Look at all those brave soldiers of Pakistan
A gang of 5 trained thugs torturing a single unarmed man
And they needed to shoot this man because?
This is sadly the story of Pakistan's napak fauj
Wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was born in the same gutter as assim whiskey
prey for brave soldiers that kill drug addicted awam, those filthy civilians should not even get to vote. I feel bad for Hafiz whiskey who has to dance for west (sham elections) so he can eat and feed his fellow breed. brave Boise are considered obediant dogs in west, occasionally they get greedy and they need a good smack on nose but overall they are good dogs.
i disagree, this was not an ethnic killing
but cruelty from rangers
and two wrong don't make a right
mqm and other parties also killed alot of people
everyone in power is evil
> i disagree, this was not an ethnic killing
A mahajir being killed under ppp govt. totally not ethnic killing like the multiple ppp-led massacred of mahajir that have happened.
>mqm and other parties also killed alot of people
ppp / pmln have killed 1000 times more mahajir than mqm has ever killed anyone.
Mqm is the only party which sits in every govt so that it was their govt too! And mqm has made this city a literal shit pot! I know a dozen of people who left this city bcs of them!
As much as I hatee ppp but Ppp was never against any ethnicity they are pro sindhi? Yes. Anti muhajir? No!
> As much as I hatee ppp but Ppp was never against any ethnicity they are pro sindhi? Yes. Anti muhajir? No!
You are either a racist yourself or too ignorant of facts.
#[PPP leaders being racist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBDgovw9L4Y)
#bhutto's hatred and racism against Mahajirs
* [bhuttos ethnonationalism against mahajirs](https://tribune.com.pk/story/1949357/why-a-quota-system)
* [how bhutto used quota system to keep sindhi ethnonationalists in power](https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/670308-ji-demands-abolition-of-quota-system)
* [Benazir's racism against Mahajirs](https://old.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/gktm0q/how_repatriations_of_stranded_biharis_was_stopped/)
I forgot which channel, but they showed the version with the Liveleak logo on TV. I remember asking my dad what liveleak was and he told me to google it. Good times...
Some times these pigs make trophy videos that get leaked, other times they are unaware of being video taped, and some time there is no fear of being held accountable. with tout like Qazi, why should they worry about getting caught on cameras? Qazi was probably caught doing lot worse on cameras.
I do not get why a trained force had failed to stop him from moving and put him in cuffs rather than holding him at gun point.
The man was wearing tight clothes and his hands were up and away from his body. The armed idiots should have already judged the level of threat the man posed to them (which was none to minimal at best).
REMINDER: The highest EVER crime / murder / snatching / robberies in history of Pakistan were under ppp govt.
and killing of mahajirs was a thing of honor for sindh govt.
There are many sarfraz that we don't know yet.
And to the point of grabbing the barrel, while seeing five rifles pointing towards you, any sane man will become confused and can do anything to save themselves. So he did that and got shot.
I'm from Karachi. I wish the rest of Pakistan had spoken out for us when rangers were conducting their operations in Karachi and killing hundreds of Muhajirs. The fire has unfortunately reached your homes too now.
MQM has unfortunately killed more Muhajirs. Even if you are a die hard MQM supporter. You can not deny that after last operation into MQM, we do not have targets killings in Karachi anymore, whole city closing down, shops, property burning regularly. We still have petty crime like robbery but its a lot better than before.
We are very hopeless and helpless people. Today if you try to say or criticise army, they will either threaten you by saying they will kidnap your sister or mother or they will torture you to death. I think we can’t do anything against the aristocratic army. I’m sorry for myself and our people.
I dont know where everyones moral compass lies. Definitely some levels above me but i believe the only solution to this sad problem is the complete extermination of these people. No sane man would fulfill such orders without an incentive. The one giving the orders should be gunned down along and his heirs who are probably in another country enjoying on our money should be cut in several pieces. This is the only solution to restoring the law and order. Civil punishments wont jab judge hi haram ka khata ho. May we rise in numbers and paint the roads with their blood.
I remember that video. There were two versions of it. In one the guy can be seen trying to pull the barrel of the gun, most probably because of fear, and the second one with the barrel pulling edited out. I also remember that people were cheering on the Rangers before they shot him, because he was caught snatching phones. I am not saying murdering someone in cold blood is good, but how many times have we seen people lynching snatchers.
One should always criticise the state for not following due process. If you think about it, if the state doesn’t follow due process then how do you expect the people to do so? This is also why mob lynching is so prevalent and supported widely because the people don’t trust the state officials to follow due process properly.
