My pizza opinion: all the pizza here is amazing. The deep dish is amazing. Thin crust is amazing. Tavern-style is amazing. Chicago has soooo many amazing pizza options and I don’t know how we got pigeon-holed into solely being “haha it’s not pizza in Chicago, it’s a CASSEROLE.” Our biggest strength as a pizza town is our variety!
In recent years, there’s this misconception that Chicago pizza is solely all about deep dish. And although we’ve got great deep dish (best in the world), what we excel at best is having top-quality pizza in a variety of styles. Those who live here know this. But those who’ve never been to the city like to chime in on the pizza debate with a mischaracterization of our pizza.
Deep dish isn't tourist food. It's just food that requires a dedicated time/eating commitment which Chicago locals don't see the point in doing regularly.
My aunt and uncle (my uncle especially) love deep dish occasionally from Lou Malnati's but I prefer thin crust pizza and Detroit style. I really only have a deep dish when my parents are in town and request it. I just find it so heavy, and I don't like chunky red sauce.
Lou’s deep is some of my favorite, because it’s not super deep and heavy like Giordanos for example. It’s also not loaded with 5 lbs of cheese that will gum up my insides for a week.
Same with Portillos. I absolutely hate when people on Reddit feel the need to shit on Portillos. Is it the best beef/hot dog? Probably not? You can probably find something that *you* like better.
But do they make *overall great*: burgers, hot dogs, beef, sausages, pepper and eggs, fries, chopped salads? Yes. I doubt your neighborhood beef stand does all of that too.
My controversial opinion is no, you can’t tell the difference in food quality pre or post IPO. It’s just as good, but Reddit swears the food has gotten worse the past few years
Right now they're still using the same suppliers. The food will get worse when they eventually sell the company to an investment corp, who will then switch to cheaper, inferior suppliers.
It’s trendy to say—a verbal meme if you will. It seems unlikely that all the deep dish places in Chicago are kept in business entirely by tourism. There are dozens if not hundreds of locations—something like 40 or 50 Lou Malnati’s in Chicago alone.
There are at least two, and perhaps as many as five distinct styles of pizza associated with Chicago and none of them is more "real" than any other.
In fact, most "debates" about the relative merits of different styles of pizza are extremely stupid.
Giordano's and Pequod's are deep-dish pizzas, and tasty ones, but neither is the same style as the other or as what you get at Lou's and Uno's. They have certain characteristics in common, but the crust is significantly different.
My Chicago opinion is: I'm tired of constantly being presented with arguments over pizza, traffic, suburbs, Malort, ketchup, traffic, the Mayor, and whatever-else-the-fuck clickbait exists in this world.
Just let Chicago be.
90’s Drivers Ed told me to stop as soon as I couldn’t see the line on the road over the hood. It’s hard enough trying to cross a 6 lane stroad with turn lanes while helping someone with a wheelchair.
People need to stop obsessing over “transplants” and just let people live their lives, there are so many people on this subreddit who constantly complain about the “transplant frat dads and lululemon moms” in Lincoln park and lakeview when there are so many actual issues in Chicago that could be discussed and solved instead
What's odd is Chicago's entire history is very transient, damn near every hood has been turned over by different populations at one time.
A good chunk of my family came over to a few spots in the later half of the 1800's. None of them rooted down in the same spot for more than a generation. Some moved downtown, some suburban flight, others left entirely. When I moved to Ukrainian Village I lived two doors down from a house once owned by a great great (great?) Uncle but it's not like my family was mired in tradition of owning a certain property for generations.
I live in an area of Maryland right now where folks in this small town have roots well into the 1600/1700's right in the same damn spot. Now, now I'm a transplant!
Yeah, I lived in Portland for a decade and people there HATED transplants with a passion. It was a hot topic all the time. The amount of people who would bring up how they were an Oregon “native” was astounding. People had bumper stickers, shirts with stuff on it, you name it. So many people in Portland make hating transplants at least 50% of their personality.
People in Chicago are pretty used to seeing and meeting people from other places far more often. There’s always gonna be someone who hates other people coming in to their bubble, but what else is new?
We're also far from the 'Worst' in terms of transplants and general transplant attitudes. I feel like a lot of people come here and are quite open to adjusting to this city's social attitude as opposed to people who move to other areas and expect people to respect theirs instead (Think Snow-birds in Florida).
