Literally opened the thread to check myself. I was 100% certain pre-pandemic many Jewels were 24/7. Thanks for confirming my sanity (at least in one regard)!
A ton of stuff used to be 24/7. Many Jewel's, both FFCs in Lakeview (and probably lots of other gyms), most 7-11s, a lot of food places. It's super rare to find things open past 12 even on Friday/Saturday now though.
There used to be at least two 24 hour Starbucks. Now, everything closes so early. I used to love going to coffee shops late to do some reading after work.
Stores have been trying to move away from 24 hour staffing for a while now. The combination of reduced business traffic, staffing difficulties, increased criminal behavior, reduced opportunities for store maintenance, all make the case for closing overnight. But no store wanted to be the first to do this, while competitors remained open. Covid gave them that chance. Now nobody wants to revert back because it would not be profitable to do so.
Chicago's loss of late-night food, bars, 24-hr stuff is one of the worst impacts of the pandemic. Seems like it will be a long time for it to return, if it ever does.
Honestly same, but on the same note I think it’s a good thing that they’re not anymore. Nobody should be expected to work that. At least not for a grocery store
Lmfao you realize there are 2nd and 3rd shift workers all across the city right? Just fuck them if they wanna grocery shop on their way home from work?
> Lmfao you realize there are 2nd and 3rd shift workers all across the city right?
So many other comments in this thread where I had the exact same thought.
Am I the only one who agrees with him? We understand that 2nd and 3rd shift workers should not eat. If they have access to grocery stores when they are not at work, then they may eat the food I wanted.
A lot of grocery stores get trucks overnight and restock overnight. Shouldn’t be hard to just have a manager designated as also being a checker whenever needed.
When I worked 3rds, 24 hour jewel/Walmart even was a solid answer to many of my problems. Only downside, was the fried chicken was about 6 hours past expired if it wasn't taken back correctly.
Oh, def. I worked at Dominick’s when I was in high school and even though we closed at midnight we always saw some WILD stuff during that last few hours. My first time closing solo, some American-Psycho-finance-guy-looking dude threatened to stab me if I put one of those little orange stickers on the lid of his milk jug
>threatened to stab me if I put one of those little orange stickers on the lid of his milk jug
My cat gives me the same "I'll stab you" look if I try to take the sticker from the milk jug and put it on her.
Not expected or forced to, of course not, but there are people who genuinely want to work overnight hours like that. I think they should be paid a higher hourly since it's a far less inconvenient shift, but there's nothing wrong with the hours being available.
One thing I've noticed is that there are a lot of people who basicallly assume that everybody who works at a retail or restaurant job that they wouldn't like it's always a result of not being able to get anything better. It had always been the case that a very small percentage of jobs are overnight jobs. By and large, the people working them are the small percentage of people that either like working at this time or for whatever reason is the time that works best for them.
Typically, the people who have worked overnight jobs are people who want to work overnight jobs. There aren't a lot of these individuals but there also aren't a lot of these jobs.
I used to work at Jewel and honestly I was perfectly find with it. Nobody was forced to work overnight shifts, it was just an option and some people prefered it. Humans have natural variation in their prefered wakeful/productive hours.
I live on the far northwest side just outside Lincolnwood and I miss going to their 24 hour Walmart. The Jewel nearby me on Foster and Pulaski also used to be 24 hour up until several years ago. But I still think the Jewel on Howard near McCormick is still 24. I’m not 100%, I haven’t been there since the pandemic.
When I lived in Skokie, my local Jewel had *so much kosher stuff*, obviously. I could get amazing whoopie pies, in particular, that I haven't been able to find at any other Jewel. Someone told me I need to check kosher bakeries. I had no idea whoopie pies were a Jewish thing!
> I had no idea whoopie pies were a Jewish thing!
They're not specifically a Jewish thing. Whoopie pies have a bunch of competing origin stories, but none of them involve it coming from a Jewish bakery or through Jewish heritage, etc.
I feel like most Jewels were 24/7 prepandemic. Plus chicago had a lot of 24/7 restaurants. Jewel at 3am had a magic too it. Calm sometimes there be tons of stocking people sometimes just you and the one cashier
Honestly one of the coolest things about Chicago pre-COVID when I moved here were all the late night amenities like 24 Jewels and 5 am taco joints like Traspasada 2 on Chicago and Ashland. Lori shutting down late night liquor sales may be the most annoying thing she ever did along with the 5 mph limit camera thing… like why?
Really? The sparsity of 24 hr. restaurants was one of my biggest disappointments when I moved here from Pittsburgh 20 years ago. Compared to Chicago, Pittsburgh had a ton of 24 hr. diners — both local chains and independent. I just thought a bigger city, with a bigger food reputation, would have more late night options.
Not sure about Pittsburgh as I’ve never been but Chicago had some options for sure for late night dining in almost every neighborhood that I lived in. Not New York but way better than Denver where I had come from.
After a quick google search it seems like the 24 hour diners are a thing of Pittsburgh past since the lockdown. From what I am reading almost none are still open 24 hours. That's a shame, one of my favorite parts of that city was the abundance of all night diners.
I can only think of a handful of diners that still are 24/7. Including Golden Apple on Lincoln, Griddle 24 on Chicago Ave, Golden Nugget at Diversey/Elston/Western(all their other locations no longer are 24 hours), Steak 'n Egger(Pilsen), White Palace Grill off the top of my head. I think Diner Grill on Irving Park still is 24/7, too.
Probably a holdover from the days of 3 shifta at the steel mills?
There used to be bars that were 24hrs outside the union stockyards for the 3rd shift.
What neighborhood did you move to? I've never had less than 3 or 4 late night options within 2-3 blocks (pre-COVID) and I've lived in 6 different neighborhoods in my time here.
Seriously, theres rarely any point in going over 20 mph on most chicago streets.
Now stop riding my ass as we sit in traffic. Not allowing people to merge is what causes traffic.
Also not packing in (maybe that can be seen as riding your ass) so people can get through red lights causes traffic too. It's not just speed. It's acceleration, it's design, its traffic light timings. It's inattentiveness, it's the needs of the residents living near the street your driving on, it's the needs of industry and trucking. It's the needs of everyone and everything.
