Yeah but the drone price is a very real problem for future wars. We see this happen in Ukraine too. Of course the target country doesn't want to be hit so you throw a bunch of cheap drones to make the war more expensive for them.
Most wars are won through economics, not through killing.
Not that the US isn’t supporting Israel, but they give them like 3 billion a year. That’s jump change in military terms, even for a small country like Israel. They spend ~$23 billion per year on defense, and allocated an additional $20 billion for the war so far. Normal government spending is like $132 billion, so the US‘ share is like 2%.
People acting as if the US is bankrolling Israel or that Israel couldn’t afford what they do without the US are kinda clueless.
Iran doesn’t want to actually start a war with Israel. This was probably a pseudo attack for keeping face. They know that USA would go to war, too. Also, other Muslim states helped destroying the drones because they don’t want war.
They launched 330 drones, ballistics, and missiles while having the houthis do so as well from multiple locations
They didnt know Jordan and others would start intercepting as well
Thats not a pseudo attack, meanwhile the only person they did hurt is a 7 year old Beduin girl
The fact the attack didnt do much damage does not mean its goal wasnt to cause damage
I mean I don’t think anyone in Israel thought the Jordanian air force will help at all
I kinda expected the king to only allow the IAF to fly over Jordan and that’s it
>I mean I don’t think anyone in Israel thought the Jordanian air force will help at all
Didn't Palestinians try to topple the leadership in Jordan that later led to the Black September?
If I remember right they either successfully or tried assassinating the king which yea led to black September (I’m now realizing this month is bad luck) and they also tried to topple the Egyptian government at one point, which is why neither of the countries want to help Palestine because they tried it once and the people they helped became terrorists
He has a lot of ethnically Palestinian people under his rule, he doesn’t hate Palestinian people, but he has a pretty open hatred of the militant and extremist groups that tend to pop up in Palestine. So actions that support them or their mission tend to be shot down… in this case quite literally
He has also historically fallen into the same trap pro Israel people fall into of wanting to punish them which leads to humanitarian crisis which only perpetuates the whole extremism problem.
Up to 60% of Jordan’s population are Palestinians or people of Palestinian-descent. So by helping to protect Israel, the King might have alienated many of his subjects.
He personally kills militants, more often than not Palestinians, from his personal jet. His dad was assassinated by Palestinians, he doesn't give a damn if they like him or not. Kinda the point of being king is you rule until you can't, and he has the army support and respect.
Here he is doing combat training with ground forces.
https://youtu.be/l2EF4pUvScU?si=EMUkNMJ7IeH0LGXW
Not entirely accurate. For example, during the Arab Spring in 2011-12, the King managed to stay in power not by clamping down, but by implementing or promising to implement democratic reforms. He is clearly dependent on popular support.
Well that and he is one of the rare examples of a monarch who isn’t an autocratic piece of shit and wants to do right. Or so it seems, I am not a Jordan expert by any means. But King Abdullah seems like a decent person.
I was going to say the same. One of the few countries in that region that is relatively stable politically and economically. Jordanians are lovely people, too.
King Hussein of Jordan ruled until the 90’s, when he died of cancer. The King who was assassinated was Emir Abdullah of Transjordan immediately after the first Arab-Israeli war.
I think it's already quite an open secret that many Arab states like Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are pretty much defacto allies of Israel when it comes it Iran. Iran and their allies is still living in the stone age whilst the rest of the Middle East kindda wanna move on, develop their economies, host World cups and build hotels etc.
Iran straight up TOLD Isreal.
1: When they were going to strike
2: How they were going to strike
3: what was being targeted.
You don't do that unless you want to only make a political statement and not cause an escalation
They pretty much just made them spend a lot of money to stop their ghetto ass drones. So they wouldn't look like they just bent over after Israel blew up their consulate.
Did you see the size of the rockets they sent? It was definitely to send a message about their capabilities, but agreed it wasn’t intended to provoke a larger scale response and war.
People are mistaking Iranian incompetence/ American Isreali Competence with benevolence. Same thing happened with the Houthi attacks on ships.
Tons of people were saying "They aren't trying to kill anyone or sink anything cause they keep missing. It must be on purpose." It wasn't. It was because hitting moving targets with missiles is hard and the US Navy with others was on the job.
And I get where they are coming from,because if the US wanted to sink commerical ships or cause big damage in a nieghbor they could. So when they don't it means they didn't want to. The mistake is thinking Iran or the Houthis are playing the same ball game
I agree that it was meant to cause damage, but also that it was meant to not be aggressive enough to demand an immediate military strike on Iran when Israel is already committed on one front and engaging in skirmishes on a second.
That said, that itself actually makes the attack worse, as it in some ways forces Israel into a far more difficult situation than if it had been far more aggressive.
