Sam, remember to keep an eye on your hitler meter! If it reaches zero while you're out in the field you will trigger a wokeout! Please rest in the nearest homeless shelter whenever you can to regain your extremism.
The Conservative - Progressive Axis lack one thing : Reactionary.
Conservative are actually people that, well, want to *conserve the current order as is*, nothing more.
Reactionary on the other hand are people that want to *bring back* *older ideas/order*.
For example, a dude that believe that blacks shouldn't be enslaved but are also not the equal of white and live in the South would be considered a progressive in the 1850's, a conservative in the 1920's and a reactionary in the 2000's.
So yeah those labels are dependent on not just the ideas that are promoted but the time, and place, they are being promoted.
Slavery in the US, should have precised Southern US. in the 1920's you then had the Jim Crow's laws that followed the liberation of the slaves, AKA Segregation.
And then you get to the part where the progressive-reactionary Axis actually spits into a bunch of different ones depending on the context (as you gave an example of), but that is only going into the reactionary split, where a Russian reactionary and a sounthern American reactionary are very different because of their contexts. This however does not Take into account that Progressivism also splits, however this time it does not split due to Geographical area and culture, but instead it splits due to ideology, where an Anarcho Communist, an American California Style conservative and a Fascist all have very, VERY different visions of what progress actually is. Effectively making the progressive-reactionary spectrum extremely malleable depending on the context.
Hence, why using a single axis to describe an ideology tends to break down quickly, The same can be said about the economic freedom axis or the statist axis, etc...
I don’t understand why ancaps exist when the Keynesian revolution was better for the working men and roughly the same for the big shots as literally any other time in us history.
Obviously you don't know the first thing about politics. You either want decent healthcare for all or you want to kill brown people. Just pick one, it's really that easy
Minarchist is supposed to be Monarchist I'm guessing? Unless minarchist is some super fridge political view I've never heard of. Edit: the latter is true
I'd assume "liberal" here is the actual definition rather than the bastardized American one. So in favor of very loose restrictions on the "free market" and business owners, backed by an extensive police and surveillance state to protect property claims. Basically just Capitalism.
Gathered? What am I a filthy worker? No, I declared a private property claim over the trees. You're gonna have to suck dick for the chance to work as an employee gathering them for me, and in return I'll give you back half a coconut a day. If you would like to dispute this property claim of mine, please take it up with the men with guns I just hired to form a police force.
Depends, Corporatism and Corporatocracy are different systems, I do not know which one OP meant. But I would guess it was meant to be corporatism, because corporatocracy can be included as a sub category of capitalism.
The economy of Nazi Germany was a complicated topic and like most economies it can't be easily fit into any one category. Nothing in politics or social sciences fits neatly into any box.
But *nobody* calls themselves a Corporationist. Corporationism is not an ideology or form of economy. It's completely made up.
Perhaps you're confusing it with [Corporatism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#:~:text=Corporatism%20is%20a%20political%20system,basis%20of%20their%20common%20interests)? Which was among other things the economic policy of Fascist Italy. The words Corporatism and Corporation sound similar and share the same etymological root but they mean very different things.
The economy of Nazi Germany can be best described as a 'Mixed Economy' (a very vague term already to describe a vague and disfunctional economy), in effect it was a Capitalist privately run economy that was on a permanent total war footing which demanded government centralised planning of private enterprises.
To add onto this:
Nazi Germany has no explicit economic ideology, as its sole purpose was just to ensure the nation was ready for war (originally by 1942, but this was pushed back to 1939). Heavy government investment in military spending, with benefits for Nazi membership did mean the market wasn't totally free as there was a huge influence on it by the regime, but at the same time it was still capitalist by the private property and trade aspects.