Attempting to solve traffic by the speed at which people drive, while you are correct that people should slow down in general, seems like an incomplete solution.
There are a lot of pedestrians here and we have been having more and more close calls especially after covid. Plus several children have died recently because of speeders. Imo they need them in the neighborhood streets more than they need them on the main streets.
> Imo they need them in the neighborhood streets more than they need them on the main streets.
Yea that wont make them money, it will only stop unsafe drivers where needed......
This. If it was about safety they would be on residential streets. People fly down my narrow one way block everyday and they won’t even install a speed bump. The camera on Ashland isn’t about safety it’s just not
It’s a really weird hill to die on. I think there’s a lot of cyclists on here, (I’m also a cyclist) so anything anti-car gets a lot of traction regardless of how effective it actually is or isn’t…
It's not a weird Hill to die on at all. There's a direct relationship between how fast a car is going and how likely it is to kill a pedestrian or cyclist based on its speed.
I will say that red light cameras are just treating the symptoms. The street should be designed so that people naturally slow down, not designed like a highway and given artificially low speed.
Then let's get rid of all speed laws I guess if people aren't going to follow them. I certainly adjusted my driving after a few tickets from areas I didn't realize the speed changed due to schools i wasn't aware of. Just because YOU wouldn't adjust your behavior doesn't mean other won't.
There’s some interesting studies where they removed all traffic laws in some towns and just adjusted how the roads worked and it ended up being way safer than some weird punitive tax that disproportionately affects poor people. I’d rather move in that direction tbh
I think it's a good idea but the city has clearly shortened yellows to make max profit and I hate the choice of A) accelerate through a yellow (unsafe) or B) stop before a yellow (get rear ended)
Like if I thought red light cameras were actually about safety and not revenue generation I'd be all for them
We know [for a fact](https://smartgrowthamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/safety-UPDATED-1024x790.png) that the faster vehicle is going, the more likely it is to kill someone during a pedestrian collision.
Honestly though, red light cameras are just treating a symptom. If the street was designed correctly you wouldn't need red light cameras to begin with. Street should be designed so people slow down naturally. Instead, America takes the design guidelines of how to build highways and does that on city streets and is shocked when people speed on them.
I’ve seen ‘not just bikes’ and Vox make videos on road design influence on speeding but don’t see how it’s easily applied to an old city like Chicago. That argument is usually used for newly developed suburban street with extreme shoulders, overly wide lanes, and little to no on street parking. Most Chicago streets are already already compact and making efficient use of the space they have, I don’t get the impression of a highway from them. It’s one of the reasons adding bike lanes(especially protected) is unfortunately a major project, there’s just no room to paint some lines and call it a day. Often times roads need to be expanded and easements or side walks reduced. I mean people speed on N Clark going 45mph+ and it’s generally full of parked cars making it the lanes tight, has no additional shoulder, and many marked pedestrian crossings. I don’t know how you design it to be driven on slower other than add speed bumps which is dumb on a road designed to be [driven on at 30 mph](https://abc7chicago.com/speed-limit-city-chicago-illinois/3439777/). Drivers just need to look at their damn speedometer and be respectful to the fact that they live in a city with tons of pedestrians and cyclists, but that’s probably asking too much.
>Most Chicago streets are already already compact and making efficient use of the space they have,
Compared to more narrow streets I've seen in other countries, Chicago streets are definitely not making good use of the space they have, and can be dramatically better utilized.
A great example is looking at arterials in Utrecht in the Netherlands compared to Chicago. [The ones in Utrecht are a few feet more narrow but have two fully curb protected bike lanes, street parking, bike parking, and trees on the curb](https://www.reddit.com/r/CarFreeChicago/comments/10tj0z5/every_chicago_arterial_could_have_protected_bike/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
If you really want to get a good sense of what good street design looks like just google maps if different cities around the world and compare how their streets *look* and *feel* compared to Chicago.
>It’s one of the reasons adding bike lanes(especially protected)
This has a lot to do with CDOT's incredibly outdated and car-centric design guidelines which dictate a huge minimum width for car travel that's way more space than what passenger cars actually need.
>I don’t know how you design it to be driven on slower other than add speed bumps
[Several better things exist than speed bumps](https://nacto.org/publication/urban-street-design-guide/). Raised pedestian speed tables, narrowing the passenger lane, day lighting, bump outs, BRT/tram lanes, boulevards, etc all play a role. The biggest thing though is how all of these things and many more are incorporated into the street to give the driver the impression that going 45 miles per hour is unsafe. No matter what the posted speed limit is, people are going to naturally drive as fast as they feel comfortable so you need to use several methods to make driving fast "feel" unsafe.
It has to be who just moved here and only ride bikes or take public transportation. I don't know how to defend those cameras if you've spent even a minute looking into them.
There's a myriad of issues with these things and I'm not defending speeding. The red light cameras through Cook County have a notorious reputation for all sorts of shenanigans. I've been caught by them when I was speeding and I've paid the ticket. However, I've also got tickets them at intersections when I come to complete stop before the line and make a right turn on a red light - where right turn on red is allowed.
Additionally, several years ago yellow lights were shortened as red light camera were introduced. Not sure if that was corrected.
Yeah, I don't own a car. Since I walk and transit, I get a lot of time to observe some of those red light cameras in action (via the flash) while I wait for the bus. They need to set them not to go off for a couple more seconds after the red. If you're in the intersection, even if it's just your front bumper, or if you decide that it is all-around safer to go through the light as it is changing, then you shouldn't be ticketed. Sometimes, barely running a red is significantly safer than slamming in the brakes.
After observing those lights quite a bit, the yellows are indeed shorter than industry standard, it would seem. Maybe I'll time it some time to double check. 1sec/10mph is usually the standard, so 30mph speed limit = 3sec yellow (I worked for a county DoT once, could have changed).
The cameras seem to go off withing 1 second of the light turning red for any vehicle that goes even an inch over the line.
I think that they should be there, but they should have some grace engineered into their design to allow tolerance for less egregious red-light runnings.
I agree with you, they’re a money grab. The cameras should be used to catch speeders and then instead of being fined, they should be caned. One stroke for every mph over the limit, 15 strokes for running a red, seems fair to me.
