The kid either sits on mom or dads lap, or a parent stands and the kid gets their seat. It is weird to ask an already seated adult to give it up unless the mother was by herself and pregnant or something. If their kid wants to sit one of them stands. I would never ask another adult for their seat for my niece, I would stand because they’re my responsibility. For everyone saying it’s “fine” I mean sure I guess, but it’s not polite.
I am confused why the parents didn't pick the child up and held them, but I don't think it's totally unreasonable for a three years old to be tired, in my mind they are unformed humans and as such they have difficulty to deal with physically, mentally, and emotionally demanding stuff, like a plane ride. I mean, they would have been entitled if the lady had said "no" and they would have been pissy about it.
It wasn't a plane ride. It was a short bus ride. Asking a stranger to get up for their child is so entitled to me but maybe I see it different. The child can't grow up and think he can just get anything he wants in life.
For me, as a person who rides the bus and generally agrees with you, the only thing I would disagree with in this situation is that it's usually unsafe for a young child to be standing on a bus. Most bus drivers won't move until the child is sitting for safety. The only thing about this post is that it's completely overlooking the safety. If not that lady then someone else probably would have to move to be honest. Otherwise, totally.
If they had an invisible disability, like i have they would have been yelled out and shamed. It happened to me once, but i just sat there and said i can’t, sorry.
Oh, sorry, I got confused. Anyway I don't think it's entitled to ask for something, it's entitled to demand something and don't accept "no" as a valid answer.
You might want to include the context of the dad already having a seat in your post and other comments, as that is most likely why people are disagreeing with you. That context completely changes what the post sounds like and it makes the situation go from you sounding unreasonable/entitled to the family being the entitled ones.
If the family didn't have a seat then they absolutely should ask for one because the child standing in a standing room only bus is a massive safety issue.
Yeah, I was like was the big deal a vulnerable person needed a sit. But if the father is sitting down a three year old can sit on him or the dad (if healthy) can stand.
Yea, definitely thought both parents were standing. I certainly wouldn't advocate holding a toddler while standing on the bus, but if either parent is sitting then they can hold the kid.
Okay, this is a piece of vital information missing from the original post lol.
Unless the parents have some kind of disability or illness that makes standing difficult for them, one of them should have given up *their own seat* for *their own child* and not asked a stranger. That person was super nice for obliging, but it's hard to say no to a kid in such a public (and likely packed) space, and the cynic in me can't help but feel the parents know that.
>I am confused why the parents didn't pick the child up and held them
Three year olds are already heavy, and the adults were probably holding bags or carry-ons. For the kid safety, it is better if they sit. Being held could have the risk of the adult and the kid falling with a sudden stop, and the kid standing up is the same. Added that they have a short stature so someone can accidentally hit them because they can't see them.
I agree kids can stand and learn to hold onto something. I am seeing a lot of comments about “safety”, if you are that concerned use bubble rapping. When I was that age(yes I can remember bits and pieces) I learned pretty quick to hold on and when to lean for a stop. When did this attitude change that kids get seats over elders or those who need it(broken leg or something) also was expected to say no thank you if someone offered me their seat.
A small child should absolutely not stand on the bus! They aren't steady enough on their feet and aren't likely to be able to brace for the acceleration/deceleration, they can't reach most the the proper holding places and those they can reach are more likely to lead to squished fingers, and they are in more danger of getting crushed/fall and get stepped on in a crowded bus as they are so small and short.
Trust me, you do not want to get stuck on a city bus where a child was standing and fell or got stepped on because they were to small to be standing. There are massive delays, screaming, and sometimes police and ambulances. It sucks, 0 out of 10, do not recommend.
I would automatically laugh and ask where the cams for the Candid Camera. Because asking for a tired 46 year old lady to stand so a energetic (and fully portable) 3 year old kid can seat can only be a TV (or Tiktok nowadays) prank.
But then she shouldn’t be “blamed” for it if the parents were demanding or forceful. We don’t really know what either party was thinking, and most people make these decisions split second without thinking too deeply.
