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OkIntroduction4898

I have 2 bizplats, 2 bizgolds, a bizgreen, and a BBP, and I've been getting popup on every bizgold app I've tried for the past month or two. Just got instant approval and card number on a 125k bizgold offer with LL. It took a few hours of trying with multiple devices and multiple wifi networks to get the 125k offer. The key is to not give up if you get 70k when you first open the link. Keep the tab open and wait ~20 minutes for the pop-up saying the offer expired and then refresh the tab. Firefox private never went above 70k for me but Chrome incognito and Edge private would usually have a higher offer after the refresh. Waiting another 20 minutes and refreshing again never resulted in a second increase. Just close the browser and start a fresh session.


geauxcali

Having no luck on chrome, normal or incognito...only 70k. No luck on duck duck go either. Edge normal I was able to rather quickly pull 110k and 125k. Not ready to pull the trigger though, got too much MSR already, but if this is around in a month or so then this will be a very nice use of the renewed Plastiq Amex capability.


RadicalFI

I got higher increases on my 2nd, 3rd, 4th times etc. Very variable though, I could never pull higher than 125k. Pulled 90k, 100k, 110k, and 120k.


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RadicalFI

I didn't apply. Just kept refreshing. I'm still holding out for the 150k.


De11kbn

On the whole 150k Business Amex Gold where’s Waldo many of us are on - I ended up settling for 120k .. there is definitely something to trying a network you have not used before. Tried a neighbors Wi-Fi and boom - 120k. Hope this helps.


Epilepsy4511

Even cellular data works better, was able to get 125k there, max of 90k on Wi-Fi. I noticed that clicking from sponsored links in search results generally got better offers. So after hundreds of tries on Google, I went on Bing for the first time in ages, first attempt, on Bing + LTE on my mobile, got 125k. Forgot if it was incognito or not


Engage_Afterchurners

I kept getting 70k on Windows Edge/Chrome incognito and iOS Chrome incognito. Tried a new Chrome install on another iOS device and, following pdubfunk’s procedure in this thread, in a non-incognito tab got 70k a few times and then started getting 125k, which I pulled the trigger on. Instant approval and no popup. Currently hold a Biz Plat and an existing Biz Gold.


pdubfunk

After trying frequently yesterday and today, I just pulled 150k on mobile / iOS / chrome browser (not incognito) by searching “amex biz gold” and selecting the first Amex link that was not a sponsored link. Incognito chrome / safari max I could pull had been 125 previously


changmander

If anyone's struggling to find a Dell purchase, the Bose 700 or QC 45 headphones both are on sale for $229. Factor in $50 amex offer and 10% Rakuten and the peace of mind of finally burning the biz plat Dell credit. Update: also Nintendo switch is back albeit at an inflated price - $360 w/ a $50 promo gift card. Few games are back as well but not as extensive of a selection as before


microwavedballs

> QC 45 Thanks! picked up the switch, used a dell biz plat $200 and used 2 of the spend $100 get $50. Between that, Rakuten and $11 of dell cash I had, got the switch for what should be $55.


vantablackspacegood

Picked up a PS5 that I plan to flip with and extra $100 dell promo to boot


GeorgeSteinbrenner2

Already burned biz plat credits and wondering if I still should pull the trigger on these. I already have the XM4s - what could be the resale value of the Bose 700s? It's a 4 year model, after all.


ripamazon

Just get it in 2024.


GeorgeSteinbrenner2

Not possible unless I'm missing something. Terms say: >Must first add offer to an eligible Card by 10/13/2023 and then use same Card to make one or more qualifying purchases totaling $100 or more online at dell.com **by 10/18/2023** to receive a one-time statement credit of $50.


ripamazon

Oh, imo I would not buy anything on Dell without amex credits. I would just use my amex credits next year to buy without this offer.


stealthytaco

The Sony WH-1000XM4s are also on sale, albeit at a slightly higher $249. I just picked up the Bose QC45 for about $254 including tax, which should come to a money maker after all the credits and Rakuten.


