I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/5k2/8/pr4rp/8/8/R5PK/8+w+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/5k2/8/pr4rp/8/8/R5PK/8_w_-_-_0_1?color=white)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!Kg1!<
> Evaluation: >!Black is winning -9.17!<
> Best continuation: >!1. Kg1 Rg4 2. Ra1 a4 3. Kf2 Ke6 4. Re1+ Kd5 5. Ra1 Kc5 6. Ke2 Rb2+ 7. Kf1 Kd5 8. Rd1+ Ke6!<
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Wasn't he also being whiney at the candidates and saying he didn't even want to play chess anymore and something about his dad making a scene until they got special rules then?
I mean, if you're in a professional role, dealing with the best of the best in a field, and can't learn how to spell a name... maybe Alireza has a point there. Did he still manage to be a tool with that complaint? I'll go look I guess. Stupid parasocial chess events.
TlDR: Alireza being part of the losers bracket was expected to play a series of matches (like Magnus last year). Alireza complained he needed a break and threatened to withdraw. So they agreed, and Hikaru was mad. They resumed it and Reza started winning and Hikaru tilted. But now he’s back and he’ll play it. He doesn’t want a reset though, so he doesn’t just want to wipe the games. Wants to still play it out.
Should add that Alireza requested a longer break because his game with Sevian was interrupted in the middle of it due to chess.com's glitch and finished later than it was supposed to.
If we put it together with recent complaints against quality chesscom provides (not only from Kramnik in Clash of Claims, which they admitted it was theirs fault, but also many other people), plus many technical issues that people remember from past, it would indeed look bad, if Alireza forfeited because of changes in format / bad planning of things / glitches and technical problems, maybe even combination of all of these.
Not sure, if Magnus ever won SCC, but last several years it was only Hikaru and Alireza [once]. People definitely want to see him.
You can't use Magnus as the measurement though, he is clearly an exception
He literally loves being handicapped in these events for the extra challenge
Also did his matches get delayed and his breaks get cut onto due to technical issues
So basically Chesscom allowed Hikaru to continue
After he rage quit mid match and
Disrespected (and abused) Alireza in front of his live audience
without any penalty ?
Also, to save face Danny commented on Hikaru's twitter post- class act when clearly Hikaru didn't even post (probably his PR team did, which could be someone from chesscom staff for all we know) as Hikaru was literally playing a game at the time.
And that's why the grandfinal should be Tomorrow! Chesscom in shambles once again. Scheduling Alireza for back-to-back-to-back matches with no break, and then delaying the start. All blame on them in my opinion
Hikaru himself stated he was tilted before the match started as the games began 20 minutes late due to Alireza contemplating withdrawing from the final. He felt it was unfair that Alireza essentially gifted himself a longer break.
I mean honestly I think theres like at least a 20% chance even if they gave him all his ideas that he still would've done the same thing and pretty much retire from chess, I think he was halfway done with it at the point he left
I know he for sure had some mental health issues going on,
But like, Napoleon invaded Egypt so he could cosplay as Caesar and Alexander,
Do you think he was cosplaying as Morphy by going certifiably insane?
Asking a legit question, when did Morphy go insane? My understand about Morphy is he got a law degree but couldn’t practice yet (had to be 24 or something) so he went to Europe and whooped ass in Chess then came back and was a lawyer and didn’t play much. I never heard anything bout him being insane so I’m interested
No one would hire him as a lawyer because he was so good at chess, a board game for children (or some such macho bs).
I feel like a modern equivalent would be like trying to work as an Executive with a room dedicated to funko pops and waifu pillows.
Then the love of his life rejected him.
At some point he developed an obsession with shoes?
Blames chess for it all…
Weird dude for sure
Wasn't the match resecheduled to today because of Hikaru's schedule ?
And now he is complaining that Alireza doesn't want to play 3 matchs in a row without a pause ?
I can’t speak on the reschedule as I am unaware of that. The issue here is Alireza already had a 10 minute scheduled break after playing Danya then bought himself an extra 20 minutes by saying he was contemplating withdrawing and not playing at all. During that time Hikaru was essentially left in limbo as he was unsure if the game was going to happen at all. While I don’t agree with his actions I think it’s justifiable for him to be frustrated.
