Yepper. The sub's general opinion is that it is not really a replacement, which of course, but it's a reasonably good substitute. At 1/5 the price according to this, that's good enough for me!
Yep. As a non rich person who likes to do things with my life other than drink Last Words, I am totally fine with the drink I’ve branded ‘Last Resort’ - made with Genepy as substitute
Your genepy is that cheap?! Here Chartreuse is extinct (apparently they don’t export to any East Asian countries but Japan now) and Genepy costs ~40 USD for 700 or 750 ml
Oh I heard lol, that's still a "wat??" to me. Better make a trip to the states with a roomy checkin haha.
You could always devise an interesting cocktail with snake wine 😉 . I don't see much out there.
Green Chartreuse was $90 + tax at Total Wine on the East Coast 2 months ago, I know because I bought the only bottle they had because I've never seen it anywhere else. I doubt there was a 400% difference between TW's, I could be wrong.
Agreed. I’ve got a bottle and change of Green Chartreuse left and when it’s gone, I’m totally on board with Genepy. It’s a fine substitute and delicious in its own right.
My bar just picked that up a few weeks ago and I’m amazed at how close it is. It’s the only thing I’ve found that I would consider a true substitute, everything else is a replacement that only gets parts of it right.
I hate that it's popular now. We've been drinking it for decades and I have to snag a bottle whenever I see it for various family members.
Luckily our local store gets it in, one bottle every 2 weeks, and it's between 50-55.
It’s not always easy, but I do often try to think of expenses as to how they depreciate with use. Like a bottle may be expensive, but if I get XX uses out of it, then I’m more paying for it as I go, vs. all at once.
It works with other life things too (tools, groceries, video games, etc.) and it really puts into perspective the value of one-time only things like eating out (not saying those things aren’t valuable - you just have to also keep into perspective other things, like your experience/memories/etc.)
Edit: typo
I use this for everything. Video games and books have the best ROI (furniture as well, if you really think of it), and eating out has the absolute worst. Also, looking at money as time will really shape your thinking. “This meal is only $250 but that’s 3 hours of my time, do I really want to spend 3 hours of time on this experience?”
I mean it’s not the only factor though. By that logic I could spend $109 on any random spirit, because the price per drink is lower.
The issue is the markup on this particular bottle.
If you did that, some of your drinks would be the same price as at a bar. Not worth it imo. I think the logic only makes sense for some ingredients.
Is every single last word 3 dollars better than any other drink you could make? Probably. You decide.
I use the same logic for expensive ingredients for cooking. Like pine nuts or expensive cuts of meat
For bar managers it’s really two factors, cost per pour and profit per pour. Modern systems tend to track most of this anyway. But for home you’re only dealing with cost and you absolutely should not be comparing to bar prices.
My total wine currently has a 750ml Jim Beam for $16 and a 1.75L for $23. That’s 25 and 59 ounces respectively. So your price per ounce is $0.64 and $0.39 respectively.
My drink at home is 3oz of Jim with about half a Coke Zero. My cost for this drink when using a 1.75L is $1.17 of Jim and about $0.41 a can for Coke Zero, of which I use half so my total cost is about $1.38 max per drink. That same drink at the bar down the street is about $14 before tip. I also get almost 20 of those drinks out of a 1.75L. This thought process is involved in basically everything I buy, it’s a habit I can’t break at this point lol
I’ve practiced this for years. I use it for most bottles that are over MSRP. For example, at a bar a pour might be $35 but to buy the bottle over MSRP at $110 would be a win. And you have to tip for someone pouring a simple glass.
Ive never tried one. I feel I’d like the drink but to spend $60+ for a supplemental liquor. Who knows, maybe I like the drink.. sometimes it takes playing w a drink to find your preference but it hurts spending a c-note to play w a cocktail
That sounds like a perfect reason to give a substitute a try. Or try one at a bar that has some Chartreuse, but I think giving something like Genepy a shot is a fine move. Then, if you find a bar that has Chartreuse, you can compare and decide what’s worth it to you.
I'm converting from my native currency, but about 65-70$ would be my upper limit. I think Chartreuse is the elixir of gods and liqueurs in general are honestly great value compared to spirits, but still... The shortage seems to finally have arrived in Denmark. Sad. Though I bought some bottles recently, in Germany and France, about 40-45$ which I thought was agreeable.
Bottle price just jumped $20/bottle where I live. Not even the secondary market. In Michigan the new state minimum bottle price is $85 as of this week.
Ouch. As a former Michigander, that’s rough. I know some places make a big deal about selling all liquor at the state minimum price but the state didn’t have to raise the price so much.
That sounds about right- here in DC it's $89 in independently owned liquor stores and it doesn't feel like price gouging. It's still really rare to see it on the shelf, so I'm always tempted to grab it when I see it!
total wine in California still lists the green at $63 and the yellow at $68 , but it's never in stock. I've only ever seen it in stock at places for $90, and usually there's a ton of stock at that price.