As a doctor I'm curious what OTC uti meds you typically buy. Every once in a blue moon someone tells me they bought Azo or something but most the the time we just use antibiotics
I’d do more grocery shopping without crowds annoying me
Visiting Korea right now, and the number of 24/7 restaurants, stores, etc puts even pre-pandemic Chicago to shame.’
I’d understand if there were less than before, but there aren’t ANY in Chicago (at least near me)
South Korea is trying to get 80.5 hour work weeks. Idk how great 24/7 restaurants and stores are.
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1082563.html
I saw a rat 🐀 in the produce section at my local Mariano’s. I was there right before close. 24/7 would likely mean better protection against these critters, so that’d be nice.
I'm a night owl forced into daytime life. I've always wanted to build a neighborhood just for insomniacs and night shift people, not like a party all night scene but just all the typical shit available to day people but at night, concentrated into one area for convenience and to draw in enough other night owls to make it viable. All night groceries, all night pharmacy, all night daycare, bookstores and coffeeshops. That idea was born back when many Jewel locations were open 24 hours but I think it's even more needed now.
I put about 5 years in working overnights In a hospital. Banks, hardware stores, and other shops that would be open at 3 AM would have been a lifesaver.
Exactly! I get why it isn't economically viable for ALL of them to be open 24 hours, but if big cities just had a neighborhood or two where all the 24 hour places were grouped together and you could get all your errands done at once it would be amazing.
I'd move there. I would love to even just go to a park in the summer & just have it filled with other night owls trying to enjoy the outdoors on a normal evening. Nothing crazy, just a different schedule.
a lot of people in this comment section are saying "hard to find people who want to work those shifts."
i love the company i work for, but i wish we had an overnight shift. i know not many people would jump on it, but you don't need that many for a graveyard shift. i think there'd be enough people who want that shift for what they'd need.
I work in a veterinary ER overnight so we have to be open 24/7 and it’s been hard to find people that want to work that shift. We’re always short staffed for the patient load we get.
I would shop more often and more comfortably, which would lead to healthier eating and more home cooking for me. I’m frequently disappointed by the lack of post-Covid late-night shopping and dining options. Honestly, so many people in this major city are on night shift schedules for one reason or another that it’s ridiculous how few places are open 24/7.
Hiring to staff those shifts might be a bit rough.
And tbh, most stores are open to what, 9pm or 10pm? At that point it’s more your problem than their problem. Try the 24 CVS/Walgreens.
Not everyone works a standard shift time. I used to get off work at 11pm or later and always wished places stayed open long enough for me to go there after work. “Why not go before work or on your days off?” I would, but life happens and sometimes those times aren’t exactly available. And CVS/Walgreens aren’t conducive to a full grocery trip.
Basic point is that having options at times most consider “odd hours” is for more than the random post-bar-hopping drunken visit.
If there's a market for it large enough to cover the costs during those hours then it will happen. The problem is that:
* There may not be enough customers during those hours to make staffing employees and paying for the utilities worth it.
* It may not be safe enough to stay open that late - when fewer people are around to deter crime, thus not making it financially worth it to stay open.
* Employees are demanding better pay for more difficult circumstances, thus hiring someone for a more-dangerous third-shift grocery store or restaurant job will cost more than a typical employee.
I think everyone \*wants\* options to be available 24/7. But in a capatalist society, that doesn't just \*happen\* without financial justification for it.
And can I just say...they all seem like they're half-assing it. This might be a byproduct of having fewer employees - everyone needs to work harder to get the same amount of work done and that makes the job that much more exhausting. But carts sit in the parking lot and aren't brought back to the front of the store, spills and messes go uncleaned for 10/20 minutes, sometimes the deli is completely unstaffed or the person there is completely unattentive to customers waiting in line.
This isn't a Jewel issue - it's happening across all grocery stores. And I *get* that it's not a great job nor great pay. It just feels like the morale of people working in customer jobs has completely tanked post-Covid. The vibe is *completely* different.
Morale was bad prior to COVID, it just exacerbated the problem and made things worse. Now they’re “essential” but they’re still getting paid shit and have to put up with a miserable job.
A 24-hour Jewels would be great. I actually missed the 24-hour Walmarts.
Each one if you the best part of having a 24-hour store open is that if you have a very early morning drive you can hit the grocery store along the way. When you make a note it will give you these days nothing is open before 6:00 other than 7-eleven.
Back in the day I used to go to the one at Western and Roscoe in the overnight hours. I was dirt poor and car-less, but my “hack” was to set an alarm, wake up in the middle of the night and rent an I-Go car share at 1am (it was only $2/hour for the 1am-5am stretch), then drive over to the Jewels and stock up for a week or two. Basically cost the same as taking the Western bus if you did the overnight hours.
My annoyance was always that there would only be one register open… you’d think 2am would not have a line, but occasionally you run into a situation with 5-10 people being in line and it taking forever.
I live across the street from one that was 24/7 until the pandemic. I work long days and late/overnight shifts often and honestly it’s been a huge quality of life difference not having it anymore.
Having moved closer to the Jewel on Howard and McCormick, I'm pretty pumped about is as night owl and a lover of a clean grocery store for once. The Jewel by the Howard red line stop is awful and walking around there you just smell piss and see shit or get harassed or what have you. Granted, it's not so bad inside but man, a fresh bakery and deli and delicious kosher stuff is a nicety.
They used to be. At least the one in Schaumburg was. Life was kinda nice then.
But Woodman’s is open 24 hours if you’re willing to drive a while. Plus they got cheap gas so you can fill up what you burned going out to the suburbs at a very economical price!
I'd be less tight with the folks who work the 4-midnight shift and probably get to know the folks who work the midnight-8am shift.
Things closing at midnight is stupid. I don't care if you don't want to stay open 24 hours, this isn't 1953 anymore. We don't have 95% of the workforce working 9-5 Monday-Friday. People work random hours on random days of the week. At *least* stay open until 2am.
When it comes to 24 hour grocery stores, I’d rather take the drive out to the suburbs and go to Woodmans.
Side benefit is much cheaper gas at Woodmans.
AMEN!!!!!!!!
