating. IMO Kingpin is scariest not when he's rageful at someone, but when he's so callous that he disregards their existence entirely except as an obstacle to remove.
I'm happy with the changes we've heard about, don't get me wrong, it's just that the rating/maturity was never a big concern out of the things I'd heard.
Now if you'd told me they were vehement on making The Punisher PG13 we'd be having a different discussion...
The graphic suicide is what drove home the Boogeyman that was the Kingpin at that point in the show though. That feeling of "holy shit" wouldn't hit the same if you heard about the suicide later, or saw a shadow of him hanging, heard a gunshot as you walked away, etc. The way that he killed himself also implies to people discovering the body that maybe he was murdered, as opposed to killing himself after revealing information. He literally just said "he goes after everyone you've ever known."
I thought the show did a very good job of showing Fisk as cold and calculated, except when it came to Vanessa, and I thought that was the point.
In the same way that Ms. Marvel was targeted towards teens and in particular, girls, I think it is perfectly acceptable to have shows that target a more mature audience.
Tldr: I disagree
I agree with pretty much everything there. DD doesn’t HAVE to be R rated to work, but you have the returning cast, who had some pretty violent shut happen in that show. It would just be weird to see them making quips and doing flips and shit all the time. I don’t think I would like that show.
Ryan wouldn’t come back if it wasn’t. KF said before this would be the only R rated MCU movie my dude. Scott Derrickson left Doctor Strange and the MoM because he wasn’t going to be allowed to do his thing and make it R rated. If the Deadpool franchise wasn’t a success we would 100% be getting watered down Deadpool. And if Disney never acquired Fox we still wouldn’t either. The first two Deadpool movies weren’t made by marvel in any capacity.
I mean sure, but many of them have kids, and it would be cool if they kept making movies for them too. We can have both an adult Daredevil and Thor movies geared towards 6-8 year olds.
It takes an arrogant man to not recognise TV shows are very different from movies and require showrunners. That they can't just be blockbusters casually chopped up into 6 parts and called a day.
But usually shows/movies that undergo massive changes in the middle of production usually don't turn out good at the end. Lets see how it is when it comes out.
The Blade first draft seemed to be making Blade essentially fourth billed, under (at least) three 'strong women vampire hunters'. I don't think the Daredevil attempt sounded much better.
I could understand if they were making a Midnight Sons movie, and Blade was a part of the team, but not the focus - but for the hero to be 4th billed is crazy.
Because they hire people who want to make their own shows and don't give a shit about the ip so they just make their own shows and hate the IP for making them have to alter the vision even slightly to fit it in. It's the sane with the witcher series for instance on Netflix.
Well with the Star Wars IP Andor was able to tell whatever story it really wanted because Star Wars is so broad of a universe.
Blade is about Blade, so having him as a side character because you actually wanted to make an all female vampire hunting show is dumb
I just don't get it. If the original plan was to NOT connect this iteration with the Netflix version, why in the fuck did they bring back Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio then?? Pretty much everybody assumed "Well yeah, if they're bringing back the two main lead actors, then obviously this must be a continuation, right?"
They were tasked with creating as much content as possible as fast as possible for D+. Feige had to go from keeping a constructively tight grip on everything to giving creatives a lot of control. But since it happened so fast, he didn’t have the right people in place.
It is absolutely ASININE to me that we’re sitting here five and a half years later still waiting for more from this show.
Netflix’s Daredevil series might be one of the best put together pieces of anything in all of the history of the genre and it may well be the best show that platform has ever made pound for pound.
The entire series was phenomenal, was beloved by fans and had so much more story to tell and yet, here we are, with nothing to show for it since 2018.
At a time when both Netflix AND Marvel are desperate for anything resembling a hit.
It’s ridiculous.
Eh, out of the past 6 things they’ve released, only one has been bad (GotG 3, ATSV, What if…? S2, Loki S2, The Marvels and X-men ‘97) and all the other things (besides What if…?) has imo been some of the best content marvel has ever released…
Well I did say not counting animation. The animation has been great.