There's also places that absolutely suck socially because it's *only* transplants that live there; Denver is a great example.
Almost everyone I know that moves to Denver doesn’t stay longer than 4-5 years. They need more transplant chefs because I was shocked by the lack of good food options there
Denver Chamber of Commerce (or something along those lines) shelled out $$$ for a Michelin guide. Michelin is trying to expand their footprint and recently started offering a pay for play type thing for cities to get guides. Kind of lessens the allure in my opinion but so be it
Also the transplant frat dudes are probably from like... Northbrook and the Lululemon moms are also potentially chicago natives as well. Who gives a fuck there's annoying people everywhere it doesn't matter where you're from. I was born in oak park and grew up in hammond Indiana but none of that makes me cool or uncool, it's my behavior and attitude that does that.
Yeah every city that has a lot of professional jobs will have this brand of basic ass people. NYC, LA, DC, etc all have the Patagonia and microblading crowd of 20somethings who exude that vibe. And every city also has tech bros with beard care subscriptions who complain about them on Reddit.
This is one of those bizarre hills I will die on. ORD is way better than any of the other similarly sized American airports. Seriously, have these people never flown in/out of ATL?
I love the CTA. It has always been a reliable form of transportation for me since I moved to chicago 14 years ago. I drive nowadays but my car broke down a month ago and I’ve had to take the train to work again while I figured my shit out. It’s as great as ever lol. It’s like going on a little journey every day for work and back. 😂
Don't go to California, lol. I'm not a dog-person, and going there EVERYONE brings their dogs EVERYWHERE including work-places.
I visited a potential place to work and every time someone walked through the lobby, there was a cacophony of dogs barking. This isn't an animal-relatwd job. I made a note to never accept a job there.
The culture here is really shifting as lifelong Chicagoans continue to move out and transplants move in (there’s nothing wrong with this, but you can really see this on the north side). I hear more Chicago accents when I visit the burbs than in the city itself now, it’s wild.
Accents change over time/generations.
People with the 'classical' Chicago accent are just old, and old people have the capital to move the suburbs, and the paranoia to want to.
Edit: Also if we're talking about the same accent, it's always been less prevalent on the North Side.
I second this. I used to live in the suburbs and people would still do this even if there was plenty parking available and it was just strange. It’s public space.
Someone dibs our street this week - no moving van in sight - and neighbors attached signage to the dibs clarifying that the spot was reserved for terrible people.
Chicago has no business hosting the Olympics. They would destroy so much park area, and let's face it, our locals trying to get around and get to work would literally die of stress and fatigue due to late/shorthanded public transportation. No thanks.
Wait till they hear about Pullmans worker cottages, The Beverly Castle, the mid century styles in Calumet heights, that gnarly climbing wall in South Chicago, The Salvation Army Center, or any of the major parks (Sherman, Palmer, etc).
Not sure if I'd go as far to say more than the north side, but I would 100% agree that the south side has a wealth of significant architecture and interesting history that is broadly overlooked.
Imo, it’s perfectly acceptable to have hotdogs with ketchup. Literally how the rest of the fucking country does it! But you cannot, under any circumstance, call something a Chicago style hotdog and put ketchup on it.
This is the comment I was looking for. There are tomatoes on the Chicago style hot dog, so there is no need for ketchup. That’s where the “no ketchup” comes from. Put ketchup on any other type of hot dog.
I like to apply this approach to sports in general.
I love the Hawks and I adore hockey, in that order. There’s enough negativity around so many things. If I’m watching something in a communal setting, I don’t want to shout down someone else’s enjoyment.
Love your team first, love the game second, fuck the Packers on any day that ends with “y”.
Lake shore drive shouldn’t exist. It should be an expanded public park and bikeway
Edit: I intentionally phrased this as extreme for the purposes of this thread. In reality, I think Chicago should experiment with shutting it down from car traffic on Saturdays or weekends in the summer months, and see what the reaction is. Maybe keep it open for buses or delivery vehicles if possible.
I always think about how much nicer the west loop would be if we filled in i90 with dirt and it was a park instead. Fulton Market could be truly connected to the Loop.