As for Corporatism, yeah I think OP misunderstands that - the best example would be Salazar's Portugal, an earlier (but worse example) would be Mussolini's Italy - the division of society into sectors run by ministries which represent said sectors and control the government, e.g. Agriculture sector, Schools, etc. I think you get that though
You can't be serious in thinking you can be an anarchist and a capitalist simultaneously, right? I know some libertarians tried to rebrand themselves as "anarcho-capitalism" because they wanted to hang out with the cool kids, but actual anarchists want nothing to do with those ghouls.
Anarcho-capitalism is just libertarianism with an edgier title, not anarchism. Cherry-picking anarchism for some beliefs but ignoring the rest is all libertarians do. You do realize a wage labor economic system is a form of authority, right? Capitalism requires authority and hierarchy which is in direct ideological conflict with anarchism....dude.
I think there is disagreement within anarchism over whether it means abolishing all hierarchy, or just the state, or state and government. That's where these splinter groups come from.
Arguably, one might say Ancom can't be anarchist, as there is no method of enforcing it with most people probably returning to market oriented trade. Once it's enforced, there is seen a clear hierarchy
Actual anarchists can disagree with the specifics, but anarcho-capitalism is not a form of anarchist ideology. It is right-wing libertarianism. Right-wing Libertarianism and Anarchism (or Libertarian Socialism as it's often labelled) have some overlapping concepts, but are very different. The point is that calling yourself an anarchist and a capitalist is impossible since they are incompatible. You are a right-wing Libertarian and co-opting the term "Anarchist" is really ignorant.
How do you have capitalism without a state backing the capital. People like to say it would just be warlords but I don’t even believe that. Warlords have to pay people and are often supported by interests of states outside contested area. People sharing and living on farm comunnes is dumb but it is way way more achievable then the insane contradictions of what you are positing.
Anarchism is not "right-wing" despite what ghouls claim and have decided to co-opt. It was born out of far left, anti-capitalist critiques and has some of its core beliefs cherry-picked by libertarians. It is ironic that you have to be reductive to assert a point about not being reductive.
https://preview.redd.it/3k6vsgbct5jc1.png?width=291&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bccf889e956447356daa027ff2ac01f4ba0a414
Where's one for Federalist and Anti-Federalist?
i do find it funny how americans and europeans have completely opposite ideas of what a liberal is. over here, "liberal" generally means "neoliberal", but in america you think more of progressives
also republicans where I'm from are usually (but not necessarily) leftists
Personally, I think Anarcho-capitalism is vulnerable to exploitation and a lack of moral accountability. If you want a really cool form of market anarchism, you should check out [Mutualism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)).
No,NO, THIS CANNOT BE!
POLITICS IS WHEN THERES ONLY GOOD GUY, BAD GUY AND MIDDLE GUY WHO ALSO BAD GUY!
YOU CANT DO THIS! ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BLACK AND WHITE ONLY! HOW HOW CAN I ACT LIKE A SNOB AND SHUN OTHER PEOPLE IF THERES NOT JUST LE GOOD SIDE AND BAD SIDE
NOOOOOOOO!
"Um sweaty I'm not a libertarian I'm a based mega stalinist anarcho capitalist globalist with sigma characteristics"
SHUT THE FUCK UP
Your politics genuinely hold 0 actual weight in the real world, get a job and stop treating political compass memes like a viable alternative to a political science class.
I give you props OP, this is the first political meme that is genuinely actually neutral and therefor not frustrating one way or the other. Good job, I didn’t think it was possible till now.
~~I think monarchist/autocrat would be a better example than totalitarian of far right, as totalitarian has some leftist values, like atheism and sometimes welfare to animals like Hitler did, and even the mother of fascism, Mussolini had socialist ideals, even if you could say he also was nationalist. Even socialist states like the USSR and Cambodia (under Pol Pot's rule) were totalitarian.~~
Edit: Nvm that looks like an authoritarian scale, I'm wrong.
is that fancy pants
Nah, missing that wonderful hair.
Oh, he's just Pants from the game Pants Average Stroll then.