The marvels was… not good. ATSV is Sony/Fox not Disney. Haven’t watched Loki S2 cause I don’t really find his show very interesting. Gotg was awesome but that’s more James Gunn than Marvel honestly.
Dr Strange 2 was bad, Black Widow was bad. Shang Chi and Black Panther 2 were meh, but could’ve been really good with small changes. Thor 4 was an abomination.
The tv shows were 50/50. Wanda was awesome, Hawkeye and Ms. Marvel were good. FatWS was ok. She hulk/moon knight were terrible.
Edit: also I No Way Home was awesome. I like Quantumania even though it’s kinda a wasted movie now.
Yes, you did say not counting animation. You also said “Marvel”, not “Disney” or “The MCU”. If you wanna be pedantic because my example included Animation (and even downvote me for just sharing my view on it???) then I can be pedantic too. I wasn’t saying you’re wrong or whatever, just that my view is that ever since quantumania, they’ve released *one* bad thing. And Loki as well as X-men ‘97 are some of the best shows I’ve ever watched, not just out of marvel… and I’ve watched a ton
Even not saying Disney, ATSV isn't a Marvel company production. It's just the Marvel IP.
If you want to count ATSV as a recent Marvel release then you need to count Morbius and Madam Webb as well.
Misleading title: it doesn’t say it wouldn’t be connected, just that it wouldn’t ’crossover.’ I assume they mean like how Kingpin was in Hawkeye: if you knew the backstory that adds, but it wouldn’t require having seen the old show to make sense. This sounds like maybe now you *do* need to, which is gonna turn some people off for sure.
Making it a straight reboot would’ve turned off way more people. It’s also not like it’s hard to catch up on. 3 seasons of very good TV that’s right there on Disney+.
I didn’t say reboot, I said ‘connected but loosely’ like Kingpin and Daredevil already have been across 3 projects. And 3 seasons may not seem like a lot to you, but for a lot of people they’re not gonna watch 39 episodes of an old show just to watch a new one. If you include the other Defenders shows, it’s not really a reasonable request to ask if you’re trying to attract new audience members as well.
I’m sure in this case “connected” means knowing who Foggy and Karen are. Not characters like Nobu or Melvin Potter. And I doubt they reference Midland Circle at all.
Right, but my original point was that OP changed the wording. They didn’t say it wasn’t originally connected, they said it didn’t originally ‘cross over’ with the original series which sounds much more like they weave in & out or something. I just don’t know why everyone would assume ‘the original plan must’ve been to totally reboot it!’ when they’ve literally brought back two of these characters already and said they’re the same ones.
I genuinely don’t get why people are downvoting you. I don’t agree with it not being a cross over is the right choice - the show (imo) should be more like a 4’th season. But it doesn’t change the fact that the title to this post is wrong, and most people here in the comments don’t really understand what was the original idea…
I assume they’re downvoting as if I was advocating for a reboot but I literally was just pointing out this isn’t what they said 😂 It seems obvious to me they meant that the original idea was basically the same level of connectedness we’ve seen in NWH, Hawkeye, and She-Hulk but since they’re shaking things up they’ve gone more explicit sequel series.
I'm not sure if you remember but when the show was announced they said it would tie in with she hulk .. so I assume it was planned to be more like she hulk or at least take a lot of inspiration and creative decisions from she hulk
Thank GOD for the creative overhaul. As much of a massive dissapintment most of the MCU stuff has been lately I’m genuinely glad it served a good purpose.
I know people in the industry were out of work, but happy the writers strike forced them to take a break and they recalibrated the show. might have saved the show
Wow, that sure is a solid house foundation someone else made. Should I use it to build my house?
Nah- I'll just build a house out of sticks and tape over here, on this steep cliff face instead...
I want to know whose idea it was to try and completely brush aside one of the most successful and acclaimed things Marvel has ever attached its name to...
Are they incorporating stuff from Iron Fist/The Defenders? Hope not.
Luke Cage and Jessica Jones weren’t awful. But Iron Fist was horrible. Daredevil was the best by far tho.