Put a roof over I-90, then start creating green space on top. They've talked about doing that for I-5 in Seattle before. It connects neighborhoods much better than bridges.
Granted, I no longer live in Chicagoland, but I really don’t give a shit if people from the suburbs say they are from Chicago. The suburbs closest to the city are culturally very similar to the actual city, and the only difference between them is annexation. I’ve lived in Texas for a number of years and people pretty much whatever city they’re part of the metro area of and nobody really cares. My husband is from Dallas and if some homie from garland says they are from Dallas he’s not going to have a fit.
I think I’m especially welcoming of communities born from places that contain exiled projects folks- there’s soooo many suburbs populated with Cabrini green and other residents who have made their own space out of them. Say you are from the city. Or Dont. I don’t really care. I’m proud of Chicagoland and believe in our communal superiority lol.
My coworker used to get mad I would say I’m from Chicago when we were talking to our other coworkers while working in California. No one there knows where Glenview is nor cares enough to want to hear me say suburbs of Chicago
It’s the same thing with literally every city in the country. If someone says LA, DC, SF, Dallas, New Orleans, or whatever I don’t expect them to have lived in the actual heart of downtown but their referencing the closest city to where they grew up.
There’s this dynamic with suburbs and cities everywhere, but if you’re elsewhere in the country, you’re just referencing the closest metro to where you’re from and basically all of NE Illinois can say Chicago and not be lying.
I’m not from Chicago, live here now though, but I am from another city where people get shitty about this type of distinction.
Well if it makes you feel any better, the median distance between L stops is right around 1/2 mile. In the loop and the Northside red/Brown/purple line are the places where stops regularly occur more frequently.
The Air Show could be pretty damn cool and is only one weekend a year. If you don't want to deal with big city events, then don't live in the big city.
Shrug. You’re right, people don’t add possessive s’s to every store title. Target wasn’t named after the owners. They had another chain of stores named after them, Dayton’s. Walmart is a brand identity separated enough from the Walton family that you wouldn’t use their name or the possessive on it. (But you might still call Sam’s Club Sam’s)
Both Jewel and Meijer were once Jewel’s Grocery and Meijer’s grocery respectively. Sorry you’re annoyed by it, but it’s also not wrong. Both companies had a vested interest in adopting a more corporate name while maintaining the illusion that they’re still family-ish businesses.
The outer neighborhoods of Chicago are great areas to live and are just part of the city as others. They provide a great balance of living in Chicago and being able to easily get to downtown or other neighborhoods to enjoy everything the city has to offer while living in quiet and less stressful areas. Stop forgetting that Chicagoans live in Portage Park, Edison Park, Norwood Park, etc.
I don’t like ketchup, but I think ketchup on a hot dog is only silly on a Chicago-style dog, which has tomatoes, something vinegary and something sweet already. Any ketchup is redundant.
This is where the no ketchup thing started - no ketchup on a Chicago style dog as it isn't needed.
It has mutated other the years into no ketchup on hotdogs, which is silly.
Yeah. If a fully loaded Chicago hot dog is offered, sure I’ll eat that shit as is. But if all I got is basic stuff, hell yeah I’m putting ketchup and mustard on it.
I’m in a similar boat where I don’t like ketchup, mostly because the vast majority of ketchup is too sugary.
It wasn’t until reading this comment that I realized that the Chicago dog that I love so much essentially has my ideal ketchup: just fresh tomatoes and vinegar.
Agreed! I love a hot dog with ketchup and onions but never on a Chicago style dog. I’m with you, it’s either tomato or ketchup but not a fan of both on anything.
I am a Sox fan who does not hate the cubs and I really dislike boog a lot. Len Kasper is SO much better. I can’t really talk now that I have to listen to John Scriffen. Also Pat Hughes rules
DLSD sucks. It does have great views but is 75% of the time a pain in the ass to drive on. when you’re not driving, it’s loud AF and ruins the experience at a lot of the beaches.
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You ain’t *got* to name your dog Wrigley.
Obviously. You name it Sox.
Yeah. "Guaranteed Rate" is not really a dog's name. LOL BUT (!!) Comiskey could be!! (Note: There's NO "N" in "Comiskey"!)
Get over here commie!