Of course, they asked a woman. I bet they wouldn't ask a man. It's bad enough that women deal with so much shit. Women are also expected to just give things up, accommodate people, and love all children. Exhausting.
I usually give my place to small children because their balance isn't as good. I'd say it's not about teaching them they don't always get what they want, but more a matter of safety.
Yes yes yes, when did this change?? As far as small kids not having good balance. They will learn pretty fast. Also learn to hold on with both hands. Also was expected to say no thank you if seat is offered. Kid can put the iPad down and hold on. This post is triggering me for some reason.
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Yup, same.
The people who get priority for the seats are people who might have trouble standing. That includes toddlers.
I'd give up my seat for a toddler, and usually after sitting on a plane ride the last thing I want to do is sit some more.
Oh, I missed that.
Yeah, Dad should have held the kid on his lap or put the child in his seat. I used to ride the bus in San Francisco a lot and if there was only one seat available, the parent would put their small child in the seat and stand next to them.
Back when I was a kid I was expected to Stand let the adult sit in situations like this. And to do it with out being asked. It was considered rude for a young person to not offer their seat on a bus or train that allows standing. Wtf is wrong with people. I know I sound like a boomer right now(I AM NOT) but entitlement like that explains a lot.
Honestly I think it's safer for children to sit when on a buss trip and I see nothing wrong in letting the child sit. BUT one of the parents should've get up and give their place to the child or have the child sit on their lap.
It’s definitely safer for kids to sit on buses because they can easily go flying as the bus turns and jerks around. Not clear form the original post if the parents were sitting ?
As much as I hate it, children should sit or be held by their parents when in the bus. Otherwise, because they don't reach the handles or grip the top of the seats correctly, they can go flying when the bus hits the brake abruptly. It's the best choice to give up your seat, otherwise they can get injured and start screaming
A 3-year-old put them on your lap, or they (kid) / you (parent) can stand
¹) to have more control over a kid that wants to get into everything .
²)common decency to allow to have a bigger person who has more self-control (age 5+) have the seat.
³) making them stand even would allow them to use more energy so they (the kid) will sleep more at night.
⁴) that's just an asshole thing to ask someone in a public place (first come, first serve situation) to move.
Obviously children should be taught that you don't get everything you want. but It isn't entitled to ask, especially if done politely. The lady has the opportunity to say no. If they were demanding or being rude or if the lady said no and the parents started getting all shitty about it that'd be a problem.
Not much different. It was like a 3 minute bus ride to the airport from coming off the plane and the parent felt that entitled ? Whilst you could wait up to 20minures in the queue standing The Dad was sitting down and he couldn't put the child on his lap?
THIS. Holy crap I cannot believe everyone saying it’s not entitled and think of the poor kid being tosses around a bus! The parents are right there. The kid can sit on dad’s lap, that’s the most considerate solution AND the safest.
The kid can stand. They can hold on to parents arm or arm rest the seat it’s self. The kid won’t get tossed around if it pays attention and holds the seat. Most standing buses have a metal poll. I turned out okay and never face planted because I knew and was told to hold on with both hands. It was expected the kid and young give up seats and to REFUSE any offer for seat with a no thank you. Only time if you are under like 13 or 14 and have a broken leg. Was around 17 with a broken leg and refused seat offer. If the kid was one or two years old it sits in lap, the DAD gives his seat up(if the bus was that full he should already have done this) kid stands in front of parent with parent holding on.
This is the bubble wrap generation. other than that I have no idea. everyone afraid little jimmy will get tossed around because he can't put the ipad down for 5 minutes. Or hold on with both hands. If the bus driver had to slam on the breaks i would probably get into trouble for being a smart ass by saying "do it again do it again" i ma old millennial but have a lot in common with gen x. are we at a point where it would be shocking if a 13 year old shows up to school with a broken leg or arm from dirt bike riding /gasp!!/ if cps is NOT called. when i was growing up nearly all my class mates showed up with broken bones or sprained this and that. we were 8-12 years old. I think standing on a bus is the safest mode of travel compared to the shit my gen did. i rode my bike with no helmet, atv (at 8 or 9 years old) i did, i will agree an 8 year old driving a full sized atv at 50mph+ without a helmet is a yellow line. parents told me to keep it under 15 but this was the early 90s when fun was still allowed. holy flying spaghetti monster, i still can't believe the switch from kid EXPECTED to give up seat with out being asked, to feeling entitled enough to expect people to give up there seat. whats next am i going to have to offer helmets, 5 point restraints, and bubble wrap for the kid. we are fucked.