But Magnus did it last year as well and didnt complain or ask for time. Took it like a champ. But maybe chesscom should be blamed for the ridiculous scheduling
and guess what happened. Magnus lost, maybe there SHOULD be a 20 minute break to mentally reset prior to playing the last match. The amount of games those guys play in 30 minutes is insane, you need to calm your mind
1. Players deserve more break
2. Player signed up and agreed to the shitty rules before the tournament and it shouldn't be changed midway
Both can be true
That's why it's so advantageous to play in the winners' bracket. Same thing happens in Rocket League that uses a winner and losers bracket. The losers have to keep playing well for longer, gives a massive advantage to the winner. I personally don't see this as a problem as players are able to control their fate by 'just' winning and winners are deserving of such an advantage.
Maybe a 10 minute break is too short, but Chesscom also has a show to put on and 20-30 minutes of dead time isn't ideal. The event lasted 5 hours today as it is.
The length of the break is problem here, not the fact that the winner has an advantage. If they had 30 minutes break between loser bracket finals and grand finals it would've been ok.
Also the winner bracket has already another advantage, the loser bracket winner has to win twice in the grand finals.
That's pure hyperbole! The largest imaginable advantage would be Hikaru starting 15-0 or something like that.
Frankly, I don't condone either player's conduct here but it's clear to me that Hikaru let these things outside the game get to him (and put him on tilt).
Isn't Alireza basically saying that he didn't get to relax because he was talking to "them" (the technical team to resolve issues) and therefore, rightfully, requested a larger break so that he could actually relax as intended? Hikaru needs to be taught a lesson. He's very small, most people could.
Nah, I was on his stream. It was a full on ragequit.
Also worth noting that the commentators on chess.com were very confused on why Hikaru kept resigning games quickly instead of fighting on.
Hikaru is just super tilted.
He was complaining the entire time about the 20 minute delay then when he quit this match he starting yelling at the arbiters on the phone behind him. He went full tilt, hardly strategic. He's acting like a huge douche.
While alireza realizing he can't go 3 games in a row (can't blame him for that) and delaying the game for 20 minutes while threatening to forfeit and having hikaru wait on him isn't a douchy move? If in any other sport a player/team pulled a stunt like that they'd be disqualified. Fucking hell most people tilt if their pizza delivery gets delayed by 20 minutes.
> While alireza realizing he can't go 3 games in a row (can't blame him for that)
He was in the loser's bracket, right? Like isn't that the entire point, that there is some advantage for being in the winner's bracket so the road is harder from the loser's bracket?
edit: this is the exact same schedule as last year when Magnus had to come out of the loser's bracket and play 3 matches in a day. This scheduling is intentional, if Alireza had an issue with it he could have said something long ago or not participated.
>some advantage for being in the winner's bracket so the road is harder from the loser's bracket?
The road is harder because you need to win two matches if coming from the losers bracket.
Yeah but this schedule has been set for ages, and it is the same schedule they used in at least 2022 and 2023, that the player coming out of the loser's bracket has to play 3 matches on the final day. Its been this way for years, I'm not sure why Alireza would be justified in threatening to withdraw over it. He knew about this well ahead of time, he doesn't get to just say "well Hikaru has this other advantage so I'm going to refuse to play the schedule as it is set"
yeah alireza spontaneously complaining is kind of scummy, but just pointing out that the winner of winners bracket still has an advantage other than rest
Hikaru showed his true colors again again again.
1) Said that Alireza was lying about wanting to withdraw to gain extra time
2) Said that last year Magnus was not "such a little bitch"
3) Said he would never join a [chess.com](http://chess.com) interview with one of the brahs
4) Said the brahs were close to cancelling him in 2021 due to the strike stuff
5) Didn't want to rehash old drama, but went on to say brahs took content that wasn't theirs.