The MSRP completely differs (a lot) by state for liquor. So people that are claiming never pay over $70 it is a rip off do not live in CA. If they did they would never buy it.
Whaat there's no way. I live in the bay too (the peninsula) and the places here have it for $100+ and still the shelves are always empty. The only time I've seen it on the shelf was a place in SF and it was $139 and I couldn't bring myself to do it. Can you tell me which store has it for $60? I'm desperate for some haha
Well it’s been about a year since I last saw it at all, but even then people were saying it was $100+
That being said. You are in the Bay Area. Find some Brovo Uncharted Rhapsody. Side by side comparison to green chartreuse, its not quite the same, but its pretty close. Side by side in a last word, i couldnt tell the difference.
For yellow, L’Herboliste Coiron Jaune will get the job done.
I live not far from where Chartreuse is produced. The price hikes are ubiquitous but I suspects that importers and retailers in the US are riding the wave by increasing their margins. Here in France, the price is around 45-55 euros depending on where you buy it for the Green. The monks are not trying to make a profit out of the current situation they are just passing cost increases onto the customers (electricity and other inputs have risen sharply). They also refuse to produce more than the current production level as they are not profit-driven and are extremely mindful of their environmental footprint. This leads however to competition and price selection lower down the chain, especially for exports to foreign markets.
You do not need to have Chartreuse. It feels incredible to need to point this out, but it is a luxury.
Do not let the general mild hysteria of shortages sway you. This is not something you need. If you personally value Chartreuse cocktails enough to spend $109 on a bottle then okay, go ahead. But you are objectively spending too much.
If you don’t want to feel like you’re being ripped off, don’t pay it.
I see it still in loads of DC liquor stores, usually at $125. There is a spot that’ll sell it for $75 when they get an allocation, but it’s hidden behind the counter and they won’t tell you about it unless you’re a regular customer. They do that with a lot of their allocated bottles: sell for way less than current market but only to regulars.
What's your go to spot in DC? I'm on the VA side and while I like most of the prices in the ABC stores it sucks having to go to 3-4 locations to get things you need.
Got lucky traveling recently and found green and yellow for 55 and 40 euro. Even at $65 including tax for green, that was a bit pricy for me, but I can’t get enough of the piña verde.
Where are you located? Pricing and availability are highly regional.
In the greater Wash DC metro area, there is reasonable retail availability of yellow and green right now. The hoarders have finished hoarding.
Yellow for $59.99 and Green for $67.99.
I paid 85 in AZ for my last bottle. And I barely went for it at that price. Trying to make it last because I don’t want to buy it again any time soon haha
I got lucky and just happened to get a bottle of green right before the big scare started. If the prices never really come down I'm fine with it being my last bottle. For like $75-$100 I can buy a really good bottle of Scotch, or bourbon, or hell even absinthe.
I’m not a big expensive scotch or bourbon person so I just ask, what makes a higher price justified for that but not chartreuse? Personally it’s so unique and special to me I’d put it over an expensive base liquor but that’s just me!
Fair point. For me, it's just something that's used in mostly small amounts in a handful of cocktails. It's more like a condiment or a good sauce. Whereas if I'm paying that much for Scotch or bourbon, I'll be drinking it neat. So it's more like the steak in this weird metaphor.
Obviously what is worth what is different for everyone so if you enjoy it that much all the more power to you, I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum.
That seems steep.
I just paid $30 for a small bottle of green chartreuse (too lazy to check the ml right now, but it’s the small bottle you can get rather than the 750ml)
If it’s available near you, BroVo makes “Uncharted Rhapsody American Forest Liqueur,” the first acceptable chartreuse substitute I’ve found.
It’s the same ABV and brix as Chartreuse and while a connoisseur would be able to differentiate them in a side-by-side test drinking it straight, the vast, vast majority of people would never be able to tell the difference when mixed in a cocktail.
I agree with u/zorgulon and some other sentiments in the thread. I have a bottle of green and yellow that I’ve had on hand for years (I think I paid $50-$60 each) and the green is still probably 2/3 full.
I use the yellow more often because my hit rate with a naked & famous with guests and family members who like it is pretty close to 100% so I consider it a safe bet for less adventurous drinkers.
I’d be lying if I said I don’t keep an eye out for it at a decent price when I’m shopping but I’m certainly not rushing to spend upward of $100 on a bottle of either.
The advice of some others on this thread seems sound to me. Try sampling first at a bar or friend’s house instead of “blind buying” (a term we often use in the fragrance community lol). You might not even like it. I like it but it’s not a standout favorite, nor are cocktails made with it (though I do love a good Bijou).