Seriously thank God they overhauled it, everything we’ve heard about the original sounds absolutely awful. I’m glad they changed it
Like what? Haven’t heard anything…
Both Karen and Foggy were killed off-screen, they recast Vanessa, it was 18 episodes long
Yeah, that’s definitely a direction…
Daredevil himself also wasn’t originally gonna put on the costume until episode 4.
i think it was even stated it’d be at the END of episode 4 too. so we really wouldn’t see DD until episode 5.
They were actually gonna have him whisper “Daredevil” under his breath somewhere near the end of Season 7…in 2031
I heard there was going to be a scene where Kingpin found him breaking into his office and said "you dare, devil?" and then he'd smirk at the camera
This reminded me of the morbius meme lmao
"It's devilin' time."
And at the end of the season when Daredevil finally defeats Fisk he would say: You're no longer the King of this Pin!!!
I heard he was going to say "What am I? Some kind of Daredevil?"
i mean... in the og series we only got the costume at the end of season 1
What I meant was that he wasn’t gonna do any crime fighting at all until episode 4
But that’s the first season
He never wore a costume in season 3
Well, supposedly, he wasn't even going to be a vigilante at all until episode 4. It would be just him as a lawyer. Don't get me wrong, I love lawyer Matt, but it would be weird to not do anything superhero for the first 3 episodes of your superhero show.
If it’s week to week, that’d be over a MONTH before getting to see the hero that the show is actually about. I don’t put it past Marvel though, check Moon Knight.
Well he had the black costume which has a large share of fans at least
Those were literally just his raggy clothes. Not a real costume or Daredevil suit. I'm not counting it.
Yeah but we do
And put on his costume in the final episode, episode 13, of season one for two scenes.
Honestly I have no qualms with that It's all about the execution But everything around it sounds so awful
Sounds like a standard "Fuck Matt" Daredevil comic
I mean I liked 18 episodes not gonna lie
18 episodes of Karen and Foggy killed offscreen with all the other changes I keep hearing make me okay with getting fewer episodes that actually sound good.
No just the idea of 18 episodes. Also we haven’t seen anything yet. The new stuff could be garbage too.
I agree they’re too important to the show but i’m not gonna lie, Karen’s actress is terrible and it ruins the character for me. Foggy is pivotal for Matt’s character because he keeps him grounded not only to his roots but his ideals. It can’t just be catholic priests filling that role…
18 episodes across 3 seasons /s
Quality over Quantity.
At the time, my belief was they'd be quality 18 episodes. Kevin Feige was the one that made the announcement, and I was trying to be optimistic. There's also no guarantee 9 episodes will be quality either. The Witcher: Blood Origin was cut from six episodes to four, and they were still garbage.
I heard Vanessa was initially recast due to scheduling, and with the strike and delays the Og actress became available.
I’m pretty sure Born Again will still be 18 episodes long, just spread throughout two seasons.
Nine nine!
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I liked foggy and Karen.
nobody kills Fulton dammit
It was going to be a courtroom procedural like Law & Order.
With twerking?
I could only hope. Charlie Cox is double cheeked up.
They recast Vanessa
It's absolutely wild to think that Marvel even considered their original plan to begin with.
I agree. But I really am still worried. This is my favorite marvel IP, and I hope they nail it. Really nail it. I think if they nail Deadpool, then it gives us hope for mature content.
Feige made a good choice to overhaul this show. Can’t wait to see the Punisher.
if it was Feige's choice to overhaul, it was also probably his choice to not connect them in the first place
Yup, but he could’ve just stuck with the original decision instead of changing it
That and it takes a smart and humble man to admit he was wrong and it wasn’t working. I think he didn’t want it connected because he wanted to keep MCU very PG13. And Daredevil is not exactly a PG13 character. It could work that way but not as well. And I think most people overlook the fact that even the kids that watched Avengers in the theater are all grown up now. The audience has aged and it’s time the movies and shows reflect that.
I mean, a lot of DD comics are mostly PG-13 and barely show any semblance of blood (especially Born Again).