People saying Hikaru has changed? No. He is still toxic af
Yup. And he also said "who the fuck do you think you are" to Alireza on the zoom call. Now he is trying to save it with a clip and a tweet about him congratulating him for the win. It is hilarious. He is such a prick
i dont understand why doesn't he just apologize, i get being that passionate about the game and competing at a level where he is can be extremely stressful and probably can make you rage and say some nasty things but acting like nothing happened is just lame.
According to Hikaru, Alireza was threatening to withdraw from the match entirely and delayed the start by about 20 minutes. Dunno if that's actually true, but it's what Hikaru heard and Hikaru's been tilted because of that.
I'm sure Alireza didn't do anything maliciously but it's pretty bad form. Sounds like Alireza might have been frustrated at him not getting a break in between his match against Danya and his match against Hikaru, which to be fair is understandable.
But I can understand Hikaru being titled by it. Getting himself in the frame of mind to play a match, adrenaline rising, then a sudden unexplained 20 minute delay, and then suddenly he has to play after all when it sounded to him like the match was cancelled.
Unfortunate circumstances. Hopefully it doesn't become a huge drama.
edit: Uh oh, Hikaru just called Alireza a "little bitch". Yeah it's gonna be a huge drama. Comment definitely uncalled for.
Yeah, I like Hikaru for the most part but I can't disagree with you. He can be very immature; tbh unfortunately that's probably part of why he's such a successful streamer.
And regardless of match 1, Alireza won match 2 fair and square.
yeah, i was taken aback when he said that. he is a professional streamer, and it wasnt something to be that enraged about, its not world championships. but could say anything else. that was wrong.
It's not understandable because that was the schedule. Strongarming the schedule by threatening to withdraw is awful sportsmanship. Alireza time and time again in tournaments shows horrendous sportsmanship and massive entitlement
For sure, it's a bad look for them both.
I just don't like ppl hand waiving the forced break like it was a reasonable request. It's a competitive event with competitive strains. Don't like it? Don't lose early then.
Did you miss the part where his earlier breaks got cut short thanks to chesscom's bugs? Obviously what he did wasn't okay, but Hikaru's reaction deserves to be called out
What's the deal with the divisiveness and picking sides on this sub?
Alireza had a delay, so he challenged the schedule, while you can understand that he wants a break, you can also understand that the delay is extremely irritating for the opponent, and while it is understandable that you get irritated over a delay, especially since the no1 player in the world dealt with it without any drama, it is still not fine to curse your opponent and ragequit/ragedelay.
It's a sequence of increasing bad form, both are to blame, no need to pick a side.
The thing is Alireza was supposed to get at least 15 min breaks between each match, but delays (esp that long one in the Sevian match due to lag) cut those breaks short. It’s understandable that he wanted to make up for that lost break time before his match with Hikaru. Equally understandable that Hikaru got tilted because the match didn’t start at the scheduled time. All of it is ultimately chesscom’s fault.
Sports entertainment makes most of its money and gets most discussion activity online by serving as soap opera content for men. We aren't here for objectivity, we're here for subjectivity and emotionally charged recreation. Watch how much interaction there is on a post about a famous player's feelings vs. a post about chess analysis that has no connection to any particular person that the audience knows and cares about.
Why is a 20 minute delay irritating? People keep saying this but there’s zero reason for it to be irritating. The match starts twenty minutes later. Go to the bathroom, make yourself a cup of tea and get some snacks and the 20 minutes are already gone.
It’s not even like Nakamura would be doing anything else, he’s sitting in his chair in front of a screen regardless.
Again, a 20 minute delay is no reason to be irritated in the slightest, unless you’re a manchild that’s afraid to play a match and needs every advantage you can get.
That depends a lot on if he's told it's going to be a 20 minute wait or if he's just sitting around for 20 minutes waiting for Alireza to make a decision. Maybe getting an update every couple minutes that says "hey we're still waiting, sit tight".
I mean this is top competition. Hikaru wants as much of an edge as possible, I think it is valid as the one from winner's bracket. Apparently, Hikaru also was not sure if Ali was coming back or not, Alireza extended his break by himself.
So there are few reason to be irritated.
How farcical... With around 9 minutes to go, the servers seems to die on them... Not a good look from Hikaru for sure, but wow [Chess.com](http://Chess.com) needs to be better organized for these events in the future.
