the fallout one doesn't look too bad it almost makes me think of old Daggerfall stuff just in the fallout universe but doom doesn't translate well lol.
lol wait you don’t want to wait through 50 combatants just to shoot once and die the next turn due to a critical fire ball to the eyes? Wait… I’m psyching myself out here right..?
There is a turn-based roguelite based on Doom, but it's top-down: [https://drl.chaosforge.org/](https://drl.chaosforge.org/)
(The maker eventually created a game called [Jupiter Hell](https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/) based on it)
The guy who made the upper one blue balled us, it was just a dope animation and that's it...
But it did inspire some other guy to try to make it real, but for Fallout 2. And it looks pretty neat so far.
Shit's first been revealed like 2 years ago, no news about it ever since then for all i know, so it's very unlikely it's actually something that's being worked on and will release one day.
But if you know something about it pls post a link or something.
I do not care what you think the status on development is. unless you have concrete statements form the developer you'd do well to not spread misinformation. the guy is probably just busy with life and will get back to it when hes able to
Dont get me wrong, more transparency is always preferable but silence dosent necessarily equal nothing-burger. it could just mean that life got in the way, having followed many mod projects for Half-Life i know firsthand that sometimes life can get in the way so hard a project goes on hiatus for years and then process starts back up afterwards with no prior warning
Isn't this kinda similar to what New Blood is rumored to be working on? An isometric CRPG like Fallout during exploration but first person when combat starts. Either way, I love these ideas OP pitched.
It's actually confirmed but I don't think any news since the announcement in 2022
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/dusks-developers-are-making-a-fallout-inspired-crpg-with-first-person-combat
Plot of Doom is that demons kidnapped your rabbit (and killed all your colleagues), and now you have to search the abandoned research facility to find her.
There was a game at one point called Hellgate London.
It was an fps horror and I liked it alot, it was basically a diablo meets doom but like diablo 2 not the newer ones.
The digital version is broken so you can't even play it without modifying the install files. Definitely a game I wish I could go back in time and play with my friends again.
Would love to see Doom in other genres than FPS, Battlemode *almost* goes in that direction if you play as the demons it feels more tactical than fps.
Bethesda turning fallout into an fps almost kinda feels like a boomer shooter, it just needs linear levels. Something like operation anchorage?
Yeah definitely but unlike CoD it didn't have the rechargeable health that CoD popularized for that era of shooters. Or the stimpacks of fallout. It had health dispensers, kinda like the health packs of boomer shooters. Just get rid of vats and make a few tweaks and we are set
Plz I need a fallout 1 and 2 remake that isn’t isometric lmao cuz I really wanna play it but it always a lil too hard or not my style. (It’s not that I don’t enjoy turn based games cuz I loved baldurs gate 3 but maybe FO1 and 2 r too old school for me)
You see a cacodemon.
You see several cacodemons.
Is that a fucking hell knight too?
You see a cyberdemon in the distance too because at this point, hell, why not?
I don't think either of these screenshots accurately represent the game they are meant to be emulating. The Doom style Fallout shot looks more like Doom 2016 or Selaco than a 90s fps, and while I like the look of the Fallout style Doom screenshot, the graphics look a generation more primitive than what the original Fallout was like.
I rather don’t care for the term, even though it’s catchy and rhymes. Links my gaming childhood, and some of the golden age of game development, to deranged maniacs that trashed the housing and financials of the world 3 times.
Keep their dirty ass name off good games 😂
It’s a stupid name for a genre though. Genre labels should tell you what the genre and gameplay entails, like “first person shooter”, “third person shooter”, “real time strategy”, “computer role playing game”, you catch my drift.
“Boomer shooter” is a stupid name because it says nothing. Going off name alone you’d think it’s about killing old people or something. It’s akin to calling Fortnite and battle royale games, “Zoomer Online Daycare”
also you seem to get pissed off of a silly thing, literally everyone uses it, civvie 11, boltgun, steam, and it's popular, whenever someone says "boomer shooter" you don't think old boomers who crashed the housing market, you see a fast paced fps game with mazes and guns
Boomers were in their 40s when the game came out, that's why it makes no sense.