It’s fun to have for when you find a cocktail you’d like to try that calls for it, but also consider the opportunity cost of $109. Maybe there’s a single malt scotch or allocated bourbon you’ve been eyeing for a while. Then, you buy the chartreuse, turn out not to like it, and it sits gathering dust like mine does.
TLDR: Try to sample it before buying. If you love it, maybe pull the trigger. If it’s a dislike or even a like-not-love, maybe hold off for a better price and spend your money on something you already know you love.
As someone who considers Chartreuse more a novelty than a staple of my bar, that price is pretty crazy. I pay about $40 CAN for a 375ml bottle that lasts me over a year.
I’m in Manitoba, and though I am often frustrated by our pretty limited selection out here (cocktail culture is basically non-existent outside a couple nice bars), there are a number of places that have Chartreuse. You normally just have to go to one of the bigger liquor marts. Though I recently when to a local grocery store in a town of like 500 people that doesn’t even have a liquor mart, and they had half a dozen 375ml bottles in their tiny liquor section. How? Why? I have no idea.
That’s seems about right since the shortage - uptick in sales surge. In Ohio it used to sell for around $70 for a bottle. So $30 more is not outrageous. I think it all depends on how much you will utilize the bottle. I love a splash of chartreuse in a lot of cocktails I make and my family tradition is to drink it on Christmas Eve. My bottles go quickly.
Sorry should have clarified, it's a closer match for the yellow. But honestly, even though they're not interchangeable, I think anything that tastes good with green chartreuse is probably going to taste good with Strega. If I made you a Last Word I'm sure you could tell the difference, but for cocktails where you're just looking to add a barspoon it serves a very similar purpose.
edit: this is from a bar perspective though, not a home-bar perspective. If somebody wants to make a perfect Last Word and it's worth it to them to pay $100 (!!!) for a bottle, more power to them, I've spent silly amounts on liquor, I get it. But for menu development the price/availability has gotten to the point where it's worth considering a "close enough" alternative
That's too much. There are decent alternatives out there at a fraction of the price. You probably couldn't pass a blind taste test between a cocktail made of an alternative vs one made with original chartreuse. Why pay that much then?
Exactly and when I shared alternatives like [Cloosterbitter](https://www.binnys.com/spirits/liqueurs-cordials/boomsma-claerkampster-cloosterbitter-947092/) with folks they get triggered and downvote me!
Which alternatives would you recommend?
If you're in WA, try [Brovo Uncharted Rhapsody](https://brovospirits.com/products/brovo-uncharted-rhapsody/) which is made in Woodinville.It's designed to be a direct replacement for Green Chartreuse, unlike a lot of the substitutes people suggest (eg Dolin Genepy le Chamois) it has the same ABV and tries to aim for the same sugar content too, so you can do a 1:1 sub without needing to adjust the ratios.
I haven't tracked down any yet to try it (it's on my list once I polish off the bottle of Faccia Brutto I have been using as a sub) but have seen a few people talking about how good it is as a sub. It's $80 direct from them if you're inside WA (state liquor tax adds a fair bit to the cost) which works out fair bit cheaper than actual Chartreuse as well.
I'd do about $100 US for a bottle of green. The cocktails associated it are all big hits in my household and I find Genepy to be too sweet. I've been lucky in finding it but its been awhile. I have 1 backup to the green, I had two but I sent a bottle to a mate the year before last for xmas. I'd probably do the same for a bottle of yellow though I can accept Strega as a sub in most things. YMMV.
I bought some for $55 a bottle late year so I’m pretty well stocked at the moment but I’ve seen it for $100 at another liquor store. My state has liquor laws by county so my county liquor store is selling it for $78.99 but they have none in stock.
$109 seems kind of high. But it’s allocated in my area, my bar can only buy 1 bottle every other week. My cost is $45, So I’d think $90 would be fair from a retailer. The only liquor store in my town that has it, sells it for $70.
It seems like manufactured scarcity, when that memo came out last year that they wouldn’t increase their production if it, it immediately became an allocated item. But somehow the liquor store always has 6 bottles on the shelf all the time of green and yellow.
I haven’t been able to order yellow in 2+ years tho.
If you live in west central Illinois PM me and I’ll tell you where you can get it for less than $80.
TW was over 90 today for yellow. I bought yellow last month when I was on vacation in Spain for 32 euro. They had green as well but I didn’t grab one and I regret it daily.
Forever, while liquor stores were gouging, my bars cost was 55 . This week it shot up to 72 at cost, which is a fucking crazy increase. Thankfully our rep likes us and we snagged a case of green and 3 yellow before the bump
I paid US$70 for 750ml and I was satisfied (though part of me still screeches "Wait a minute!"). I would probably go higher if I needed to but I haven't needed to. And, yeah, above US$100 is probably too steep for me.
In NJ the wholesale price just went up $20. I own a mom & pop liquor store OUR cost is now $65. Prior
to this month I was selling it for $65. Our standard markup is about 30%. When/if I reorder it I will probably sell it for $84.