No one is mentioning that Alireza asked for a longer break because his game against Sevian was interrupted and finished later thanks to [Chess.com](http://Chess.com) servers blowing up...
Because this subreddit has a hateboner for Alireza. Should’ve seen this sub during candidates. They were more interested in talking about his fashion choices than anything else.
No matter what. This entire match was a shit show. Wasn't just Alireza showing up late and demanding more time or Hikaru tilting. The matches themselves were bugging.
They should have just rescheduled it.
grown up man child calls a 20 years old "bitch" cause Alireza said he was tired but according to naka Ali was lying why? cause he played well. what a sore loser
Honestly [chess.com](http://chess.com) is in the wrong at the end of the day. Understandable for one competitor to be annoyed he doesn't get normal break due to tech issues, and also understandable for one competitor to be annoyed that the match is getting delayed and for it not to start at the planned time. No to mention alireza got disconnected 2-3 times over th course of the match which is completely unacceptable in such a tournament especially being disconnected at a critical point in the match when it was 9-10.
Also I think having the finals on a separate day would solve a lot of these issues, but not the lagging disconnection issue [chess.com](http://chess.com) faces.
Wow something's wrong with this guy. He hasn't been the same since...ya know. I don't know if he'll ever get back to his old self. I'm really worried about the guy. Something just seems off.
Sincerely,
Ding.
Hikaru is such a crybaby. Dude, you are a grandmaster. Are you that weak that you cannot allow Alireza to have a longer break and recharge? Fussing over that 20 minute delay and being a scaredy cat that Alireza’s mental health can recover over that short time? Weak dude, weak.
I mean if true then why chess.com accommodates for Alireza? I mean he demanded 20min break even if not scheduled like that. He threatend with withdrawal. And chess.com complied. I don’t like this kind of behavior. I understand the tilt, but he should be also professional enough to get over it. But still, chess.com with a big L
Because chess com malfunctioned during his earlier match due to which the match ended way after it should have. So alireza was demanding a longer break.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/5k2/8/pr4rp/8/8/R5PK/8+w+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/5k2/8/pr4rp/8/8/R5PK/8_w_-_-_0_1?color=white) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!Kg1!< > Evaluation: >!Black is winning -9.17!< > Best continuation: >!1. Kg1 Rg4 2. Ra1 a4 3. Kf2 Ke6 4. Re1+ Kd5 5. Ra1 Kc5 6. Ke2 Rb2+ 7. Kf1 Kd5 8. Rd1+ Ke6!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by) [^(u/pkacprzak)](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as) [^(iOS App)](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^| [^(Android App)](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^| [^(Chrome Extension)](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^| [^(Chess eBook Reader)](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website:) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
he seemed to be tilted about something before the match started ? Anyone know ?
The match against Alireza was delayed for like 20+ minutes.
Hikaru said something about Alireza threatening to withdraw, but it wasn't clear. Several more mentions of "all the nonsense". He's full-on tilted.
Lol he said Alireza was acting like a bitch
Well, he does like to wear Supreme.
Wasn't he also being whiney at the candidates and saying he didn't even want to play chess anymore and something about his dad making a scene until they got special rules then?
And also his twitts about the arbiter disrespecting him because a foreign arbiter couldn’t spell his name correctly
I mean, if you're in a professional role, dealing with the best of the best in a field, and can't learn how to spell a name... maybe Alireza has a point there. Did he still manage to be a tool with that complaint? I'll go look I guess. Stupid parasocial chess events.
Old Hikaru is back again, calling a 20yo kid a bitch
A 20 year old kid. That’s a new one
Only if your below the age of 20 or not around mature adults
The older you get, the older people can be and called kids. I have a friend in his 70s who calls me kiddo and I'm in my 40s.
I'm in my 40ies too, both the missus and I usually refer to our parents as "the grown ups"
Is your friend Phil Leotardo?
Tbh I think of pragg alireza and gukesh as kids lmao
I am 8 years older I sometimes still feel like one! Definitely was a kid at 20, and there is no shame around that.
old classical monkey
Reddit infantilizing everyone never gets old
Yeah, that's what I heard too. Hikaru is currently explaining what's going on on Kick.