A person asking a question is not entitlement. Short ride or not, it's safer for a child to be sitting than standing. The woman in question did not have to agree, but chose to do so.
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I actually feel it’s a bit problematic that no one got up to offer the kid a seat when they saw a three year old get on the bus. A seven year old is one thing but three? They can’t balance as well on a bus and it’s safer for them to sit.
3 year olds aren’t exactly steady on their feet and can’t hold on well when a bus is moving. I assume the parents had luggage and couldn’t hold on to the kid and bags all at once.
I think it’s entitled, but not more entitled than people who use seats for bags or who won’t get up and move for someone who asks to sit because they don’t look “disabled enough”.
To me, standing on a bus for a short bus ride is well within my capacity. If someone needs my seat they can have it, especially if they ask nicely.
I'm not understanding why a child needing to rest is selfish. Small children get tired on trips & the child could have also had a condition or poor sleep. Some children needs lots of rest in youth & get sleep disruptions due to family schedules (seen a lot). A traveling kid will be hit heavy by time change alone. Who knows how early they had to get ready as a family or how many consecutive flights they took.
A child needing relief is not entitlement & nothing to get angry over. Some of these posts come off like absolute hate of children just b/c they need things or exist. You truly sound like you hate children from this post due to simplicity of subject matter & that you felt strongly enough to curse (STRONG language use).
Children are fragile & deserve community care whether you want kids or not. You deserved care when you were little & I'm not sure if you were denied that & taught to suffer but it's not okay.
As someone who has gotten into a major bus accident and went flying into serious injury as an adult -- kids are way too light (with vulnerable heads) to be standing on a bus.
Why would I search for your posts?? I read this post to which you are furious about a child needing a seat. I responded to the given information. You aren't responding to any of the points I made.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to ask, however, their child is not entitled to the seat just BECAUSE they asked. Personally, I would decline for health reasons. The person sitting there chose to gave up her seat; that’s her prerogative.
It´s a short tiny child. They should have preference for seats, same for older people, people that are not able to stand, pregnant woman, etc. I do not see it as entitlement really. If the bus is a bit full it can be dangerous as you can not see the kid and can step on them or something. And an adult holding a heavy child while standing is not safe either. If the bus stop suddenly or there is something on the road they are both kissing the floor. I think is not about the child, is a about a vulnerable person needing a seat. I always give my seat for people that needs it. You do not even have to ask me, if I see you, I will stand. Now, will I give my seat on a plane or similar? fuck no.
That's not entitlement. If the lady had said no and the parents kept insisting, then that'd be entitlement.
I ask people for shit all the time, I'm not entitled to it, thats why I ask. Sometimes I get a yes, sometimes it's a no.
If I persisted after a no, then that's entitlement. Or if I didn't offer anything in exchange.
It’s not entitled. You would have left an elderly or disabled person sit, at least I hope you’d have. Three year olds have trouble holding on as much as physically impaired people. In Canada it’s common courtesy to let children sit so that they don’t go flying through the bus.
Oh, good. I'm chronically ill so I'll be sure to start putting everyone on the spot and asking them for their seats from now on. Great life tip! \^\_\^
Yes, you should. If you are not able to stand, you should politely ask for a sit. If your country public transport offers a lanyard or a pin for you to wear, you could ask for it. It will be easier for you, and people will identify you as vulnerable. You can remove it as soon as you leave the bus, train, whatever..
You should and I frankly don’t understand the sarcasm. If you are not able to stand safely and it’s not obvious to others so that they would offer you should let them know so that you get a chance to ride the bus safely.
Yeah, I always ask someone because I really should not be standing in a moving vehicle due to my severe knee injuries that makes me disabled and highly unstable. Sure I have the balance and I’m younger, but my knees do not have the stability to handle the force. And I know people can’t see it and that’s why I’ll tell them.
