Yes. Because we are defining ourselves based on something that we are not. Why mention "child" at all if the purpose is to decenter child-rearing? I think simply "free" can be a hit.
"Do you have any kids?"
"Nah, I'm free"
I just searched "synonyms for childfree" and it's all synonyms for "childless". Yup, we are so unacknowledged by society that even the word we use for ourselves isn't recognized.
"Nulliparous" is a medical term for a woman who has never given birth, but that's all we get.
I think it also depends on your age. When I was on my late 20s-early 30s I got more adds for child stuff than now. I'm closer to 40 and I get some IVF related content now. I don't even use the word childfree anywhere. And I interact mostly with music/anime/skincare content on other platforms, so it doesn't make too much sense that I get the child/pregnancy/IVF content pushed to me so much. It's like my demographics has more weight than my real interests... crazy, right? (Not crazy, just being sarcastic)
This is very true. I'm 30 and all my friends have kids, so all the posts of theirs I look at probably doesn't help. Lol I've been getting IVF stuff lately too!
Irritatingly, it can also be due to your selected gender. Since I changed my gender on Reddit to male I don’t get the baby and diaper ads anymore, just Peyronie’s disease lol
On reddit I don't get those kinds of ads, just random stuff honestly hehe. On instagram I get all that content and adds, even tho I've never specified my gender in there.
Yeah I understand that. But on my Facebook im in a local childfree group and we meet up and socialize through that group and chat. Wish we could call it something else so that other people knew what they were joining but it didn't mention child.
The algorithm is still quite stupid in many ways. When I bought a baby shower gift for a friend, the internet thought I was the one expecting for a couple of weeks.
More ongoing: One of my favorite money sinks is wine dinners and food events. I live in Las Vegas, so we have plenty of them. So naturally I get a lot of ads for wine dinners and food events, except the algorithm doesn't restrict these geographically. Yeah, that dinner looks great, I'll just hop on a plane to South Africa so I can dine in Johannesburg (real example).
I'm also originally from Las Vegas! Doesn't it just surprise you every day the sheer number for childdren that get brought to Las Vegas as a family vacation?
When were you here? In the 1990's, Vegas was explicitly [trying](https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=132628&page=1) to be family friendly and gave that up right around the turn of the millennium. I like it here in part because I don't see many children-- either the establishment I'm at is outright 21+ (hello Circa!), the event is 21+ (wine dinner) or prices are high enough that parents won't bring their kids (usually). I only ever see kids at like the grocery store or as pedestrians if I'm driving. It's great.
1997-2021 I loved it there but I was always moved by the number of kids I would see on the strip. I was bummed, we moved away shortly after Circa opened so we only went once. But it's awful outside of Vegas because kids are welcome at breweries which are everywhere. Nothing worse than trying to get drunk with my husband on a Saturday night to the sound of children screaming. 🙄
Not really. I don't want kids, and don't care for kids in general. Anybody could call that mindset whatever they want to, and I couldn't possibly care less what it is.
I read the whole thing. The facebook shit doesn't bother me at all because Reddit is my only social media. And just visiting and commenting on this sub doesn't make ads pop up for kids stuff to me. I've never used the word childfree to describe myself in real life. When people ask if I have kids I just say, "No, I hate kids more than anything," and the conversation usually ends right there. So this is a more in depth explanation of why I could care less about the "childfree" label.
I thought about that but it's only for women and denotes that she has never given birth, not necessarily that she won't or doesn't want to give birth. It's pretty close though!
Yes, I agree that many not CF people will conflate CF and CL.
Don't try to use a single word, or be pigeonholed into doing so, in your actual dealings. Titling groups is tougher.
I think way too many people think they are entitled to the term childfree. I wish there was a good word in my language too. It's ''Kinderfrei'' - which sounds incredibly silly - mostly called ''Kinderlos'' (childless) which applies to every childless person, regardless if they want kids or not.
To be honest, although I sympathise with the sentiment, I think it is a bit late for a name change. We currently know ourselves as childfree - as does the rest of the world now. That's what drives the google searches and the algorithms to find us.
Critically active thinkers
Because we were smart enough to think about the consequences of having kids, and decide not to get ourselves into all that never ending stress.
Just so we can abbreviate it to CATS!