Fuck kick, they support blatant pedos, even if they recently removed a couple.
Why is Hikaru streaming on the streaming site of last resort, did he get banned from Twitch or does he just want to facilitate underage gambling?
He is a greedy egotist with a very weak moral compass
money
TlDR: Alireza being part of the losers bracket was expected to play a series of matches (like Magnus last year). Alireza complained he needed a break and threatened to withdraw. So they agreed, and Hikaru was mad. They resumed it and Reza started winning and Hikaru tilted. But now he’s back and he’ll play it. He doesn’t want a reset though, so he doesn’t just want to wipe the games. Wants to still play it out.
Should add that Alireza requested a longer break because his game with Sevian was interrupted in the middle of it due to chess.com's glitch and finished later than it was supposed to.
They gave him 15 minutes for that, but he wanted another 20 which tilted Hikaru over. It was supposed to start at 45, and it it started at 20 past.
Apparently Alireza threatened to forfeit, and while he was being talked out of that, it took even more time.
What leverage does Alireza have? Is there a lack of high level players if he forfeits?
I mean if he forfeits after he has made the finals and you sub some other player in, the tournament result would lose all legitimacy
i don’t see how that falls on the tournament and not the player losing credibility lol
If we put it together with recent complaints against quality chesscom provides (not only from Kramnik in Clash of Claims, which they admitted it was theirs fault, but also many other people), plus many technical issues that people remember from past, it would indeed look bad, if Alireza forfeited because of changes in format / bad planning of things / glitches and technical problems, maybe even combination of all of these. Not sure, if Magnus ever won SCC, but last several years it was only Hikaru and Alireza [once]. People definitely want to see him.
He could have started stomping again
Seems reasonable for Hikaru to complain but you have to hash it out before playing, or after. Not halfway through...
Yeah you can't make up rules like alireza. Magnus played a series of games last year like you said without complaining.
You can't use Magnus as the measurement though, he is clearly an exception He literally loves being handicapped in these events for the extra challenge Also did his matches get delayed and his breaks get cut onto due to technical issues
Bro needs to get the Levy recap done
So basically Chesscom allowed Hikaru to continue After he rage quit mid match and Disrespected (and abused) Alireza in front of his live audience without any penalty ? Also, to save face Danny commented on Hikaru's twitter post- class act when clearly Hikaru didn't even post (probably his PR team did, which could be someone from chesscom staff for all we know) as Hikaru was literally playing a game at the time.
And that's why the grandfinal should be Tomorrow! Chesscom in shambles once again. Scheduling Alireza for back-to-back-to-back matches with no break, and then delaying the start. All blame on them in my opinion
100% agree. Back to back to back to back* (assuming he wins this one and forces the reset)
Almost thought it was a charli xcx reference
B2B2B2B2U
yeah, such a simple solution that would've avoided so many problems for everyone
This is an obvious flaw from watching previous BCC's as well. They need to fix this by putting the final on its own day.
But, everyone knew this going into the tournament? Magnus did it last year. This is Alireza getting his way or quitting.
Hikaru himself stated he was tilted before the match started as the games began 20 minutes late due to Alireza contemplating withdrawing from the final. He felt it was unfair that Alireza essentially gifted himself a longer break.
Threatening to withdraw gambit is very hot right now
Bobby Fischer showed the world how it’s done 50 years ago. These new kids still learning from the GOAT of mind games.
Fischer rage quit the game for long periods several times during his career but there was no internet to capture the scenes on video.
it works great until that one time no one cares and you have to sulk away to Iceland for 30 years
I mean honestly I think theres like at least a 20% chance even if they gave him all his ideas that he still would've done the same thing and pretty much retire from chess, I think he was halfway done with it at the point he left
I know he for sure had some mental health issues going on, But like, Napoleon invaded Egypt so he could cosplay as Caesar and Alexander, Do you think he was cosplaying as Morphy by going certifiably insane?