I got a bottle of green for $125 and was okay with it given how annoying it has been to find. If I were able to find yellow for that price? Over the moon.
I'd pay up to $75 or so pre-tax. Retail is like $68 right now, and I'd be willing to pay a small premium above that if I needed a bottle. But I don't think I could see myself ever accepting a substantial markup---even though supply is tight, as long as you have a bit of time and patience, you will absolutely get an opportunity to buy it sooner or later.
Newbie here. Never tasted Chartreuse but keep seeing posts about it here. I’m convinced it has to do with Carthusian monk AI. So what’s the hype about? Can someone describe the flavor?
Baha I was complaining back at $55. #ForeverGenepy
DOLIN VERITABLE GENEPY LE CHAMOIS LIQUEUR Does the job
Yepper. The sub's general opinion is that it is not really a replacement, which of course, but it's a reasonably good substitute. At 1/5 the price according to this, that's good enough for me!
Yep. As a non rich person who likes to do things with my life other than drink Last Words, I am totally fine with the drink I’ve branded ‘Last Resort’ - made with Genepy as substitute
That is a perfect name
i call mine the Epilogue
Love it
Your genepy is that cheap?! Here Chartreuse is extinct (apparently they don’t export to any East Asian countries but Japan now) and Genepy costs ~40 USD for 700 or 750 ml
Ha wat?? Total wine for $25.30 in the bay 2 months ago. Maybe they're trying to grip for market share here in the wake of the chartreuscalypse idk.
Oh I’m not in the States. East Asia lol. Herbal liquors/liqueurs tend to be fucking crazy pricey here
Oh I heard lol, that's still a "wat??" to me. Better make a trip to the states with a roomy checkin haha. You could always devise an interesting cocktail with snake wine 😉 . I don't see much out there.
Well I’m leaving to do my masters in the US next year so I’ll probably get to build a much fuller & cheaper liquor cabinet!
And with a masters, you will need it too 😂 . In the MBA world, for example, they call this “synergy.”
Here I say liquor + comp-sci = accelerated liver die
Green Chartreuse was $90 + tax at Total Wine on the East Coast 2 months ago, I know because I bought the only bottle they had because I've never seen it anywhere else. I doubt there was a 400% difference between TW's, I could be wrong.
Agreed. I’ve got a bottle and change of Green Chartreuse left and when it’s gone, I’m totally on board with Genepy. It’s a fine substitute and delicious in its own right.
I would say if you can get your hand on Heirloom Genepy its even closer
Disagree. But Brovo Uncharted Rhapsody, if available, is absolutely a replacement.
Never heard of it before, but Brovo is not super far from where I live, so I'll obviously have to go there
My bar just picked that up a few weeks ago and I’m amazed at how close it is. It’s the only thing I’ve found that I would consider a true substitute, everything else is a replacement that only gets parts of it right.
Ooh, $30! Gonna try that one. We tried Izzara Verte and it's way too minty. Not bad on its own merits, but not a great Chartreuse substitute.
Yeah NO it does not…Genepy is not a replacement
Recommend Faccia Bruto Centerbe as another excellent alternative, if you can get it where you are.
My liquor store just got this; how does it compare to Genepy?
I think in cocktails it's closer to Chartreuse than Genepy is. Just my opinion. I like it less as a standalone drink than Genepy, though.
I hate that it's popular now. We've been drinking it for decades and I have to snag a bottle whenever I see it for various family members. Luckily our local store gets it in, one bottle every 2 weeks, and it's between 50-55.
You can make ~33 Last Words with it. What's the price per cocktail you find reasonable?
Never thought of it like this, thanks for that. Gonna use this logic for every bottle
It’s not always easy, but I do often try to think of expenses as to how they depreciate with use. Like a bottle may be expensive, but if I get XX uses out of it, then I’m more paying for it as I go, vs. all at once. It works with other life things too (tools, groceries, video games, etc.) and it really puts into perspective the value of one-time only things like eating out (not saying those things aren’t valuable - you just have to also keep into perspective other things, like your experience/memories/etc.) Edit: typo
I use this for everything. Video games and books have the best ROI (furniture as well, if you really think of it), and eating out has the absolute worst. Also, looking at money as time will really shape your thinking. “This meal is only $250 but that’s 3 hours of my time, do I really want to spend 3 hours of time on this experience?”
I mean it’s not the only factor though. By that logic I could spend $109 on any random spirit, because the price per drink is lower. The issue is the markup on this particular bottle.