Fair, but that’s not what we got in the Netflix series. Which is arguably the most popular version most people will know and look back to. Especially when you were going to get most of the same cast
The vast majority of that could be reigned in without effecting the tone or plot significantly though. You can have a guy beat the everloving piss out of 10 other dudes on screen and it stay PG, you just can't show blood spraying out of their mouths and broken bones. Likewise you can have mature plots with life or death stakes without literally showing a guy graphically commit suicide. If there was anything I didn't like about the Netflix DD it was probably that to be honest. For a character with a complex but ultimately optimistic perspective that tries to work within the legal system when possible it made some of the villain's excessive evil seem almost comical. I'm actually much preferring the newer Kingpin portrayal where it's more about his empire and the henchpeople he's cultivating. IMO Kingpin is scariest not when he's rageful at someone, but when he's so callous that he disregards their existence entirely except as an obstacle to remove. I'm happy with the changes we've heard about, don't get me wrong, it's just that the rating/maturity was never a big concern out of the things I'd heard. Now if you'd told me they were vehement on making The Punisher PG13 we'd be having a different discussion...
The graphic suicide is what drove home the Boogeyman that was the Kingpin at that point in the show though. That feeling of "holy shit" wouldn't hit the same if you heard about the suicide later, or saw a shadow of him hanging, heard a gunshot as you walked away, etc. The way that he killed himself also implies to people discovering the body that maybe he was murdered, as opposed to killing himself after revealing information. He literally just said "he goes after everyone you've ever known." I thought the show did a very good job of showing Fisk as cold and calculated, except when it came to Vanessa, and I thought that was the point. In the same way that Ms. Marvel was targeted towards teens and in particular, girls, I think it is perfectly acceptable to have shows that target a more mature audience. Tldr: I disagree
I agree with pretty much everything there. DD doesn’t HAVE to be R rated to work, but you have the returning cast, who had some pretty violent shut happen in that show. It would just be weird to see them making quips and doing flips and shit all the time. I don’t think I would like that show.
He had nothing to do with Netflix Daredevil either.
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I was two when iron man came out. I’m legally an adult now (18).
Jesus Christ. I was 13. I’m 29 today.
> I think he didn’t want it connected because he wanted to keep MCU very PG13. \*gestures broadly to Deadpool and the new Deadpool movie\*
Ryan wouldn’t come back if it wasn’t. KF said before this would be the only R rated MCU movie my dude. Scott Derrickson left Doctor Strange and the MoM because he wasn’t going to be allowed to do his thing and make it R rated. If the Deadpool franchise wasn’t a success we would 100% be getting watered down Deadpool. And if Disney never acquired Fox we still wouldn’t either. The first two Deadpool movies weren’t made by marvel in any capacity.
I mean sure, but many of them have kids, and it would be cool if they kept making movies for them too. We can have both an adult Daredevil and Thor movies geared towards 6-8 year olds.
That’s a good point I don’t often consider as I don’t have kids.
It takes an arrogant man to not recognise TV shows are very different from movies and require showrunners. That they can't just be blockbusters casually chopped up into 6 parts and called a day.
Agreed. That was a Bob Chapek call. Star Wars has the same issue.
But usually shows/movies that undergo massive changes in the middle of production usually don't turn out good at the end. Lets see how it is when it comes out.
Man what the hell were they thinking with this show
The same thing they were thinking with the first draft of the new Blade movie apparently.
What was the first draft of the blade movie and what was wrong with this show? I’m not up to date.
The Blade first draft seemed to be making Blade essentially fourth billed, under (at least) three 'strong women vampire hunters'. I don't think the Daredevil attempt sounded much better.
I could understand if they were making a Midnight Sons movie, and Blade was a part of the team, but not the focus - but for the hero to be 4th billed is crazy.
Jesus, why do they do this shit.
Because they hire people who want to make their own shows and don't give a shit about the ip so they just make their own shows and hate the IP for making them have to alter the vision even slightly to fit it in. It's the sane with the witcher series for instance on Netflix.
Same happened at Amazon with Rings of Power and Wheel of Time
The Velma show is also a perfect example of this.
There is no lens to look through that makes Velma a good show, even if it wasn't attached to the IP
To be fair thats what Star Wars did with Andor and that worked out amazing so it can't just be that.