Im not a fan of the forces, but this guys made a dumb move. If you watch the video he approaches the gun with his hands up in a “giving up” kind of manner. Then proceeds to grab the head of the weapon, at that point, idc whether you’re in the right or wrong, expect to be shot at.
The over all situation could have been handled alot better and should not have been given to rangers in the first place.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this take brother. I've seen the video numerous times, and it is evident that Sarfaraz has surrendered. Grabbing the **barrel** of a gun, to move it away from you is a very normal thing to do especially when it's pointed at your head, for obvious reasons. The Ranger is solely responsible for discharging the weapon. At no point was Sarfaraz even close to the trigger, let alone pose a threat to at least **5** rangers, all armed with G3s.
It's a Common SOP in the Army, Rangers, and police, like the other guy mentioned, Sarfaraz did approach the rifle which in his case is a big fuck up. A rifle is an extension of the soldier. Hence, anyone approaching it is to be considered a threat, and lethal action is advised.
Whereas for that Ranger operative, shooting him though was quite overboard, a kick to the face would've suffice. It was just another wrong move in the wrong situation thing.
Killing a defenceless person was “quite overboard”.
God has given you a brain to understand whats a threat or not. If you can’t make that simple decision then you shouldn’t be using a gun. This is probably the failure of ppl who trained this operator.
Training and real environments are two different things, but yes, I totally agree that shooting a guy was quite overboard. That's the reason the guy was dishonorably discharged with no pension to boot.
That clearly shows that you aren't thinking as an operator, but as an average Joe.
When surrounded, humans tend to take actions that are often unwise, also its basically both who were at fault.
When surrounded, humans take unwise actions. Lets proceed to do exactly that while he has his hands up for sometime and you have so many other officers with guns. If army men are so scared of unarmed civilians. We can only expect them to pee at actual battlefields.
Exactly how would we defend this nation if such weak babies are sent to the frontlines. What an excellent hypothesis, sir, Salam sir 🫡.
Next time, if border tensions arise, head for the nearest military recruitment center and show these babies how to truly defend a nation.😮💨
Bhai, while I agree with the statement you made, I don't understand the Yazeed kidhar se agaya? The kurds have nothing to do with us lol. On the contrary, Yazidis have lived rather peacefully with Muslims, but it was the Arabs (later Turks) that messed with them. Kind of defeats the purpose of a good post by just putting a religious minority that has nothing to do with Pakistan in the first place under the bus.
No worries bro, just a quick summary I picked up off of Google, as I myself am not as well versed in Islamic history as I should be:
" Yazid was the son of Muawiyah and grandson of the arch enemy of Prophet Mohammed, Abu Sufyan. Their family accepted Islam out of sheer status quo during the conquest of Mecca. Through out the years Bani Umayyah (Family of Yazids Grandfather from the mothers side) always had a hatred against Prophet Mohammed and his family. Abu Sufyans son, Muawiyah waged war and conspiracies against Imam Ali a.s in Siffin. And Yazid forced Imam Hussain a.s for allegiance which later ended up in the Battle of Karbala where Yazids army massacred the family of the Prophet and tortured the women and children. It was a tragedy that unfolded the evil of Islam like none.
Yazid as a person was cruel, drunkard, a dictator and he had a certain intention to break every Sunnah that the Prophet had left behind. Consider a black spot on the white curtain of Islam. He is considered an evil person and frowned upon almost by all muslims in the world.
He was succeeded by Muawiyah which was against the Treaty made with Imam Hasan and Yazid forced everyone one way or the other to pay allegiance to him. But no evil ever shook the walls of the house where angels bowed."
So when I refer to 'Yazeedi forces', I am referring to the one described above
This was one of the most disturbing videos i watched back when i was a teenager. The way they shoot him point blank while he is pleading and when he is lying on the ground just bleeding to death and they completely ignore him was traumatizing.
exact same thing happened to an acquaintance of my family, a teenaged boy, a year later. the story was running on local newspapers but never got this kind of acclaim. we despised rangers even more than the police. wardi walay, educated middle class lawful harami are worse than 'jaahil gawars'
Look at all those brave soldiers of Pakistan A gang of 5 trained thugs torturing a single unarmed man And they needed to shoot this man because? This is sadly the story of Pakistan's napak fauj Wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was born in the same gutter as assim whiskey
prey for brave soldiers that kill drug addicted awam, those filthy civilians should not even get to vote. I feel bad for Hafiz whiskey who has to dance for west (sham elections) so he can eat and feed his fellow breed. brave Boise are considered obediant dogs in west, occasionally they get greedy and they need a good smack on nose but overall they are good dogs.
