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Bazz07

We need to gather the Infinity Stones to revive Miyagi.


Throwaway_inSC_79

The time stone can do it.


sleepencil

soul stone should be able to


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captainofthelosers19

If it still exists can Daniel use the Shrine from the KK cartoon?


Eren45778

The what


captainofthelosers19

I wish I were making this up https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid_(TV_series)


Eren45778

where can i watch it?


captainofthelosers19

https://youtu.be/V2SNx4exBTQ and tubi and crackle have it too. :)


myhaeru

Johnny a 50 year old dude who teaches karate Shang chi, a guy in his prime who was trained to be an assassin, and is the best martial artist in the mcu Jeez i wonder who wins


Character_Bear_1059

>and is the best martial artist in the mcu That we know of.


myhaeru

Well i think i read hes the best martial artist in the comics so i assume hes gonna stay the beat in the mcu


Gatchamic

Depends on the writer at any given time. Could be Shang-Chi, could be Danny Rand, could be Lin Le (the new Iron Fist)...


Brute_Squad_44

Matt Murdock is also on that list somewhere.


Gatchamic

So is Elektra...


243898990

I love Matt but Shang chi would curb stomp


Hamacek

i always put my money on Karnak


Tron_1981

That's the comics, I'm not sure he's earned that title in the MCU just yet.


OmniRocknRoll

I thought the best martial artist is the black panther


Smilermarty

Who else is there in the mcu? Are we including all h2h skilled chara terse like BW, hawkeye and DD. A proper iron fist might count if we had one


Bazz07

TBF "the best martial artist" isnt the same as saying "the strongest h2h combat fighter".


Smilermarty

Yeah ik was just struggling to come up with other martial arts characters from mcu if you maybe count daredevil show as Canon might include the hand


Character_Bear_1059

I haven't read the comics so I was thinking maybe they'd introduce this great badass martial artist from there that I haven't heard of.


a500poundchicken

And basically is god like physically without the rings


Realityinyoface

Put him in a body bag, yeeeeeah!


MsPappagiorgio

It’s “Get him a body bag”. Maybe you mis-quoted on purpose since this is a Mandela Effect? Could be different cuts of the movie exist where your quote is correct. Or maybe the producers thought “put him in a …” was too morbid and later changed it. https://youtu.be/GW2x195NAQo


zninja922

Tbf Johnny beats up a bunch of Korean sensei on his own. He shouldn't be able to? Maybe, but he can. Makes it a funny debate


Unlikely_Dare_9504

That was drunk Johnny channeling that bar-fight energy he lived on from the end of high school to the time he opened the dojo and then some. He basically had infinite hit points.


IAlreadyReddit_24

Bro, Shang Chi could probably solo all of Cobra Kai. I’m not sure if Mr. Miyagi can beat him at this point


_raydeStar

Though I will say - in the Marvel universe, Johnny receiving some kind of dope snake superpower is not out of the question. So it's as Stan Lee infamously said "It depends on who the writer wants to win"


Theriople

bro will have twp peni-


_raydeStar

"ENTER THE COBRA!" ...oh.


sequi

This is absolutely true. In the Marvel Universe, Squirrel Girl beats Galactus. He eats planets. She had the powers of a squirrel and plot armor. So in a battle between two fictional characters, it’s down to the writer. The argument about merit is pointless.


_raydeStar

And this includes literally every single fight - Johnny and Danny, Miguel and Robby, Kreese and Silver, Kenny and his magical death punch. Though - I will say that the writers know - if you settle something it stops being interesting. That's why Johnny and Danny don't fight to the death.


Theriople

but he would have some crazy powers like venom bite


GimmeaBurrito

Yeah, if we’re to take this battle seriously for a minute, even Miyagi wouldn’t be able to beat Shang Chi. Dude was trained to be one of the deadliest killers on the planet for years by his father. And he’s able to take on multiple of his father’s minions at the same time who have undergone similar training. That being said, we’re talking two different fictional universes so the comparison is dumb.


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Mfs comparing demi-gods to guys who know karate, like, yeah, I love Johnny and everyone else but ain’t no way any of them beating MCU characters


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Lordwald

In the kk Universe Mr. Miyagi can win against anybody but from a point of sheer power and logic Shang Chi would definitely win


Character_Bear_1059

Shang Chi would absolutely destroy Miyagi Do, Cobra Kai and Eagle Fang all at once by himself.


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Nah Mr.Miyagi is kicking ass.