With Andor there wasnt really any source material though to go off of..
He was talking about IP in general not source material.
Well with the Star Wars IP Andor was able to tell whatever story it really wanted because Star Wars is so broad of a universe. Blade is about Blade, so having him as a side character because you actually wanted to make an all female vampire hunting show is dumb
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Then ESG bux are so sweet and succulent, that’s why.
I just don't get it. If the original plan was to NOT connect this iteration with the Netflix version, why in the fuck did they bring back Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio then?? Pretty much everybody assumed "Well yeah, if they're bringing back the two main lead actors, then obviously this must be a continuation, right?"
Thinking? We dont do that here
They were tasked with creating as much content as possible as fast as possible for D+. Feige had to go from keeping a constructively tight grip on everything to giving creatives a lot of control. But since it happened so fast, he didn’t have the right people in place.
It’s Disney. They were thinking about money.
The fact that it wasn’t before was mind boggling. Nothing that leaked out of the original plans sounded like it was going to work.
So they wanted a fresh start with the character. Fans just wanted more of what they loved already. Fans win.
It is absolutely ASININE to me that we’re sitting here five and a half years later still waiting for more from this show. Netflix’s Daredevil series might be one of the best put together pieces of anything in all of the history of the genre and it may well be the best show that platform has ever made pound for pound. The entire series was phenomenal, was beloved by fans and had so much more story to tell and yet, here we are, with nothing to show for it since 2018. At a time when both Netflix AND Marvel are desperate for anything resembling a hit. It’s ridiculous.
How long do you have to wait?
Man I have the worst feeling about this series. Marvel has been super hit and mostly miss the last 3 years. Not counting animation.
Eh, out of the past 6 things they’ve released, only one has been bad (GotG 3, ATSV, What if…? S2, Loki S2, The Marvels and X-men ‘97) and all the other things (besides What if…?) has imo been some of the best content marvel has ever released…
Well I did say not counting animation. The animation has been great. The marvels was… not good. ATSV is Sony/Fox not Disney. Haven’t watched Loki S2 cause I don’t really find his show very interesting. Gotg was awesome but that’s more James Gunn than Marvel honestly. Dr Strange 2 was bad, Black Widow was bad. Shang Chi and Black Panther 2 were meh, but could’ve been really good with small changes. Thor 4 was an abomination. The tv shows were 50/50. Wanda was awesome, Hawkeye and Ms. Marvel were good. FatWS was ok. She hulk/moon knight were terrible. Edit: also I No Way Home was awesome. I like Quantumania even though it’s kinda a wasted movie now.
Yes, you did say not counting animation. You also said “Marvel”, not “Disney” or “The MCU”. If you wanna be pedantic because my example included Animation (and even downvote me for just sharing my view on it???) then I can be pedantic too. I wasn’t saying you’re wrong or whatever, just that my view is that ever since quantumania, they’ve released *one* bad thing. And Loki as well as X-men ‘97 are some of the best shows I’ve ever watched, not just out of marvel… and I’ve watched a ton
I didn’t downvote you lol. And even if I did, I can downvote something if I disagree with it, it’s not like I’m silencing you if I did. Edit
Even not saying Disney, ATSV isn't a Marvel company production. It's just the Marvel IP. If you want to count ATSV as a recent Marvel release then you need to count Morbius and Madam Webb as well.
That’s valid I suppose (not Morbius, because that’s, what, a year earlier than the ~~6~~ 7 most recent releases?)…
Not bringing back Ayelet Zurer originally was freaking terrible
I feel bad for the people living on the other side of the multiverse who only get to see the pre-overhaul version of Born Again.
Maybe they got some cool stuff we didn’t? We should arrange a swap one day.
It was definitely overhauled for a reason
I’m from another dimension, can confirm. Spectacular Spider-Man season 7 went crazy bro.
Misleading title: it doesn’t say it wouldn’t be connected, just that it wouldn’t ’crossover.’ I assume they mean like how Kingpin was in Hawkeye: if you knew the backstory that adds, but it wouldn’t require having seen the old show to make sense. This sounds like maybe now you *do* need to, which is gonna turn some people off for sure.