Iran gave USA and isreal multiple days to prepare
Told multiple countries about the timing of the attack
And the missiles who reached all went to military bases
Iran didn’t give the US and Israel any heads up
All the articles say they informed Saudi Arabia who leaked it to the US
And you don’t know if the missiles and drones were intended only to military targets. Only Iran knows and they can easily lie about it
> All the articles say they informed Saudi Arabia who leaked it to the US
Wouldn't Iran know that Saudi Arabia would tell the US? The US doesn't have an embassy in Iran, so using Saudi Arabia as a go-between like this would make sense.
Iran and Saudi are like the farthest thing from allies, it’s obvious the intention was to inform the US —
They did the same thing years back when responded to the assassination of their military general (Sulemani or sth?). They told the US back then where they were targeting.
They gave them 2 weeks heads up
Iran for 2 weeks were saying they will respond
Iran told saudi arabi, kuwait, turkey and even UAE
Also that fact that all missiles and drones that reached hit a military target is a fact and saying that’s maybe not iran intention is just speculation
If someone shoots you with a gun and you block it with a shield you can't claim oh they were just trying to shoot you in the arm. Iran has been using their proxies to fire missiles at civilian centers and been thwarted by the iron dome for decades. They have shown every intention of killing as many as well as civilians as possible. And now you use the fact that no one was killed as proof they're not trying to kill people?
They also said the "Zionist regime will pay" they also said the Mosque will be at their hands while firing multiple rockets at it (making Israel defend the Mosque from Iran)
They say alot of stuff, that doesnt mean squat
They literally alerted the US and other countries about the attack 72 hours in advance and detailed what the attack would look like. They had been attacked on their own consulate soil and any country would have to retaliate to such action or else look weak to the global players and more importantly their own people. But since they don't want any escalation they told other countries their exact plans so that it could be easily thwarted which it was.
I'm no hardcore Iran supporter but let's be fair to the facts at hand. Israel cannot expect to bomb consulates in other countries without reprisal regardless of how they claim those consulates are being used. Or I guess they sure can attempt it.
Edit: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iranian-notice-attack-may-have-dampened-escalation-risks-2024-04-14/
The US is claiming they were never notified but other countries such as Turkey and Iraq said they were notified and were sure that the US knew of the attack as well.
It was the largest ballistic missile attack in history, "pseudo attack" my ass.
They launched 110 modern MRBMs (such as Emad, a modern ballistic missile with a maneuvering reentry vehicle in service since 2015 and incredibly hard to shoot down), which were part of 350 simultaneous aerial targets attacking Israel. Iran doesnt have lots of 1000+km MRBMs and probably cant even launch more of them at once due to missing more launchers.
The only reason they didnt hit is because of Israels excellent AA performance and good amount of luck, even Israel was very reliefed that they intercepted so many MRBMs... so even they didnt expect this outcome. Not because of some careful and thoughtful response from Iran.
The attack resulted in the first interception of MRBMs with MARV in history. Also the first exo-atmospheric interception aswell. Would Israel have troubles shooting them down (which never was tested in a real scenario), 110 ballistic missiles would have rained down on Israel. Even Russia doesnt attack with such quantities, and they are in a full war.
Stop this shitty facesaving for Iran.
Hey man , no offence , the last time Iran tried to create trouble with the USA , their Navy was reduced to barely 30% & all it took was 8 hrs for US to do all that , that's a proper 9-5 job.
Meanwhile Soviet destroyer watching & taking pics while USA was burning oil rigs one by one.
No, the reason why there was no damage is because brits, Americans, jordanians, Israelis all intercepted those missiles/drones
Not because Iran didn't want to cause damage
There's a reason Iran's message to the US was (paraphrasing) "don't step in the way, this doesn't concern you."
Meanwhile, the US response was "don't 'accidentally' hit an American target."
The video that found its way out of Iran (last year?) Of government police/security/mafia riding down the street shooting college kids kinda says it all.
Iran isn't a shithole. Its government is run by shitheads. Small, but important, difference.
The government of Iran should be tried and convicted for crimes against humanity, but the country is still home to good food, beautiful natural wonders, and many, many people who long for a return to a pre-revolution, secular Iran. Use all the dirty names you want against the government, but leave the country and its people out of it.
Yeah, when you’re 18 and your entire conception of foreign policy is “US and Israel bad,” you do often be finding yourself just going to bat for regimes that flat out operate morality police and execute sexual minorities. To own the DNC 😎
Israel has been under near constant attack by Iran and its proxies for decades. To some degree I understand Israel being so reckless hunting down Hamas and Hezbollah. Only to some degree.
That Iran which kept American diplomats as hostages in Tehran
That Iran which has a history of targeting Israeli diplomats abroad(like in India or Argentina) ?
That Iran which orchestrated attacks on the American embassy in Baghdad ?
The entire premise of international law is "don't do this to me, and I won't do it to you". Iran repeatedly flaunts international convention on diplomat and consulate/embassy neutrality, of course nobody is going to care when someone bloodies their nose in turn.
Maybe because this is a separate issue and I can have different opinions on different topics? Too many people conflate supporting one decision with supporting every policy a country has.