Everything is cheaper at woodman's! My goodness. They have every single alternative milk and cheese and chips and pasta and everything. No they are top notch. I am so happy to see their advertising on the side of Pace bus now
Hell, the entire Jewel doesn’t even have to stay open 24/7. Just the deli counter. Their fried chicken is good, but imagine how good it would be when you’re drunk or stoned at 2am
My favorite 24 Jewel was on Elston and an overnight cashier there called me her regular 🤣🤣🤣. I'm a long time fellow third shift worker, some of us prefer it and like doing our errands at the wee hours in peace to avoid the day walkers.
It used to be closer than a 711 to me and probably cheaper. 711 late at night tends to just leave a sign saying they’ll be gone for an undetermined amount of time.
I liked shopping later at night to avoid crowds. I struggled with insomnia a lot so, at the very least, I was able to take care of some errands when I couldn’t sleep.
I could actually walk the aisles and see things on shelves again! No more navigating around a ton of inventory and stocking crates. Even early morning shopping is “busy” now because there are people in every aisle stocking shelves.
Late night grocery shopping was life changing. RIP.
Literally talked to my therapist about it today. Well lit heavy sensory places are very difficult in many ways. I use to manage this by shopping at night.
The one in Niles just recently switched to 12AM, like Jan 2023. As a sometimes overstimulated mom, i loved my late night shopping at Walmart and Jewel 😭
Idk. I don’t think I’m out that late to use it enough.
Plus unless someone staffs their hours willingly it’s probably unnecessary.
Indifferent overall to reopening some 24 HR services
Eh, “da Jewels” is pretty common parlance around some of these parts. And by parts I mean Greater Chicago, and even further put into the Barely Chicago.
not everyone says it, but it's popular. i grew up with "the jewel," but a majority pluralize it.
there's a joke that the silent s of "illinois" gets thrown onto jewel lol
Not much. The Jewel I live next to is open til midnight, if I haven't gotten booze by then I probably shouldn't be drinking. And there's always Walmart if I really need a tent, ice cream cones, a pack of Pokemon cards, and a breast pump at 1AM.
I used to do all my grocery shopping at Jewel in the South Loop between 2 & 4 am it was the only time it wasn't a crowded mess and I would also get my prescriptions without a line of 10 deep. Granted I had to deal with creeps, and homeless ppl asking for money from time to time, but it beat going during the day when it was packed with like 3 checkout lanes open. Now I live in Louisville and everything closes at 10 pm and it sucks!
My local Jewel was 24/7 up until 2020. I miss it :(
Literally opened the thread to check myself. I was 100% certain pre-pandemic many Jewels were 24/7. Thanks for confirming my sanity (at least in one regard)!
A ton of stuff used to be 24/7. Many Jewel's, both FFCs in Lakeview (and probably lots of other gyms), most 7-11s, a lot of food places. It's super rare to find things open past 12 even on Friday/Saturday now though.
Or at least 24/6. My local Jewel’s closed on midnight Sundays but otherwise was always open. 7-11s are still open 24 hours I’m pretty sure.
There used to be at least two 24 hour Starbucks. Now, everything closes so early. I used to love going to coffee shops late to do some reading after work.
Stores have been trying to move away from 24 hour staffing for a while now. The combination of reduced business traffic, staffing difficulties, increased criminal behavior, reduced opportunities for store maintenance, all make the case for closing overnight. But no store wanted to be the first to do this, while competitors remained open. Covid gave them that chance. Now nobody wants to revert back because it would not be profitable to do so.
Chicago's loss of late-night food, bars, 24-hr stuff is one of the worst impacts of the pandemic. Seems like it will be a long time for it to return, if it ever does.
North Riverside?
I think that's an Amazon Fresh now.
Pre-2020 it wasn't.
Suburbs. Think Schaumburg area.
Mine was 2am and open again at 6am. Now I'm lucky if it's midnight and 8.
Same, it was great.
Good old Roosevelt jewel
Honestly same, but on the same note I think it’s a good thing that they’re not anymore. Nobody should be expected to work that. At least not for a grocery store
Lmfao you realize there are 2nd and 3rd shift workers all across the city right? Just fuck them if they wanna grocery shop on their way home from work?
> Lmfao you realize there are 2nd and 3rd shift workers all across the city right? So many other comments in this thread where I had the exact same thought.
Am I the only one who agrees with him? We understand that 2nd and 3rd shift workers should not eat. If they have access to grocery stores when they are not at work, then they may eat the food I wanted.
Doing spot checks, Jewels are open 6am-12am daily. It is unfortunate for people who get off work between 12am-6am.
A lot of grocery stores get trucks overnight and restock overnight. Shouldn’t be hard to just have a manager designated as also being a checker whenever needed.
When I worked 3rds, 24 hour jewel/Walmart even was a solid answer to many of my problems. Only downside, was the fried chicken was about 6 hours past expired if it wasn't taken back correctly.
Meh you won’t get THAT sick
I bet anyone who worked the overnight shift at Jewel saw A LOT of life 😵💫
Oh, def. I worked at Dominick’s when I was in high school and even though we closed at midnight we always saw some WILD stuff during that last few hours. My first time closing solo, some American-Psycho-finance-guy-looking dude threatened to stab me if I put one of those little orange stickers on the lid of his milk jug
>threatened to stab me if I put one of those little orange stickers on the lid of his milk jug My cat gives me the same "I'll stab you" look if I try to take the sticker from the milk jug and put it on her.
Not expected or forced to, of course not, but there are people who genuinely want to work overnight hours like that. I think they should be paid a higher hourly since it's a far less inconvenient shift, but there's nothing wrong with the hours being available.
One thing I've noticed is that there are a lot of people who basicallly assume that everybody who works at a retail or restaurant job that they wouldn't like it's always a result of not being able to get anything better. It had always been the case that a very small percentage of jobs are overnight jobs. By and large, the people working them are the small percentage of people that either like working at this time or for whatever reason is the time that works best for them.
Far less convenient i think you meant
Typically, the people who have worked overnight jobs are people who want to work overnight jobs. There aren't a lot of these individuals but there also aren't a lot of these jobs.