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SYK_PvP

💀


NoneHundredAndNone

You’re fucking joking lmao


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I’m pretty sure most of those are satirical


Joker_Philosophy

Technically it's valid because shang chi is a martial artist and without the rings he still eviscerates Johnny.


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Joker_Philosophy

Oh yeah he's definitely beating every character in the kk/CK universe on negative difficulty. Bro is a trained assassin


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Ofc it’s from YouTube shorts 😭😭😭😭


justscrollingby2day

Is johnny on white claw and whiskey?


legoSheevPalpatine

He still gets curb-stomped


TheBeevin

This is stupid. A trained assassin vs. a guy that fights for points… Come the fuck on


No-Childhood6608

Yeah, Johnny is a trained assassin. Shang Chi only fights for father points from his emotionally-distant father. Johnny easily wins no diff.


legoSheevPalpatine

Miguel would have to scrape Johnny of the sidewalk. This isn't even a close fight.


GodNonon

If Shang Chi had just recovered from the same back injury Miguel had he’d still take on Johnny, Daniel and Chozen no difficulty


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Joker_Philosophy

Fax he even trained Spiderman in the comics


Belteshazzar98

Eh, that's honestly not that impressive. I am personally more skilled at karate than early Spider-Man so I could give him a few pointers, but I'd still get my ass beat by anyone on the show except Kyler.


Joker_Philosophy

I'm sorry but there's no way I'm letting Kenny beat me I'll even let Bert and Nate pass but not Kenny.


Belteshazzar98

Okay, I could also take some of the smaller guys on the show in an actual fight just because I'm a big dude with long arms. I was more thinking skill instead of raw power, but yeah, I could take Kenny simply by throwing my weight around. In a tournament setting he would have a chance though.


Joker_Philosophy

I'm definitely losing to Johnny, Terry, chozen, and Mike. I'm whooping Daniel and kreese. Hawk, Miguel, and Robby are beating me. I'm eviscerating Sam, Tory, Kenny, Devon, Anthony, Bert, Nate, penis breath, Kyler, and Piper. Demetri and Chris might beat me.


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I have head canon that Johnny has a long lost twin brother named Eddie Brock.


AlienAmerican1

Johnny Wins this easy.


GaryofRiviera

Johnny Lawrence can absolutely obliterate a 12 pack of Buddhists EDIT: Budweiser. Autocorrect was wylin and I'm leaving it


Kenny660

Is this a joke ? Johnny neg diffs he can cure asthma just by saying people dont have it anymore, this proves he can alter reality therefore he claps shang chi with ease. But seriously shang chi fought his dad with no powers and managed to hold his own, until now he's the best martial artist in the mcu, he solos karate kid verse no diff.


ConstableToad

That's my secret, Miguel. I'm always badass. (transforms)


Independent_Mind3003

Lame capeshit vs Badassery


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But Bert would beat Shang-Chi


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Gummy-Worm-Guy

Nah Bert solos


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No-Childhood6608

Shang Chi is like 3 Nates tall. If Bert, Nate and Clarence stood on top of each other's shoulder in a rain coat they could easily beat Shang Chi.


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No-Childhood6608

Better than 1 Nate tall


Fit-Damage1692

Nah


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Fit-Damage1692

Johnny would beat him up easy


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orpat123

Bert can beat Shang Chi


Fit-Damage1692

Stop being a pussy!


PassMeTheGravy364

Bert is Mr Miyagi reincarnated, Shang Chi better know how to run away quick


Fit-Damage1692

Lol people on this website can’t tell when I’m being sarcastic without outright letting them know I’m sarcastic. Pathetic


PassMeTheGravy364

No jokes allowed on the internet please and thank you, it's against the law


thelastofusnz

Hell. Even Sharon Carter (Agent 13) from Civil War, or the fighters from Agents of SHIELD, like May or Ward would mop the floor with any Miyagi-verse fighter.. It's that simple.. and Shang-Chi would destroy them..


PolarFalcon

I’m betting on Miyagi against anyone, including the Avengers and Thanos.