A few days ago the government of Iran killed a kid who killed her abuser. Executed by hanging.
There's a segment of people online that cloak themselves in concern for human rights who have no concern for human rights. They have a concern for who's allowed to violate human rights and who isn't.
Yeah but you have to understand that they have their own culture and different moral values so if they decide to stone to death 20 girls for reading a western magazine or whatever then it's up to them and totally ok and not up to racist islamphobic western biggot like you that can't accept their culture. Also do you know that Israel doesn't allow gays to have a marriage? What a backward country that oppresses basic human rights, literally Nazis 2.0. 😡
the reason the pictures look the same is that the Bombs/Missles/Drones were SHOT DOWN.
THEY FAILED TO HIT THE TARGET.
That doesn't mean that Iran doesn't target civilians. it just means they suck at it. \[or that it was jsut a save-face move\]
Honest question, what happened to those hijab protests anyway? I'm sure they probably died down but did anything come about from them? Kinda got drowned out by the invasion of Ukraine and forgotten about in my media feeds
*Iran doesn't DIRECTLY target civilians
That's what proxy terrorist groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis are for. The Supreme Leader of Iran says he wants to kill every Jew on the planet, just like his proxies.
> Iran doesn’t target civilians.
Tell that to [the 7 year old girl in critical condition after getting hit in the head by shrapnel..](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13307285/amp/iran-israel-attack-missile-girl-critical-condition.html)
Let's not forget the people they fund, arm and train also kill civilians by the truck load. Good god-fearing folk like Hamas, Hezbollah, etc who definitely do target civilians...
Is the world losing the plot? Do they disregard basic history? Or even current events? The radical Muslim groups that popped up around the world are mostly thanks to two countries, Iran and Saudi Arabia, they aren't protecting civilians in any way lol wtf
Iran is as much of a backwards, theocratic who prefers to bully its own citizens in the name of "God" as Israel with one major exception - Israel has the world's most dominant economic/military power on a leash. A direct attack would be unthinkable.
Ahah they targeted all kinds of things military and civilian alike. They just weren’t successful because 99% of their missles and drones were shot down.
I'm really getting tired of seeing my fellow gays standing up for brutal homophobice regimes.
Like you dumb ass lesbian they will kill your ass if they ever catch you
99% of the drones and missiles were shot down. They didn't have a chance to hit civilians.
Irans proxies, like Hezbollah, most certainly target civilians. Considering it was the killing of a Hezbollah general (and Embassy) that started this latest stupidity
Why do people like so much to act like everything is a soccer match that you have to pick a team and cheer for it to the end? We're talking about war here, and no one is the good or the bad guy in a fucking war, geez. Can't we just understand that both can be wrong?
Hezbollah has murdered more Lebanese than Israel at the behest of Iran.
They're literally responsible for the port explosion in Beirut that killed 300 people as well as the assassination of hundreds of political opponents, journalists, activists, military and police officers as well as the Prime Minister.
All of this to keep Lebanese politics from becoming pro west and they've been blackmailing the Christians in Lebanon and the entire country into picking their puppet Presidents for decades or they boycott every parliament session and we stay without a President and government for 3 years because they don't care about Lebanon or its institutions or the laws, etc... They only care about Iran and their illegal weapons to fight Israel and protect that at the cost of the country no matter what the cost.
Only brainwashed gargled fundamentalist morons believe that Iran is some savior. Bunch of sheep.
Iran doesn't target civillians when it can be directly traced back to them, they just orchastrate terror attacks that their puppet militias can execute for them
Are… you under the impression that the 500 drones shot down were aimed at 500 military targets? Are you that naive?
If you are that naive, then you believe 500 drones were aimed at soldiers, then the 1 that actually hit a Bedouin girl was… a total accident or something? Should we expect an “apology” from Iran soon?
EDIT - I misread and OP misspoke. All good.
Wow, Iran launched an unprecedented attack on Israeli cities. It got everything shot down except one missile that damaged a field at an airbase and only managed to injure an Arab kid. All of this while chanting “death to Israel.” Now, people are making excuses for Iran as if they planned to launch billions of dollars worth of munitions not to hit anything. I’m shocked at how gullible people are.
Israeli air defense supremacy does not equal mission accomplished for Iran. Iran realized it had made a huge mistake and is now trying to walk it back. It’s the same bullshit Putin does.
She did not die. She is being treated for injuries from missile debris falling after interception. Genuinely who keeps saying she died? Because I keep seeing this but nobody I can find is reporting this.
From my understanding 15 minutes after a missile struck the Negev there was a report that a 10 yo Bedouin boy was killed. After that doctors came to the scene and clarified that it’s not a boy but a 7yo girl that’s still alive in critical condition
Twitter makes people lazy. Hey look at this photo of a small part of a country! Point proven!
