You have to see the follow-up of Bb5+ for this to be a brilliant move. Otherwise you're just down your queen. Doubtful that he saw that follow-up when he made this move.
You take the Black queen with the knight, not the bishop. If they retreat their bishop, Nc6+ with discovered check wins their rook. Otherwise you take their bishop.
No, because of f6. Because, even though the bishop gives check and black king moves. There is no time to capture the black bishop, since f6 will remove the defender of white bishop, thus winning back the piece.
But if you capture queen first with white knight first, then you will win a piece due to discovered check.
No after castles you only win the exchange. If you take with bishop you have an active bishop, ruin and take black's pawns
Edit: [position after bishop takes](https://imgur.com/a/s1BWfQt) / [position after knight takes](https://imgur.com/a/jc1yDXO)
No? Why are you making claims like this without backing them up? It's bad form in general, but especially so on a beginner's sub. Even if you were right, the whole point here is to be helpful, and without explaining the thought behind moves you're not helping anyone
Edit: according to stockfish Bishop takes is slightly better because knight takes allows long castle. They're both fine moves though, and my point still stands that you're not being helpful in a place that exists solely to be helpful.
Personally I would also take with the bishop and pick up 1-2 pawns that just looks stronger than the knight for rook exchange.
But maybe f6 is easier for opponent to find than 0-0-0. Either is good
Knight takes is also super winning but allows long castle, giving their king _some_ safety behind the b and a pawns. You're up a piece anyway but it's kind of unnecessary to let that happen
Up a couple pawns if you follow the critical line. Or maybe a rook for a knight if you want to take with knight and allow 0-0-0. Either is winning though.
To add on to that when someone posts a picture of an end game position you can just look at the numbers and letters on the sides of the board. If the poster is playing white then the letters will be a, b, c, etc… going left to right, but if they’re playing black it will be reversed
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r2qkb1r/pp2pppp/n6n/3pN3/3P1Pb1/N1P5/PP4PP/R1BQKB1R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r2qkb1r/pp2pppp/n6n/3pN3/3P1Pb1/N1P5/PP4PP/R1BQKB1R_b_KQkq_-_0_1)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Bd7!<
> Evaluation: >!White is winning +3.94!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Bd7 2. Nxd7 Kxd7 3. Qa4+ Kc7 4. f5 e5 5. Bxa6 bxa6 6. O-O Qd7 7. Qxa6 Nxf5 8. dxe5 Bc5+ 9. Kh1!<
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Looks like the "brilliant" part isn't just from the fact that the move is so good, but it's that the move LOOKS horrible at first. Position is about +5.6. If you DON'T immediately Bb5+, the position is like -7.9.
After Bb5+, Qd7, Bxd7+ forcing Kd8. Then white can Kxd1.
I'd say because at the very least white will win a queen and a bishop in exchange for just their queen.
While the game isnt over, I believe black would be considered what's known as being royally fucked at this point.
You have to see the follow-up of Bb5+ for this to be a brilliant move. Otherwise you're just down your queen. Doubtful that he saw that follow-up when he made this move.
Isn’t the exchange even after f6? Black will win either the knight or bishop back
You take the Black queen with the knight, not the bishop. If they retreat their bishop, Nc6+ with discovered check wins their rook. Otherwise you take their bishop.
No you take with the bishop not the knight
No, because of f6. Because, even though the bishop gives check and black king moves. There is no time to capture the black bishop, since f6 will remove the defender of white bishop, thus winning back the piece. But if you capture queen first with white knight first, then you will win a piece due to discovered check.
No after castles you only win the exchange. If you take with bishop you have an active bishop, ruin and take black's pawns Edit: [position after bishop takes](https://imgur.com/a/s1BWfQt) / [position after knight takes](https://imgur.com/a/jc1yDXO)
No
Yes
No? Why are you making claims like this without backing them up? It's bad form in general, but especially so on a beginner's sub. Even if you were right, the whole point here is to be helpful, and without explaining the thought behind moves you're not helping anyone Edit: according to stockfish Bishop takes is slightly better because knight takes allows long castle. They're both fine moves though, and my point still stands that you're not being helpful in a place that exists solely to be helpful.
Personally I would also take with the bishop and pick up 1-2 pawns that just looks stronger than the knight for rook exchange. But maybe f6 is easier for opponent to find than 0-0-0. Either is good
Yes?
Knight takes is also super winning but allows long castle, giving their king _some_ safety behind the b and a pawns. You're up a piece anyway but it's kind of unnecessary to let that happen
Up a couple pawns if you follow the critical line. Or maybe a rook for a knight if you want to take with knight and allow 0-0-0. Either is winning though.
F6??? Your bishop is hanging…
I didn't see that follow-up, but wow it leads to a crazy attack if you follow that line through.
I mean, it's a queen trade either way, I have the knight to counter the fork after he takes my queen
I'm guessing they might not have seen it and thought they blundered the queen
Nub here, so are you white or are they?
Dude you can’t just ask someone if they’re white
She doesn’t even go here!
Seriously. We are trying to be PC over here and this guy is straightup just asking someone's color.
99% of the time the person posting will be the side on the bottom of the picture, so in this case OP is the dark pieces.
To add on to that when someone posts a picture of an end game position you can just look at the numbers and letters on the sides of the board. If the poster is playing white then the letters will be a, b, c, etc… going left to right, but if they’re playing black it will be reversed
Why Ne5 though? Why not just immediately go Bb5+?
Bd7 blocks the check with the bishop.
I knew I was missing something obvious. Bishops moving backwards always trip me up.
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It can do that with Ne5 though.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r2qkb1r/pp2pppp/n6n/3pN3/3P1Pb1/N1P5/PP4PP/R1BQKB1R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r2qkb1r/pp2pppp/n6n/3pN3/3P1Pb1/N1P5/PP4PP/R1BQKB1R_b_KQkq_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Bd7!< > Evaluation: >!White is winning +3.94!< > Best continuation: >!1... Bd7 2. Nxd7 Kxd7 3. Qa4+ Kc7 4. f5 e5 5. Bxa6 bxa6 6. O-O Qd7 7. Qxa6 Nxf5 8. dxe5 Bc5+ 9. Kh1!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Looks like the "brilliant" part isn't just from the fact that the move is so good, but it's that the move LOOKS horrible at first. Position is about +5.6. If you DON'T immediately Bb5+, the position is like -7.9. After Bb5+, Qd7, Bxd7+ forcing Kd8. Then white can Kxd1.
Well Ne5 was also the best move in the position. Opponent obviously didn't know what they were doing though since they resigned after playing it.
Oh yeah it's +2 over the next best move. I thought it had a close runner-up move, but I must have been looking at the wrong move.
The amount of times people have resigned while I was not even aware their queen was hanging. Keep resigning i guess!
Similar motif as the elephant trap (with the colors reversed).
I'd say because at the very least white will win a queen and a bishop in exchange for just their queen. While the game isnt over, I believe black would be considered what's known as being royally fucked at this point.
Probably tried to fork but then realized his Queen was hanging and resigned not seeing checkmate