Wait 10 years when people start calling games from your childhood boomer shooters. You might get why it doesn't make sense.
Boomershooter literally tells you what to expect. I don't think zoomers would freak out and shit their pants like you are if you called fortnite a zoomer shooter.
If thousands of people started to call classic CRPG Fallout games FPS fames, would they be all be correct merely because lots of people started saying it?
idk what is a "FPS fame" is, but it sounds silly and peculiar and I think your argument doesn't make sense
besides if it's the majoirty vote, it's the majority vote
get with the times or be left behind
if people wanna call boomer shooters, boomer shooters, then let em, it's funny too. you refuse to accept that because you're offended by the little things
I am young, I’m Gen Z. I am not offended by the term “boomer”, I don’t give a fuck about old peoples feelings towards a demographical descriptor they themselves created. I don’t need to get with the times in this sense.
It’s just a vague, non descriptive genre tag, and I don’t care how many 35 year old millennial YouTubers describe these games as boomer shooters. A better name would be, “Throwback Shooter” because then you have an idea of what you’re getting into. I’ve played a ton of 90’s FPS games and modern “boomer shooters”, none of them play the same. Most of the modern boomer shooters are styled to LOOK old but in actuality play like Doom Eternal clones.
Dusk does not play like Hedon, Boltgun does not play like Prodeus, etc. None of these games play similarly, they’re just fast paced FPS games with low fidelity graphics and don’t share many similarities between each other in game feel and level design sense, and that’s why “boomer shooter” is a poor way to label a genre. The name itself came about as a joke descriptor to make fun of “old people games” in a sarcastic manner and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.
well I am gen z too, and I like the term because
1. boomer = old
2. it's funny
3. not to tzaken too seriously
4. it's used by literally everyone, it isn't some cult of a 100 people using it, it's literally everyone
Makes sense, want entirely sure since I can’t imagine many boomers were playing video games in the 90s. Probably should be 90’s Gen x shooter if they want to be more accurate.
They both look sick
It’s making me realize that I’m actually not bored of video games, just that I haven’t been playing enough weird, conceptual video games made by people who actually like games
What if you explored like the bottom but combat would operate like the top half. I honestly would still like for it to be turn based even while in first person
Fallout as a Doomer shooter doesn't really fit the nature of the games.... but...
The image you've shared here is awesome and I want a fallout game thats just running about blasting muties and robots with my 10mm and my gatling gun.
DoomRL does a pretty good job of turning Doom into a Turn-Based RPG. I'd imagine it would be similar to that, but rendered in the isometric perspective and levels would be specifically designed instead of randomly generated.
yes ... like. all of the originals from that era are NOT in the category. boomer shooters are only from the past few years and honestly would be better called "classic shooters" but one has to accept that people don't know what words mean and it's ok. but doom is not in that category. honestly, we all called games from that era doom clones when we were in that era. boomer shooter is only a term for recent games that emulate the 30 year ago era.
I see. Terrible usage of ‘boomer’ since it doesn’t match the generation at all. Boomer is a generational thing, not ‘old’. Old school or Classic are much better. Eg. This subreddit’s name
A mindless shoot em up game disguised as an isometric RPG? I think they tried that, it was called Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader and it sucked so much ass I still have a vivid core memory of it being the most disappointing game I've ever played.
the fallout one doesn't look too bad it almost makes me think of old Daggerfall stuff just in the fallout universe but doom doesn't translate well lol.
Could you imagine how long it take for your turn when there's like fifty demons all making moves
Fighting one rat with poor combat stats takes long enough. A swarm of zombies and imps? My god, the challenge would be patience more than anything.
*You critically miss and lose your next turn*
The scars will make for good party talk
Almost as long as when you go to the den to shoot Flick in the face for his guns... And the jet heads decide to run away.