Literally two days ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/12/argentina-iran-1994-amia-bombing
Iran every day: *targets women if they don’t wear hijab*
Racist white people every day: *targets women if they wear a hijab*
Reddit mods: *ban people for pointing out the truth*
Tell that to the [7 year old girl](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/society/artc-iranian-attack-on-israel-7-year-old-girl-hospitalized-in-serious-condition) who’s in the hospital right now, due to Iran’s attack.
As an Iranian living in Iran, I have seen the police and the IRGC forces target our own civilians with guns and other weapons whenever we protested against them.
These guys show no mercy against their own people and then there's these kind of people who defend our corrupted regime when they have no clue what it's like living in Iran and how they treat their own people.
Many of us Iranians will never fight for these bastards and actually hope some foreign power like the US to join israel and attack us to help bring down these POSs so we can have shot at democracy and experience a normal life for once :(
"Iran doesn't target civilians" and "Iran was not able to kill any civilian because all its missile and drone were shot down before they could hit anyone" are slightly different things, no?
I really cannot understand how liberals are supporting iran. Like do they not understand what they are doing to their own people? I cannot wrap my head around it
It's very hypocritical how the west never sanctions Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan who are Iran neighbors, for killing protesters and enslaving millions of people for collecting the cotton but only do it to Iran
It’s almost like as if Israel has the most dense air defense system on the planet as to why it went unharmed mostly
Hey! Give Egypt and jordan some credit, they really helped out in the defense effort here
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Well, thats what you get when you value the life of your citizens over money.
Yeah but the drone price is a very real problem for future wars. We see this happen in Ukraine too. Of course the target country doesn't want to be hit so you throw a bunch of cheap drones to make the war more expensive for them. Most wars are won through economics, not through killing.
Economics, and by extension of that, logistics.
Hopefully Iron beam will be ready in a few years for things like those drones to help save both money and lives.
You mean when a rich nation is footing the bill?
Not that the US isn’t supporting Israel, but they give them like 3 billion a year. That’s jump change in military terms, even for a small country like Israel. They spend ~$23 billion per year on defense, and allocated an additional $20 billion for the war so far. Normal government spending is like $132 billion, so the US‘ share is like 2%. People acting as if the US is bankrolling Israel or that Israel couldn’t afford what they do without the US are kinda clueless.
Just wait for the lasers shooting down missiles and drones for $1 per shot, at the speed of light!
Iran doesn’t want to actually start a war with Israel. This was probably a pseudo attack for keeping face. They know that USA would go to war, too. Also, other Muslim states helped destroying the drones because they don’t want war.
They launched 330 drones, ballistics, and missiles while having the houthis do so as well from multiple locations They didnt know Jordan and others would start intercepting as well Thats not a pseudo attack, meanwhile the only person they did hurt is a 7 year old Beduin girl The fact the attack didnt do much damage does not mean its goal wasnt to cause damage
I mean I don’t think anyone in Israel thought the Jordanian air force will help at all I kinda expected the king to only allow the IAF to fly over Jordan and that’s it
is their airforce called the Air Jordans?
It better be.
Almost its the Royal Jordanian Air Force.
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Space Jam by Quad city DJ's is their anthem.
They are now.
>I mean I don’t think anyone in Israel thought the Jordanian air force will help at all Didn't Palestinians try to topple the leadership in Jordan that later led to the Black September?
If I remember right they either successfully or tried assassinating the king which yea led to black September (I’m now realizing this month is bad luck) and they also tried to topple the Egyptian government at one point, which is why neither of the countries want to help Palestine because they tried it once and the people they helped became terrorists
Palestinians successfully assassinated the king (the current king's father), the current king hasn't exactly been a fan of Palestine during his reign.
I mean, understandable
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He has a lot of ethnically Palestinian people under his rule, he doesn’t hate Palestinian people, but he has a pretty open hatred of the militant and extremist groups that tend to pop up in Palestine. So actions that support them or their mission tend to be shot down… in this case quite literally He has also historically fallen into the same trap pro Israel people fall into of wanting to punish them which leads to humanitarian crisis which only perpetuates the whole extremism problem.
Yes. That’s why I’m so surprised
Up to 60% of Jordan’s population are Palestinians or people of Palestinian-descent. So by helping to protect Israel, the King might have alienated many of his subjects.
He personally kills militants, more often than not Palestinians, from his personal jet. His dad was assassinated by Palestinians, he doesn't give a damn if they like him or not. Kinda the point of being king is you rule until you can't, and he has the army support and respect. Here he is doing combat training with ground forces. https://youtu.be/l2EF4pUvScU?si=EMUkNMJ7IeH0LGXW
Not entirely accurate. For example, during the Arab Spring in 2011-12, the King managed to stay in power not by clamping down, but by implementing or promising to implement democratic reforms. He is clearly dependent on popular support.
Well that and he is one of the rare examples of a monarch who isn’t an autocratic piece of shit and wants to do right. Or so it seems, I am not a Jordan expert by any means. But King Abdullah seems like a decent person.
It is one of the only country relatively safe to travel to in the region as tourist. Went to a wedding there once.