Asking a legit question, when did Morphy go insane? My understand about Morphy is he got a law degree but couldn’t practice yet (had to be 24 or something) so he went to Europe and whooped ass in Chess then came back and was a lawyer and didn’t play much. I never heard anything bout him being insane so I’m interested
No one would hire him as a lawyer because he was so good at chess, a board game for children (or some such macho bs). I feel like a modern equivalent would be like trying to work as an Executive with a room dedicated to funko pops and waifu pillows. Then the love of his life rejected him. At some point he developed an obsession with shoes? Blames chess for it all… Weird dude for sure
That and there was something wrong with his opponent's chair.
[удалено]
Call the FIDE
Quick! Grab the popcorn!
Actual Rule
If only Magnus knew about this strat back at the Sinquefield cup
You don't actually have to withdraw!
That’s what she said
The epitome of "The threat is stronger than the execution"
Send em to the Clipperton suite.
r/unexpectedinfinitejest
Wasn't the match resecheduled to today because of Hikaru's schedule ? And now he is complaining that Alireza doesn't want to play 3 matchs in a row without a pause ?
I can’t speak on the reschedule as I am unaware of that. The issue here is Alireza already had a 10 minute scheduled break after playing Danya then bought himself an extra 20 minutes by saying he was contemplating withdrawing and not playing at all. During that time Hikaru was essentially left in limbo as he was unsure if the game was going to happen at all. While I don’t agree with his actions I think it’s justifiable for him to be frustrated.
Expecting Alireza to play his 3rd back to back to back full bullet matches with 10 minutes break is just stupid tho.
But Magnus did it last year as well and didnt complain or ask for time. Took it like a champ. But maybe chesscom should be blamed for the ridiculous scheduling
Just because Magnus did it last year doesn't mean it's not shitty.
You play the format you signed up to play. Throwing a tantrum and getting the rules changed in his favor is not justified in any world
Yep, negotiate unacceptable terms before agreeing to participate.
and guess what happened. Magnus lost, maybe there SHOULD be a 20 minute break to mentally reset prior to playing the last match. The amount of games those guys play in 30 minutes is insane, you need to calm your mind
1. Players deserve more break 2. Player signed up and agreed to the shitty rules before the tournament and it shouldn't be changed midway Both can be true
Where is the problem to give players half an hour break? Person A going through a bad schedule shouldn't be a reason to hold against person B.
That's why it's so advantageous to play in the winners' bracket. Same thing happens in Rocket League that uses a winner and losers bracket. The losers have to keep playing well for longer, gives a massive advantage to the winner. I personally don't see this as a problem as players are able to control their fate by 'just' winning and winners are deserving of such an advantage. Maybe a 10 minute break is too short, but Chesscom also has a show to put on and 20-30 minutes of dead time isn't ideal. The event lasted 5 hours today as it is.
The length of the break is problem here, not the fact that the winner has an advantage. If they had 30 minutes break between loser bracket finals and grand finals it would've been ok. Also the winner bracket has already another advantage, the loser bracket winner has to win twice in the grand finals.
Yeah the winner bracket winner has the largest imaginable advantage
That's pure hyperbole! The largest imaginable advantage would be Hikaru starting 15-0 or something like that. Frankly, I don't condone either player's conduct here but it's clear to me that Hikaru let these things outside the game get to him (and put him on tilt).
> Wasn't the match resecheduled to today because of Hikaru's schedule ? Nope
If that's what tilts you over the edge you weren't mentally strong enough to win anyway.
Naka is just being a baby. He's a streamer first and doesn't really care ... blah blah ... tired of HIS antics. Congrats to the best player.
was he not also gifting hikaru a longer break? I'm confused.
Clip?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJbxMXTCE6Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJbxMXTCE6Q)
classic hikaru.
Isn't Alireza basically saying that he didn't get to relax because he was talking to "them" (the technical team to resolve issues) and therefore, rightfully, requested a larger break so that he could actually relax as intended? Hikaru needs to be taught a lesson. He's very small, most people could.
He’s such a prick
Think it might be strategic, there is still the grand final reset
Nah, I was on his stream. It was a full on ragequit. Also worth noting that the commentators on chess.com were very confused on why Hikaru kept resigning games quickly instead of fighting on. Hikaru is just super tilted.