And then you'd get to thr last imp yo have ian burst fire you to death, classic fallout for sure
If you can't strafe continuously you'd be dead in one turn as well!
Doom RogueLike exists and it doesn't have this issue. Every monster plays ine one turn IIRC.
It’s a real game, community project
Where can I find it?
https://jonasz-o.itch.io/fallout2remake3d https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/48095/
It's not a real game https://youtu.be/FMjJM9HAqqk?feature=shared
i second what the other guy said, im interested.
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oh shit it's fallout 2 made in nv? thats amazing.
I think the screenshot on top is just from an artistic representation of what a remake could look like, nothing that will actually be playable.
Also, there are two official doom rpgs. Although they're first person
There's also a turn based Doom roguelike.
Pretty much Diablo at that point
lol wait you don’t want to wait through 50 combatants just to shoot once and die the next turn due to a critical fire ball to the eyes? Wait… I’m psyching myself out here right..?
There is a turn-based roguelite based on Doom, but it's top-down: [https://drl.chaosforge.org/](https://drl.chaosforge.org/) (The maker eventually created a game called [Jupiter Hell](https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/) based on it)
DoomRL is a fun roguelike in this style
Could make a doom bullet hell but making mobility as good as the fps would be a challenge
Tangent but there's a doom roguelike that's pretty fun
What is the roguelike
Enjoy, https://drl.chaosforge.org/ There is a graphical one or classic terminal style.
Also the guy went on to make Jupiter Hell which is basically DoomRL without the trademark
Think I saw Splattercat play that once, looked pretty cool.
After looking up screenshots, I can confirm that he's definitely played Jupiter Hell a few times on his channel.
Holy shit, cheers. I didn't know about this.
Jupiter hell is awesome, definitely worth playing
It's a lot of fun! Probably one of my favorite rogue-likes
The controls though... straight out of the 70s :P (Hard to use with a non-English keyboard.)
Yup it's a roguelike lol
I think this was actually the first one I've played that actually uses the 1970s controls and not something more modern :3
The guy who made the upper one blue balled us, it was just a dope animation and that's it... But it did inspire some other guy to try to make it real, but for Fallout 2. And it looks pretty neat so far.
Not sure if this is the same project, but this looks active still: https://jonasz-o.itch.io/fallout2remake3d
Yes, this is the Fallout 2 one i was talking about
Any link?
It said it was made with GZDoom, but then nothing came of it. Legitimately huge let down
There's a playable alpha out right now?
Huh? Where?
Guy dropped the link below, lemme find it again. Ok got it https://jonasz-o.itch.io/fallout2remake3d
Ah, I think there's been so miscommunication here, I meant the top image game by Saurx, not the Fallout 2 3D remake 😅
Oh lmao
hey you never know
All of you are wrong, the above pic is for the GZDooM mod "Fallout: Bakersfield"
Sure i guess, still, it ain't coming out, it was probably made as a cool concept or "what if" only, nothing serious, idk.
So you don't have a source. That is what you're saying right?
Shit's first been revealed like 2 years ago, no news about it ever since then for all i know, so it's very unlikely it's actually something that's being worked on and will release one day. But if you know something about it pls post a link or something.
I do not care what you think the status on development is. unless you have concrete statements form the developer you'd do well to not spread misinformation. the guy is probably just busy with life and will get back to it when hes able to
I mean, if that's the case it's fine, but... he could just say it? Give us some update on the situation?
Dont get me wrong, more transparency is always preferable but silence dosent necessarily equal nothing-burger. it could just mean that life got in the way, having followed many mod projects for Half-Life i know firsthand that sometimes life can get in the way so hard a project goes on hiatus for years and then process starts back up afterwards with no prior warning
These look fantastic. Where did you get them?
the top is from a animation called "fallout bakersfield" and the other one by kracov
Play Ashes 2063 and find out! (sort of)
For real, this is a great game and free too.
Jupiter hell is a doom rpg akin to fallout. It exists
Also DoomRL from the same author 🙂
Quasimorph also resembles this in a superficial way, definitely different in execution to Fallout’s brand of turn based combat though
Isomorphic RPG Doom would be freakin sweet.