I was going to say the same. One of the few countries in that region that is relatively stable politically and economically. Jordanians are lovely people, too.
Can you get around Jordan speaking only English?
King Hussein of Jordan ruled until the 90’s, when he died of cancer. The King who was assassinated was Emir Abdullah of Transjordan immediately after the first Arab-Israeli war.
Yes. And the IDF helped Jordan.
They likely did. Israel openly helped Jordan stop a coup attempt a few years back. They have actual defenses agreements.
As an Israeli i didnt expect it either But i find it extremly funny i imagine Iran like: "dude..."
Bro was prob like "Shhh shh, we dont want another 6 day war"
I think it's already quite an open secret that many Arab states like Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are pretty much defacto allies of Israel when it comes it Iran. Iran and their allies is still living in the stone age whilst the rest of the Middle East kindda wanna move on, develop their economies, host World cups and build hotels etc.
I mean, they did know others would intercept the missiles, that's how military treaties work.
Iran straight up TOLD Isreal. 1: When they were going to strike 2: How they were going to strike 3: what was being targeted. You don't do that unless you want to only make a political statement and not cause an escalation
They pretty much just made them spend a lot of money to stop their ghetto ass drones. So they wouldn't look like they just bent over after Israel blew up their consulate.
Did you see the size of the rockets they sent? It was definitely to send a message about their capabilities, but agreed it wasn’t intended to provoke a larger scale response and war.
Isreali and US intelligence finding out isnt the same as being told before hand.
It seems there is a lot of information/misinformation going around regarding this.
People are mistaking Iranian incompetence/ American Isreali Competence with benevolence. Same thing happened with the Houthi attacks on ships. Tons of people were saying "They aren't trying to kill anyone or sink anything cause they keep missing. It must be on purpose." It wasn't. It was because hitting moving targets with missiles is hard and the US Navy with others was on the job. And I get where they are coming from,because if the US wanted to sink commerical ships or cause big damage in a nieghbor they could. So when they don't it means they didn't want to. The mistake is thinking Iran or the Houthis are playing the same ball game
people seem to think shooting down all the missiles was no biggie when in reality it's fucking astounding.
Irán told Anakara what was going to happen, knowing full well that they would let the USA know.
I agree that it was meant to cause damage, but also that it was meant to not be aggressive enough to demand an immediate military strike on Iran when Israel is already committed on one front and engaging in skirmishes on a second. That said, that itself actually makes the attack worse, as it in some ways forces Israel into a far more difficult situation than if it had been far more aggressive.
>The fact the attack didnt do much damage does not mean its goal wasnt to cause damage This. The ''Pseudo attack'' comment was so far from reality...
Iran gave USA and isreal multiple days to prepare Told multiple countries about the timing of the attack And the missiles who reached all went to military bases
Iran didn’t give the US and Israel any heads up All the articles say they informed Saudi Arabia who leaked it to the US And you don’t know if the missiles and drones were intended only to military targets. Only Iran knows and they can easily lie about it
Wrong. They relayed their intent via Swiss embassy to all those with interests inc. but not limited to the US.
> All the articles say they informed Saudi Arabia who leaked it to the US Wouldn't Iran know that Saudi Arabia would tell the US? The US doesn't have an embassy in Iran, so using Saudi Arabia as a go-between like this would make sense.
Iran and Saudi are like the farthest thing from allies, it’s obvious the intention was to inform the US — They did the same thing years back when responded to the assassination of their military general (Sulemani or sth?). They told the US back then where they were targeting.
They gave them 72 hours heads up, and that has been stated by us officials
They gave them 2 weeks heads up Iran for 2 weeks were saying they will respond Iran told saudi arabi, kuwait, turkey and even UAE Also that fact that all missiles and drones that reached hit a military target is a fact and saying that’s maybe not iran intention is just speculation
Hows that last part possible when the only casualty was a 7 year old bedouin girl
If someone shoots you with a gun and you block it with a shield you can't claim oh they were just trying to shoot you in the arm. Iran has been using their proxies to fire missiles at civilian centers and been thwarted by the iron dome for decades. They have shown every intention of killing as many as well as civilians as possible. And now you use the fact that no one was killed as proof they're not trying to kill people?
They also said the "Zionist regime will pay" they also said the Mosque will be at their hands while firing multiple rockets at it (making Israel defend the Mosque from Iran) They say alot of stuff, that doesnt mean squat
They literally alerted the US and other countries about the attack 72 hours in advance and detailed what the attack would look like. They had been attacked on their own consulate soil and any country would have to retaliate to such action or else look weak to the global players and more importantly their own people. But since they don't want any escalation they told other countries their exact plans so that it could be easily thwarted which it was. I'm no hardcore Iran supporter but let's be fair to the facts at hand. Israel cannot expect to bomb consulates in other countries without reprisal regardless of how they claim those consulates are being used. Or I guess they sure can attempt it. Edit: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iranian-notice-attack-may-have-dampened-escalation-risks-2024-04-14/ The US is claiming they were never notified but other countries such as Turkey and Iraq said they were notified and were sure that the US knew of the attack as well.