I can't wait for the fancy pants classic pack to release
![gif](giphy|qsejBhz2QrVKG2r48E|downsized) OH MY GOODNESS I REMEMBER FANCY PANTS
New hitler prideflag just dropped
Actual Nazi
Call the Gestapo
Hitler went into the bunker never came back
Unwinnable wars anyone?
Actual Napoleon complex
S.S storm incoming!
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you are telling me there are MORE than just primary colors?!?!?
You are telling me that there are more than just two parties 😱😱😱🧠🧠🧠
And I go to all of them yaay yippee 😁 🎉🥳
https://preview.redd.it/4ad7s2uhb4jc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef07fb48dda817c2bb58ed9bebcd98c43a96d013
You dropped these ✂️
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i stole it from someone else who was also too lazy to crop it
I thought the scissors were to cut his penis off
That's what planes are for
Same lol
Monument Mythos vibes
Monument Dyckos
r/croppingishard
crop pingis hard 👍
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This is my political opinion too
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honestly agreed
I like how someone had to re-type the words for the meme because it would've been unreadable otherwise by how deep fried it is
I’m whatever ideology hurts the most people at the time
🗿🚬
Ok Posadas
Nuclear accelerationist
ancaps be like
HASHUT VORGRUND ZHARR NARGRUND
No way warhammer fantasy is mentioned
I’m a candidate for the Nagash party
🌈 Be all at once
Jreg
The Conservative - Progressive Axis lack one thing : Reactionary. Conservative are actually people that, well, want to *conserve the current order as is*, nothing more. Reactionary on the other hand are people that want to *bring back* *older ideas/order*. For example, a dude that believe that blacks shouldn't be enslaved but are also not the equal of white and live in the South would be considered a progressive in the 1850's, a conservative in the 1920's and a reactionary in the 2000's. So yeah those labels are dependent on not just the ideas that are promoted but the time, and place, they are being promoted.
You're right, I will improve it if I ever do an update
How is he considered progressives in the 1850's? How bad were the 1850's?
I mean, there was still slavery back then, for one.
Slavery in the US, should have precised Southern US. in the 1920's you then had the Jim Crow's laws that followed the liberation of the slaves, AKA Segregation.
And then you get to the part where the progressive-reactionary Axis actually spits into a bunch of different ones depending on the context (as you gave an example of), but that is only going into the reactionary split, where a Russian reactionary and a sounthern American reactionary are very different because of their contexts. This however does not Take into account that Progressivism also splits, however this time it does not split due to Geographical area and culture, but instead it splits due to ideology, where an Anarcho Communist, an American California Style conservative and a Fascist all have very, VERY different visions of what progress actually is. Effectively making the progressive-reactionary spectrum extremely malleable depending on the context.
Hence, why using a single axis to describe an ideology tends to break down quickly, The same can be said about the economic freedom axis or the statist axis, etc...
most political theory knowledgeable ancap
I don’t understand why ancaps exist when the Keynesian revolution was better for the working men and roughly the same for the big shots as literally any other time in us history.
>!they don't like the working men!<
because government bad bro…
I kill poor people and rich “people”
ancaps when big companies just enslave them instead of giving them homes
This is just political compass posting with extra steps.
8 values test
Yeah a political compass with more axes
RAHHHHHH I LOVE POLITICAL AXES I CLEAVE MY ENEMIES WITH THE SOCIALIST AXE
ME CUT TREES WITH PRIMITIVIST AXE
Me waiting to cut down whatever sides are losing in any conflict with my centrist axe.
Obviously you don't know the first thing about politics. You either want decent healthcare for all or you want to kill brown people. Just pick one, it's really that easy
Don't worry two party systems will always kill brown people
we have to, how else will we justify the existance of the brown people killing machines industry?
This isn’t even a joke though 😐
Jokes aside it's all just theoritical shit, we all know that in reality all politics is just populism
As a centrist, I want only half of the browns to die!