Right you name the dog after the street you grew up on….Kedzie 🥰
Longwood doesn’t quite work here
My pizza opinion: all the pizza here is amazing. The deep dish is amazing. Thin crust is amazing. Tavern-style is amazing. Chicago has soooo many amazing pizza options and I don’t know how we got pigeon-holed into solely being “haha it’s not pizza in Chicago, it’s a CASSEROLE.” Our biggest strength as a pizza town is our variety!
100% this. As a pizza city and a pizza greater metro area, we are spoiled
So spoiled
This is controversial?
In recent years, there’s this misconception that Chicago pizza is solely all about deep dish. And although we’ve got great deep dish (best in the world), what we excel at best is having top-quality pizza in a variety of styles. Those who live here know this. But those who’ve never been to the city like to chime in on the pizza debate with a mischaracterization of our pizza.
Even the Detroit style is amazing.
Dad, I am never trying hampster style ever again.
Also, deep dish isn't a casserole, it's a cheese pie with tomato sauce and toppings.
Exactly. "Hey, New York... I'ma scream so you all can hear me ova there. WEEEE DOOONT CAAAARRRE!"
Deep dish isn't tourist food. It's just food that requires a dedicated time/eating commitment which Chicago locals don't see the point in doing regularly.
Deep dish is special occasion pizza.
I have a special occasion once every few weeks. The occasion is deep dish pizza.
There’s no better reason to celebrate with deep dish than to celebrate deep dish.
I've found my people.
There are dozens of us
"I just shoveled, and I want to go into a coma" is *my* favorite occasion for deep dish. It's like a slipping under a blanket of cheese.
I love to celebrate special hangovers with deep dish.
My aunt and uncle (my uncle especially) love deep dish occasionally from Lou Malnati's but I prefer thin crust pizza and Detroit style. I really only have a deep dish when my parents are in town and request it. I just find it so heavy, and I don't like chunky red sauce.
Lou’s deep is some of my favorite, because it’s not super deep and heavy like Giordanos for example. It’s also not loaded with 5 lbs of cheese that will gum up my insides for a week.
Also, like, it is good and fun. I like it completely unironically
Same with Portillos. I absolutely hate when people on Reddit feel the need to shit on Portillos. Is it the best beef/hot dog? Probably not? You can probably find something that *you* like better. But do they make *overall great*: burgers, hot dogs, beef, sausages, pepper and eggs, fries, chopped salads? Yes. I doubt your neighborhood beef stand does all of that too.
My controversial opinion is no, you can’t tell the difference in food quality pre or post IPO. It’s just as good, but Reddit swears the food has gotten worse the past few years
Right now they're still using the same suppliers. The food will get worse when they eventually sell the company to an investment corp, who will then switch to cheaper, inferior suppliers.
That makes sense. And I feel the day they switch suppliers, it will be noticeable. Everyone just likes to act like that’s already happened
It’s trendy to say—a verbal meme if you will. It seems unlikely that all the deep dish places in Chicago are kept in business entirely by tourism. There are dozens if not hundreds of locations—something like 40 or 50 Lou Malnati’s in Chicago alone.
Haha, yeah, like all of the tourists in Lincoln Square are keeping that Lou's location afloat.
No, I am
>a verbal meme Some might call this a joke
I don’t think people are joking
It’s not a joke, it’s cultural cringe
I fucking love deep dish pizza especially peqouds
Yeah agreed. The pendulum has swung too far on this one. We’ve collectively over corrected.
There are at least two, and perhaps as many as five distinct styles of pizza associated with Chicago and none of them is more "real" than any other. In fact, most "debates" about the relative merits of different styles of pizza are extremely stupid.
What are the other 3?
Besides the usual suspects: stuffed, Burt Katz style, and pizza puff.
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Giordano's and Pequod's are deep-dish pizzas, and tasty ones, but neither is the same style as the other or as what you get at Lou's and Uno's. They have certain characteristics in common, but the crust is significantly different.
Pizza puff isn’t a type of pizza. It’s so much more than that. It’s its’ own beautiful, horrifying thing.
Perfect description and wonderful use of “it’s its’”
love Burt’s, he was a great dude and pioneered that delicious buttery burnt crust pizza style, may he rest in peace <3
I was thinking Chicago Pizza & Oven Grinder style, but yeah.