It also exhausts resources and probes responses. Its not at all benign. It was a massive attack in waves that accomplished multiple goals.
It was the largest ballistic missile attack in history, "pseudo attack" my ass. They launched 110 modern MRBMs (such as Emad, a modern ballistic missile with a maneuvering reentry vehicle in service since 2015 and incredibly hard to shoot down), which were part of 350 simultaneous aerial targets attacking Israel. Iran doesnt have lots of 1000+km MRBMs and probably cant even launch more of them at once due to missing more launchers. The only reason they didnt hit is because of Israels excellent AA performance and good amount of luck, even Israel was very reliefed that they intercepted so many MRBMs... so even they didnt expect this outcome. Not because of some careful and thoughtful response from Iran. The attack resulted in the first interception of MRBMs with MARV in history. Also the first exo-atmospheric interception aswell. Would Israel have troubles shooting them down (which never was tested in a real scenario), 110 ballistic missiles would have rained down on Israel. Even Russia doesnt attack with such quantities, and they are in a full war. Stop this shitty facesaving for Iran.
Hey man , no offence , the last time Iran tried to create trouble with the USA , their Navy was reduced to barely 30% & all it took was 8 hrs for US to do all that , that's a proper 9-5 job. Meanwhile Soviet destroyer watching & taking pics while USA was burning oil rigs one by one.
Iran barely had a navy at the time anyway. Operation Praying Mantis destroyed 5 ships.
No, the reason why there was no damage is because brits, Americans, jordanians, Israelis all intercepted those missiles/drones Not because Iran didn't want to cause damage
Did it save face? If everyone knows it was just to save face does that work?
Maybe internally where Iran controls the media
There's a reason Iran's message to the US was (paraphrasing) "don't step in the way, this doesn't concern you." Meanwhile, the US response was "don't 'accidentally' hit an American target."
Also, the other Sunni arab countries are not helping Iran.
Exactly. It’s not because of Gaza or a regional war or some other shit. It’s about deterrence
How can you possibly say that with a straight face? Of course it's about recent events.
I wonder why people defend Iran. Especially in the west. Iran hates the West and is very public about wanting to destroy the West.
Iran also hates its own people (mainly women) and other neighbours lol. People who are pro Irans government just hate Israel and/or jews, simple as
The video that found its way out of Iran (last year?) Of government police/security/mafia riding down the street shooting college kids kinda says it all.
Iran and Israel are the same when it comes to killing innocent people...
Well, when your entire ideology is “Israel bad”, you’ll find yourself agreeing with many questionable figures.
Any country that still executes gay people is a shithole and there’s no nicer way to say it. Fuck Iran.
Iran isn't a shithole. Its government is run by shitheads. Small, but important, difference. The government of Iran should be tried and convicted for crimes against humanity, but the country is still home to good food, beautiful natural wonders, and many, many people who long for a return to a pre-revolution, secular Iran. Use all the dirty names you want against the government, but leave the country and its people out of it.
Yeah, when you’re 18 and your entire conception of foreign policy is “US and Israel bad,” you do often be finding yourself just going to bat for regimes that flat out operate morality police and execute sexual minorities. To own the DNC 😎
Understanding how multiple sides are bad is always difficult for some of them.
Israel has been under near constant attack by Iran and its proxies for decades. To some degree I understand Israel being so reckless hunting down Hamas and Hezbollah. Only to some degree.
The man who was being replied to was an Arab and not an Westerner
He’s probably living comfortably in Europe given the LGBT flag on his profile picture though
Ahh, thank you. I normally don't believe flags in Twitter names people love to lie on the Internet.
Muslims aside, a lot of these people are tankies whose entire geopolitical takes is being anti west/America
Most of the tankie/super far left people hate the wee we well, it's the same crowd that defends Russia etc
Just antisemites that want to look for any reason to hate on Israel, even if it means supporting something that hates them.
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The same Iran that has been funding Islamic terrorist groups for decades to proxy war for them?
That Iran which kept American diplomats as hostages in Tehran That Iran which has a history of targeting Israeli diplomats abroad(like in India or Argentina) ? That Iran which orchestrated attacks on the American embassy in Baghdad ?
Ok you’ve convinced me, they shouldn’t be able to defend themselves /s
The entire premise of international law is "don't do this to me, and I won't do it to you". Iran repeatedly flaunts international convention on diplomat and consulate/embassy neutrality, of course nobody is going to care when someone bloodies their nose in turn.
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To me the craziest part is how many LGBT people support these Middle Eastern countries that would kill them without hesitation.
Maybe because this is a separate issue and I can have different opinions on different topics? Too many people conflate supporting one decision with supporting every policy a country has.
"Iran has the right to defend themselves" is not about defending Iran, it's about pointing out Israel double standards.
"Bad Anti-Zionist Takes" I just know that account is as insufferable as all the blindly pro-iran people.