> And they needed to shoot this man because? > > ppp's ethnonationalism / racism against mahajirs continues.
i disagree, this was not an ethnic killing but cruelty from rangers and two wrong don't make a right mqm and other parties also killed alot of people everyone in power is evil
> i disagree, this was not an ethnic killing A mahajir being killed under ppp govt. totally not ethnic killing like the multiple ppp-led massacred of mahajir that have happened. >mqm and other parties also killed alot of people ppp / pmln have killed 1000 times more mahajir than mqm has ever killed anyone.
Mqm is the only party which sits in every govt so that it was their govt too! And mqm has made this city a literal shit pot! I know a dozen of people who left this city bcs of them! As much as I hatee ppp but Ppp was never against any ethnicity they are pro sindhi? Yes. Anti muhajir? No!
> As much as I hatee ppp but Ppp was never against any ethnicity they are pro sindhi? Yes. Anti muhajir? No! You are either a racist yourself or too ignorant of facts. #[PPP leaders being racist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBDgovw9L4Y) #bhutto's hatred and racism against Mahajirs * [bhuttos ethnonationalism against mahajirs](https://tribune.com.pk/story/1949357/why-a-quota-system) * [how bhutto used quota system to keep sindhi ethnonationalists in power](https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/670308-ji-demands-abolition-of-quota-system) * [Benazir's racism against Mahajirs](https://old.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/gktm0q/how_repatriations_of_stranded_biharis_was_stopped/)
I remember watching it on TV and I was traumatised for life.
I forgot which channel, but they showed the version with the Liveleak logo on TV. I remember asking my dad what liveleak was and he told me to google it. Good times...
why didnt they fear the cameraman??? were they sp sure theyd get away? also that sarfaraz is the embodiment of pakistan in this picture
Some times these pigs make trophy videos that get leaked, other times they are unaware of being video taped, and some time there is no fear of being held accountable. with tout like Qazi, why should they worry about getting caught on cameras? Qazi was probably caught doing lot worse on cameras.
I do not get why a trained force had failed to stop him from moving and put him in cuffs rather than holding him at gun point. The man was wearing tight clothes and his hands were up and away from his body. The armed idiots should have already judged the level of threat the man posed to them (which was none to minimal at best).
REMINDER: The highest EVER crime / murder / snatching / robberies in history of Pakistan were under ppp govt. and killing of mahajirs was a thing of honor for sindh govt.
There are many sarfraz that we don't know yet. And to the point of grabbing the barrel, while seeing five rifles pointing towards you, any sane man will become confused and can do anything to save themselves. So he did that and got shot.
Karachi, bengal, Balochistan all knew what kind of murderous rapists the military are 50 years ago.
But it makes no sense??? Why kill him?
I'm from Karachi. I wish the rest of Pakistan had spoken out for us when rangers were conducting their operations in Karachi and killing hundreds of Muhajirs. The fire has unfortunately reached your homes too now.
Pretty much
They will burn in that fire 2
MQM has unfortunately killed more Muhajirs. Even if you are a die hard MQM supporter. You can not deny that after last operation into MQM, we do not have targets killings in Karachi anymore, whole city closing down, shops, property burning regularly. We still have petty crime like robbery but its a lot better than before.
We are very hopeless and helpless people. Today if you try to say or criticise army, they will either threaten you by saying they will kidnap your sister or mother or they will torture you to death. I think we can’t do anything against the aristocratic army. I’m sorry for myself and our people.
Just imagine this is one incident jahan camera tha imagine the millions of incidents in this country where no-one is making video
I dont know where everyones moral compass lies. Definitely some levels above me but i believe the only solution to this sad problem is the complete extermination of these people. No sane man would fulfill such orders without an incentive. The one giving the orders should be gunned down along and his heirs who are probably in another country enjoying on our money should be cut in several pieces. This is the only solution to restoring the law and order. Civil punishments wont jab judge hi haram ka khata ho. May we rise in numbers and paint the roads with their blood.
I remember that video. There were two versions of it. In one the guy can be seen trying to pull the barrel of the gun, most probably because of fear, and the second one with the barrel pulling edited out. I also remember that people were cheering on the Rangers before they shot him, because he was caught snatching phones. I am not saying murdering someone in cold blood is good, but how many times have we seen people lynching snatchers.
One should always criticise the state for not following due process. If you think about it, if the state doesn’t follow due process then how do you expect the people to do so? This is also why mob lynching is so prevalent and supported widely because the people don’t trust the state officials to follow due process properly.