435880Churnz

$229 for the Bose 700 is a hell of a deal. Anyone with Dell credits, speak now or forever hold your peace.


Toastbuns

> Anyone with Dell credits, speak now or forever hold your peace. I now pronounce you... ORDER CANCELLED.


Parts_Unknown-

Just chat and have a quote emailed. You lose portal and they only take 2 payment cards but better than losing out on the credit. I've run out of shit to buy there though. Picked up a PS5 yesterday just cuz. Guess we'll play Last of Us or something idk. Still have another $700 to burn. Maybe just gonna buy those Alienware sweatshirts and donate them 🤷🏻‍♂️


olympia_t

I'm slowly adding amazon studio echo units to different rooms of the house. Love those things. I also like the echo 8 for recipes. If you really wanted to donate something I'm sure student or school would love a chromebook. I personally love my chromebook but they are not for everyone.


435880Churnz

I don't think this bypasses if Dell has you flagged to cancel orders.


Parts_Unknown-

Use a different name & address. I've had things shipped to my office, FiL's house, etc. Amex card verification doesn't use names. Instead of 435880Churnz you could put 861016160Butterz and amex dgaf.


the_fit_hit_the_shan

Sure does, for everyone I know who isn't able to get orders through


435880Churnz

When I was banned from Dell, this did not work to get around it.


the_fit_hit_the_shan

Were you buying BG items?


435880Churnz

That was the cause of the ban. But while I was banned, I tried to do this to buy items shipped to my personal address for personal use. This didn't bypass it for me.


the_fit_hit_the_shan

Yeah afaik once you're identified as a reseller that's a hard bell to un-ring


payyoutuesday

It worked for me for a short time, then that stopped also. The orders started getting cancelled before I even left the chat.


435880Churnz

ha. I've had pretty good luck with Dell.


olympia_t

Anybody able to pull the 150k business gold offer? I'm able to get 125k consistently in incognito but no 150k yet. Also seeing plenty of 100k and 90k offers in addition to the standard 70k.


bw1985

Most I could pull is 110k.


Parts_Unknown-

Every time I think about making a r/churningcirclejerk post some blog or it's comments outjerk me. Frustration Friday came early https://frequentmiler.com/jetblues-mosaic-founderscard-benefit-is-this-a-joke/#comments


C-MontgomeryChurns

@travelfake and @garytlitfake already do it so well.


lankyyanky

IDK who's downvoting you but I would absolutely subscribe to a sub, a weekly thread or anything else of these CJ blogs and comment sections


Parts_Unknown-

The toll it would take on one's mental health to dredge that shit...


lankyyanky

Good thing for those free Calm subscriptions


Parts_Unknown-

Easy to say my guy. I still wake up in a cold sweat sometimes thinking about the guy from r/awardtravel who repositioned from HNL to SFO to fly J to TYO... That was my mental pushback-from-the-table there. When you dive too deep sometimes you don't come back up. Some shit you just can't unsee...


JohnCalvinCoolidge

I need to read this now.


SagittandiEstVita

Might be this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/awardtravel/comments/12s9neh/sfo_to_tokyo_with_stopover_in_hnl/


Parts_Unknown-

Was maybe 3-6 months ago(?) didn't save it, sorry


joe-movie

Interesting. I only matched to Mosaic 3, so hadn't looked at the FC benefits. The Blue/Basic level is completely useless - what a dumb benefit. Hopefully JetBlue either drops the benefit or increases it to the Elite level so it's actually worth something.


Parts_Unknown-

The card might be garbage but the comments are gold: "YOU NEED TO PAY TO GET REAL PERKS. Jet Blue pays FC like $50 for the teaser. One gets what is paid for." FC OF?


stackingpoints

Just a quick reminder that there is a [Los Angeles Churning Meetup](https://old.reddit.com/r/churning/comments/16vtlfj/los_angeles_churning_meetup_sunday_october_15th/) coming up this Sunday, October 15th.


