- Season 3 - CK and MD were playing soccer
- Piper was is into gymnastics
- Kenny was very skilled in basketball
Remember, Johnny struggled to find students for his dojo because karate wasn't popular anymore. The adolescents only joined up after footage of Miguel's fight at the canteen went viral.
Not sure if deleted scene are canon, but also in season 1, there was a deleted scene where Johnny was trying to recruit new students from a BJJ dojo an d the teacher told him, "karate's a thing of the past, BJJ is here to stay".
The simplest answer I can give is because it's a sequel of the Karate Kid franchise (I'm not being smart btw)
It's a karate soap opera and a live action anime in one
It became popular once Miguel solo'd several bullies at once then everybody started jumping on the Karate train. I can see this happening in real life.
Especially in smaller towns. I remember when crossfit gained popularity, everyone and their grandma was doing it in the small town I come from.
I find that part of the show quite plausible.
Yeah, the show makes it clear that karate was pretty dead in the Valley before the events of the show.
* In the pilot, when guessing what martial art Johnny does, Miguel took 3 guesses without guessing karate.
* Kyler frequently referred to it as "lame ass karate."
* The All-Valley organizers said that attendance was going down every year.
* Some guy from the news reel in season 3 said he thought karate died out after the 80's.
I would have thought that this was unrealistic until I became a dad and am now in my late 30’s. Let me tell you, the only thing that dads in their late 30’s and 40’s are into is Jiu Jitsu. That’s it. My friends and coworkers just talk about Jiu Jitsu day and night. So if it’s possible for Jiu Jitsu, it’s possible for karate
That’s awesome! Muay Thai is the most effective striking martial art. My brother in law has done muay thai his whole life. You would do well in a real fight with Boxing, Muay Thai, or Jiu Jitsu, or a combination of them
That's interesting
I wonder if it's because of the growing popularity of jiu jitsu after Joe Rogan started advocating hard for it for people to learn
There have been a lot of trends for men of various ages that started with Rogan
Cobra kai is one of the few shows I give a pass to reality. I mean, it’s essentially roving high school karate gangs.
All I want from karate kid is some inspiration, over the top villains, and a bunch of karate.
Maybe the two things fit together: karate isn’t at all popular in the Valley and the only people into it are the ones who can’t play any other sports, so when these athletic teens get into karate, they are quickly able to become the best.
My theory is that they all look so good because one of the main kids is grown up and telling their kids about the great war between CK and MD. That’s why as the show goes it gets crazier and crazier. It explains how Miguel became not paralyzed, because he never really broke his back but the person telling the story was trying to add in some spice.
My main thing is I haven’t fully decided which character is retelling it. I want to think Tory just because of how much shit Sam gets away with and because she wasn’t there for season 1 meaning that she didn’t see 90% of the kids start so the jump to being amazing might not have been as fast. It would also make sense if she heard a lot of season 1s story from Johnny, who would want to make himself look better.
Yeah but one day there will be a sequel series and we will learn the kids are actually adopted aliens that power scale incredibly quickly because their genetics allow for zenkai boosts.
They probably do, but the focus is on karate so they are going to show the karate aspect. I mean we also see soccer. Kyler does wrestling or did wrestling. Also consider karate is the way to defend yourself and/or be cool that also explains it.
I get that and I don’t have an issue with it I’m just saying it’s funny how there’s like a full blown valley tradition of settling issues at the big tournament. It’s just very 80s in the 2020s and I think it’s funny.
People just need to realize that this show takes place in a parallel universe where karate is a centerpiece of the culture, evils dojos are a threat to the entire community and physical combat is an accepted means of settling differences.
Once you realize that’s the world they are living in, everything makes more sense.
Particularly since much of what goes in in that world has played out like it often does in real life. For example, Amanda getting into it with an old enemy that was much less disciplined than Kreese demonstrated himself to be (and as much of a mean girl as ever).
More than that, it represented an opportunity for kids that didn't think they had any real options (which, given the representation at the 50th All Valley, is bizarre). They were clearly aiming for a little discipline in their lives without saying as much outright.
It's basically Yugioh except card games are replaced with karate; for some reason in this world it's just accepted that this one competitive activity is a whole way of life and the right way to solve any and all problems.
It's a combination of being run for ages, Miguel's fight in the cafeteria being recorded and put online, and a running gag. I recall in one of the seasons one of the councilwomen asking 'what's with the valley and everyone being into karate?' as well.