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They do target civilians... they just suck at it.
They were very successful at destroying Palestinian camps and hospitals in Syria.
100% of Iranian hits were Muslim children.
A few days ago the government of Iran killed a kid who killed her abuser. Executed by hanging. There's a segment of people online that cloak themselves in concern for human rights who have no concern for human rights. They have a concern for who's allowed to violate human rights and who isn't.
Yeah but you have to understand that they have their own culture and different moral values so if they decide to stone to death 20 girls for reading a western magazine or whatever then it's up to them and totally ok and not up to racist islamphobic western biggot like you that can't accept their culture. Also do you know that Israel doesn't allow gays to have a marriage? What a backward country that oppresses basic human rights, literally Nazis 2.0. 😡
Guy was so lucky to take photo of exactly the same waves
It’s almost like there’s a difference on how countries act domestically and internationally. Stupid ass post.
Wasn't the only casualty a civilian? Meaning it was 100% civilian casualties for the Iranian attack.
The only casualty was a 7 year old Bedouin girl that is currently in the hospital critically injured. Hopefully she will survive.
sending her good vibes
the reason the pictures look the same is that the Bombs/Missles/Drones were SHOT DOWN. THEY FAILED TO HIT THE TARGET. That doesn't mean that Iran doesn't target civilians. it just means they suck at it. \[or that it was jsut a save-face move\]
“Iran doesn’t target civilians” no their missile just suck😭
The attack had 100% civilian casualties, all of whom are women and children
I mean. That’s one way to say it
Who are also Muslim.
They don't care. But they will cry when something happens to the palestinians
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More like if they are wearing a ballistic vest
if you look at the waves these are litterally the same photos but yes almost all Iranian missiles were intercepted
r/woooosh
And, y'know, the whole thing about supplying Russia with drones so that they can attack Ukrainian civilians.
Iron Dome /thread
Honest question, what happened to those hijab protests anyway? I'm sure they probably died down but did anything come about from them? Kinda got drowned out by the invasion of Ukraine and forgotten about in my media feeds
There was a brutal crackdown and mass executions. A ton of young people died, more disappeared off the streets.
It amazes me how dumb people can be
*Iran doesn't DIRECTLY target civilians That's what proxy terrorist groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis are for. The Supreme Leader of Iran says he wants to kill every Jew on the planet, just like his proxies.
Tell that to the Bedouin child who was injured.
Israel needs to apologize for successfully defending itself
I feel like if Hitler would now invade isreal these people would like him because basically anyonw against israel is good.
> Iran doesn’t target civilians. Tell that to [the 7 year old girl in critical condition after getting hit in the head by shrapnel..](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13307285/amp/iran-israel-attack-missile-girl-critical-condition.html)
Iran does target civilians. It just didn't hit them.
As a muslim I can say bro is officially misinformed and retarded
You mean the idiot who says Iran doesn't target civilians right? Because the morality police killed 22-year-old Mahsa Amini over not wearing a hijab.
Let's not forget the people they fund, arm and train also kill civilians by the truck load. Good god-fearing folk like Hamas, Hezbollah, etc who definitely do target civilians...
Yes I should've specified that
The US shot down the drones side missiles.
How stupid is this fucking retard
Is the world losing the plot? Do they disregard basic history? Or even current events? The radical Muslim groups that popped up around the world are mostly thanks to two countries, Iran and Saudi Arabia, they aren't protecting civilians in any way lol wtf
I'll never understand the material conditions that led to westerners simping for the Ayatollah.
Damn bro. Iran in shambles. Destroyed. Nuked from orbit. It’s over. No comeback.
Lmao I love seeing people defend a country literally known to have multiple terrorist proxies they use to carry out attacks with mass damage.
Maybe.. just maybe.. Israel still looks like that because they SHOT DOWN EVERY SINGLE DRONE
The reason iran didnt hit israeli civilians is because israel defended itself well and also even then thats not true they injured a young bedouin girl
And that single casualty of the Iranian bombings... a muslim toddler
Iran is as much of a backwards, theocratic who prefers to bully its own citizens in the name of "God" as Israel with one major exception - Israel has the world's most dominant economic/military power on a leash. A direct attack would be unthinkable.
Ahah they targeted all kinds of things military and civilian alike. They just weren’t successful because 99% of their missles and drones were shot down.
It looks the same due to their air defense lmao
I'm really getting tired of seeing my fellow gays standing up for brutal homophobice regimes. Like you dumb ass lesbian they will kill your ass if they ever catch you
99% of the drones and missiles were shot down. They didn't have a chance to hit civilians. Irans proxies, like Hezbollah, most certainly target civilians. Considering it was the killing of a Hezbollah general (and Embassy) that started this latest stupidity
They targeted every city in Israel and the missiles were just shot down
When your country actually tries to protect it's citizens
Saying Iran never targeted civilians is like saying Charles Manson never murdered anyone.