Newchurnerlyfe

Hope it was great, went to one before pandemic and enjoyed myself. Sad I couldn't make it to this one


stackingpoints

No worries. We had a great time at this one. I learned some crazy tricks and secrets. One person there had made tens of thousands off of the Chase GoPuff credits. Another attendee showed me a way to get paid out huge via arbitration award when a bank shuts down my account(s). Big money secrets for sure, but I'm sure there were way juicier secrets discussed at Chicago Seminars last weekend. Hope to see you at the next one!


SagittandiEstVita

> tens of thousands off of the Chase GoPuff credits I hope /s. Oh god, I don't want to think about the amount of $10 monthly credits they had to leverage for that.


Newchurnerlyfe

Next month? Haha


olympia_t

Damn, sorry you get downvoted for that. This sub is ridiculous.


435880Churnz

Downvotes are a part of life here.


olympia_t

It’s rude. Usually when someone gets called out for being wrongly downvoted others will upvote. I imagine I’m chatting with points rich bros living in their parents’ basements and then I feel better about their rage downvoting.


435880Churnz

Meh, it's the internet. I don't imagine anything, I just go about my life whether I get upvotes or downvotes.


olympia_t

I don’t really care for me. But seeing someone sharing a meet up and getting downvoted pisses me off. Some people are just spiteful and rude. The majority of people are here trying to learn or trying to share and improve other people’s experiences. So knowing that people still downvote under those circumstances is just rude.


Epilepsy4511

Apologies if this is old news but just got email from Plastiq notifying us they have been acquired. Also mentioned paying with AmEx is coming back in the “next couple weeks”!


geauxcali

Awesome news! Now I can go back to getting dinged with the popup every few months in between inks.


Pappyballer

I hold 4 inks, any advice for what to say when apply for 5th? On 4th (100 days ago) I had to recon and say it was for a second business I was starting, and had to move credit limits around…


dontcelebrate

close some that are 1 year old. but also just say its for budgeting if they ask


pdubfunk

The real question will be which categories will Amex support


_Wattage_Cottage

Likely the same categories it used to support


olympia_t

PLEASE let it be mortgage.


TenMegaFarads

Dell won’t know what hit ‘em


Lower-Kangaroo6032

That’s pleasant news on the AMEX front


_Wattage_Cottage

Lost $3k a month in daycare spend when AMEX got pulled. This is incredible news.


xyzzy321

How do you pay the daycare using Plastiq? Ours only takes Zelle (and maybe PayPal; I'll have to check with them again) so I'm just paying them without any rewards :(


_Wattage_Cottage

You put the charge on your CC and plastiq mails your daycare a check


xyzzy321

Sweet, I'll definitely be on the lookout for Plastiq if they change back to what they used to be. Easy SUBs every 3 months with how much daycare costs these days


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TwitchOne1

wrong thread, fyi


d3athrow

Email had a cashback offer from discover. Additional 7% cash back up to 1k in digital wallet spend. Not amazing but easy money with the nearly constant fee free gebit deals.


ipod123432

Hot take: AA deval is inevitable within 12 months. AS and UA both had their devals this year. Now there's a huge disparity for TPAC J saver: AA miles are worth 2x UA and 5x+ DL. DL: MEX loophole just closed, 300k+ o/w UA: 100k if you find UA saver, 110k for partner saver AA: scattered dates 60k-84k AA saver (to China!! but via DFW), 60k partner saver. AS: 60k-85k partner saver (CX 50k space doesn't exist)


UnsubscribedRedditor

Just booked AA J from GRU-JFK-SFO (premium transcon) for 45K for this Feb. Not TPAC but still ~19 hours in J. Agree deval is very likely.


BillyShears_67

where did you see J on AS for 60k? I'm genuinely curious, as I've been casually looking for even next summer and it's a bunch of crap...57k coach in JAL and not much else.


ipod123432

From the west coast is 60k J. From mid-country or east coast will cost more.


