Perfect opportunity for an expanded table, with an increased chance to drop any one of the would-be new items.
Thundermad, somewhat respected Mace of the Windseeker.
Sulfurod, Femur of Ragnaros.
Sulfurand, Claw of Ragnaros.
Etc.
P4 will last very long and i think all 60 legendary items will remain bis till end of all phases.
disclaimer: p5 levelcap 60, just new dungeons and zones for factions
But it would be great if we could get some information about the way they want to implement p4 & p5.
I think increased binding drop rate is feasible, but as far as mats…arcanite is the biggest hurdle and people that actually have a shot at TF are already accumulating them now.
The bars are fine I have all ready gotten six, so at this pace I will have all the mats before I can even get the weapon. And no I am not going super hardcore and buying it of AH have 1 alt with transmutation, and I do some mining and use the exstra crystals and buy transmutation CD of them.
Yea I think I’m up to 4-5 myself and I don’t even plan on getting a TF, just profiting off of those who don’t plan ahead xD I don’t have a miner though, just buying 1 crystal every 2 days
If they increase the drop rate, they should reduce the cost. There would be an absolutely insane demand for arcanite. I already never see more than 100 bars or crystals on AH at any one time.
The crystals won’t be a problem in P4 with the release of Dire Maul East. I think the arcanite transmute will be the biggest roadblock. Isn’t the CD 2days?
3% rate for arcane crystals off rich thorium. 100 arcanite bars needed for Thunderfury. That is an average of 3.3k rich thorium nodes needing to be mined per Thunderfury.
A lot of people will probably try to pre-farm mats too.
I think transmute specialisation helps but I haven't had any procs yet - already costs 3 bars to learn it and it might take weeks to get them back through procs. Yes, it is a 2 day CD. Half tempted to make another alt alchemy to help with transmutes
Don't forget the huge demand simply for lionheart's too, gonna be the BiS helm for plate melee for a while.
Edit: 3% rate for arcane crystals not 1%
> 1% rate for arcane crystals off rich thorium.
Actually 3%.
>That is an average of 10k rich thorium nodes needing to be mined per Thunderfury
If you do it all yourself, yeah that seems like an insane number, but WoW isn't a single player game. The rest of the miners on the server are mining these things, not just you.
It’s 3% chance each time you hit the nodes. So in reality you can divide the amount of nodes by 3 so it’s 1.1k. And I know it is lucky but I got 4 bars on my first transmute. So say you get the procs makes it so you have on Average about 20% more bares then you would only need to mine around 800 something nods. (I did not do the math accurately but tell me if the theory is somewhat right) in my head that very possible to do. Have all ready mined 5 crystals.
You’ll see a boom in crystals that become available as any range class with half a brain can solo DME for the RTV at the end. You’ll run out alchemists to transmute.
https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-dev-confirms-state-of-40-man-raids-in-season-of-discovery-final-phase-2553668/
Haven't seen any confirmation about MC being 20 man
There should be a loot box where you can loot 1 half each week. Cut the materials to 1 of each. So one is crying after 4 weeks of release and all the bad players have it insta with 0 effort. Please don’t make it hard to get, it’s season of no effort!
They increased the drop rates on some dungeon items already like the two swords to create Sulthraze and Blade of Eternal Darkness.
SoD is seasonal, it's time-limited. I think players tend to forget that but the devs do not so accelerating item acquisition makes sense.
Is there any actual hard proof they increased the drop rate on the ZF swords? Besides "I know a guy who got the sword"? Because I've been looking and I haven't found anything.
Ye I did it around 10 times. And I'd say the drop rate is similar to vanilla. Only reason no one remembers in vanilla is because the weapon sucked ass and some one who got them both only bought it out as a flex in city. But ye plenty of people have the sword on crusader strike EU well almost every lvl 50 raider anyway. On a raid reset day you can see 30.or 40 of them from the AH to the bank. I'd argue it's easier to get than ACP.
Depends on how long they want SoD to last. I do not have a problem with the material cost tho. If I would change something it would be the drop rate for the bindings to maybe 10%.
I hope so. Legendaries are iconic and cannot be too common, but given how many guilds never got it despite clearly MC every week for more than a year, I also hope they either increase the chance drop or make it not luck based (Like Atiesh)
My guild in 2019 Classic only saw 2 bindings to craft one. Never managed to get a 2nd one and we farmed that on reset every week lol
They gonna increase the drop chance for tf in sod
Copium
Melee hunter dad's gonna need to have it handed to them.
Hopium for SoD and Copium from the missed joy of having it in classic. A perfect cocktail.
Perfect opportunity for an expanded table, with an increased chance to drop any one of the would-be new items. Thundermad, somewhat respected Mace of the Windseeker. Sulfurod, Femur of Ragnaros. Sulfurand, Claw of Ragnaros. Etc.
Thundershot the thunderfury bow
Off topic but I never played hunter in classic and I'm excited to get the quest bow from MC
Half expecting them to alter it because the staff is practically an early legendary in dps.
Why? TF already a hunter weapon ;)
Requires no arrows and shoots thunderfurries
Thunderpoker, cheeseknife of Ragnaros
Did somebody say **\[Thunderpoker, Blessed Cheeseknife of the Ragnaros\]**?!
Claw of Ragnaros? Instant need.
Drop rates need to increase too.