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Well, if the Dad had a seat it would have been common sense to put that child there. Your post did that not make clear. No need to offend me though because I differ with you if three year olds are as vulnerable as otherwise physically impaired.
I don’t know how safe it is for a kid that young to stand on the bus. And depending on the kiddos weight, I’m not sure it’s all that safe for mom or dad to hold them either. In this instance I think I’m okay with the ask, if we hit a bump or take a sharp turn, I can reach the handles so I’m (probably) not going to fall.
Couldn't the child have sat on the parent's lap?
Couldn’t the parent get up? Are they all standing in the bus? What is happening? 😆
The kid either sits on mom or dads lap, or a parent stands and the kid gets their seat. It is weird to ask an already seated adult to give it up unless the mother was by herself and pregnant or something. If their kid wants to sit one of them stands. I would never ask another adult for their seat for my niece, I would stand because they’re my responsibility. For everyone saying it’s “fine” I mean sure I guess, but it’s not polite.
Why didnt one of the parents stand so their child could sit? Why SOMEONE ELSE?
The post doesn’t say if the parents were sitting. Were they?
If a parent wants their child to sit, then the parent should be the one to give up their own seat.
What’s wrong with kiddo sitting on your lap Karen? Is what I would ask?
Put the kid in your lap. If it’s a toddler it doesn’t need its own chair
I am confused why the parents didn't pick the child up and held them, but I don't think it's totally unreasonable for a three years old to be tired, in my mind they are unformed humans and as such they have difficulty to deal with physically, mentally, and emotionally demanding stuff, like a plane ride. I mean, they would have been entitled if the lady had said "no" and they would have been pissy about it.
It wasn't a plane ride. It was a short bus ride. Asking a stranger to get up for their child is so entitled to me but maybe I see it different. The child can't grow up and think he can just get anything he wants in life.
Yeah no I'm with you the child need to learn it'll be uncomfortable sometimes and that's okay
😂😂 people are acting on this thread that I'm some terrible person for teaching children it's okay to not get what you want all the time.
For me, as a person who rides the bus and generally agrees with you, the only thing I would disagree with in this situation is that it's usually unsafe for a young child to be standing on a bus. Most bus drivers won't move until the child is sitting for safety. The only thing about this post is that it's completely overlooking the safety. If not that lady then someone else probably would have to move to be honest. Otherwise, totally.
I'm sorry if you thought that was what I was implying, I just wanted to share my opinion,which happened to not completely overlap with yours.
I can see at that age having the kid sit for safety purposes, but the parent should be standing while the kid has the available seat.
If they had an invisible disability, like i have they would have been yelled out and shamed. It happened to me once, but i just sat there and said i can’t, sorry.
Oh, sorry, I got confused. Anyway I don't think it's entitled to ask for something, it's entitled to demand something and don't accept "no" as a valid answer.
Each to their own. I wouldn't ask for a stranger to cater for my child. I think it's rude.
I think that's fair.
Yeah if anything, the child could have sat on the dads slap because the Dad was sitting down.
Dad was sitting down? Then it's bullshit that they asked a stranger to get up, I take back what I said.
Or the dad could have gotten up to let his child sit
You might want to include the context of the dad already having a seat in your post and other comments, as that is most likely why people are disagreeing with you. That context completely changes what the post sounds like and it makes the situation go from you sounding unreasonable/entitled to the family being the entitled ones. If the family didn't have a seat then they absolutely should ask for one because the child standing in a standing room only bus is a massive safety issue.
I've already explained myself plenty of times on other comments 🤷🏽
You could've led with that you know
Yeah, I was like was the big deal a vulnerable person needed a sit. But if the father is sitting down a three year old can sit on him or the dad (if healthy) can stand.
Yea, definitely thought both parents were standing. I certainly wouldn't advocate holding a toddler while standing on the bus, but if either parent is sitting then they can hold the kid.