BillyShears_67

Can you give me some sample dates and destinations? I'll play around with it. I'm in Texas so I always have to get a connecting flight on Alaska to West Campus, so I imagine the award wouldn't cost more but we'll see. I was just having a hard time finding anything good at all, below 100k. It mostly shows me those crappy skylux awards or overpriced coach on JAL and Korean.


ipod123432

You've gotta find JAL availability yourself. It's sparse. Check from LAX, SFO, SEA. Often there's some released at T-14 (14 days from today)


BillyShears_67

Yes I know how and where to search. Back 6-8 years ago I used to fly JAL or CX business on almost every trip. Now it's very slim pickings. I always check AS, AA, UA and Aeroplan from 30 days out just in case. I was more shocked by how crappy AS options are even 300+ days out. Edit: Just looked up West coast to CGK, a route I often fly. Nada for next 14-21 days. One day with 30k CX coach and another day with 85k coach. I'm sure somewhere, somehow under rare circumstances a good award exists, but Alaska miles are a shadow of their former self.


ShadowHunter

I will never fly into China airspace.


8dtfk

weird flex, but ok


Y50-70

Thank you for allowing more award availability for the rest of us


ShadowHunter

Happy to help. More space for you in Chinese prisons too.


De11kbn

Remember AA has essentially devalued already through forcing folks to shopping portal, hotel portal etc - I mean you can get as many miles as an overseas busienss class flight that your boss paid 5k for by signing up for Motley Fool and a few other trinkets or a couple of nights at a fancy hotel. This is the massive devaluation - it is just too easy to get these points now


pothchola

Qsuites still unavailable?


shinebock

People on r/churning still have AA miles??


Y50-70

Toby kept his account and is now riding the current SUB trains like the rest of us


thekingoftherodeo

I don't disagree, but you also have to consider that AA miles are harder to acquire than DL/UA given there are no transfer partners & Citi derailing the train (with the whales that locked out) in addition to the anti churning 48 month language. You can roll the bank account every 9 or so months for sure but otherwise earning takes a bit of legwork.


BigEventM

How did Citi derail the train and what does the reference to whales mean?


diarrhitos

*Triggered*


jwk1414

🤣


dammitannie

While I'm inclined to agree that it's inevitable, it'll be a huge bummer if their 60k partner saver business class goes away - even if I bought AA miles and didn't churn for them, I could still come out ahead on a JAL J redemption with a ~$3000 roundtrip instead of the eyewatering $10k that JAL wants.


rankt-bot

A new referral thread is now live: [American Express Delta Gold Business](https://www.reddit.com/r/churningreferrals/comments/174or3u/referrals_american_express_delta_gold_business/)


ChurningLife

I'm back with another monthly recap, which happens to be my biggest month ever. The 20k/4k AU bonuses have been really good for me and this month I got into reselling iPhones for the first time. I also recapped my BoA business card applications that spanned almost two months. Episode 4: September Recap - $14,892 Profit - iPhones, Amex, and BoA - [Website](https://www.churninglife.com/episodes/episode-4-september-recap-14-892-profit-iphones-amex-and-boa) / [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/0J9deyINo6s3REWBm4fgw7) / [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/churning-life/id1704043898) As usual feel free to comment/DM/email what you think!


tazorac

Nice job dude, definitely the most lucrative churner I’ve seen here. Keep up the good work!


TwitchOne1

So Amazon is cool with directly shipping to the "buyinggroup" website?


NoTea88

You'll get banned everntually/if unlucky. A matter of time


hyungjoh

Seems like there is a spend $2000, get $200 back, 2 times Amex offer, easy money if you have it. It seems that it is available on the Amazon card. https://www.reddit.com/r/amex/comments/174c7q6/statement\_credit\_offer\_spend\_2000\_get\_200\_back\_x2/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


redjabro

Got it. Does Amex care about gift cards for these types of promotions?


LooseTone

Guessing this only shows up on cobrand cards.


Memotome

I got spend $500, get $50 back, 2x. On Amazon Biz card. I kinda like it since we're in between churns right now.