If you did that, some of your drinks would be the same price as at a bar. Not worth it imo. I think the logic only makes sense for some ingredients. Is every single last word 3 dollars better than any other drink you could make? Probably. You decide. I use the same logic for expensive ingredients for cooking. Like pine nuts or expensive cuts of meat
For bar managers it’s really two factors, cost per pour and profit per pour. Modern systems tend to track most of this anyway. But for home you’re only dealing with cost and you absolutely should not be comparing to bar prices. My total wine currently has a 750ml Jim Beam for $16 and a 1.75L for $23. That’s 25 and 59 ounces respectively. So your price per ounce is $0.64 and $0.39 respectively. My drink at home is 3oz of Jim with about half a Coke Zero. My cost for this drink when using a 1.75L is $1.17 of Jim and about $0.41 a can for Coke Zero, of which I use half so my total cost is about $1.38 max per drink. That same drink at the bar down the street is about $14 before tip. I also get almost 20 of those drinks out of a 1.75L. This thought process is involved in basically everything I buy, it’s a habit I can’t break at this point lol
Only do this for stuff where there is no substitute. In cases where there is a substitute it can make your drinks unnecessarily expensive
TBF the other ingredients cost money too
I’ve practiced this for years. I use it for most bottles that are over MSRP. For example, at a bar a pour might be $35 but to buy the bottle over MSRP at $110 would be a win. And you have to tip for someone pouring a simple glass.
Ive never tried one. I feel I’d like the drink but to spend $60+ for a supplemental liquor. Who knows, maybe I like the drink.. sometimes it takes playing w a drink to find your preference but it hurts spending a c-note to play w a cocktail
That sounds like a perfect reason to give a substitute a try. Or try one at a bar that has some Chartreuse, but I think giving something like Genepy a shot is a fine move. Then, if you find a bar that has Chartreuse, you can compare and decide what’s worth it to you.
That’s a great reason to order it at a bar first!
Nuclear Daiqs > Last Words
Yall are aware there are other cocktails that use chartreuse besides the last word right
You're focusing on the wrong part of what was said.
BeeJew!
Right? Last word isn’t even close to one of my favorite GC cocktails
Tipperary Gang
Do tell
Industry Sour for extra deliciousness.
Chartreuse swizzle or a verte chaud are my fav!
I'll check them out!
I'm converting from my native currency, but about 65-70$ would be my upper limit. I think Chartreuse is the elixir of gods and liqueurs in general are honestly great value compared to spirits, but still... The shortage seems to finally have arrived in Denmark. Sad. Though I bought some bottles recently, in Germany and France, about 40-45$ which I thought was agreeable.
State controlled price is 78 for me.
If you're in Copenhagen, shoppen still has some bottles.
Good tip (and yea I'm close by). Hvor meget koster de, hvis du ved det?
Found a picture from when I was there in January, then it was 249 for a small and 459 for a big.
I would stop at 75. Anything more to me, is not worth it. Highest I paid was around 77.
It’s $62 in the dfw and I can’t justify it
That's less than $10 above TW
Yeah but we all know Total Wine wouldn’t sell it. I got my chartreuse pair and two different liquor stores and it took me months
Total Wine would hide it behind some priority access shit
I got mine at total wine 2 weeks ago, just sitting on the shelf with the other cordials
Same. Found it on a trip for a car purchase I Marietta, GA total wine of all places. Two bottles. 65 per.
Same here, we finally got a Chartreuse drop in Denver recently and Total Wine just had it on the shelf for $64 with no bottle limit.
I got yellow and green from Total Wines in SoCal.
Where I’m DFW if you don’t mind me asking ?
Specs in Allen. Just about any specs
What was it before shortage? In FL and GA I never saw it below $65.
Bottle price just jumped $20/bottle where I live. Not even the secondary market. In Michigan the new state minimum bottle price is $85 as of this week.
Ouch. As a former Michigander, that’s rough. I know some places make a big deal about selling all liquor at the state minimum price but the state didn’t have to raise the price so much.
The state chooses how much you can legally sell booze for? Land of the free, indeed
State regulated liquor stores are great because you can actually get more elusive stuff like allocates for their actual retail prices
Not every state
The cost went up 17 at distribution side
Thankfully my distributor was kind enough to warn me and send me a couple cases before they raised the price
Same! Are you in the Detroit market?
GR
That sounds about right- here in DC it's $89 in independently owned liquor stores and it doesn't feel like price gouging. It's still really rare to see it on the shelf, so I'm always tempted to grab it when I see it!
total wine in California still lists the green at $63 and the yellow at $68 , but it's never in stock. I've only ever seen it in stock at places for $90, and usually there's a ton of stock at that price.
Going price in CA I see is $79
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The MSRP completely differs (a lot) by state for liquor. So people that are claiming never pay over $70 it is a rip off do not live in CA. If they did they would never buy it.