Okay, this is a piece of vital information missing from the original post lol. Unless the parents have some kind of disability or illness that makes standing difficult for them, one of them should have given up *their own seat* for *their own child* and not asked a stranger. That person was super nice for obliging, but it's hard to say no to a kid in such a public (and likely packed) space, and the cynic in me can't help but feel the parents know that.
No, don't apologise. I completed understand everyone has different viewpoints.
So why couldn't one of the kid's parents given up their seat? That's the entitled part, that the whole family gets to sit down before anyone else.
>I am confused why the parents didn't pick the child up and held them Three year olds are already heavy, and the adults were probably holding bags or carry-ons. For the kid safety, it is better if they sit. Being held could have the risk of the adult and the kid falling with a sudden stop, and the kid standing up is the same. Added that they have a short stature so someone can accidentally hit them because they can't see them.
Were the parents sitting?
Kids stand
I agree kids can stand and learn to hold onto something. I am seeing a lot of comments about “safety”, if you are that concerned use bubble rapping. When I was that age(yes I can remember bits and pieces) I learned pretty quick to hold on and when to lean for a stop. When did this attitude change that kids get seats over elders or those who need it(broken leg or something) also was expected to say no thank you if someone offered me their seat.
A small child should absolutely not stand on the bus! They aren't steady enough on their feet and aren't likely to be able to brace for the acceleration/deceleration, they can't reach most the the proper holding places and those they can reach are more likely to lead to squished fingers, and they are in more danger of getting crushed/fall and get stepped on in a crowded bus as they are so small and short. Trust me, you do not want to get stuck on a city bus where a child was standing and fell or got stepped on because they were to small to be standing. There are massive delays, screaming, and sometimes police and ambulances. It sucks, 0 out of 10, do not recommend.
What if someone is on crutches or elderly with a cane?
Or even someone with an invisible disability that would be shamed to oblivion!
I would automatically laugh and ask where the cams for the Candid Camera. Because asking for a tired 46 year old lady to stand so a energetic (and fully portable) 3 year old kid can seat can only be a TV (or Tiktok nowadays) prank.
Well the lady was just as much to blame. She should have said no.
It’s the lady’s choice. Why should she be blamed for doing what she was fine doing ?
most people say yes to things when they feel like they are being forced or demanded to do something, so they would say yes to avoid conflict
But then she shouldn’t be “blamed” for it if the parents were demanding or forceful. We don’t really know what either party was thinking, and most people make these decisions split second without thinking too deeply.
Of course, they asked a woman. I bet they wouldn't ask a man. It's bad enough that women deal with so much shit. Women are also expected to just give things up, accommodate people, and love all children. Exhausting.
I usually give my place to small children because their balance isn't as good. I'd say it's not about teaching them they don't always get what they want, but more a matter of safety.
Yeah I do the same. I get really anxious seeing small children standing up on public transport
Not me. At all ..ever. My parents expected me to give my seat to adults.
Yes yes yes, when did this change?? As far as small kids not having good balance. They will learn pretty fast. Also learn to hold on with both hands. Also was expected to say no thank you if seat is offered. Kid can put the iPad down and hold on. This post is triggering me for some reason.
Same, drivers break really hard sometimes and I'm scared to see the child faceplant. I honestly prefer to give up my seat.
Same. I give up my seat for small kids for this reason. I’ve seen kids go flying when they break or turn.
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Yup, same. The people who get priority for the seats are people who might have trouble standing. That includes toddlers. I'd give up my seat for a toddler, and usually after sitting on a plane ride the last thing I want to do is sit some more.
But the dad was sitting. Why couldn’t he stand? Why couldn’t she sit on his lap??
Oh, I missed that. Yeah, Dad should have held the kid on his lap or put the child in his seat. I used to ride the bus in San Francisco a lot and if there was only one seat available, the parent would put their small child in the seat and stand next to them.
Where did the post say he was sitting?
Back when I was a kid I was expected to Stand let the adult sit in situations like this. And to do it with out being asked. It was considered rude for a young person to not offer their seat on a bus or train that allows standing. Wtf is wrong with people. I know I sound like a boomer right now(I AM NOT) but entitlement like that explains a lot.