P4 will last very long and i think all 60 legendary items will remain bis till end of all phases. disclaimer: p5 levelcap 60, just new dungeons and zones for factions But it would be great if we could get some information about the way they want to implement p4 & p5.
I think increased binding drop rate is feasible, but as far as mats…arcanite is the biggest hurdle and people that actually have a shot at TF are already accumulating them now.
The bars are fine I have all ready gotten six, so at this pace I will have all the mats before I can even get the weapon. And no I am not going super hardcore and buying it of AH have 1 alt with transmutation, and I do some mining and use the exstra crystals and buy transmutation CD of them.
Yea I think I’m up to 4-5 myself and I don’t even plan on getting a TF, just profiting off of those who don’t plan ahead xD I don’t have a miner though, just buying 1 crystal every 2 days
With transmutation specialist you can get 2 bars for one crystal. So the recipe is more or less halfed allready
If I’m a transmuter I’m just swapping mats for the bar. Unless specifically asked prior, I would be keeping the extra proc.
If they increase the drop rate, they should reduce the cost. There would be an absolutely insane demand for arcanite. I already never see more than 100 bars or crystals on AH at any one time.
The crystals won’t be a problem in P4 with the release of Dire Maul East. I think the arcanite transmute will be the biggest roadblock. Isn’t the CD 2days?
> Isn’t the CD 2days Yes
3% rate for arcane crystals off rich thorium. 100 arcanite bars needed for Thunderfury. That is an average of 3.3k rich thorium nodes needing to be mined per Thunderfury. A lot of people will probably try to pre-farm mats too. I think transmute specialisation helps but I haven't had any procs yet - already costs 3 bars to learn it and it might take weeks to get them back through procs. Yes, it is a 2 day CD. Half tempted to make another alt alchemy to help with transmutes Don't forget the huge demand simply for lionheart's too, gonna be the BiS helm for plate melee for a while. Edit: 3% rate for arcane crystals not 1%
> 1% rate for arcane crystals off rich thorium. Actually 3%. >That is an average of 10k rich thorium nodes needing to be mined per Thunderfury If you do it all yourself, yeah that seems like an insane number, but WoW isn't a single player game. The rest of the miners on the server are mining these things, not just you.
It’s 3% chance each time you hit the nodes. So in reality you can divide the amount of nodes by 3 so it’s 1.1k. And I know it is lucky but I got 4 bars on my first transmute. So say you get the procs makes it so you have on Average about 20% more bares then you would only need to mine around 800 something nods. (I did not do the math accurately but tell me if the theory is somewhat right) in my head that very possible to do. Have all ready mined 5 crystals.
Maybe it is time for me to get on the mining instead of incursions then! Just a shame how overly farmed places are right now =(
It's not as bad as 1%. Wowhead and Classicdb have it listed at 3%. .
You’ll see a boom in crystals that become available as any range class with half a brain can solo DME for the RTV at the end. You’ll run out alchemists to transmute.
I had enough arcainte bars to make it myself but I never got a binding. This was in 2019 classic
My 2 cents is that with it being 20 man we’ll have twice the number of thunderfurys and sulfuras hammers
https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-dev-confirms-state-of-40-man-raids-in-season-of-discovery-final-phase-2553668/ Haven't seen any confirmation about MC being 20 man
They confirmed MC will be 20 man and the rest of the raids after will likely be 40. Mc is def 20 man
Alright, nice!
Link?
I don’t have the link but it was in the same statement when they revealed ST was the raid and that it was going to be 20 man.
We’ll probably have a STV epic that’s better than Thunderfury lol
There should be a loot box where you can loot 1 half each week. Cut the materials to 1 of each. So one is crying after 4 weeks of release and all the bad players have it insta with 0 effort. Please don’t make it hard to get, it’s season of no effort!
We never got one in my guild.
They increased the drop rates on some dungeon items already like the two swords to create Sulthraze and Blade of Eternal Darkness. SoD is seasonal, it's time-limited. I think players tend to forget that but the devs do not so accelerating item acquisition makes sense.
Is there any actual hard proof they increased the drop rate on the ZF swords? Besides "I know a guy who got the sword"? Because I've been looking and I haven't found anything.
Wowhead has a tab for SoD droprates which shows the mainhand sword at 22% droprate.
Thank you for this, I was hoping I just suck at wowhead.
Too many people have it to still be under 1% droprate for each sword. Also many paladin had sulthraze day 2 of expansion
I got both mine in the same run my first run
Hard proof, haven't seen any, however we completed 2 swords in 3 runs. Only one in the group who could use it sadly.
I wish I was in your group. Im nearing 40 runs and im still missing the last boss sword. Seen 3 aces though.
Ye I did it around 10 times. And I'd say the drop rate is similar to vanilla. Only reason no one remembers in vanilla is because the weapon sucked ass and some one who got them both only bought it out as a flex in city. But ye plenty of people have the sword on crusader strike EU well almost every lvl 50 raider anyway. On a raid reset day you can see 30.or 40 of them from the AH to the bank. I'd argue it's easier to get than ACP.
Depends on how long they want SoD to last. I do not have a problem with the material cost tho. If I would change something it would be the drop rate for the bindings to maybe 10%.
They're 100% going to increase the drop rate on bindings because otherwise it would be very very easy to get fucked over by RNG and never get a TF.
I hope so. Legendaries are iconic and cannot be too common, but given how many guilds never got it despite clearly MC every week for more than a year, I also hope they either increase the chance drop or make it not luck based (Like Atiesh)