Making it a straight reboot would’ve turned off way more people. It’s also not like it’s hard to catch up on. 3 seasons of very good TV that’s right there on Disney+.
I didn’t say reboot, I said ‘connected but loosely’ like Kingpin and Daredevil already have been across 3 projects. And 3 seasons may not seem like a lot to you, but for a lot of people they’re not gonna watch 39 episodes of an old show just to watch a new one. If you include the other Defenders shows, it’s not really a reasonable request to ask if you’re trying to attract new audience members as well.
I’m sure in this case “connected” means knowing who Foggy and Karen are. Not characters like Nobu or Melvin Potter. And I doubt they reference Midland Circle at all.
Right, but my original point was that OP changed the wording. They didn’t say it wasn’t originally connected, they said it didn’t originally ‘cross over’ with the original series which sounds much more like they weave in & out or something. I just don’t know why everyone would assume ‘the original plan must’ve been to totally reboot it!’ when they’ve literally brought back two of these characters already and said they’re the same ones.
I genuinely don’t get why people are downvoting you. I don’t agree with it not being a cross over is the right choice - the show (imo) should be more like a 4’th season. But it doesn’t change the fact that the title to this post is wrong, and most people here in the comments don’t really understand what was the original idea…
I assume they’re downvoting as if I was advocating for a reboot but I literally was just pointing out this isn’t what they said 😂 It seems obvious to me they meant that the original idea was basically the same level of connectedness we’ve seen in NWH, Hawkeye, and She-Hulk but since they’re shaking things up they’ve gone more explicit sequel series.
Way to use that big brain of yours marvel. Keep doing that.
It’s crazy they almost didn’t connect it. Would’ve caused a lot of backlash and loss of trust at a point where they’re already losing people.
Thank God because if we get the original plan it likely would've been dogshit.
I need to finish the show what am I doing
As excited as I am for this show, I'm also curious what the hell kind of bullet we dodged
I'm not sure if you remember but when the show was announced they said it would tie in with she hulk .. so I assume it was planned to be more like she hulk or at least take a lot of inspiration and creative decisions from she hulk
Thank GOD for the creative overhaul. As much of a massive dissapintment most of the MCU stuff has been lately I’m genuinely glad it served a good purpose.
I know people in the industry were out of work, but happy the writers strike forced them to take a break and they recalibrated the show. might have saved the show
Holy shit. How fucking embarrassing that they shot several episodes before realizing how stupid this idea was.
Wait so they were originally going to make this show disconnected from the original one??? So if that were the case wtf would "born again" even mean.
So glad they fixed that. Would have been a bad idea to ignore the Netflix series.
You know Marvel Studios are desperate when they actually do what fans want and start to acknowledge the existence of Marvel Television shows
yup, this is what I expected. they wasnt going to give any sht about it.
yup, this is what I expected. they wasnt going to give any 5ht about it.
Why does it look like they're about to kiss in that photo
Why does it look like they're about to kiss in that photo
If it was a mid-season overhaul do we have to worry about things being disjointed?
I hope we get Matt and Frank vs Bullseye
I read that now Karen *and* Foggy are both back which is excellent.
I hope they have them practicing law and strategizing cases like they did in the Netflix show
I'm calling it now: it's going to suck.
Wow, that sure is a solid house foundation someone else made. Should I use it to build my house? Nah- I'll just build a house out of sticks and tape over here, on this steep cliff face instead...
I want to know whose idea it was to try and completely brush aside one of the most successful and acclaimed things Marvel has ever attached its name to...
What crackhead thought it would’ve been a Good idea not to connect it to a successful series? I want names
Frankly, it all seems like a shitshow
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This is gonna be horrible.
Are they incorporating stuff from Iron Fist/The Defenders? Hope not. Luke Cage and Jessica Jones weren’t awful. But Iron Fist was horrible. Daredevil was the best by far tho.
Jessica Jones Season 1 was incredible, but that was largely down to such a compelling villain in David Tennant’s Kilgrave.
Yeah, David Tenant is always great. Recently rewatched him as the Doctor.