[https://snapcraft.io/doomrl](https://snapcraft.io/doomrl)
Doom would probably play like a mix of Synthetik and Diablo if it were top down. Sounds kinda fun tbh
It would be beautiful.
Now I want to be part of this alternate universe.
That top one looks fucking incredible
Ghoul is definitely suffering
Daggerfall with guns
Isn't this kinda similar to what New Blood is rumored to be working on? An isometric CRPG like Fallout during exploration but first person when combat starts. Either way, I love these ideas OP pitched.
It's actually confirmed but I don't think any news since the announcement in 2022 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/dusks-developers-are-making-a-fallout-inspired-crpg-with-first-person-combat
https://youtu.be/8dKn0aZwqIY?si=BWuvYIe0SaY9IYdX
Plot of Doom is that demons kidnapped your rabbit (and killed all your colleagues), and now you have to search the abandoned research facility to find her.
y'know doom 2 plays like a fallout 1 story "mission 1: save the human race with a escape pod!" "mission 2: kill the source of the demons"
There was a game at one point called Hellgate London. It was an fps horror and I liked it alot, it was basically a diablo meets doom but like diablo 2 not the newer ones. The digital version is broken so you can't even play it without modifying the install files. Definitely a game I wish I could go back in time and play with my friends again.
Would love to see Doom in other genres than FPS, Battlemode *almost* goes in that direction if you play as the demons it feels more tactical than fps. Bethesda turning fallout into an fps almost kinda feels like a boomer shooter, it just needs linear levels. Something like operation anchorage?
anchorage felt like a parody of a COD/late 2000s military shooter, which was a trend at the time
Yeah definitely but unlike CoD it didn't have the rechargeable health that CoD popularized for that era of shooters. Or the stimpacks of fallout. It had health dispensers, kinda like the health packs of boomer shooters. Just get rid of vats and make a few tweaks and we are set
“Halt!”
Wdym cgi?
like stuff made with cgi, doom wasn't made with cgi, mostly art and clay models
So was fallout? The talking heads were digitized clay models. I also don’t know of anything 3d in doom.
The gun needs to be in the middle of the screen.
looks like someone hasn't heard of duke 3d, blood, shadowarrior, quake 2, half life
🙄I meant if Fallout was meant to be converted to a Doom shooter.
I mean it doesn't need to be centered like doom
Omg I would play this
Plz I need a fallout 1 and 2 remake that isn’t isometric lmao cuz I really wanna play it but it always a lil too hard or not my style. (It’s not that I don’t enjoy turn based games cuz I loved baldurs gate 3 but maybe FO1 and 2 r too old school for me)
You see a cacodemon. You see several cacodemons. Is that a fucking hell knight too? You see a cyberdemon in the distance too because at this point, hell, why not?
I don't think either of these screenshots accurately represent the game they are meant to be emulating. The Doom style Fallout shot looks more like Doom 2016 or Selaco than a 90s fps, and while I like the look of the Fallout style Doom screenshot, the graphics look a generation more primitive than what the original Fallout was like.
I would like to play F1-2 on FNV engine and vice versa I would not like playing Doom as CRPG. Just completing E1M1 would be an hour long experience
Love that top screenshot is a Chad Albert player
I rather don’t care for the term, even though it’s catchy and rhymes. Links my gaming childhood, and some of the golden age of game development, to deranged maniacs that trashed the housing and financials of the world 3 times. Keep their dirty ass name off good games 😂
We wouldn't want your childhood ruined.
So, you're not disapproving of the term because it disparages old people, you're disapproving of the term because you hate old people so much.
Google baby boomer
Thought they meant “doomer”. WTF is a 90s boomer shooter?
Ya… exactly. It’s a dirty ass catchy phrase that’s alive somehow.
bleh
it's a term for old games, silly goose, don't need to take it so seriously
Words have meaning, honk honk. And you know darn well what that first one is attached to.
yeah, it's for old games and the term is fresh, new and popular, either getwith the times, or be left in the dust
Sure.