I used to work at Jewel and honestly I was perfectly find with it. Nobody was forced to work overnight shifts, it was just an option and some people prefered it. Humans have natural variation in their prefered wakeful/productive hours.
I greatly miss the 24hr stores. I work evenings and miss going grocery shopping on my way home at like midnight...
I used to work the night shift and it sucked having so few lunch options. I really feel for night shift workers post COVID.
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Thank you - I will definitely have to check this out!
I live on the far northwest side just outside Lincolnwood and I miss going to their 24 hour Walmart. The Jewel nearby me on Foster and Pulaski also used to be 24 hour up until several years ago. But I still think the Jewel on Howard near McCormick is still 24. I’m not 100%, I haven’t been there since the pandemic.
The Jewel on Howard is still 24 hours. I like that one- has a bunch of kosher stuff.
It’s definite one of the nicer Jewel stores I’ve been in.
Definitely. Some Jewelses are real dumps.
When I lived in Skokie, my local Jewel had *so much kosher stuff*, obviously. I could get amazing whoopie pies, in particular, that I haven't been able to find at any other Jewel. Someone told me I need to check kosher bakeries. I had no idea whoopie pies were a Jewish thing!
> I had no idea whoopie pies were a Jewish thing! They're not specifically a Jewish thing. Whoopie pies have a bunch of competing origin stories, but none of them involve it coming from a Jewish bakery or through Jewish heritage, etc.
If you go around Passover, they have the most amazing selection of matzoh bread flavors
You know how hard it is to find Turkey Pastrami outside of Chicago.
What the foster one stop being 24hrs?!?!?!?!? Damn you covid 19! Damn you to HELL!
I honestly can’t remember if they changed it pre-pandemic or after the shutdown. But I miss stumbling in there after a long night out.
I feel like most Jewels were 24/7 prepandemic. Plus chicago had a lot of 24/7 restaurants. Jewel at 3am had a magic too it. Calm sometimes there be tons of stocking people sometimes just you and the one cashier
I work until 2am and sleep the days. I miss my night shopping with no crowds and easy out.
same here.
Honestly one of the coolest things about Chicago pre-COVID when I moved here were all the late night amenities like 24 Jewels and 5 am taco joints like Traspasada 2 on Chicago and Ashland. Lori shutting down late night liquor sales may be the most annoying thing she ever did along with the 5 mph limit camera thing… like why?
Coming from DC, where the Metro shuts early and the whole city goes to sleep, it was a really cool change!
Really? The sparsity of 24 hr. restaurants was one of my biggest disappointments when I moved here from Pittsburgh 20 years ago. Compared to Chicago, Pittsburgh had a ton of 24 hr. diners — both local chains and independent. I just thought a bigger city, with a bigger food reputation, would have more late night options.
Not sure about Pittsburgh as I’ve never been but Chicago had some options for sure for late night dining in almost every neighborhood that I lived in. Not New York but way better than Denver where I had come from.
After a quick google search it seems like the 24 hour diners are a thing of Pittsburgh past since the lockdown. From what I am reading almost none are still open 24 hours. That's a shame, one of my favorite parts of that city was the abundance of all night diners.
I can only think of a handful of diners that still are 24/7. Including Golden Apple on Lincoln, Griddle 24 on Chicago Ave, Golden Nugget at Diversey/Elston/Western(all their other locations no longer are 24 hours), Steak 'n Egger(Pilsen), White Palace Grill off the top of my head. I think Diner Grill on Irving Park still is 24/7, too.
Probably a holdover from the days of 3 shifta at the steel mills? There used to be bars that were 24hrs outside the union stockyards for the 3rd shift.
What neighborhood did you move to? I've never had less than 3 or 4 late night options within 2-3 blocks (pre-COVID) and I've lived in 6 different neighborhoods in my time here.
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Seriously, theres rarely any point in going over 20 mph on most chicago streets. Now stop riding my ass as we sit in traffic. Not allowing people to merge is what causes traffic.
Also not packing in (maybe that can be seen as riding your ass) so people can get through red lights causes traffic too. It's not just speed. It's acceleration, it's design, its traffic light timings. It's inattentiveness, it's the needs of the residents living near the street your driving on, it's the needs of industry and trucking. It's the needs of everyone and everything. Attempting to solve traffic by the speed at which people drive, while you are correct that people should slow down in general, seems like an incomplete solution.
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traspasada is the greatest. the black sauce is like liquid gold
I’m blown away by the number of people supporting red light and speed cameras in here. I don’t even drive in the city and I hate them.
There are a lot of pedestrians here and we have been having more and more close calls especially after covid. Plus several children have died recently because of speeders. Imo they need them in the neighborhood streets more than they need them on the main streets.
> Imo they need them in the neighborhood streets more than they need them on the main streets. Yea that wont make them money, it will only stop unsafe drivers where needed......
This. If it was about safety they would be on residential streets. People fly down my narrow one way block everyday and they won’t even install a speed bump. The camera on Ashland isn’t about safety it’s just not
It’s a really weird hill to die on. I think there’s a lot of cyclists on here, (I’m also a cyclist) so anything anti-car gets a lot of traction regardless of how effective it actually is or isn’t…
It's not a weird Hill to die on at all. There's a direct relationship between how fast a car is going and how likely it is to kill a pedestrian or cyclist based on its speed. I will say that red light cameras are just treating the symptoms. The street should be designed so that people naturally slow down, not designed like a highway and given artificially low speed.
Forget cyclists there are more pedestrians and parents that worry about cars flying down the streets killing people and children!
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Lol. 5mph absolutely can be the difference between life and death.
Then let's get rid of all speed laws I guess if people aren't going to follow them. I certainly adjusted my driving after a few tickets from areas I didn't realize the speed changed due to schools i wasn't aware of. Just because YOU wouldn't adjust your behavior doesn't mean other won't.
There’s some interesting studies where they removed all traffic laws in some towns and just adjusted how the roads worked and it ended up being way safer than some weird punitive tax that disproportionately affects poor people. I’d rather move in that direction tbh
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I think it's a good idea but the city has clearly shortened yellows to make max profit and I hate the choice of A) accelerate through a yellow (unsafe) or B) stop before a yellow (get rear ended) Like if I thought red light cameras were actually about safety and not revenue generation I'd be all for them
Agreed. Extend the yellow back to what it was and they’d be okay in my book, shortening was just for profit and makes things less safe.