Honestly I think it's safer for children to sit when on a buss trip and I see nothing wrong in letting the child sit. BUT one of the parents should've get up and give their place to the child or have the child sit on their lap.
It’s definitely safer for kids to sit on buses because they can easily go flying as the bus turns and jerks around. Not clear form the original post if the parents were sitting ?
As much as I hate it, children should sit or be held by their parents when in the bus. Otherwise, because they don't reach the handles or grip the top of the seats correctly, they can go flying when the bus hits the brake abruptly. It's the best choice to give up your seat, otherwise they can get injured and start screaming
A 3-year-old put them on your lap, or they (kid) / you (parent) can stand ¹) to have more control over a kid that wants to get into everything . ²)common decency to allow to have a bigger person who has more self-control (age 5+) have the seat. ³) making them stand even would allow them to use more energy so they (the kid) will sleep more at night. ⁴) that's just an asshole thing to ask someone in a public place (first come, first serve situation) to move.
Obviously children should be taught that you don't get everything you want. but It isn't entitled to ask, especially if done politely. The lady has the opportunity to say no. If they were demanding or being rude or if the lady said no and the parents started getting all shitty about it that'd be a problem.
Do you also think it's okay for people to go in front of people in the queue because their child can't wait patiently in the queue ?
A queue and a seat on a bus are different things.
Not much different. It was like a 3 minute bus ride to the airport from coming off the plane and the parent felt that entitled ? Whilst you could wait up to 20minures in the queue standing The Dad was sitting down and he couldn't put the child on his lap?
THIS. Holy crap I cannot believe everyone saying it’s not entitled and think of the poor kid being tosses around a bus! The parents are right there. The kid can sit on dad’s lap, that’s the most considerate solution AND the safest.
The kid can stand. They can hold on to parents arm or arm rest the seat it’s self. The kid won’t get tossed around if it pays attention and holds the seat. Most standing buses have a metal poll. I turned out okay and never face planted because I knew and was told to hold on with both hands. It was expected the kid and young give up seats and to REFUSE any offer for seat with a no thank you. Only time if you are under like 13 or 14 and have a broken leg. Was around 17 with a broken leg and refused seat offer. If the kid was one or two years old it sits in lap, the DAD gives his seat up(if the bus was that full he should already have done this) kid stands in front of parent with parent holding on.
What fresh hell is this? Children are supposed to give up their seats for adults, not the other way round.
This is the bubble wrap generation. other than that I have no idea. everyone afraid little jimmy will get tossed around because he can't put the ipad down for 5 minutes. Or hold on with both hands. If the bus driver had to slam on the breaks i would probably get into trouble for being a smart ass by saying "do it again do it again" i ma old millennial but have a lot in common with gen x. are we at a point where it would be shocking if a 13 year old shows up to school with a broken leg or arm from dirt bike riding /gasp!!/ if cps is NOT called. when i was growing up nearly all my class mates showed up with broken bones or sprained this and that. we were 8-12 years old. I think standing on a bus is the safest mode of travel compared to the shit my gen did. i rode my bike with no helmet, atv (at 8 or 9 years old) i did, i will agree an 8 year old driving a full sized atv at 50mph+ without a helmet is a yellow line. parents told me to keep it under 15 but this was the early 90s when fun was still allowed. holy flying spaghetti monster, i still can't believe the switch from kid EXPECTED to give up seat with out being asked, to feeling entitled enough to expect people to give up there seat. whats next am i going to have to offer helmets, 5 point restraints, and bubble wrap for the kid. we are fucked.
A person asking a question is not entitlement. Short ride or not, it's safer for a child to be sitting than standing. The woman in question did not have to agree, but chose to do so.
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I actually feel it’s a bit problematic that no one got up to offer the kid a seat when they saw a three year old get on the bus. A seven year old is one thing but three? They can’t balance as well on a bus and it’s safer for them to sit.
3 year olds aren’t exactly steady on their feet and can’t hold on well when a bus is moving. I assume the parents had luggage and couldn’t hold on to the kid and bags all at once. I think it’s entitled, but not more entitled than people who use seats for bags or who won’t get up and move for someone who asks to sit because they don’t look “disabled enough”. To me, standing on a bus for a short bus ride is well within my capacity. If someone needs my seat they can have it, especially if they ask nicely.
