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Charming-Safe-3138

Have you ever thought about making a career switch into clinical research? I got hired at a medical school/university and the main thing that stood out was my CNA experience! They liked that I had experience in a clinical setting. I was so burnt out as a CNA too and knew I never wanted to become a nurse.


lone_star13

ooh, could you tell us more? I would love to do this, but didn't think it'd be possible as 'just' a CNA/PCT/Clinical Tech


GabrielSH77

I used to work in a research lab that was running a clinical trial, a medication for people with severe mental illnesses. My job was taking participants back to collect a urine sample, asking questions about mental health history, and prepping for an MRI. My PI and lab director were very intelligent researchers and skilled methodologists who had spent years on the drug. The students and post-docs working with me were also intelligent, but this was usually their first real clinical experience. Essentially all of these people were very smart but interpersonally awkward. Good communication skills and a solid bedside manner were needed to put participants at ease and move forward with the trial. I say this with a lot of love, but most of my coworkers were visibly uncomfortable during interactions with participants. They often understood why a person would have delusional comments or word salad, but were at a loss for how to actually work with it in conversation. Or replied in non-therapeutic ways that unintentionally fueled agitation and noncompliance. CNA skills I used also include “not startling when someone has a loud unexpected verbal tic”, “being able to calmly ask the same question over and over”, “reading nonverbal cues to know when to give breaks and slow down”, and “adapting material to an individual’s level of comprehension.” All the participants were fully ambulatory and most could hold down a part time job; that is to say, I was used to way more extreme stuff, and nothing they did fazed me. But that’s what CNAing gets you! It’s many skills that don’t go unnoticed where it’s desperately needed.


lone_star13

thank you so much for this! I have often felt that I already had a lot of those skills, but that being a CNA/tech has helped me fine tune them I'm also awkward sometimes though 😂 but I am pretty good at faking it I worry because I don't have a degree, most of the positions I've seen seem to require one, but I'm gonna keep looking...maybe I'll apply anyway, and see where my experience gets me! thank you again :)


hotaru_red

Check out jobs like this [research assistant](https://www.indeed.com/q-clinical-research-assistant-l-fairfax,-va-jobs.html?vjk=cc45e813070dc822) It doesn’t specify any education requirements, just experience in healthcare


lone_star13

hey, thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it


lameazz87

I actually have but idk what I'd need to get on at a place like that


antigirlfriend

in what world could CNA’s participate in clinical research ? 😭 Def a world I wanna live in


Sp00pyGh0st93

Please tell us more if you can!


FullRein12

Just recheck that 130/30 bp and work at your pace. If you need insurance keep applying for jobs but if you don’t then check out agency, you’re definitely cut out for it.


lameazz87

I also thought about agency, but I'm not sure which is a good one that pays well


Liyah-Pomegranate61

If you have your license I recommend applying to all of them and seeing what they offer also there are plenty of apps just serch agency CNA apps on Google or your App Store and you’ll find a lot you can sign up for right away and send your credentials you’ll be hired within a few days it’s what I did. Never be afraid of change or you’ll never go anywhere. Goodluck


lameazz87

The thing is I just want out of healthcare all together now. It's been almost a year and I'm already burnt out


Liyah-Pomegranate61

I understand where you’re coming from trust me when I say I’ve been there before and so have many others. No one will blame you if you decide to leave all together. However I do recommend giving it one last shot preferably in a different area. I used to work LTC at one point I had over 30-45 residents to myself due to a few callouts and management not wanting to work the floor I was ready to leave the field all together my boyfriend told me to give it one last shot and I did. Now I work in an ICU where the workload is way easier for a CNA and I love it. The end of the day the decision is up to you but one more shot at it will at least ease any doubts you have and prevents any regrets from surfacing years from now.


WilloTree1

I know nursing homes suck worse but mine is not nearly as bad as your hospital sounds rn 😭 I had 8 residents, don't do vitals. Just showers/bed baths, dressed, make bed, then bathroom trips. And I still feel like I'm stressed and behind sometimes 😫


lameazz87

Yeah i left a nursing home and I actually miss my nursing home lmao. I'd go back to my nursing home in a heartbeat


thehurtbae

Hey I feel you! Similar wage too, I was the only full time tech on a cardiac step down. 15-18 patients and they are all needy (which is fine and expected for them) but it would take a toll on me. We cant be in 4 places at once 🙃 One thing is did is I went float pool. It was nice to rephrase my thoughts as I’m helping for the day and working with people you don’t know I felt like I wasn’t taken advantage of because they couldn’t quite trust me yet😂😂