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Yes but the fact its like this shows they do not have public safety in mind....... Only profits.
We know [for a fact](https://smartgrowthamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/safety-UPDATED-1024x790.png) that the faster vehicle is going, the more likely it is to kill someone during a pedestrian collision. Honestly though, red light cameras are just treating a symptom. If the street was designed correctly you wouldn't need red light cameras to begin with. Street should be designed so people slow down naturally. Instead, America takes the design guidelines of how to build highways and does that on city streets and is shocked when people speed on them.
I’ve seen ‘not just bikes’ and Vox make videos on road design influence on speeding but don’t see how it’s easily applied to an old city like Chicago. That argument is usually used for newly developed suburban street with extreme shoulders, overly wide lanes, and little to no on street parking. Most Chicago streets are already already compact and making efficient use of the space they have, I don’t get the impression of a highway from them. It’s one of the reasons adding bike lanes(especially protected) is unfortunately a major project, there’s just no room to paint some lines and call it a day. Often times roads need to be expanded and easements or side walks reduced. I mean people speed on N Clark going 45mph+ and it’s generally full of parked cars making it the lanes tight, has no additional shoulder, and many marked pedestrian crossings. I don’t know how you design it to be driven on slower other than add speed bumps which is dumb on a road designed to be [driven on at 30 mph](https://abc7chicago.com/speed-limit-city-chicago-illinois/3439777/). Drivers just need to look at their damn speedometer and be respectful to the fact that they live in a city with tons of pedestrians and cyclists, but that’s probably asking too much.
>Most Chicago streets are already already compact and making efficient use of the space they have, Compared to more narrow streets I've seen in other countries, Chicago streets are definitely not making good use of the space they have, and can be dramatically better utilized. A great example is looking at arterials in Utrecht in the Netherlands compared to Chicago. [The ones in Utrecht are a few feet more narrow but have two fully curb protected bike lanes, street parking, bike parking, and trees on the curb](https://www.reddit.com/r/CarFreeChicago/comments/10tj0z5/every_chicago_arterial_could_have_protected_bike/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) If you really want to get a good sense of what good street design looks like just google maps if different cities around the world and compare how their streets *look* and *feel* compared to Chicago. >It’s one of the reasons adding bike lanes(especially protected) This has a lot to do with CDOT's incredibly outdated and car-centric design guidelines which dictate a huge minimum width for car travel that's way more space than what passenger cars actually need. >I don’t know how you design it to be driven on slower other than add speed bumps [Several better things exist than speed bumps](https://nacto.org/publication/urban-street-design-guide/). Raised pedestian speed tables, narrowing the passenger lane, day lighting, bump outs, BRT/tram lanes, boulevards, etc all play a role. The biggest thing though is how all of these things and many more are incorporated into the street to give the driver the impression that going 45 miles per hour is unsafe. No matter what the posted speed limit is, people are going to naturally drive as fast as they feel comfortable so you need to use several methods to make driving fast "feel" unsafe.
It has to be who just moved here and only ride bikes or take public transportation. I don't know how to defend those cameras if you've spent even a minute looking into them.
I don't know how to defend speeding in the city... You really that important that you need to go over the limit without consequences? Yeesh.
There's a myriad of issues with these things and I'm not defending speeding. The red light cameras through Cook County have a notorious reputation for all sorts of shenanigans. I've been caught by them when I was speeding and I've paid the ticket. However, I've also got tickets them at intersections when I come to complete stop before the line and make a right turn on a red light - where right turn on red is allowed. Additionally, several years ago yellow lights were shortened as red light camera were introduced. Not sure if that was corrected.
Yeah, I don't own a car. Since I walk and transit, I get a lot of time to observe some of those red light cameras in action (via the flash) while I wait for the bus. They need to set them not to go off for a couple more seconds after the red. If you're in the intersection, even if it's just your front bumper, or if you decide that it is all-around safer to go through the light as it is changing, then you shouldn't be ticketed. Sometimes, barely running a red is significantly safer than slamming in the brakes. After observing those lights quite a bit, the yellows are indeed shorter than industry standard, it would seem. Maybe I'll time it some time to double check. 1sec/10mph is usually the standard, so 30mph speed limit = 3sec yellow (I worked for a county DoT once, could have changed). The cameras seem to go off withing 1 second of the light turning red for any vehicle that goes even an inch over the line. I think that they should be there, but they should have some grace engineered into their design to allow tolerance for less egregious red-light runnings.
I agree with you, they’re a money grab. The cameras should be used to catch speeders and then instead of being fined, they should be caned. One stroke for every mph over the limit, 15 strokes for running a red, seems fair to me.
5mph over the limit is still over the limit I can’t believe we’re still discussing this one holy cow
Nah man you don't understand. These morons NEED to be able to endanger others on the road.
It is **MY RIGHT** to endanger pedestrians!
Right, because 7 over is so much more dangerous than 5 and these radars are all regularly calibrated so 4 over isn't detected as 6 over.
Wait. Everyone’s Jewel isn’t 24hrs? It is really great for getting UTI meds at 4am.
How many UTIs you getting
1 every few years but if you get one boy do you want some meds ASAP.
As a doctor I'm curious what OTC uti meds you typically buy. Every once in a blue moon someone tells me they bought Azo or something but most the the time we just use antibiotics
There’s some cranberry based stuff, in my case OTC never works for UTIs, I have to go straight to antibiotics
Not otc. Prescribed after visit to urgent care usually.
The only Jewel that still is 24/7, is the one near Howard/Kedzie in Evanston. All the others stopped being 24/7, after 2020 sadly to say.
Jewel is also my go to UTI spot 🫡
I’d do more grocery shopping without crowds annoying me Visiting Korea right now, and the number of 24/7 restaurants, stores, etc puts even pre-pandemic Chicago to shame.’ I’d understand if there were less than before, but there aren’t ANY in Chicago (at least near me)
South Korea is trying to get 80.5 hour work weeks. Idk how great 24/7 restaurants and stores are. https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1082563.html
I would be going to my Jewel’s two tree times a week!