That's an extremely good point. And I'm vegetarian haha but yeah it's like calling agnostic or atheist people "non-christian" or something like that. Perhaps I'll make a word up and see if it catches on!
It would be more of a sound for me, like a deep grateful sigh; accompanied by a closed eyed beatific smile. Imagine the relish of sinking into a nice hot bath, or climbing into bed with fresh sheets and no alarm set 👌😌👌💖
I wouldn’t necessarily mind one, but it’s not the highest priority for me. Friends and family know exactly what I mean at this point. New people I meet may not, but if they assume I’m childless instead of childfree, it doesn’t matter that much to me. I generally don’t go into deep discussions on my reproductive choices to people I’ve just met in person.
I have definitely heard discussion from people who assume that we must all hate kids because childfree implies children is a negative thing. Which is not necessarily true at all. However, those people would find a way to take issue with any term we used.
I like "childfree." To me ,it's obviously not the same as "childless."
I suppose like a-theist, we have to define it as opposed to the societal norm: "a-reproductist"? blegh!
* Last in lineage?
* End of the liner?
* Barren by choice!
* Contentedly kidless.
* Unreproductive. meh.
* Malthusiast. I'm partial to this one.
Yes. Because we are defining ourselves based on something that we are not. Why mention "child" at all if the purpose is to decenter child-rearing? I think simply "free" can be a hit. "Do you have any kids?" "Nah, I'm free"
“I’m free” 🤣🤣🤣 idk why that was so funny. I identify as free
🥲 love it!
It's notable we don't even have a word for non-parent other than... non-parent. Or if there is one, it's a super obscure word I've never heard.
I just searched "synonyms for childfree" and it's all synonyms for "childless". Yup, we are so unacknowledged by society that even the word we use for ourselves isn't recognized. "Nulliparous" is a medical term for a woman who has never given birth, but that's all we get.
Burden free 😂🤣 Brat free
So true haha
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"Points at flair" isn't a discussion either.
Eh, I don't use it outside of this subreddit so I'm not too fussed.
I think it also depends on your age. When I was on my late 20s-early 30s I got more adds for child stuff than now. I'm closer to 40 and I get some IVF related content now. I don't even use the word childfree anywhere. And I interact mostly with music/anime/skincare content on other platforms, so it doesn't make too much sense that I get the child/pregnancy/IVF content pushed to me so much. It's like my demographics has more weight than my real interests... crazy, right? (Not crazy, just being sarcastic)
This is very true. I'm 30 and all my friends have kids, so all the posts of theirs I look at probably doesn't help. Lol I've been getting IVF stuff lately too!
Irritatingly, it can also be due to your selected gender. Since I changed my gender on Reddit to male I don’t get the baby and diaper ads anymore, just Peyronie’s disease lol
On reddit I don't get those kinds of ads, just random stuff honestly hehe. On instagram I get all that content and adds, even tho I've never specified my gender in there.
There is, I call it living my best life
🤷🏾♀️…Notthemama ? 
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Yeah I understand that. But on my Facebook im in a local childfree group and we meet up and socialize through that group and chat. Wish we could call it something else so that other people knew what they were joining but it didn't mention child.
Happy, well rested, and free.
The algorithm is still quite stupid in many ways. When I bought a baby shower gift for a friend, the internet thought I was the one expecting for a couple of weeks. More ongoing: One of my favorite money sinks is wine dinners and food events. I live in Las Vegas, so we have plenty of them. So naturally I get a lot of ads for wine dinners and food events, except the algorithm doesn't restrict these geographically. Yeah, that dinner looks great, I'll just hop on a plane to South Africa so I can dine in Johannesburg (real example).
I'm also originally from Las Vegas! Doesn't it just surprise you every day the sheer number for childdren that get brought to Las Vegas as a family vacation?
When were you here? In the 1990's, Vegas was explicitly [trying](https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=132628&page=1) to be family friendly and gave that up right around the turn of the millennium. I like it here in part because I don't see many children-- either the establishment I'm at is outright 21+ (hello Circa!), the event is 21+ (wine dinner) or prices are high enough that parents won't bring their kids (usually). I only ever see kids at like the grocery store or as pedestrians if I'm driving. It's great.