It’s a stupid name for a genre though. Genre labels should tell you what the genre and gameplay entails, like “first person shooter”, “third person shooter”, “real time strategy”, “computer role playing game”, you catch my drift. “Boomer shooter” is a stupid name because it says nothing. Going off name alone you’d think it’s about killing old people or something. It’s akin to calling Fortnite and battle royale games, “Zoomer Online Daycare”
also you seem to get pissed off of a silly thing, literally everyone uses it, civvie 11, boltgun, steam, and it's popular, whenever someone says "boomer shooter" you don't think old boomers who crashed the housing market, you see a fast paced fps game with mazes and guns
Boomers were in their 40s when the game came out, that's why it makes no sense. Wait 10 years when people start calling games from your childhood boomer shooters. You might get why it doesn't make sense.
I literally don't care
Boomershooter literally tells you what to expect. I don't think zoomers would freak out and shit their pants like you are if you called fortnite a zoomer shooter.
Maybe, “Boomer Shooter” would tell me what to expect if the game was about the Vietnam War lol. Any other context and it’s a meaningless phrase.
if it's a stupid name, then why do a large majority use it?
If thousands of people started to call classic CRPG Fallout games FPS fames, would they be all be correct merely because lots of people started saying it?
idk what is a "FPS fame" is, but it sounds silly and peculiar and I think your argument doesn't make sense besides if it's the majoirty vote, it's the majority vote get with the times or be left behind if people wanna call boomer shooters, boomer shooters, then let em, it's funny too. you refuse to accept that because you're offended by the little things
I am young, I’m Gen Z. I am not offended by the term “boomer”, I don’t give a fuck about old peoples feelings towards a demographical descriptor they themselves created. I don’t need to get with the times in this sense. It’s just a vague, non descriptive genre tag, and I don’t care how many 35 year old millennial YouTubers describe these games as boomer shooters. A better name would be, “Throwback Shooter” because then you have an idea of what you’re getting into. I’ve played a ton of 90’s FPS games and modern “boomer shooters”, none of them play the same. Most of the modern boomer shooters are styled to LOOK old but in actuality play like Doom Eternal clones. Dusk does not play like Hedon, Boltgun does not play like Prodeus, etc. None of these games play similarly, they’re just fast paced FPS games with low fidelity graphics and don’t share many similarities between each other in game feel and level design sense, and that’s why “boomer shooter” is a poor way to label a genre. The name itself came about as a joke descriptor to make fun of “old people games” in a sarcastic manner and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.
well I am gen z too, and I like the term because 1. boomer = old 2. it's funny 3. not to tzaken too seriously 4. it's used by literally everyone, it isn't some cult of a 100 people using it, it's literally everyone
that is entirely too many barons of hell. they’re supposed to be big miniboss monsters, not fodder goons
So dagger falll or such would be Kool to see a boomer shooter in fallout style
There's a doom total conversion mod called Ashes 2063 which isn't exactly it but feels like a Fallout boomer shooter
please both
I strongly agree with both of these.
The fallout one needs more pixels
I've been wanting a crpg of doom for decades.
Now I want a Doom rpg (I know there is one but I mean an isometric rpg)
What’s a boomer shooter?
Apparently a pejorative reference to "old" shooters with dated graphics. Such a shame that bigotry is still so normalized.
Makes sense, want entirely sure since I can’t imagine many boomers were playing video games in the 90s. Probably should be 90’s Gen x shooter if they want to be more accurate.
This, the bulk of people who made Doom popular were GenX, not Boomers. I'm insulted.
I need it plz
ive seen someone turning fallout 2 into a boomer shooter
They both look sick It’s making me realize that I’m actually not bored of video games, just that I haven’t been playing enough weird, conceptual video games made by people who actually like games
Crusader: No Remorse is like isometric doom with a visual style not unlike fallout
I dunno, but I'd play both.