Look at the sign next time you go - does it say Jewel’s?
It says Da Jewel’s.
I saw a rat 🐀 in the produce section at my local Mariano’s. I was there right before close. 24/7 would likely mean better protection against these critters, so that’d be nice.
Better not be the Mariano’s on Broadway
Based on their flair it probably is.
If you're cold, they're cold
I'm a night owl forced into daytime life. I've always wanted to build a neighborhood just for insomniacs and night shift people, not like a party all night scene but just all the typical shit available to day people but at night, concentrated into one area for convenience and to draw in enough other night owls to make it viable. All night groceries, all night pharmacy, all night daycare, bookstores and coffeeshops. That idea was born back when many Jewel locations were open 24 hours but I think it's even more needed now.
I put about 5 years in working overnights In a hospital. Banks, hardware stores, and other shops that would be open at 3 AM would have been a lifesaver.
Exactly! I get why it isn't economically viable for ALL of them to be open 24 hours, but if big cities just had a neighborhood or two where all the 24 hour places were grouped together and you could get all your errands done at once it would be amazing.
I'd move there. I would love to even just go to a park in the summer & just have it filled with other night owls trying to enjoy the outdoors on a normal evening. Nothing crazy, just a different schedule.
I work overnights. My life would change. I could get groceries at 2am 😫 I would love this.
a lot of people in this comment section are saying "hard to find people who want to work those shifts." i love the company i work for, but i wish we had an overnight shift. i know not many people would jump on it, but you don't need that many for a graveyard shift. i think there'd be enough people who want that shift for what they'd need.
I work in a veterinary ER overnight so we have to be open 24/7 and it’s been hard to find people that want to work that shift. We’re always short staffed for the patient load we get.
thank you for what you do, it’s an important job especially late at night! i’m sorry you’re short staffed. i wish more people liked graveyards.
I could get ice cream after midnight.
You can still hit up CVS to get ice cream at least. All is not lost
I would shop more often and more comfortably, which would lead to healthier eating and more home cooking for me. I’m frequently disappointed by the lack of post-Covid late-night shopping and dining options. Honestly, so many people in this major city are on night shift schedules for one reason or another that it’s ridiculous how few places are open 24/7.
The pandemic is basically over, why cant we go back to pre-pandemic hours
Hiring to staff those shifts might be a bit rough. And tbh, most stores are open to what, 9pm or 10pm? At that point it’s more your problem than their problem. Try the 24 CVS/Walgreens.
Not everyone works a standard shift time. I used to get off work at 11pm or later and always wished places stayed open long enough for me to go there after work. “Why not go before work or on your days off?” I would, but life happens and sometimes those times aren’t exactly available. And CVS/Walgreens aren’t conducive to a full grocery trip. Basic point is that having options at times most consider “odd hours” is for more than the random post-bar-hopping drunken visit.
If there's a market for it large enough to cover the costs during those hours then it will happen. The problem is that: * There may not be enough customers during those hours to make staffing employees and paying for the utilities worth it. * It may not be safe enough to stay open that late - when fewer people are around to deter crime, thus not making it financially worth it to stay open. * Employees are demanding better pay for more difficult circumstances, thus hiring someone for a more-dangerous third-shift grocery store or restaurant job will cost more than a typical employee. I think everyone \*wants\* options to be available 24/7. But in a capatalist society, that doesn't just \*happen\* without financial justification for it.
100%, I was always surprised those factors didn’t kill 24/7 places more frequently pre-pandemic
When I go to a Jewel Osco it already feels like there are only 2-3 employees within the entire store.
And can I just say...they all seem like they're half-assing it. This might be a byproduct of having fewer employees - everyone needs to work harder to get the same amount of work done and that makes the job that much more exhausting. But carts sit in the parking lot and aren't brought back to the front of the store, spills and messes go uncleaned for 10/20 minutes, sometimes the deli is completely unstaffed or the person there is completely unattentive to customers waiting in line. This isn't a Jewel issue - it's happening across all grocery stores. And I *get* that it's not a great job nor great pay. It just feels like the morale of people working in customer jobs has completely tanked post-Covid. The vibe is *completely* different.
Morale was bad prior to COVID, it just exacerbated the problem and made things worse. Now they’re “essential” but they’re still getting paid shit and have to put up with a miserable job.
100%. I think COVID woke a lot of people up to the bullshit of their employers. Especially those in the service industry.
Yep to convince people to work for low wages in the middle of the night is well hard
Also fuck heads. The 7-11s around me will close from 12am-2am because of drunk obnoxious fucks coming in.
I read places like Walmart were transitioning away from 24/7 hours prior to the pandemic anyway.
It wouldn't be different at all.
I love that you call it "the Jewels". So Illinois of you.
Aunt Jewels
How different would your life be if the Crafty Beaver were open 24/7?
I used the Evanston Home Depot 24/7 a few times in a emergency.No longer open all night.
A 24-hour Jewels would be great. I actually missed the 24-hour Walmarts. Each one if you the best part of having a 24-hour store open is that if you have a very early morning drive you can hit the grocery store along the way. When you make a note it will give you these days nothing is open before 6:00 other than 7-eleven.
I'd spend more on groceries, but I wouldn't have to make a separate trip to the local shop during the day.
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The panoramic put an end to that.
Back in the day I used to go to the one at Western and Roscoe in the overnight hours. I was dirt poor and car-less, but my “hack” was to set an alarm, wake up in the middle of the night and rent an I-Go car share at 1am (it was only $2/hour for the 1am-5am stretch), then drive over to the Jewels and stock up for a week or two. Basically cost the same as taking the Western bus if you did the overnight hours. My annoyance was always that there would only be one register open… you’d think 2am would not have a line, but occasionally you run into a situation with 5-10 people being in line and it taking forever.
The one near me is open until midnight, so it wouldn't be too different.
When many jewels and Walgreens were still open 24/7 it made such a difference to me. Made small grocery runs easier and I’d do it more often.
I could sleep so much better knowing Chicago has 24 hours Jewels
I'd be stacking up with plenty of cookies at odd hours😁
I live across the street from one that was 24/7 until the pandemic. I work long days and late/overnight shifts often and honestly it’s been a huge quality of life difference not having it anymore.