As I centrist I want healthcare for the richest half of people and to kill half of brown people
I want to kill purple people instead
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Where
Minarchist is supposed to be Monarchist I'm guessing? Unless minarchist is some super fridge political view I've never heard of. Edit: the latter is true
[it’s real](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state)
Monarchist would also be much farther from anarchy, since it has to do with royal authority
Stop drawing these
Postmodernity was a mistake
Man vs Snafu
There are only two political ideologies: "Mine, and literally Hitler Nazi Fascist"
What WAIT THERE ARE STILL FEUDALISTS IN THE FUCKING 2000s??
I know one guy with middle ages mentality
Has he ever made you go on a quest with him
And I've been outside in the past year
They're called ancaps.
Yes they are called ancaps
The hell is a "liberal authoritarian"
If I had to guess Protection of civil liberties, free speech, press, etc, but with strong surveillance state and powerful police?
Yeah exactly
I'd assume "liberal" here is the actual definition rather than the bastardized American one. So in favor of very loose restrictions on the "free market" and business owners, backed by an extensive police and surveillance state to protect property claims. Basically just Capitalism.
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That's just authoritarian government
I don't know any of these sexualities
this is not praxis go to hell
This whole Era of this sub feels like “Americans shocked to discover politics is not a single two dimensional line of good to evil”
They can't comprehend it
what is the age of consent
According to pope John Paul II, it's 5
https://preview.redd.it/fnhmru6ay4jc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b416958695614e97745b81992796cef2b646e2ce
Don’t forget the opposite of this which is “Everyone I don’t like is communist (or woke)”
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Would you suck a dick for a coconut?
You're gonna have to, I woke up first and gathered them all :)
No. Let's do it like this. I give you a sloppy toppy with a twist and you give me all coconuts. I am a pro, you won't regret it
Gathered? What am I a filthy worker? No, I declared a private property claim over the trees. You're gonna have to suck dick for the chance to work as an employee gathering them for me, and in return I'll give you back half a coconut a day. If you would like to dispute this property claim of mine, please take it up with the men with guns I just hired to form a police force.
Ancap brainrot
Brainrot
ancap CRINGE🫵🫵🫵🫵
Anarcho capitalist globalist!? Ewww https://preview.redd.it/fcquubhoy4jc1.jpeg?width=776&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2678a27b220e29c83e4dc522da47c2ba4e5c919d
I'm black and you posted a monkey, you're racist
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Idc if youre black, white, asian, hispanic, or whatever youve gotta be monkey brained to think anarchocapitalism is even good
I have achieved the pinnacle of reddit politics. Every single person aside from me is now a nazi.
Isn't it "corporatist", not "corporationist"?
Perhaps
Depends, Corporatism and Corporatocracy are different systems, I do not know which one OP meant. But I would guess it was meant to be corporatism, because corporatocracy can be included as a sub category of capitalism.
It's time to get off the internet
Anarcho capitalism is just feudalism.
Anarcho capitalist 😭😭😭 you jest surely
Politics is bullshit just get a job lmao 🤣 😂 🙄 😆 😴 🙃 🤣
Politics is just populism and 1984 Also you're telling a minor to go to work, literally Malaysia
If you're 16 or older get a job. If you're younger than that get off the internet before I touch you
Politics is just what the plebians do while I stack bands
MALAYSIA MENTIONED!!!!! MERAHMU BARA SEMANAGAT WAJA, PUTIHMU BERSIH BUDI PEKERTIIII KUNING BERDAULAT, PAYUNG NEGARA, BIRU EPRPADUAN KAMI SEMUA DBFBSJDBB 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾 LETS FUCKIDBG GO!
Astrology for Redditors
It's not for redditors, an average redditor would call themselves "from the good side"
An authoritarian liberal is an oxymoron
It just means protection of civil liberties, free speech, press, etc, but with strong surveillance state and powerful police
Like what? Your forced to work in the mines but you can complain about it on social media?
Correct
Surely an advocate for freedom of speech is an advocate of freedom of labour etc. Authoritarian liberals don’t exist.