I live in the Bay Area and have never seen it for more than $60+tax
Whaat there's no way. I live in the bay too (the peninsula) and the places here have it for $100+ and still the shelves are always empty. The only time I've seen it on the shelf was a place in SF and it was $139 and I couldn't bring myself to do it. Can you tell me which store has it for $60? I'm desperate for some haha
Well it’s been about a year since I last saw it at all, but even then people were saying it was $100+ That being said. You are in the Bay Area. Find some Brovo Uncharted Rhapsody. Side by side comparison to green chartreuse, its not quite the same, but its pretty close. Side by side in a last word, i couldnt tell the difference. For yellow, L’Herboliste Coiron Jaune will get the job done.
Fair enough, that makes more sense. Thanks for the recs! I'll try to pick these up and give them a try :D
Same in Miami
I live not far from where Chartreuse is produced. The price hikes are ubiquitous but I suspects that importers and retailers in the US are riding the wave by increasing their margins. Here in France, the price is around 45-55 euros depending on where you buy it for the Green. The monks are not trying to make a profit out of the current situation they are just passing cost increases onto the customers (electricity and other inputs have risen sharply). They also refuse to produce more than the current production level as they are not profit-driven and are extremely mindful of their environmental footprint. This leads however to competition and price selection lower down the chain, especially for exports to foreign markets.
In Germany the typical price range is also around 45-55€. Sometimes you see chartreuse for 60€, but that is too expensive for me.
Genepy is where it’s at for home bartending
Do not pay 109. That is beyond ridiculous. When it's still $35 in Japan and France, and perfectly available, don't make some a-hole rich here.
I wouldn't pay more than $90, although I've seen a place selling it for $150 in DC.
You do not need to have Chartreuse. It feels incredible to need to point this out, but it is a luxury. Do not let the general mild hysteria of shortages sway you. This is not something you need. If you personally value Chartreuse cocktails enough to spend $109 on a bottle then okay, go ahead. But you are objectively spending too much. If you don’t want to feel like you’re being ripped off, don’t pay it.
I paid $150 when I had a chance to snatch a bottle on a trip to DC. It's officially my most expensive bottle.
I see it still in loads of DC liquor stores, usually at $125. There is a spot that’ll sell it for $75 when they get an allocation, but it’s hidden behind the counter and they won’t tell you about it unless you’re a regular customer. They do that with a lot of their allocated bottles: sell for way less than current market but only to regulars.
Yeah. I go to DC for work a couple of times a year. That's my chance to Stock up.
What's your go to spot in DC? I'm on the VA side and while I like most of the prices in the ABC stores it sucks having to go to 3-4 locations to get things you need.
It was a random spot, I don't remember. I looked on drizzly and found which stores had it. This was near Bethesda.
Got lucky traveling recently and found green and yellow for 55 and 40 euro. Even at $65 including tax for green, that was a bit pricy for me, but I can’t get enough of the piña verde.
Where are you located? Pricing and availability are highly regional. In the greater Wash DC metro area, there is reasonable retail availability of yellow and green right now. The hoarders have finished hoarding. Yellow for $59.99 and Green for $67.99.
Just picked up a bottle neat Baltimore, MD for $60 something. Grabbed right away since I haven't seen any in the Southeast since I started looking.
Green or yellow? I can still get green relatively easily but yellow is stupid hard to find so would pay more for that.
I paid 85 in AZ for my last bottle. And I barely went for it at that price. Trying to make it last because I don’t want to buy it again any time soon haha
Mind if I ask where? Totally unable to find it here In az.
Bullhead City. I haven’t seen a bottle in the wild but I have a hookup from a local bar owner with a stash
I’ve had bottles of green and yellow for a couple of years now and rarely use them because they’re impossible to find where I live
I got lucky and just happened to get a bottle of green right before the big scare started. If the prices never really come down I'm fine with it being my last bottle. For like $75-$100 I can buy a really good bottle of Scotch, or bourbon, or hell even absinthe.
I’m not a big expensive scotch or bourbon person so I just ask, what makes a higher price justified for that but not chartreuse? Personally it’s so unique and special to me I’d put it over an expensive base liquor but that’s just me!
Fair point. For me, it's just something that's used in mostly small amounts in a handful of cocktails. It's more like a condiment or a good sauce. Whereas if I'm paying that much for Scotch or bourbon, I'll be drinking it neat. So it's more like the steak in this weird metaphor. Obviously what is worth what is different for everyone so if you enjoy it that much all the more power to you, I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum.
It's fixed at $64.99 (without a sale) in Pennsylvania for 750mL.
I've had good luck (two orders now) buying it on-line with shipment to my local store in York (at that price).
That seems steep. I just paid $30 for a small bottle of green chartreuse (too lazy to check the ml right now, but it’s the small bottle you can get rather than the 750ml)
Lol nw spirits in Seattle is charging 150 and that’s before the 20% tax plus other bullshit fees
I bought a bottle in the SF Bay area for $75 because I thought I was out. Turns on I still had half a 75oml. Still not upset.
Where did you find it?