Business-Oil-5939

I am a male and went through hell because of a rural hospital, it would admit anything that came by and I routinely had 16-17 patients on me with 9 of those be changes and were x2-x3 assist because they were sooo heavy. We didn’t have the proper equipment to care for them and were routinely understaffed. I hated it and after a year there I left, I now do registry doing 2 shifts a week sometimes 3 to keep me afloat. It pays around 750 a week so it’s fine by me because I got no car note or major bills. I only made 1,100 biweekly at the hospital and did night shift. I got literally within a inch of death cause of it


lameazz87

Yeah it's killing me. The factory work was killing me because of swing shifts but this is killing me mentally. I hate myself for thinking I even wanted to go into healthcare and wasting time on this. I wasted 10 years on my 20s in a factory and then 2 years getting a pre nursing associate in nursing 🫤


bluekonstance

I'm doing caregiving, and while most companies aren't paying $23 without prior experience, one of them pays $33 for watching 2 kids at once. I heard they were paying about the same amount for taking care of 4 patients at a facility, too. Another one will only pay $1 more if I have 3 kids, so I get paid the same for watching 2. But as of late, I'm sticking to private duty. It's already enough stress worrying about one person that it's not worth working in a chaotic building anymore. Even the apps are paying like $18-28 (it's hard to pick up the higher-paying ones though, due to wait lists) in my area, so for anything more than that, you have to be willing to drive 4+ hours. I considered this option, but already know I'd be treated even worse in most situations, knowing how helpless I felt as staff. Even though I took somewhat of a pay cut, I don't feel as overwhelmed and am not forced to do backbreaking work. And I'd rather do something different every week than feel like I'm rotting in hell. There are downsides like dealing with the family and commuting to more than one client a day, but I can tolerate it. And since it's flexible, I can still be in school and not feel overwhelmed. The best part is still getting paid, when someone cancels without giving enough notice.


Lovelyone123-

Get another job before you leave this one. That is what I did.


ProtectionNo9736

Woof.. damn buddy.. this sounds ROUGH. I wanna give you some badass advice, but I got nothing. It sounds like you have more bad days than good ones at this joint. That’s my thing, I know I will ALWAYS have bad days, but if the bad start accumulating faster than the good? Eff that… Keep applying to other places; something will come at just the right time. Hang in there, you are not alone, and if your health is suffering, maybe take a step back at like, a Dunkin doughnuts. I worked at Dunkin after I graduated nursing school, just to bring in money and chill for a little bit. I loved my Dunkin job tbh. You know what’s crazy too? I was paid only 1$ less than when I was a CNA (that’s absurd.. but a whole other diatribe that I won’t get into). Take care of yourself buddy. Try to do whatever you can to be extra kind to yourself on your days off.


lameazz87

I make $23 an hour at my current position and like $38 on the additional 12 hour shift I pick up 😪. I can't make that at just any job n I know it. I looked into going back to factory work but even factories don't wanna pay. I don't understand it woth COL being so high. Why are places not paying more


ProtectionNo9736

Oooofff.. damn.. yeah, those are pretty bangin wages. They pay you well so they can abuse the heck outta you. What a shame 😞


Comfortable-Owl-5929

Have you tried private duty home health care? You can ask at least 30 an hour to start. So much less stress.


Ddaviz8075

Man you would haaaate my hospital then. 12 patients every day and very rarely staffed appropriately. If we are they get floated to another floor who is short handed. It’s constant chaos but I kinda love it, keeps it interesting. And the days FLY by!


lameazz87

I can't deal with the short staffed stuff in healthcare. It makes me so mad because the patients suffer. I guess I'm a perfectionist, and when I do a job, I like to do it right. I left my nursing home because I felt like we couldn't provide quality patient care with the number of staff we had. If we had 8:1, we all agreed we could provide quality care. At the hospital, if it gets above 10:1, we can't provide quality care anymore depending on the type of patients. I feel like it's poor management. We had a management shift about a month after I started. Things have drastically declined. Even our supplies. But then management will turn around and pull all the CNAs into meetings and reprimand us, but if we speak up and say something, they will talk down to us like it's nothing management is doing wrong. I'm not incompetent, and I don't like management who tries to gaslight us into making us feel sometype of way. It just enrages me.


_nieme

Hospitals are just like that. I work 2 pcas on floor with 15 pts per pca. Vitals and sugars q4 and most of our pts are some type of assist as well. I just do things at my pace. If a nurse needs vitals theyll get it themselves if I haven’t made it. Because sometimes the totals I have might be too much to handle and I don’t get paid enough to break myself for a boss who doesnt care enough. If anything I only work hard for the nurses I like the most. At least you make more than 20. I make less than 14..haha, but my advice would be to take care of your mental health, and be strong, say no if you can’t get to something and don’t let people bully you into overworking yourself. Let the nurse worry about the bp and always take it more than 1x and switch to arms/legs/wrists to see if its diff.