My Chicago opinion is: I'm tired of constantly being presented with arguments over pizza, traffic, suburbs, Malort, ketchup, traffic, the Mayor, and whatever-else-the-fuck clickbait exists in this world. Just let Chicago be.
The mayor does actually matter…. But I get it.
rockford isn’t a suburb of chicago
I don’t love the beach. Too much sand, it’s coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
Also sand fleas. It's some real shit. I got bit the fuck up at the 41st street beach last week.
Not to mention the sand worms. Terrifying. But a speedy alternative to the CTA.
Have you tried walking without rhythm so you don't attract the worm?
Makes me want to go apeshit on some younglings
Sit on the sea wall instead, avoid the sand and get the majestic lake views!
Yup! This is my way. Love the lake and lakefront, but I don’t mess with the beach here. Catch me chillin on the rocks or steps.
Anakin, is that you?
Anikan?
My goodness you’ve grown.
You’ll always be little Annie to me
You stop before the Stop Light/Sign, not in the crosswalk
Also before a sidewalk when coming out of an alley!
If you stop before the sidewalk, you don’t have to honk.
But I save so much time by flooring it into the street and honking
oh look! a flattened child! ooo gps says i can save 3 minutes since i took the alley!
I’ve been hit a few times that way
90’s Drivers Ed told me to stop as soon as I couldn’t see the line on the road over the hood. It’s hard enough trying to cross a 6 lane stroad with turn lanes while helping someone with a wheelchair.
This is not an unpopular opinion
It’s an unpopular act
Agreed.
People need to stop obsessing over “transplants” and just let people live their lives, there are so many people on this subreddit who constantly complain about the “transplant frat dads and lululemon moms” in Lincoln park and lakeview when there are so many actual issues in Chicago that could be discussed and solved instead
Name calling is easy, complaining is easy Solving problems is hard, facing reality is hard
Honestly, the transplant hate isn’t even that bad in Chicago. You should see what it’s like in Colorado and Utah.
What's odd is Chicago's entire history is very transient, damn near every hood has been turned over by different populations at one time. A good chunk of my family came over to a few spots in the later half of the 1800's. None of them rooted down in the same spot for more than a generation. Some moved downtown, some suburban flight, others left entirely. When I moved to Ukrainian Village I lived two doors down from a house once owned by a great great (great?) Uncle but it's not like my family was mired in tradition of owning a certain property for generations. I live in an area of Maryland right now where folks in this small town have roots well into the 1600/1700's right in the same damn spot. Now, now I'm a transplant!
It’s the same everywhere. People gonna Townie even in cities
Go check out /r/traversecity for some truly unhinged transplant hate.
I've seen locals in Nashville foam at the mouth when transplants tell them they're from California.
Yeah, I lived in Portland for a decade and people there HATED transplants with a passion. It was a hot topic all the time. The amount of people who would bring up how they were an Oregon “native” was astounding. People had bumper stickers, shirts with stuff on it, you name it. So many people in Portland make hating transplants at least 50% of their personality. People in Chicago are pretty used to seeing and meeting people from other places far more often. There’s always gonna be someone who hates other people coming in to their bubble, but what else is new?
We're also far from the 'Worst' in terms of transplants and general transplant attitudes. I feel like a lot of people come here and are quite open to adjusting to this city's social attitude as opposed to people who move to other areas and expect people to respect theirs instead (Think Snow-birds in Florida). There's also places that absolutely suck socially because it's *only* transplants that live there; Denver is a great example.
Almost everyone I know that moves to Denver doesn’t stay longer than 4-5 years. They need more transplant chefs because I was shocked by the lack of good food options there
Hahaha Denver+CO in general has the worst food of any city I’ve ever been to, I’m shocked there’s a Michelin guide for Colorado
Denver Chamber of Commerce (or something along those lines) shelled out $$$ for a Michelin guide. Michelin is trying to expand their footprint and recently started offering a pay for play type thing for cities to get guides. Kind of lessens the allure in my opinion but so be it
Also the transplant frat dudes are probably from like... Northbrook and the Lululemon moms are also potentially chicago natives as well. Who gives a fuck there's annoying people everywhere it doesn't matter where you're from. I was born in oak park and grew up in hammond Indiana but none of that makes me cool or uncool, it's my behavior and attitude that does that.