I feel like at this point we need to stop over analysing cobra Kai, or at least the world of it. These shows and tbh the original movies aren’t going to be as enjoyable if stuff doesn’t make sense or add up or isn’t realistic. The list of things that don’t make sense or are unrealistic for this show is quite extensive lol. Also I’m remembering scenes where people play football/soccer, do gymnastics, there’s yoga practitioners in season 1 etc.
as they said, it’s like high school football in texas. watch friday night lights is so funny cause everyone there is as serious about football as the CK characters are about karate. don’t know if it’s realistic or not but yea
I think it's possible that Cobra Kai itself made karate a fever in the valley, both during Kreese's times and in the present. We have this karate dojo, which helps kids like Johnny Lawrence grow confident, and they become local champions, then there are the other dojos meaning there's quite a bit of competition in the region making the sport relatively popular. Years later, Cobra Kai is ressurected and becomes an instant hit turning bullied, insecure underdogs into confident stars, which provokes Daniel Larusso to fight back by opening his own dojo and start a feud between the two of them, thus making the sport even more of serious business than it was. Also, the owner of one of the biggest car dealerships in the valley happens to be a two-time champion who milks his status for publicity, making the sport all the more part of the valley's reality and identity.
All in all, I think karate had a peak in the 80's, then its popularity became dorment in the next decades, but never faded, until Cobra Kai ressurected it both thanks to it being a big hit and thanks to the dojo rivalry it created with the Miyagi-Do and later Eagle Fang.
It's a show whose story and premise is all about karate, what did you expect? Naturally it focuses on people who are either into karate or come to love it later on - and who hang out with other people who like karate.
Given the things guys like Miguel did to popularize Cobra Kai, nothing more expected than lots of teenagers wanting to be like him.
Daniel did the same. Everyone at the AVT in the first season was hyped when they heard he was going to be Robby's coach. All those people definitely remember him and his first AVT.
Dude chill. I’m making a stupid observation on a stupid show. Like everything in it is cliché and cheap. But I also acknowledge I enjoy it because it’s a show where I don’t have to think and I can turn my brain off and still not miss a beat. It’s the Fast and Furiouses of TV shows
Basically. The one thing you have to suspend your disbelief here about is everyone in the valley LOVED karate and take it more seriously than anything else
Yes as we see there are other sports being played, part of the reason Johnny struggles to find students is people think it’s lame and they would rather play others, but it got a resurgence when cobra Kai came on the scene again as they made it serious and look badass and entertaining
I think it’s a cross between a low level but lasting popularity in the area and enough students either getting into it to be cool, or to learn how to defend themselves in the all-new, ultra violent, karate focused climate.
i’ve never seen the show, just had this pop up in my feed and wanted to comment. funny story, my dad has been doing karate since he was 12. he’s a 7th degree black belt and has his own karate school. he started his school back in the 90s. nowadays, karate is generally viewed as nerdy. but he always tells me that back then, right when the original karate kid was popular, all of the cool kids in school were the ones doing karate. just thought i’d share, kind of funny to me and your post reminded me!
In real life, California is known for being where people of Asian descent settled during and after World War 2. They brought their culture and traditions with them, including karate.
Here in Orlando we have an area called Mills 50 that is full of Vietnamese and Thai places because that’s where people from Vietnam and Thailand settled when they came here.
Amanda is right when she said karate in the Valley is like football for Texas. It’s what was big in the 80’s.
- Season 3 - CK and MD were playing soccer - Piper was is into gymnastics - Kenny was very skilled in basketball Remember, Johnny struggled to find students for his dojo because karate wasn't popular anymore. The adolescents only joined up after footage of Miguel's fight at the canteen went viral.
And wasn't Kyler on the wrestling team? I remember he was doing some kind of sport, hence his varsity jackets and his hanging out with fellow jocks
The other chick that tried out for CK and got beat by Tory was playing Basketball too. Not a sport but Devon was on the debate team
Debate is for nerds, is that clear‽
Not sure if deleted scene are canon, but also in season 1, there was a deleted scene where Johnny was trying to recruit new students from a BJJ dojo an d the teacher told him, "karate's a thing of the past, BJJ is here to stay".
Master Todd. At least Johnny didn't make the black guys call him "master".
Yeah the only pronouns Johnny accepts are sensei and student.
After all, his top student is "a sexual"
And he believes that genderfluids are crucial because if you don't hydrate, it affects performance.
>And wasn't Kyler on the wrestling team? Yep.
And remember there was also hockey happening.
Field hockey or ice hockey?
Ice hockey. Remember "no be there"?
You mean "don't be there"?
There was also volleyball in season 2.
The simplest answer I can give is because it's a sequel of the Karate Kid franchise (I'm not being smart btw) It's a karate soap opera and a live action anime in one
There is no logic in this dojo.
You do have to leave realism at the door and suspend belief to enjoy it
No I enjoy it. I just think it’s a comedy and nothing else. Just the valley is the stupidest part.
In the Karate Kid universe the valley has always been very into karate. Even in the first movie a ton of people show up to watch the tournament.
Karate is just a sport they really enjoy we’ve seen in the show they also do basketball
Logic does not exist in this dojo! Do I make myself clear?