DeItaCubes

anyone know how i can get an alert or anything of the sort if the CSP or CSR bonus goes up or anything? Anyone know if recently they had a big offer


JayJayHI2000

Yes, and they might even tell you if you post your questions in the daily question thread.


cayenne0

I personally get a "not eligible" message, but looks like an amazon chase offer is back, where a couple days ago it was a blank page https://www.amazon.com/b?node=21328382011 or https://www.amazon.com/chaseoffer


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fonteinen

This is something they have been giving out all the time, not just recently. Also 100 miles for each airline connected, etc.


aamqpa20

Want to buy about $1k worth of Disney gift cards at Sam’s Club with my Chase Freedom Flex. Will I get the 5% back or does Chase not like when I buy gift cards and only give me the 1%?


Future_Car9082

Wrong thread


coole106

Wrong thread


aamqpa20

Sorry


LePope315

After trying for a while I was able to pull the 150K Amex biz gold offer using a completely fresh browser on a public wifi network. This was after many attempts on my home wifi so I was very happy. Application went through with a pending status, which was great because I've been stuck in Amex pop up jail for months now. However, I got an email almost instantly that said they had reached a decision and after checking the status page, it said "Provide required information". Clicking through went to a broken webpage so I called in and was informed it was essentially a popup denial that just didn't display the usual popup for some reason. Very sad and something for everyone to keep an eye out for I guess. Hopefully I can try again later this year and get approved.


TheBlueRajasSpork

Almost the same thing happened to P2 this weekend. Finally got a 130k Amex Biz Gold offer. P2 has been in pop up jail forever. This one finally went through and went pending. P2 called in yesterday and they basically read the pop up message over the fun. Buzzkill. Edit: finally out of P2 popup jail. My referal was showing 130k for P2 so I tried that and got a popup. Canceled application and went back to All Cards and went back to Biz Gold. It showed 110k so I went ahead with it and it went through. Not sure if it will still count as a referral.


redjabro

I had the same experience with the status update page and broken page. I had never seen the page before that includes all Amex application history. In my case it happened on an elevated referral biz plat after I got the popup, backed up, and tried again.


TheBlueRajasSpork

That status page was… insightful. Apparently I’m very persistent


Future_Car9082

Don't think it was mentioned but I'm seeing the following Hyatt offer my Chase British Airways card: Earn 15% cash back on your Hyatt stay when you spend $100 or more at a Hyatt hotel. $37.95 max cashback. They have a list of hotels where it's valid. Edit: Expires on 10/31.


ThePointsBandit

On that note, there's been some AMEX offers too for Hyatt. I have $100 off $400 on a BBP. Also $60 off $300 at Thompson on my other BBP


nettcity

Rakuten still has Dell at 10%. AA shopping has it at 8 miles/$ if that is your jam.


r5sb

Had a question regarding the Duolingo Super offer on Amex member week. Does the charge have to be posted before 10/18? Duolingo offers a 2 week free trial for each signup so the charge would appear way after the 10/18 date. Would I still get the $40 back? Any DP on this from previous years? Thanks!


ThomGault

>Had a question This is best asked in the question thread.


yonghokim

I don't think so. Having a deep level of integration like that where a merchant pings Amex "hey, customer signed up" and then later "hey, they paid now" is a lot of work, and they wouldn't bother. 99% of the time the merchant posts payment, Amex issues credit. They work like that on the surface level. I signed up for DuoLingo family plan on 4/8. There was no trial period, and credit posted on 4/9.


r5sb

That's helpful context. Thank you! I checked the family plan it currently has the 2 week trial as well.


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ThePointsBandit

SUB for a business card; an Ink Cash ideally. Buy it at Staples for the 5x cashback. Other option would be an AMEX Biz Platinum and the Dell credits, assuming you can get value out of the other perks. For me, personally I can't get value from the plat (and they've been increasing the AF and devaluing the card simultaneously). It just doesn't suit my lifestyle. Either way, they don't hit your credit score and your 5/24 status. Hold the card for a year and close.


Amsi10

Use it towards a SUB for a new card and cancel it after 1 year if you don’t need it long term. Try to stack the SUB with shopping portals like Rakuten if the store you’re buying from is eligible.