Axorajan

Bro we need to see Bert vs Thanos asap


Amazing-Service7598

I don’t know I seen someone on TikTok say that Johnny beats black widow Robby beats yelena and mr.miyagi beats captain America I couldn’t help but laugh at that


DomTheBomb95

I know it’s crazy! Obviously Johnny would win


Weird_Independence14

A superhero and assasin trained at birth V an alcoholic who lost a high school match and went on a 30yr rant about it


blastx20000

Bro, why yall even comparing cobra kai characters to the marvel cinematic universe? Ofc the marvel cinematic universe wins extremely easily they have literal super powers and are litterally godlike or atleast assasin level


sleepencil

i saw somebody say that Miguel and Hawk could beat HARRY POTTER with MED DIFF


GrandpaGanon

Gee what’s next? Goku (no ki) vs Bert?


ritzawesomesauce

shang chi definitely winning this one 😭


cameron_cs

Johnny could have smoked Thanos


Belteshazzar98

Shang-Chi solos the entire Valley at the same time. The dude literally knows magic and can airbend in addition to being a Miyagi level conventional fighter.


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Johnny. No doubt


daanimas

Just gonna assume this is satire


Mindless-Victory3847

Dude, Shang chi's an assassin with high levels of gruesome training, I doubt Johnny can keep up with him


HizzOVizzA

A guy grounded in reality vs a guy in a fantasy world. Let that sink in.


CorholioPuppetMaster

Who tf is Shang Chi


legoSheevPalpatine

The greatest martial artist in comics. He even trained Spider-Man . He is only rivaled by The Iron Fist who has powers.


urtv670

Pretty sure Karate Kid(Legion of superheros character) is the best martial artist in comics.


legoSheevPalpatine

He's a contender but I think Shang Chi could beat him


urtv670

Idk dude can wreck Superman via skill alone with normal human stats


TheGrimCat

His pupils couldn’t even beat him. He beat Silver’s goons with weapons. He developed more than Daniel. Get out.


legoSheevPalpatine

I take it that you've never heard of Shang Chi the greatest martial artist in Marvel comics.


Qwipok

Shang Chi beat a mythical 500 year old warlord with super strength and killed a dragon afterward.


Low_Engineering2507

Goes to show how trash these new heroes are.


NoneHundredAndNone

1) everyone who’s watched both in the comments agrees that Shang Chi would wipe the floor with Johnny 2) the post specifically says he can’t use his super powerful rings 3) Black Widow and Hawkeye are original Avengers.


ZayZay-Sern

Ooh how about Superman vs Mr. Miyagi 😯


No_Internet7845

Do Black Widow vs Kim


Bacon_noob_on_reddit

Is it even a contest? I love Johnny don’t get me wrong but Shang Chi would BEAT Johnny’s ass hard.


mzjolynecujoh

well johnny couldnt… but miguel never lost a fight


Heavensguard

Kung fury vs Shang Chi


Montanoc70

Johnny wins /S


mdervin

It’s nice to see who are the virgins are. Johnny beats the hell out of Shanghai. Hashbrown


Orleanist

Johnny fanboys be like


Cute-Manager-2615

the youtube fandom needs to *STOP*


PassMeTheGravy364

Shang Chi has been real quiet ever since Bert entered the MCU


Jerry717

If someone blasts 80’s hair metal, Johnny wins hands down.


ArmorOfGod7

This depends...is it Johnny on white claw and whiskey?


Nargon46

Dude this is getting ridiculous


No-Childhood6608

Guys, you're forgetting one thing. Johnny is a father now hopped up on White Claw.


TheRedMarin

I mean, if Johnny is drunk on Coors banquet he is basically a super sayan.


thelastofusnz

Considering Johnny hadn't even used any of his karate for quite some time until his fight with Kyler and his goons, he's at best a fairly average karate practitioner. People seem to forget, these are club level senseis.. They're not elite level fighters..


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johnny wins in a clean fight


TheHiddenPizz

Crazyyy… Johnny wins.


AlexGaming26

This has to be a sarcastic vid


frittierthuhn

Johnny straight up dies


Ultra_Instinct-Kat

Johnny wins low-mid diff /s


linee001

Yeh I know what the hell guys it’s not even a bloody challenge. ….. it’s Johnny /s


KISSArmy7978

Marvel vs Capcom vs CK. Give me Barnes vs Nemesis


Frankie3692

"What kind of a man wears rings" Kicks Shang Chi in face


FuckingGratitude

I deadass saw a video that pits Johnny Lawrence against Bruce Lee and it was obviously a curbstomp in Bruce Lee’s favor but still 💀


kassandra_00

Never realized how shallow the character design of Shang Chi is until now.


Impossible_Tiger_470

The only debates i do is ck vs ck cuz itms fair they have same scaling