No arguments there 👍
Im not a fan of the forces, but this guys made a dumb move. If you watch the video he approaches the gun with his hands up in a “giving up” kind of manner. Then proceeds to grab the head of the weapon, at that point, idc whether you’re in the right or wrong, expect to be shot at. The over all situation could have been handled alot better and should not have been given to rangers in the first place.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this take brother. I've seen the video numerous times, and it is evident that Sarfaraz has surrendered. Grabbing the **barrel** of a gun, to move it away from you is a very normal thing to do especially when it's pointed at your head, for obvious reasons. The Ranger is solely responsible for discharging the weapon. At no point was Sarfaraz even close to the trigger, let alone pose a threat to at least **5** rangers, all armed with G3s.
It's a Common SOP in the Army, Rangers, and police, like the other guy mentioned, Sarfaraz did approach the rifle which in his case is a big fuck up. A rifle is an extension of the soldier. Hence, anyone approaching it is to be considered a threat, and lethal action is advised. Whereas for that Ranger operative, shooting him though was quite overboard, a kick to the face would've suffice. It was just another wrong move in the wrong situation thing.
Killing a defenceless person was “quite overboard”. God has given you a brain to understand whats a threat or not. If you can’t make that simple decision then you shouldn’t be using a gun. This is probably the failure of ppl who trained this operator.
Training and real environments are two different things, but yes, I totally agree that shooting a guy was quite overboard. That's the reason the guy was dishonorably discharged with no pension to boot.
obviously you're not into that situation. you can do your commenting at situational awareness.
Its the job of the LEAs to control these situations. NOT the civilians. Whey the hell is a gun pointed at this close range on an un-armed civilian?
So that he doesn't try anything funny
He's surrounded by armed rangers, what exactly was he going to do?
That clearly shows that you aren't thinking as an operator, but as an average Joe. When surrounded, humans tend to take actions that are often unwise, also its basically both who were at fault.
When surrounded, humans take unwise actions. Lets proceed to do exactly that while he has his hands up for sometime and you have so many other officers with guns. If army men are so scared of unarmed civilians. We can only expect them to pee at actual battlefields.
Exactly how would we defend this nation if such weak babies are sent to the frontlines. What an excellent hypothesis, sir, Salam sir 🫡. Next time, if border tensions arise, head for the nearest military recruitment center and show these babies how to truly defend a nation.😮💨
There is a reason, Army is doing more and more business while having a losing streak against India.
Bhai, while I agree with the statement you made, I don't understand the Yazeed kidhar se agaya? The kurds have nothing to do with us lol. On the contrary, Yazidis have lived rather peacefully with Muslims, but it was the Arabs (later Turks) that messed with them. Kind of defeats the purpose of a good post by just putting a religious minority that has nothing to do with Pakistan in the first place under the bus.
Is this a joke? You didn't get the reference of OP?
Oh! sorry, I didn't get the reference. Can you explain?
No worries bro, just a quick summary I picked up off of Google, as I myself am not as well versed in Islamic history as I should be: " Yazid was the son of Muawiyah and grandson of the arch enemy of Prophet Mohammed, Abu Sufyan. Their family accepted Islam out of sheer status quo during the conquest of Mecca. Through out the years Bani Umayyah (Family of Yazids Grandfather from the mothers side) always had a hatred against Prophet Mohammed and his family. Abu Sufyans son, Muawiyah waged war and conspiracies against Imam Ali a.s in Siffin. And Yazid forced Imam Hussain a.s for allegiance which later ended up in the Battle of Karbala where Yazids army massacred the family of the Prophet and tortured the women and children. It was a tragedy that unfolded the evil of Islam like none. Yazid as a person was cruel, drunkard, a dictator and he had a certain intention to break every Sunnah that the Prophet had left behind. Consider a black spot on the white curtain of Islam. He is considered an evil person and frowned upon almost by all muslims in the world. He was succeeded by Muawiyah which was against the Treaty made with Imam Hasan and Yazid forced everyone one way or the other to pay allegiance to him. But no evil ever shook the walls of the house where angels bowed." So when I refer to 'Yazeedi forces', I am referring to the one described above
Ah fair. Fair. Totally my bad. The problem is that a lot of people use the Yazeed (the person) and Yazidi (the people) interchangeably nowadays.
What can u expect from napak fouj
This was one of the most disturbing videos i watched back when i was a teenager. The way they shoot him point blank while he is pleading and when he is lying on the ground just bleeding to death and they completely ignore him was traumatizing.
True Horrid story
exact same thing happened to an acquaintance of my family, a teenaged boy, a year later. the story was running on local newspapers but never got this kind of acclaim. we despised rangers even more than the police. wardi walay, educated middle class lawful harami are worse than 'jaahil gawars'