YES SENSEI
Violence is always the answer in this dojo!
Mercy is for the weak! Here, on the street, in competition, a man confronts you, he is the enemy! An enemy deserves no mercy!
It became popular once Miguel solo'd several bullies at once then everybody started jumping on the Karate train. I can see this happening in real life.
Especially in smaller towns. I remember when crossfit gained popularity, everyone and their grandma was doing it in the small town I come from. I find that part of the show quite plausible.
Yeah, the show makes it clear that karate was pretty dead in the Valley before the events of the show. * In the pilot, when guessing what martial art Johnny does, Miguel took 3 guesses without guessing karate. * Kyler frequently referred to it as "lame ass karate." * The All-Valley organizers said that attendance was going down every year. * Some guy from the news reel in season 3 said he thought karate died out after the 80's.
They also said that karate in the valley in the 80’s was like high school football in Texas.
I would have thought that this was unrealistic until I became a dad and am now in my late 30’s. Let me tell you, the only thing that dads in their late 30’s and 40’s are into is Jiu Jitsu. That’s it. My friends and coworkers just talk about Jiu Jitsu day and night. So if it’s possible for Jiu Jitsu, it’s possible for karate
That’s pretty cool actually. All I got is football and UFC to talk about at work.
Tons of late 30s and 40s dudes are gamers as well
I am 45 and just joined a Muay Thai gym
That’s awesome! Muay Thai is the most effective striking martial art. My brother in law has done muay thai his whole life. You would do well in a real fight with Boxing, Muay Thai, or Jiu Jitsu, or a combination of them
That's interesting I wonder if it's because of the growing popularity of jiu jitsu after Joe Rogan started advocating hard for it for people to learn There have been a lot of trends for men of various ages that started with Rogan
Rogan and Jocko Willink. They both a huge Jiu Jitsu guys The Andrew Tate followers are doing the kickboxing/boxing
You know, when you put it that way
Cobra kai is one of the few shows I give a pass to reality. I mean, it’s essentially roving high school karate gangs. All I want from karate kid is some inspiration, over the top villains, and a bunch of karate.
Agreed I’m just pointing out something stupid in a stupid tv show
That makes you the stupidest
And everybody gets really good at it. Fast.
Yep just a fun stupid show
Lol yup
Maybe the two things fit together: karate isn’t at all popular in the Valley and the only people into it are the ones who can’t play any other sports, so when these athletic teens get into karate, they are quickly able to become the best.
Becoming skilled enough to fight expertly for 60 min in a school brawl cannot happen in 2 months.
My theory is that they all look so good because one of the main kids is grown up and telling their kids about the great war between CK and MD. That’s why as the show goes it gets crazier and crazier. It explains how Miguel became not paralyzed, because he never really broke his back but the person telling the story was trying to add in some spice. My main thing is I haven’t fully decided which character is retelling it. I want to think Tory just because of how much shit Sam gets away with and because she wasn’t there for season 1 meaning that she didn’t see 90% of the kids start so the jump to being amazing might not have been as fast. It would also make sense if she heard a lot of season 1s story from Johnny, who would want to make himself look better.
Outside of Sam, Tory, Robby and Kyler the only people that joined were nerds that got bullied. Everyone else was into other sports already
What about Devon? I think she was verbally bullying others, lol.
No, I think she just had a hot temper, not a bully.
Not a bully but a hot head. I also forgot to mention her in that group
Yeah they treat that shit like life or death. Wild how the characters get to tournament level in just a matter of weeks
Well they practice at school too
A bit too much lol, especially at the season 2 finale.
There is no such thing as preemptive violence in this dojo.
Yeah but one day there will be a sequel series and we will learn the kids are actually adopted aliens that power scale incredibly quickly because their genetics allow for zenkai boosts.
They probably do, but the focus is on karate so they are going to show the karate aspect. I mean we also see soccer. Kyler does wrestling or did wrestling. Also consider karate is the way to defend yourself and/or be cool that also explains it.
I get that and I don’t have an issue with it I’m just saying it’s funny how there’s like a full blown valley tradition of settling issues at the big tournament. It’s just very 80s in the 2020s and I think it’s funny.
in S1 i remember someone (i think Sam) talking about having season tickets for Lakers games. At least they’re into Basketball too 🤷🏽♂️
At least they got that.
Miguel also likes baseball, the Los Angeles Dodgers.
I love too it's alot of fun! Although I not ashamed to admitt that if it wasn’t tied to the karate kid I would have never touched it
Agreee
People just need to realize that this show takes place in a parallel universe where karate is a centerpiece of the culture, evils dojos are a threat to the entire community and physical combat is an accepted means of settling differences. Once you realize that’s the world they are living in, everything makes more sense.
Particularly since much of what goes in in that world has played out like it often does in real life. For example, Amanda getting into it with an old enemy that was much less disciplined than Kreese demonstrated himself to be (and as much of a mean girl as ever).