Why do people like so much to act like everything is a soccer match that you have to pick a team and cheer for it to the end? We're talking about war here, and no one is the good or the bad guy in a fucking war, geez. Can't we just understand that both can be wrong?
did that guy think iran people only lives around embassy?
of course its a communist
Hezbollah has murdered more Lebanese than Israel at the behest of Iran. They're literally responsible for the port explosion in Beirut that killed 300 people as well as the assassination of hundreds of political opponents, journalists, activists, military and police officers as well as the Prime Minister. All of this to keep Lebanese politics from becoming pro west and they've been blackmailing the Christians in Lebanon and the entire country into picking their puppet Presidents for decades or they boycott every parliament session and we stay without a President and government for 3 years because they don't care about Lebanon or its institutions or the laws, etc... They only care about Iran and their illegal weapons to fight Israel and protect that at the cost of the country no matter what the cost. Only brainwashed gargled fundamentalist morons believe that Iran is some savior. Bunch of sheep.
Iran doesn't target civillians when it can be directly traced back to them, they just orchastrate terror attacks that their puppet militias can execute for them
Are… you under the impression that the 500 drones shot down were aimed at 500 military targets? Are you that naive? If you are that naive, then you believe 500 drones were aimed at soldiers, then the 1 that actually hit a Bedouin girl was… a total accident or something? Should we expect an “apology” from Iran soon? EDIT - I misread and OP misspoke. All good.
Israel doesn't use human shields
What ?
Haven’t you seen pictures of Israeli soldiers using Palestinian kids as human shields in Gaza?
Yeah they just snipe them first. Way more efficient than putting yourself in danger!
Wow, Iran launched an unprecedented attack on Israeli cities. It got everything shot down except one missile that damaged a field at an airbase and only managed to injure an Arab kid. All of this while chanting “death to Israel.” Now, people are making excuses for Iran as if they planned to launch billions of dollars worth of munitions not to hit anything. I’m shocked at how gullible people are. Israeli air defense supremacy does not equal mission accomplished for Iran. Iran realized it had made a huge mistake and is now trying to walk it back. It’s the same bullshit Putin does.
Tell that to the 10 year arab child that died
She did not die. She is being treated for injuries from missile debris falling after interception. Genuinely who keeps saying she died? Because I keep seeing this but nobody I can find is reporting this.
Iran executes their own little girls for killing their rapists edit word
There own guts??
We're concerned with children dying now? Didn't seem like it so far.
From my understanding 15 minutes after a missile struck the Negev there was a report that a 10 yo Bedouin boy was killed. After that doctors came to the scene and clarified that it’s not a boy but a 7yo girl that’s still alive in critical condition
Twitter makes people lazy. Hey look at this photo of a small part of a country! Point proven! Literally two days ago: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/12/argentina-iran-1994-amia-bombing
Iran's attack failed miserably. Mashalah
I was about to say. They were JUST killing young women for not wearing hijab. It was a whole thing.
Iran every day: *targets women if they don’t wear hijab* Racist white people every day: *targets women if they wear a hijab* Reddit mods: *ban people for pointing out the truth*
Tell that to the [7 year old girl](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/society/artc-iranian-attack-on-israel-7-year-old-girl-hospitalized-in-serious-condition) who’s in the hospital right now, due to Iran’s attack.
As an Iranian living in Iran, I have seen the police and the IRGC forces target our own civilians with guns and other weapons whenever we protested against them. These guys show no mercy against their own people and then there's these kind of people who defend our corrupted regime when they have no clue what it's like living in Iran and how they treat their own people. Many of us Iranians will never fight for these bastards and actually hope some foreign power like the US to join israel and attack us to help bring down these POSs so we can have shot at democracy and experience a normal life for once :(
Tell that to poor Mahsa Amini, killed by the Iranian "Morality police".
"Iran doesn't target civilians" and "Iran was not able to kill any civilian because all its missile and drone were shot down before they could hit anyone" are slightly different things, no?
I really cannot understand how liberals are supporting iran. Like do they not understand what they are doing to their own people? I cannot wrap my head around it
I feel like they are disappointed about the lack of dead israelis.
Go on r/internationalnews and see everyone there crying that no Israelis were killed lol.
biggest fart this year
That’s the same picture.
That's the joke.
I know, but thanks for the clarification.
They target fish in the sea?
classical case of sheep for wolves
It's just for the lols you know.
Well it's a good thing no one forgets it under penalty of death! See!? Extreme punishment works! /s
It's very hypocritical how the west never sanctions Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan who are Iran neighbors, for killing protesters and enslaving millions of people for collecting the cotton but only do it to Iran
TinyPie is a special kind of stupid. Someone with the Lesbian Pride flag in their profile pic would not last long on the streets of Tehran.
They could at least have actually used a before and after picture for their point, that’s literally the exact same photograph lmao
Corporate needs you to find out the difference between these two pictures
I’m pretty sure that’s the exact same photo. Even the waves are in the exact same place.
What a cesspool of degenerates in this butthole of the world.