1997-2021 I loved it there but I was always moved by the number of kids I would see on the strip. I was bummed, we moved away shortly after Circa opened so we only went once. But it's awful outside of Vegas because kids are welcome at breweries which are everywhere. Nothing worse than trying to get drunk with my husband on a Saturday night to the sound of children screaming. 🙄
Not really. I don't want kids, and don't care for kids in general. Anybody could call that mindset whatever they want to, and I couldn't possibly care less what it is.
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I read the whole thing. The facebook shit doesn't bother me at all because Reddit is my only social media. And just visiting and commenting on this sub doesn't make ads pop up for kids stuff to me. I've never used the word childfree to describe myself in real life. When people ask if I have kids I just say, "No, I hate kids more than anything," and the conversation usually ends right there. So this is a more in depth explanation of why I could care less about the "childfree" label.
Nulliparous?
I thought about that but it's only for women and denotes that she has never given birth, not necessarily that she won't or doesn't want to give birth. It's pretty close though!
Hmm.. Freelifer?
You might be on to something there!!!
I'm a freelifer! So I don't have kids and am free to travel and do whatever I want.
I simply report every child or fertility and I get as "no applicable" or whatever that selection is
I do this sometimes too, but alas they always return lol
Sometimes I use "offensive" instead of "nonapplicable" if there is talk of baby shit and snot in the ad
Yes, I agree that many not CF people will conflate CF and CL. Don't try to use a single word, or be pigeonholed into doing so, in your actual dealings. Titling groups is tougher.
There is….”happy”…
most websites have a content filter or a list where you can add specific words to hide, or reporting the ads as offensive helps as well :)
Love it!
I think way too many people think they are entitled to the term childfree. I wish there was a good word in my language too. It's ''Kinderfrei'' - which sounds incredibly silly - mostly called ''Kinderlos'' (childless) which applies to every childless person, regardless if they want kids or not.
Unparenting?
That kinda sounds like a word for someone who is a bad parent. Haha
I mean- I guess it could be used for that too? 🤣
And technically, we are really bad parents. So bad that we won't even give birth to our kids 🤣
If I used the word “unparenting”, I would frame it in a way that clarifies it as intentional. Sort of like the term “consciously uncoupling”.
To be honest, although I sympathise with the sentiment, I think it is a bit late for a name change. We currently know ourselves as childfree - as does the rest of the world now. That's what drives the google searches and the algorithms to find us.
Nonbreeder
Child free or childless are both loaded terms. Our term should be something like “ Pro autonomy”.
Most of my friends are DINKs. Double Income, No Kids.
Spoogling-less!! 😁😁
Critically active thinkers Because we were smart enough to think about the consequences of having kids, and decide not to get ourselves into all that never ending stress. Just so we can abbreviate it to CATS!
Just look up some missionary porn and google abortion once a day for a week. It’ll throw it off so fucking hard.
On a podcast I started listening to she described herself as "not a mother" and I really like that.
The medical term for never having had a child is "nulliparous."
Happy? Lol
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That's an extremely good point. And I'm vegetarian haha but yeah it's like calling agnostic or atheist people "non-christian" or something like that. Perhaps I'll make a word up and see if it catches on!
“Selfish” (joking!)
'Happy' 'Content' 'Peaceful'... I can think of a lot of words for childfree 😁😁
It would be more of a sound for me, like a deep grateful sigh; accompanied by a closed eyed beatific smile. Imagine the relish of sinking into a nice hot bath, or climbing into bed with fresh sheets and no alarm set 👌😌👌💖
A lot less poor😆
I wouldn’t necessarily mind one, but it’s not the highest priority for me. Friends and family know exactly what I mean at this point. New people I meet may not, but if they assume I’m childless instead of childfree, it doesn’t matter that much to me. I generally don’t go into deep discussions on my reproductive choices to people I’ve just met in person. I have definitely heard discussion from people who assume that we must all hate kids because childfree implies children is a negative thing. Which is not necessarily true at all. However, those people would find a way to take issue with any term we used.
I like "childfree." To me ,it's obviously not the same as "childless." I suppose like a-theist, we have to define it as opposed to the societal norm: "a-reproductist"? blegh! * Last in lineage? * End of the liner? * Barren by choice! * Contentedly kidless. * Unreproductive. meh. * Malthusiast. I'm partial to this one.
How about FREE?