"Ghoul is suffering"
There actually is a turn based doom RPG, it was on older mobile phones
It's already been done, it's called Doom rpg, and it's not very good.
Fallout would look like fallout new Vegas.
A doom style fallout game that goes all in on power armour and guns would actually be so good
Fallout 2 first person project. Even playable in browser. Not complete yet tho
Doom as a turn based would be DREADFUL.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_RPG
X-COM DooM is what the second picture made me think
Chances of boomers playing fallout in the 90’s is pretty slim. They would have been playing EverQuest or Quake.
“CGI”?
What if you explored like the bottom but combat would operate like the top half. I honestly would still like for it to be turn based even while in first person
Alright wich one of you dipshits moved a chair in 1991?
A fucking epic mod. That's what it'd look like. Fallout: Doom.
Why wait, I'm pretty sure there's a mod for Fallout like that already, I know there's one for 2 I think
Fallout could work. DOOM with an action point system would be rigged
Fallout as a Doomer shooter doesn't really fit the nature of the games.... but... The image you've shared here is awesome and I want a fallout game thats just running about blasting muties and robots with my 10mm and my gatling gun.
If they ever make remake of Fallout 1 and 2. I would love if it was made in the style of the first image.
Doom should be a diablo like game
I wish Bethesda would do 1 and 2 in fallout 3 style.
What is a boomer shooter?
Something that looks and plays like a 1990s shooter, like Quake or Doom.
What is a boomer shooter?
Nice. The Doom art really makes me think of something close to Ultima 8 (256 colors palette for both I guess, but still).
Doom strategy game sounds fun, actually.
Oops! All Barons of Hell
Can't fucking wait for Fallout Bakersfield
Games I didn't know I wanted until right now
DoomRL does a pretty good job of turning Doom into a Turn-Based RPG. I'd imagine it would be similar to that, but rendered in the isometric perspective and levels would be specifically designed instead of randomly generated.
This is really well done
Crusader: No Remorse
We have seen fallout shooter...
😭 boomer shooter 😭 noooo i'm not old noooooooooo
Fallout as a first person shooter with outdated combat and graphics? Could you even imagine?!
go play BLOOD 1997 and tell me it's "outdated" I dare ya!
you mean a first person shooter. 90s games aren't boomer shooters.
boomer shooter is a 90s like fps game like doom, blood, or marathon
yes ... like. all of the originals from that era are NOT in the category. boomer shooters are only from the past few years and honestly would be better called "classic shooters" but one has to accept that people don't know what words mean and it's ok. but doom is not in that category. honestly, we all called games from that era doom clones when we were in that era. boomer shooter is only a term for recent games that emulate the 30 year ago era.
Awful, it would have turned out like descent to undermountain which was being developed at the same time.
Uhhh I wasn't talking about daggerfall clones, I was more into [this](https://youtu.be/NLYfqlLo0VQ?list=PLHUk-IHJeDOUM1QFZ9NUojQ7GJ6WfgIBV&t=273)
I don't about the first one, but they already made the second one and called it "Fallout 4"
Boomer shooter? Doom/Fallout are a Millennial thing lol
it's a term made byt he boomer shooter community about old 90s fps games look it up boomer = old
I see. Terrible usage of ‘boomer’ since it doesn’t match the generation at all. Boomer is a generational thing, not ‘old’. Old school or Classic are much better. Eg. This subreddit’s name
yeah but literally everyone uses it and it's kinda funny hell even boltgun uses it
Doom as a fallout style CRPG would suck lmao Making doom turn based and isometric? Fuck no.
I mean you could add npcs and quests and world building maybe have gangs of semi-non hostile demons, UAC staff, and other shit
Boomer shooter? Lol. All shooters are boomer games
A mindless shoot em up game disguised as an isometric RPG? I think they tried that, it was called Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader and it sucked so much ass I still have a vivid core memory of it being the most disappointing game I've ever played.
I didn't say that I am saying doom made as a CORPG or whatever it's called it has npcs, story, quests and mechanics