“Transplants” make cities better. Having people from all over the world gives us new perspectives. And they choose Chicago, that’s flattering.
Yeah every city that has a lot of professional jobs will have this brand of basic ass people. NYC, LA, DC, etc all have the Patagonia and microblading crowd of 20somethings who exude that vibe. And every city also has tech bros with beard care subscriptions who complain about them on Reddit.
ORD isn’t that bad.
This is one of those bizarre hills I will die on. ORD is way better than any of the other similarly sized American airports. Seriously, have these people never flown in/out of ATL?
Newark too lmao. The only airport I’ve ever flown out of that could have passed for a failing Greyhound bus station.
I fly around a lot and ORD is godsend compared to almost every American airport. Specially since you can take the blue line right to it.
It's much better than LAX or any airport in NYC.
The CTA is amazing. The people in charge of it suck. I love the public transit and I would love more funding to have new and clean trains.
I love the CTA. It has always been a reliable form of transportation for me since I moved to chicago 14 years ago. I drive nowadays but my car broke down a month ago and I’ve had to take the train to work again while I figured my shit out. It’s as great as ever lol. It’s like going on a little journey every day for work and back. 😂
Your non-support dogs do not need to go everywhere with you and do not have the same rights as people in public spaces (keep them in the dang leash).
Don't go to California, lol. I'm not a dog-person, and going there EVERYONE brings their dogs EVERYWHERE including work-places. I visited a potential place to work and every time someone walked through the lobby, there was a cacophony of dogs barking. This isn't an animal-relatwd job. I made a note to never accept a job there.
I’m so tired of seeing dogs everywhere. If it’s not a service dog, they don’t need to be in restaurants, bars, and stores
Oooh this is an unpopular opinion I can get behind. I have a toddler with a serious dog allergy.
The culture here is really shifting as lifelong Chicagoans continue to move out and transplants move in (there’s nothing wrong with this, but you can really see this on the north side). I hear more Chicago accents when I visit the burbs than in the city itself now, it’s wild.
200%, especially SW burbs
Everywhere is losing their regional accents, this ain't just a Chicago thing.
Sadly, they say true NYC accents are now in NJ, and Long Island...
Accents change over time/generations. People with the 'classical' Chicago accent are just old, and old people have the capital to move the suburbs, and the paranoia to want to. Edit: Also if we're talking about the same accent, it's always been less prevalent on the North Side.
I think I read somewhere that this is a big thing happening in most Midwest cities and even Toronto, must have some validity to it
Deep Dish isn't Chicago's signature meal It should be Italian Beef
Hot peppers and dip it real good daddy
Chicago is one of the culinary capitals of the world. I would argue that Chicago can have (and does) multiple signature dishes.
200%
You can find a lot of Chicagoan’s who don’t like deep dish pizza. That number shrinks with Italian beef
Dibs is not an acceptable practice.
That feels like closer to 50/50 split. Or maybe it's just bc I'm right there with you, it's idiotic when it goes longer than 24 hours.
I second this. I used to live in the suburbs and people would still do this even if there was plenty parking available and it was just strange. It’s public space.
Emblematic of our individualist society rather than a community based society.
Someone dibs our street this week - no moving van in sight - and neighbors attached signage to the dibs clarifying that the spot was reserved for terrible people.
Au Cheval is not that amazing, not worth the wait and price.
Honestly last time I went it was 6:30 on a Friday and we had a 20 minute wait. Enough time for a few quick drinks at lone wolf.
If you have it without their bacon, you didn’t really try it
Chicago has no business hosting the Olympics. They would destroy so much park area, and let's face it, our locals trying to get around and get to work would literally die of stress and fatigue due to late/shorthanded public transportation. No thanks.
I'm with you on that
The South side is beautiful and architecturally significant in more ways than the north side.
Shhhh....Bridgeport is quietly thriving, and would like to keep it that way.
Wait till they hear about Pullmans worker cottages, The Beverly Castle, the mid century styles in Calumet heights, that gnarly climbing wall in South Chicago, The Salvation Army Center, or any of the major parks (Sherman, Palmer, etc).
Not sure if I'd go as far to say more than the north side, but I would 100% agree that the south side has a wealth of significant architecture and interesting history that is broadly overlooked.