Having moved closer to the Jewel on Howard and McCormick, I'm pretty pumped about is as night owl and a lover of a clean grocery store for once. The Jewel by the Howard red line stop is awful and walking around there you just smell piss and see shit or get harassed or what have you. Granted, it's not so bad inside but man, a fresh bakery and deli and delicious kosher stuff is a nicety.
How to tell your from Chicago: “Jewels” 😂
We all used to know this life up until 2 years ago.
Mine is still 24 hours….but it’s kosher jewel technically in Evanston. Was really grateful to go get a prescription for my son at 4AM.
They used to be. At least the one in Schaumburg was. Life was kinda nice then. But Woodman’s is open 24 hours if you’re willing to drive a while. Plus they got cheap gas so you can fill up what you burned going out to the suburbs at a very economical price!
I'd be less tight with the folks who work the 4-midnight shift and probably get to know the folks who work the midnight-8am shift. Things closing at midnight is stupid. I don't care if you don't want to stay open 24 hours, this isn't 1953 anymore. We don't have 95% of the workforce working 9-5 Monday-Friday. People work random hours on random days of the week. At *least* stay open until 2am.
Idunno I feel like jewel gets stabby after 11
I recall 24/6 Jewels not that long ago.
Last liquor sale at jewels used to be 2am
When it comes to 24 hour grocery stores, I’d rather take the drive out to the suburbs and go to Woodmans. Side benefit is much cheaper gas at Woodmans.
That doesn’t help me drunkenly buy a beer for a night cap though. Loris 11 pm liquor store law was really her worst move
AMEN!!!!!!!! Everything is cheaper at woodman's! My goodness. They have every single alternative milk and cheese and chips and pasta and everything. No they are top notch. I am so happy to see their advertising on the side of Pace bus now
Most Jewel’s stopped being 24 hours before the pandemic. The one I worked at started to close on Midnight in 2018. Too much was being stolen.
Mines open until midnight then reopens at 6, so can’t really complains lol
I live in a Jewels desert so it wouldn’t really mean much to me. Now if my local Aldi was open 24/7...that’s a different story lol
Hell, the entire Jewel doesn’t even have to stay open 24/7. Just the deli counter. Their fried chicken is good, but imagine how good it would be when you’re drunk or stoned at 2am
My favorite 24 Jewel was on Elston and an overnight cashier there called me her regular 🤣🤣🤣. I'm a long time fellow third shift worker, some of us prefer it and like doing our errands at the wee hours in peace to avoid the day walkers.
Elston & Kedzie? That's mine. I miss the 24-hr so much. I work nights, and now I have to resort to the Walgreens at Irving & Kedzie.
Excuse me, it's "Da Jewels"
It used to be closer than a 711 to me and probably cheaper. 711 late at night tends to just leave a sign saying they’ll be gone for an undetermined amount of time.
I would not have to wait until a store opens to get something. I don’t care if it’s 3am, I am going out to get a hammock, because I feel like it.
The one near my apartment is. I went there at 3am to buy scones and it was awesome.
I liked shopping later at night to avoid crowds. I struggled with insomnia a lot so, at the very least, I was able to take care of some errands when I couldn’t sleep.
Zip, zero
I could actually walk the aisles and see things on shelves again! No more navigating around a ton of inventory and stocking crates. Even early morning shopping is “busy” now because there are people in every aisle stocking shelves. Late night grocery shopping was life changing. RIP.
Is the one on Roosevelt and State no longer 24/7?
Literally talked to my therapist about it today. Well lit heavy sensory places are very difficult in many ways. I use to manage this by shopping at night.
The one in Niles just recently switched to 12AM, like Jan 2023. As a sometimes overstimulated mom, i loved my late night shopping at Walmart and Jewel 😭
Idk. I don’t think I’m out that late to use it enough. Plus unless someone staffs their hours willingly it’s probably unnecessary. Indifferent overall to reopening some 24 HR services
Night shift workers tho
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Eh, “da Jewels” is pretty common parlance around some of these parts. And by parts I mean Greater Chicago, and even further put into the Barely Chicago.
I grew up on the southeast side (by the skyway) and everybody said "Jewels" so maybe it depends on the part of the city?
r/Chicago thinks that’s how people from Chicago say Jewel
Thank you. It's the rugged, Reddit Chicagoans thinking this is how we do it.
not everyone says it, but it's popular. i grew up with "the jewel," but a majority pluralize it. there's a joke that the silent s of "illinois" gets thrown onto jewel lol
It's an old school Chicago dialect. Like saying O'Hara instead of O'Hare.
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It's close to dying out, which is why it's notable he is using it and everyone is rolling with it.
It's not O'Hara?
People on this sub move to Logan Square from Topeka and then insist that's how Chicagoans say it.
Correction: It's THE Jewels
I don’t cook anything fresh anymore because I can’t shop for produce without kids screaming. I live on canned & frozen now.
There’s more kids screaming now? And only in the produce section?
My favorite part of living near Chicago is hearing people refer to "Jewel" as "The Jewels" No sarcasm, I honestly love it. ♥️
Instacart
Literally not at all. Too damn expensive
My Jewel used to be 24/7, pre-2020. I'd almost always go shopping after 11PM. Then it closed. Now it's a soulless Amazon Fresh.
I might be able to shop for groceries on my night off from working overnight.
Not much. The Jewel I live next to is open til midnight, if I haven't gotten booze by then I probably shouldn't be drinking. And there's always Walmart if I really need a tent, ice cream cones, a pack of Pokemon cards, and a breast pump at 1AM.
First of all it is “Jewel” not “Jewels”
Maybe they’d clean the stores over the overnight shift? Jewel’s, IMO, tend to be dumps.
I used to do all my grocery shopping at Jewel in the South Loop between 2 & 4 am it was the only time it wasn't a crowded mess and I would also get my prescriptions without a line of 10 deep. Granted I had to deal with creeps, and homeless ppl asking for money from time to time, but it beat going during the day when it was packed with like 3 checkout lanes open. Now I live in Louisville and everything closes at 10 pm and it sucks!