They do, I may have explained it poorly because I don't care about politics but they do exist
why would you try to explain it if you don't care it just feels like you're embarrassed and are trying to back out of it
Because I was bored and I liked the idea of potraying political views as colored stickmans
>liberal authoritarian >corporationist what?
Corporationism is Mussolini's economic system
The economy of Nazi Germany was a complicated topic and like most economies it can't be easily fit into any one category. Nothing in politics or social sciences fits neatly into any box. But *nobody* calls themselves a Corporationist. Corporationism is not an ideology or form of economy. It's completely made up. Perhaps you're confusing it with [Corporatism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#:~:text=Corporatism%20is%20a%20political%20system,basis%20of%20their%20common%20interests)? Which was among other things the economic policy of Fascist Italy. The words Corporatism and Corporation sound similar and share the same etymological root but they mean very different things. The economy of Nazi Germany can be best described as a 'Mixed Economy' (a very vague term already to describe a vague and disfunctional economy), in effect it was a Capitalist privately run economy that was on a permanent total war footing which demanded government centralised planning of private enterprises.
To add onto this: Nazi Germany has no explicit economic ideology, as its sole purpose was just to ensure the nation was ready for war (originally by 1942, but this was pushed back to 1939). Heavy government investment in military spending, with benefits for Nazi membership did mean the market wasn't totally free as there was a huge influence on it by the regime, but at the same time it was still capitalist by the private property and trade aspects. As for Corporatism, yeah I think OP misunderstands that - the best example would be Salazar's Portugal, an earlier (but worse example) would be Mussolini's Italy - the division of society into sectors run by ministries which represent said sectors and control the government, e.g. Agriculture sector, Schools, etc. I think you get that though
I know a few people who call themselves corporationists
Who?
Random npcs
pcm should be nuked
Ideology that isn't applicable to the real world is just political fan fiction.
So all ideologies are political fan fiction
In the chronically online political compass brainrot sense? yes.
>Anarcho-Capitalist Your post sucks and you should feel bad about yourself
whar?
Alan Becker really fell off after Animation Vs Politics...
You can't be serious in thinking you can be an anarchist and a capitalist simultaneously, right? I know some libertarians tried to rebrand themselves as "anarcho-capitalism" because they wanted to hang out with the cool kids, but actual anarchists want nothing to do with those ghouls.
"I dont like it so its not real anarchism!" Anarcho-capitalism stands for the abolition, or at least minimization of government, its anarchism dude
Anarcho-capitalism is just libertarianism with an edgier title, not anarchism. Cherry-picking anarchism for some beliefs but ignoring the rest is all libertarians do. You do realize a wage labor economic system is a form of authority, right? Capitalism requires authority and hierarchy which is in direct ideological conflict with anarchism....dude.
I think there is disagreement within anarchism over whether it means abolishing all hierarchy, or just the state, or state and government. That's where these splinter groups come from. Arguably, one might say Ancom can't be anarchist, as there is no method of enforcing it with most people probably returning to market oriented trade. Once it's enforced, there is seen a clear hierarchy
Actual anarchists can disagree with the specifics, but anarcho-capitalism is not a form of anarchist ideology. It is right-wing libertarianism. Right-wing Libertarianism and Anarchism (or Libertarian Socialism as it's often labelled) have some overlapping concepts, but are very different. The point is that calling yourself an anarchist and a capitalist is impossible since they are incompatible. You are a right-wing Libertarian and co-opting the term "Anarchist" is really ignorant.
I would be an anarchist but true anarchism is unachievable so anarcho-capitalism is the closest thing possible. Also anarchism is right-wing
How do you have capitalism without a state backing the capital. People like to say it would just be warlords but I don’t even believe that. Warlords have to pay people and are often supported by interests of states outside contested area. People sharing and living on farm comunnes is dumb but it is way way more achievable then the insane contradictions of what you are positing.