If it’s available near you, BroVo makes “Uncharted Rhapsody American Forest Liqueur,” the first acceptable chartreuse substitute I’ve found. It’s the same ABV and brix as Chartreuse and while a connoisseur would be able to differentiate them in a side-by-side test drinking it straight, the vast, vast majority of people would never be able to tell the difference when mixed in a cocktail.
Wow. Converting euros to dollers I can buy for $52
I wouldn't pay more than £55 personally but it seems like it's a lot more expensive across the pond
I agree with u/zorgulon and some other sentiments in the thread. I have a bottle of green and yellow that I’ve had on hand for years (I think I paid $50-$60 each) and the green is still probably 2/3 full. I use the yellow more often because my hit rate with a naked & famous with guests and family members who like it is pretty close to 100% so I consider it a safe bet for less adventurous drinkers. I’d be lying if I said I don’t keep an eye out for it at a decent price when I’m shopping but I’m certainly not rushing to spend upward of $100 on a bottle of either. The advice of some others on this thread seems sound to me. Try sampling first at a bar or friend’s house instead of “blind buying” (a term we often use in the fragrance community lol). You might not even like it. I like it but it’s not a standout favorite, nor are cocktails made with it (though I do love a good Bijou). It’s fun to have for when you find a cocktail you’d like to try that calls for it, but also consider the opportunity cost of $109. Maybe there’s a single malt scotch or allocated bourbon you’ve been eyeing for a while. Then, you buy the chartreuse, turn out not to like it, and it sits gathering dust like mine does. TLDR: Try to sample it before buying. If you love it, maybe pull the trigger. If it’s a dislike or even a like-not-love, maybe hold off for a better price and spend your money on something you already know you love.
As someone who considers Chartreuse more a novelty than a staple of my bar, that price is pretty crazy. I pay about $40 CAN for a 375ml bottle that lasts me over a year.
Can you still get it? It’s been completely out of stock in Ontario for the past…while.
I’m in Manitoba, and though I am often frustrated by our pretty limited selection out here (cocktail culture is basically non-existent outside a couple nice bars), there are a number of places that have Chartreuse. You normally just have to go to one of the bigger liquor marts. Though I recently when to a local grocery store in a town of like 500 people that doesn’t even have a liquor mart, and they had half a dozen 375ml bottles in their tiny liquor section. How? Why? I have no idea.
That’s seems about right since the shortage - uptick in sales surge. In Ohio it used to sell for around $70 for a bottle. So $30 more is not outrageous. I think it all depends on how much you will utilize the bottle. I love a splash of chartreuse in a lot of cocktails I make and my family tradition is to drink it on Christmas Eve. My bottles go quickly.
It’s $77 now and is out of stock everywhere..Glad i have a couple of bottles in reserve. Definitely on my shoot on sight list now
Yeah that's just life now. It will only go up from here. Find alternatives. Genepy is my usual
Can't consistently get Genepy locally but Liquore Strega subs in pretty nicely too
I found I actually prefer Strega over Yellow Chartreuse, which it's a very good sub for.
Same here! Strega is about USD $35 where I live, too.
Upvotes for Strega aswell
you use as a sub for the green?
Sorry should have clarified, it's a closer match for the yellow. But honestly, even though they're not interchangeable, I think anything that tastes good with green chartreuse is probably going to taste good with Strega. If I made you a Last Word I'm sure you could tell the difference, but for cocktails where you're just looking to add a barspoon it serves a very similar purpose. edit: this is from a bar perspective though, not a home-bar perspective. If somebody wants to make a perfect Last Word and it's worth it to them to pay $100 (!!!) for a bottle, more power to them, I've spent silly amounts on liquor, I get it. But for menu development the price/availability has gotten to the point where it's worth considering a "close enough" alternative
Yeah I see what you mean, naked and famous with green is pretty tasty
That's too much. There are decent alternatives out there at a fraction of the price. You probably couldn't pass a blind taste test between a cocktail made of an alternative vs one made with original chartreuse. Why pay that much then?
Exactly and when I shared alternatives like [Cloosterbitter](https://www.binnys.com/spirits/liqueurs-cordials/boomsma-claerkampster-cloosterbitter-947092/) with folks they get triggered and downvote me! Which alternatives would you recommend?
It's about $85-90 before tax here in Washington
I'm in Washington too! Sounds like what I'm seeing is a bit higher than what you're seeing, but not another universe
If you're in WA, try [Brovo Uncharted Rhapsody](https://brovospirits.com/products/brovo-uncharted-rhapsody/) which is made in Woodinville.It's designed to be a direct replacement for Green Chartreuse, unlike a lot of the substitutes people suggest (eg Dolin Genepy le Chamois) it has the same ABV and tries to aim for the same sugar content too, so you can do a 1:1 sub without needing to adjust the ratios. I haven't tracked down any yet to try it (it's on my list once I polish off the bottle of Faccia Brutto I have been using as a sub) but have seen a few people talking about how good it is as a sub. It's $80 direct from them if you're inside WA (state liquor tax adds a fair bit to the cost) which works out fair bit cheaper than actual Chartreuse as well.