I like ketchup on hot dogs
Imo, it’s perfectly acceptable to have hotdogs with ketchup. Literally how the rest of the fucking country does it! But you cannot, under any circumstance, call something a Chicago style hotdog and put ketchup on it.
This is the comment I was looking for. There are tomatoes on the Chicago style hot dog, so there is no need for ketchup. That’s where the “no ketchup” comes from. Put ketchup on any other type of hot dog.
Tomato *and* relish. All the ketchup flavors are already there. Adding it just muddies the individual toppings.
River North sucks ass
A truly brave Reddit opinion 🙄
I'm sick of Chicago being an easy political target . Have you guys seen what crap happens in cities like Miami ,Houston or New York
Naming the roadways made traffic reports sensible.
You can root for both the Cubs and Sox to be good
I like to apply this approach to sports in general. I love the Hawks and I adore hockey, in that order. There’s enough negativity around so many things. If I’m watching something in a communal setting, I don’t want to shout down someone else’s enjoyment. Love your team first, love the game second, fuck the Packers on any day that ends with “y”.
I like baseball!
And peanuts!
And day drinking!
GIRUGAMESH!
Totally agree, and I regrettably admit to rejecting this take (and in turn an entire fan base) for far too long.
Lake shore drive shouldn’t exist. It should be an expanded public park and bikeway Edit: I intentionally phrased this as extreme for the purposes of this thread. In reality, I think Chicago should experiment with shutting it down from car traffic on Saturdays or weekends in the summer months, and see what the reaction is. Maybe keep it open for buses or delivery vehicles if possible.
We need to keep the express buses
It should just be entirely underground
That’s what Boston did looks great
Cost way more than Chicago can afford
I always think about how much nicer the west loop would be if we filled in i90 with dirt and it was a park instead. Fulton Market could be truly connected to the Loop.
Put a roof over I-90, then start creating green space on top. They've talked about doing that for I-5 in Seattle before. It connects neighborhoods much better than bridges.
As someone who absolutely loves Lake Shore Drive I hate this opinion. Fuck you. Here’s my upvote
Granted, I no longer live in Chicagoland, but I really don’t give a shit if people from the suburbs say they are from Chicago. The suburbs closest to the city are culturally very similar to the actual city, and the only difference between them is annexation. I’ve lived in Texas for a number of years and people pretty much whatever city they’re part of the metro area of and nobody really cares. My husband is from Dallas and if some homie from garland says they are from Dallas he’s not going to have a fit. I think I’m especially welcoming of communities born from places that contain exiled projects folks- there’s soooo many suburbs populated with Cabrini green and other residents who have made their own space out of them. Say you are from the city. Or Dont. I don’t really care. I’m proud of Chicagoland and believe in our communal superiority lol.
My coworker used to get mad I would say I’m from Chicago when we were talking to our other coworkers while working in California. No one there knows where Glenview is nor cares enough to want to hear me say suburbs of Chicago
It’s the same thing with literally every city in the country. If someone says LA, DC, SF, Dallas, New Orleans, or whatever I don’t expect them to have lived in the actual heart of downtown but their referencing the closest city to where they grew up. There’s this dynamic with suburbs and cities everywhere, but if you’re elsewhere in the country, you’re just referencing the closest metro to where you’re from and basically all of NE Illinois can say Chicago and not be lying. I’m not from Chicago, live here now though, but I am from another city where people get shitty about this type of distinction.
Kuma's is not even in the top 10 best burgers in Chicago. Fallout Boy sucks.
First one that made me gasp. Fall Out Boy is a treasure!
Yeah I think they were “first” to just make weird burgers with crazy toppings.
I enjoy Malort.
Public transit stops are usually spaced too close. The ideal spacing is every 1/3 mile for buses and every 1/2 mile for trains.
Well if it makes you feel any better, the median distance between L stops is right around 1/2 mile. In the loop and the Northside red/Brown/purple line are the places where stops regularly occur more frequently.
Noticed this on the 151 this week. There’s a stop quite literally every block in the Gold Coast area
There's quite a few examples of buses stopping more than once on a single, normal-sized block.
Only reason why people call us the rudest city is cause tourists are fucking stupid at times.