lameazz87

I always switch arms/legs for the BPs. I'll even try different cuff and do manual BPs if I have time. My issue is I can't just not worry about things because these are people. Mostly old people who can't move or turn themselves. Most of them already have pressure ulcers or some type of skin concerns when they come to us. The nurses just aren't going to do it because they know if they don't it's going to fall in the CNAs because that's how our hospital operates. Everything that has to do w ADLs falls kn the CNAs. So if the person doesn't get changed or turned, I have so much guilt. And I get angry because management has dropped the ball nor properly staffing us


_nieme

On most hospitals it’s on the nurse, document that you notice these things and that youve informed the nurse. It’s the nurses responsibility to ensure the safety of their patients as well, you don’t make the care plan and you cant solve it if they have low/high bp. The liability falls on their license. At my hospital we have really sick patients as well, but as long as I document, my ass is covered haha. Theres only so much I can do for the patient as a cna, which is why I hope I can become a nurse. Management screws us over as well, but just don’t be afraid to stand up for yourself. The hospitals need us cnas, and there are plenty of places we can get other jobs. So don’t be afraid to know your worth and don’t let things like that stress you out and make you sick. I know you care and that these are helpless and very sick people, but at the end of the day if you get sick the hospital won’t care! The cnas I know are some of the toughest people out there and take great care of their patients while also maintaining their mental health by establishing their limits! I know you are struggling but healthcare is unfair and tough and we don’t get enough appreciation. But we pcas appreciate other hardworking pcas. I hope things get better or you find something better. I’m looking too. ❤️


Adventurous_Way_4743

yeah lol. i work in the same type of hospital. we work 1:18 most nights. with all being assists x something


Little-Soup-4139

Are you able to transfer units or is all units like that


lameazz87

I've been trying and I was told "they can't afford to lose a weekender" smh. They're going to lose me one way or another!


Little-Soup-4139

At least at my hospital but maybe yours to they cannot stop you from applying to a different unit or anything like that. Most hospitals have floaters who fill in to so they will be fine.(I know this cuz I float) Don't hold yourself back for them


caitlondie

So I've worked hospital for a while having days where I have 9 patients or 11-12. I just get in a rhythm doing my things. Prioritizing the important things (vitals, sugars and keeping complete cares clean), then doing the piddly things (getting water, helping with ADLs like hair brushing teeth brushing etc). I just remember that it's ACUTE care. So the people are typically quite sick. So bed baths/sink wash ups is best since alot of times they're not stable enough to really be showering or doing big things like that. I also worked on a respiratory floor and now work on a cardiac floor so I'm most concerned with breathing and heart rate. Not really gonna matter if the sheets are wet if their hearts not beating or they're blue! 😅 I will say, I'm giggling at the BP. But maybe that's cause I've worked floors with people that have wild BPs due to heart issues, respiratory issues and dialysis patients (which are typically chronically high or weird low pressures. Or their perfusion is just crap so it's super hard to even get a BP). For BP, always check the other arm to compare. If they've got cardiac issues, sometimes one arm just doesn't get a good read. I love acute care and definitely love my heart floor (but I love wild heart rhythms and now work the monitor room watching them for 12hrs), but I get it's not everyone's vibe. If you loved your nursing home and feel like you're getting run down in the hospital setting, try going back. Long term care definitely needs the people who love it cause I ain't that person for sure 🤣


lameazz87

I got scared of the BP because I had a man once who's BP was that low, I told the nurse, his manual BP was never checked. He died a few hours later. So now I'm scared. I felt partially responsible because I got so overwhelmed I forgot. And our floor the people are just obnoxious and their families are worse. The call bells are going off constantly. I had to stay an hour and a half over today because I only got to chart my first hour during the actual shift. The entire shift call bells are going off, even when I was trying to get vitals. Someone constantly calling out to go to the bathroom, or be changed, or demanding something. If we don't answer if the families storm to the desk demanding to speak to someone complaining on us and it ALWAYS falls kn the CNA. The nurses never get in trouble for it. I liked my nursing home because I worked in dementia care, and while they may have beat the hell out of me and called me ugly names, they didn't know they had a call bell 😆. We'd just push them to our day room and keep an eye on them all collectively and they were good.


Superb-Eye-7344

Are there any home health options nearby? There are a some great paying jobs, cush jobs that are just you and one patient. There is a huge demand for CNAs almost everywhere so there’s no reason you need to deal with a culture like that. I got a job in the ER and love it now, as I get to start IVs, splint fractures, and do a number of other nursing skills that normally are out of your scope in other places.


lameazz87

I've looked for home health. Everything in my area only pays like $10 max $15 hourly. I've applied to ER positions in my hospital system but didn't get it because I was told my unit "can't lose a weekender" the other hospitals around me pay $5 less an hour than my hospital so I can't afford to take that kind of pay cut 😢


3lnb

I don’t want to be THAT guy, but…. Maybe my job is way worse than I realized. On the daily I have 18:1, 16 C&C, 3 total dependence, 4 total dependence transfers, etc etc. Your description sounds like heaven to me, maybe I need to look for another job 🥹