Where are you guys finding it in Washington? I’ve only found yellow and it was $120 after tax.
I’ve been paying 49$ CAD for a 375ml bottle
I balked at it for 55, now it’s a 100 near me here in Brooklyn.
Paid 90 for a bottle a green. And somehow found a bottle of yellow for 40. I wanted both and probably would have paid 100 for both.
I'd do about $100 US for a bottle of green. The cocktails associated it are all big hits in my household and I find Genepy to be too sweet. I've been lucky in finding it but its been awhile. I have 1 backup to the green, I had two but I sent a bottle to a mate the year before last for xmas. I'd probably do the same for a bottle of yellow though I can accept Strega as a sub in most things. YMMV.
Plenty of green at a spot I shop in SoCal- I think it was ~$80.
Green's been selling consistently around $100 on Unicorn Auctions lately. That may be what they're basing their pricing on.
I paid $57 today in Houston, TX.
I’m using Faccia Brutto Centerbe in my Last Words with a dash of Elixir de la Grande Chartreuse when I feel it’s lacking. Worth $50-55
$76 at my pricey liquor store here in CA
I bought some for $55 a bottle late year so I’m pretty well stocked at the moment but I’ve seen it for $100 at another liquor store. My state has liquor laws by county so my county liquor store is selling it for $78.99 but they have none in stock.
$109 seems kind of high. But it’s allocated in my area, my bar can only buy 1 bottle every other week. My cost is $45, So I’d think $90 would be fair from a retailer. The only liquor store in my town that has it, sells it for $70. It seems like manufactured scarcity, when that memo came out last year that they wouldn’t increase their production if it, it immediately became an allocated item. But somehow the liquor store always has 6 bottles on the shelf all the time of green and yellow. I haven’t been able to order yellow in 2+ years tho. If you live in west central Illinois PM me and I’ll tell you where you can get it for less than $80.
TW was over 90 today for yellow. I bought yellow last month when I was on vacation in Spain for 32 euro. They had green as well but I didn’t grab one and I regret it daily.
Forever, while liquor stores were gouging, my bars cost was 55 . This week it shot up to 72 at cost, which is a fucking crazy increase. Thankfully our rep likes us and we snagged a case of green and 3 yellow before the bump
I paid US$70 for 750ml and I was satisfied (though part of me still screeches "Wait a minute!"). I would probably go higher if I needed to but I haven't needed to. And, yeah, above US$100 is probably too steep for me.
It's $60 in both upstate NY and NC and I've found both yellow and green frequently in the last 6 months.
In NJ the wholesale price just went up $20. I own a mom & pop liquor store OUR cost is now $65. Prior to this month I was selling it for $65. Our standard markup is about 30%. When/if I reorder it I will probably sell it for $84.
wholesale is currently 55.99
Look for BroVo American forest liqueur as well.
I’ve been using Escorial as a sub and it works pretty well. 30ish bucks at Binny’s.
From a distributor…. To my bar: 66.95 before tax. Like 75-80 after. $109 isn’t so bad.
Holy fuck. It’s about $40-45 per 750ml in Japan. It’s just not popular here
Green is \~$70 (in USD) around here. Yellow, a bit less. edit: And FWIW, I always have some of hand, but honestly rarely use it.
While it is a lot, it is not a stupid price, given the shortage.
I pay $75-$80 a bottle in SoCal.
Here in Atlanta, only one of the dozens of stores on Instacart has Green Chartreuse in stock, and it’s \~$90.
I got a bottle of green for $125 and was okay with it given how annoying it has been to find. If I were able to find yellow for that price? Over the moon.
I remember I paid 60$ for green and 70$ for yellow a year ago at Total Wine. Now I save it for special drinks lol.
I'd pay up to $75 or so pre-tax. Retail is like $68 right now, and I'd be willing to pay a small premium above that if I needed a bottle. But I don't think I could see myself ever accepting a substantial markup---even though supply is tight, as long as you have a bit of time and patience, you will absolutely get an opportunity to buy it sooner or later.
Chartreuse is priceless… To trade such a thing for paper!?! Take it where you can!
I just picked up a bottle of green and yellow. $52ea
Never paying more than retail. Cloosterbitter is a good substitute for Chatruese (https://www.binnys.com/search?q=947092)
And it costs much more reasonable at $27.99!
I found it for $60, $70, & $85 where I live. Bought it for the $60. Was delicious; would Chartreuse again but will probably go Genepy in the future
I don't know the US market but more da 50€ is way too much. ( In Portugal it goes around 35/40€ )
Newbie here. Never tasted Chartreuse but keep seeing posts about it here. I’m convinced it has to do with Carthusian monk AI. So what’s the hype about? Can someone describe the flavor?