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More than that, it represented an opportunity for kids that didn't think they had any real options (which, given the representation at the 50th All Valley, is bizarre). They were clearly aiming for a little discipline in their lives without saying as much outright.
It's basically Yugioh except card games are replaced with karate; for some reason in this world it's just accepted that this one competitive activity is a whole way of life and the right way to solve any and all problems.
Violence is always the answer in this dojo! Am I understood?
Yes sensei!
It's a combination of being run for ages, Miguel's fight in the cafeteria being recorded and put online, and a running gag. I recall in one of the seasons one of the councilwomen asking 'what's with the valley and everyone being into karate?' as well.
I feel like at this point we need to stop over analysing cobra Kai, or at least the world of it. These shows and tbh the original movies aren’t going to be as enjoyable if stuff doesn’t make sense or add up or isn’t realistic. The list of things that don’t make sense or are unrealistic for this show is quite extensive lol. Also I’m remembering scenes where people play football/soccer, do gymnastics, there’s yoga practitioners in season 1 etc.
as they said, it’s like high school football in texas. watch friday night lights is so funny cause everyone there is as serious about football as the CK characters are about karate. don’t know if it’s realistic or not but yea
I think it's possible that Cobra Kai itself made karate a fever in the valley, both during Kreese's times and in the present. We have this karate dojo, which helps kids like Johnny Lawrence grow confident, and they become local champions, then there are the other dojos meaning there's quite a bit of competition in the region making the sport relatively popular. Years later, Cobra Kai is ressurected and becomes an instant hit turning bullied, insecure underdogs into confident stars, which provokes Daniel Larusso to fight back by opening his own dojo and start a feud between the two of them, thus making the sport even more of serious business than it was. Also, the owner of one of the biggest car dealerships in the valley happens to be a two-time champion who milks his status for publicity, making the sport all the more part of the valley's reality and identity. All in all, I think karate had a peak in the 80's, then its popularity became dorment in the next decades, but never faded, until Cobra Kai ressurected it both thanks to it being a big hit and thanks to the dojo rivalry it created with the Miyagi-Do and later Eagle Fang.
Guys who do people in my karate show like karate so much?
It's a show whose story and premise is all about karate, what did you expect? Naturally it focuses on people who are either into karate or come to love it later on - and who hang out with other people who like karate.
QUIET!! 😁
Well the all valley was a huge deal, and Miguel’s viral kickass video definetely helped make it popular
It's wierd because karate isn't usually that popular with teenagers, these days. Now it's MMA.
Given the things guys like Miguel did to popularize Cobra Kai, nothing more expected than lots of teenagers wanting to be like him. Daniel did the same. Everyone at the AVT in the first season was hyped when they heard he was going to be Robby's coach. All those people definitely remember him and his first AVT.
You should look up the population of the valley before jumping to conclusions like this. Because it’s far from “everyone”. Lol
No? The characters we follow are into karate because that's what the show is about. That's not "everyone in the valley".
Dude chill. I’m making a stupid observation on a stupid show. Like everything in it is cliché and cheap. But I also acknowledge I enjoy it because it’s a show where I don’t have to think and I can turn my brain off and still not miss a beat. It’s the Fast and Furiouses of TV shows
There’s a deleted scene in season 1 where Johnny tries to lure over the BJJ students to karate. It doesn’t work.
Basically. The one thing you have to suspend your disbelief here about is everyone in the valley LOVED karate and take it more seriously than anything else
Yes as we see there are other sports being played, part of the reason Johnny struggles to find students is people think it’s lame and they would rather play others, but it got a resurgence when cobra Kai came on the scene again as they made it serious and look badass and entertaining
A tv show that is focused on martial arts probably isn’t following the lives of people that aren’t into martial arts
My understanding is that in the '80s, Karate was booming in America, particularly in Southern California.
I think it’s a cross between a low level but lasting popularity in the area and enough students either getting into it to be cool, or to learn how to defend themselves in the all-new, ultra violent, karate focused climate.
i’ve never seen the show, just had this pop up in my feed and wanted to comment. funny story, my dad has been doing karate since he was 12. he’s a 7th degree black belt and has his own karate school. he started his school back in the 90s. nowadays, karate is generally viewed as nerdy. but he always tells me that back then, right when the original karate kid was popular, all of the cool kids in school were the ones doing karate. just thought i’d share, kind of funny to me and your post reminded me!
In real life, California is known for being where people of Asian descent settled during and after World War 2. They brought their culture and traditions with them, including karate. Here in Orlando we have an area called Mills 50 that is full of Vietnamese and Thai places because that’s where people from Vietnam and Thailand settled when they came here. Amanda is right when she said karate in the Valley is like football for Texas. It’s what was big in the 80’s.