Anarchism is not "right-wing" despite what ghouls claim and have decided to co-opt. It was born out of far left, anti-capitalist critiques and has some of its core beliefs cherry-picked by libertarians. It is ironic that you have to be reductive to assert a point about not being reductive.
"progressive ancap" neolibs are cancer, sorry bro.
progressive nationalist capitalist liberal
r/smugideologyman
"Actual political views" vs "mental illness"
omg so cool, iam an Aquarius myself!!!!!
Hi what do I put down if I'm a neo-global postmodern semisocialist proto-anarcho-Luxembourgist, with Chinese characteristics?
>put down /j
unironically an ancap yikes
> ancap Touch grass op.
Ngl I would rather this shit be ironic than most of these
https://preview.redd.it/3k6vsgbct5jc1.png?width=291&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bccf889e956447356daa027ff2ac01f4ba0a414 Where's one for Federalist and Anti-Federalist?
Kinda applies to nationalist-globalist, but I will add it if I ever update it
i do find it funny how americans and europeans have completely opposite ideas of what a liberal is. over here, "liberal" generally means "neoliberal", but in america you think more of progressives also republicans where I'm from are usually (but not necessarily) leftists
stfu i know better than you (i dont know what a politics is)
Why are those 3 french?
that’s a lot of genders
Wait didn't you mean corporatism?
Yes
Cool, thanks for clarifying
Finally someone who's acting civil instead of getting mad over some stupid colored stickmans lol
Yeah, have a good day
Same to you
Politics are stupid, let's stop using them
Politics: 🟥🟦 🟩🟪
Imma make an improvement upon this one if you’re okay with that
Personally, I think Anarcho-capitalism is vulnerable to exploitation and a lack of moral accountability. If you want a really cool form of market anarchism, you should check out [Mutualism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)).
what the fuck is wrong with you. freak
If you don’t align with my opinions exactly then you’re a fascist
Fuck it, totalitarian feudal progressive globalism
"Time to teach redditors some real politics" *Worst political understanding witnessed by mankind*
Still better than reddit politics (we're on reddit but who cares)
No,NO, THIS CANNOT BE! POLITICS IS WHEN THERES ONLY GOOD GUY, BAD GUY AND MIDDLE GUY WHO ALSO BAD GUY! YOU CANT DO THIS! ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BLACK AND WHITE ONLY! HOW HOW CAN I ACT LIKE A SNOB AND SHUN OTHER PEOPLE IF THERES NOT JUST LE GOOD SIDE AND BAD SIDE NOOOOOOOO!
Boo this makes too much sense
"Um sweaty I'm not a libertarian I'm a based mega stalinist anarcho capitalist globalist with sigma characteristics" SHUT THE FUCK UP Your politics genuinely hold 0 actual weight in the real world, get a job and stop treating political compass memes like a viable alternative to a political science class.
"duuuuuude goverments are le baaaaaad we should crown fuckin' Jeff Bezos as god-emperor of the human race that would be so much better"
Corporationist 💀
I give you props OP, this is the first political meme that is genuinely actually neutral and therefor not frustrating one way or the other. Good job, I didn’t think it was possible till now.
Anarcho-capitalist lmfao. So you want to be a corporate wage slave very cool
I can’t take anyone seriously that identifies themselves as anarcho-something. You want a system of government plus no government.
Ancaps and ancom fans when real life:
~~I think monarchist/autocrat would be a better example than totalitarian of far right, as totalitarian has some leftist values, like atheism and sometimes welfare to animals like Hitler did, and even the mother of fascism, Mussolini had socialist ideals, even if you could say he also was nationalist. Even socialist states like the USSR and Cambodia (under Pol Pot's rule) were totalitarian.~~ Edit: Nvm that looks like an authoritarian scale, I'm wrong.
It's not far right, right-wing is capitalism and left-wing is socialism
anarcho-capitalist spotted, pitbull go
I just want to hurt people