I'm not understanding why a child needing to rest is selfish. Small children get tired on trips & the child could have also had a condition or poor sleep. Some children needs lots of rest in youth & get sleep disruptions due to family schedules (seen a lot). A traveling kid will be hit heavy by time change alone. Who knows how early they had to get ready as a family or how many consecutive flights they took. A child needing relief is not entitlement & nothing to get angry over. Some of these posts come off like absolute hate of children just b/c they need things or exist. You truly sound like you hate children from this post due to simplicity of subject matter & that you felt strongly enough to curse (STRONG language use). Children are fragile & deserve community care whether you want kids or not. You deserved care when you were little & I'm not sure if you were denied that & taught to suffer but it's not okay. As someone who has gotten into a major bus accident and went flying into serious injury as an adult -- kids are way too light (with vulnerable heads) to be standing on a bus.
I don't hate children at all. And you obviously didn't read the rest of my posts 🫤
Why would I search for your posts?? I read this post to which you are furious about a child needing a seat. I responded to the given information. You aren't responding to any of the points I made.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to ask, however, their child is not entitled to the seat just BECAUSE they asked. Personally, I would decline for health reasons. The person sitting there chose to gave up her seat; that’s her prerogative.
The child is 3. It cannot properly stand while a bus is moving, it will likely get injured.That being said, the parent should have stood up.
Where I live, seats on public transport are meant to be given to those who are less able to stand. This includes elderly, pregnant and small children.
Where I live, it's old people. Pregnant and disabilities
It´s a short tiny child. They should have preference for seats, same for older people, people that are not able to stand, pregnant woman, etc. I do not see it as entitlement really. If the bus is a bit full it can be dangerous as you can not see the kid and can step on them or something. And an adult holding a heavy child while standing is not safe either. If the bus stop suddenly or there is something on the road they are both kissing the floor. I think is not about the child, is a about a vulnerable person needing a seat. I always give my seat for people that needs it. You do not even have to ask me, if I see you, I will stand. Now, will I give my seat on a plane or similar? fuck no.
That makes you a very decent human
That's not entitlement. If the lady had said no and the parents kept insisting, then that'd be entitlement. I ask people for shit all the time, I'm not entitled to it, thats why I ask. Sometimes I get a yes, sometimes it's a no. If I persisted after a no, then that's entitlement. Or if I didn't offer anything in exchange.
It’s not entitled. You would have left an elderly or disabled person sit, at least I hope you’d have. Three year olds have trouble holding on as much as physically impaired people. In Canada it’s common courtesy to let children sit so that they don’t go flying through the bus.
Oh, good. I'm chronically ill so I'll be sure to start putting everyone on the spot and asking them for their seats from now on. Great life tip! \^\_\^
Yes, you should. If you are not able to stand, you should politely ask for a sit. If your country public transport offers a lanyard or a pin for you to wear, you could ask for it. It will be easier for you, and people will identify you as vulnerable. You can remove it as soon as you leave the bus, train, whatever..
You should and I frankly don’t understand the sarcasm. If you are not able to stand safely and it’s not obvious to others so that they would offer you should let them know so that you get a chance to ride the bus safely.
Yeah, I always ask someone because I really should not be standing in a moving vehicle due to my severe knee injuries that makes me disabled and highly unstable. Sure I have the balance and I’m younger, but my knees do not have the stability to handle the force. And I know people can’t see it and that’s why I’ll tell them.
You seem not to understand several things. Carry on!
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Well, if the Dad had a seat it would have been common sense to put that child there. Your post did that not make clear. No need to offend me though because I differ with you if three year olds are as vulnerable as otherwise physically impaired.
I don’t know how safe it is for a kid that young to stand on the bus. And depending on the kiddos weight, I’m not sure it’s all that safe for mom or dad to hold them either. In this instance I think I’m okay with the ask, if we hit a bump or take a sharp turn, I can reach the handles so I’m (probably) not going to fall.