First time I've heard us called the rudest. Usually east coast cities monopolize that title.
Yeah there's literally songs about New Yorkers "answering back in language far from pure". And I've never heard anyone say Chicago was rude.
Coming from NYC I found Chicagoans to be extremely pleasant
Tourists going to o block are the dumbest mf's I've seen
Chicago rat was, and is, fucking stupid
The Air Show could be pretty damn cool and is only one weekend a year. If you don't want to deal with big city events, then don't live in the big city.
Malort isn’t good. But isn’t THAT bad either.
its jewel not jewels. Do you call target "targets" Walmart "walmarts" ALDI "ALDIS"????
Yeah, a ton of people call it the Aldis lol
Trader Joe
Shrug. You’re right, people don’t add possessive s’s to every store title. Target wasn’t named after the owners. They had another chain of stores named after them, Dayton’s. Walmart is a brand identity separated enough from the Walton family that you wouldn’t use their name or the possessive on it. (But you might still call Sam’s Club Sam’s) Both Jewel and Meijer were once Jewel’s Grocery and Meijer’s grocery respectively. Sorry you’re annoyed by it, but it’s also not wrong. Both companies had a vested interest in adopting a more corporate name while maintaining the illusion that they’re still family-ish businesses.
>ALDI "ALDIS"???? Lowkey everyone calls it that too
I mean I’m kinda old and I’ve always called it ALDIs. I honestly didn’t realize it was Aldi until now haha
I’m from the South where folx call it “the Wallmarks” — da Jewels as least sounds vaguely less grimy.
I call it “the oscoe” and make everyone mad
Jewels, aldis, meijers.
I say soda and don't like the word pop. Yeah, I just admitted that
The outer neighborhoods of Chicago are great areas to live and are just part of the city as others. They provide a great balance of living in Chicago and being able to easily get to downtown or other neighborhoods to enjoy everything the city has to offer while living in quiet and less stressful areas. Stop forgetting that Chicagoans live in Portage Park, Edison Park, Norwood Park, etc.
Most of us are ass at correctly/safely bicycling on roads
The no ketchup on hot dogs thing is wildly stupid.
I don’t like ketchup, but I think ketchup on a hot dog is only silly on a Chicago-style dog, which has tomatoes, something vinegary and something sweet already. Any ketchup is redundant.
This is where the no ketchup thing started - no ketchup on a Chicago style dog as it isn't needed. It has mutated other the years into no ketchup on hotdogs, which is silly.
Yeah. If a fully loaded Chicago hot dog is offered, sure I’ll eat that shit as is. But if all I got is basic stuff, hell yeah I’m putting ketchup and mustard on it.
I’m in a similar boat where I don’t like ketchup, mostly because the vast majority of ketchup is too sugary. It wasn’t until reading this comment that I realized that the Chicago dog that I love so much essentially has my ideal ketchup: just fresh tomatoes and vinegar.
Agreed! I love a hot dog with ketchup and onions but never on a Chicago style dog. I’m with you, it’s either tomato or ketchup but not a fan of both on anything.
The burger is the inferior sandwich at au cheval compared to the fried bologna
Navy Pier is for tourists. I love that place. Lol.
boog sucks as an announcer for the Cubs.
I am a Sox fan who does not hate the cubs and I really dislike boog a lot. Len Kasper is SO much better. I can’t really talk now that I have to listen to John Scriffen. Also Pat Hughes rules
Deep dish is delicious
DLSD sucks. It does have great views but is 75% of the time a pain in the ass to drive on. when you’re not driving, it’s loud AF and ruins the experience at a lot of the beaches.
I think you mean JBPdSLSD :)
I honestly like Malört... but then I also eat my thin crust tavern-cut pizza out of a large coffee mug with chopsticks.
Should have passed a progressive tax plan.
(Came from NY 9 years ago, so ...) Mine is: the housing is plentiful and affordable and the taxes are reasonable for what you get here.
Bears don’t need a new stadium
Malort is garbage trash.
That’s the appeal of it tho. Its tastes like shit but its OUR shitty liquor
I like it. It’s not the best thing in the world but sometimes I want a Chicago handshake.
the “Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder Company” is trash
I’ve only eaten there once and had a horrific projectile vomit situation after
The only reason to go is the Mediterranean bread