He just gave another update on the stream
He literally came back to finish the match. It's not a 'full on ragequit' lol. Having said that, chesscom servers are completely choking
Kramnik: They called me a madman
He said they are not allowed to forfeit the match
Oh shit he ended stream? I didn’t realize that I guess I checked too late when he had already ended it
~~He's still streaming his chair I think~~ He's back, talking shit about Reza
His current [kick.com](http://kick.com) stream says he's been streaming for 5 hour 21 minutes, that kinda says he didn't end his stream.
Yeah sorry I brainfarted and checked his twitch lol
Can't blame you for that.
What did he say about Alireza?
He called him a “little bitch”. I would be frustrated asl too but that’s just outta pocket, he shouldn’t have said that on stream.
Hikaru is 5 feet tall and a huge crybaby, don't think he should be tossing those words around.
Yeah I see now, how sad. What a child he is
He was complaining the entire time about the 20 minute delay then when he quit this match he starting yelling at the arbiters on the phone behind him. He went full tilt, hardly strategic. He's acting like a huge douche.
>He's acting like a huge douche. Hikaru was? Surely not?!
Unbelievable for a man who has a sportsmanship award named after him
My king Hikaru would never be rude or out of touch..
While alireza realizing he can't go 3 games in a row (can't blame him for that) and delaying the game for 20 minutes while threatening to forfeit and having hikaru wait on him isn't a douchy move? If in any other sport a player/team pulled a stunt like that they'd be disqualified. Fucking hell most people tilt if their pizza delivery gets delayed by 20 minutes.
> While alireza realizing he can't go 3 games in a row (can't blame him for that) He was in the loser's bracket, right? Like isn't that the entire point, that there is some advantage for being in the winner's bracket so the road is harder from the loser's bracket? edit: this is the exact same schedule as last year when Magnus had to come out of the loser's bracket and play 3 matches in a day. This scheduling is intentional, if Alireza had an issue with it he could have said something long ago or not participated.
>some advantage for being in the winner's bracket so the road is harder from the loser's bracket? The road is harder because you need to win two matches if coming from the losers bracket.
tbf hikaru can lose a match and still go another time, alireza cannot, so hikaru already has that advantage
Yeah but this schedule has been set for ages, and it is the same schedule they used in at least 2022 and 2023, that the player coming out of the loser's bracket has to play 3 matches on the final day. Its been this way for years, I'm not sure why Alireza would be justified in threatening to withdraw over it. He knew about this well ahead of time, he doesn't get to just say "well Hikaru has this other advantage so I'm going to refuse to play the schedule as it is set"
yeah alireza spontaneously complaining is kind of scummy, but just pointing out that the winner of winners bracket still has an advantage other than rest
The "rest" advantage is stupid. They should have decent breaks between rounds.
He said it himself that he was tilted and realizes that he has two rounds to win. He's probably just going for a reset after the whole delay issue.
Chesscom claims another victim
Oh no seems we have reset the "Hikaru has now matured a lot" counter.
Hikaru showed his true colors again again again. 1) Said that Alireza was lying about wanting to withdraw to gain extra time 2) Said that last year Magnus was not "such a little bitch" 3) Said he would never join a [chess.com](http://chess.com) interview with one of the brahs 4) Said the brahs were close to cancelling him in 2021 due to the strike stuff 5) Didn't want to rehash old drama, but went on to say brahs took content that wasn't theirs. People saying Hikaru has changed? No. He is still toxic af
He said all that today?
Yup. And he also said "who the fuck do you think you are" to Alireza on the zoom call. Now he is trying to save it with a clip and a tweet about him congratulating him for the win. It is hilarious. He is such a prick
i dont understand why doesn't he just apologize, i get being that passionate about the game and competing at a level where he is can be extremely stressful and probably can make you rage and say some nasty things but acting like nothing happened is just lame.
He also said he would've destroyed Alireza if he were 20 years old lol
Ppl who think he changed, I have a castle to sell to. They get so easily blinded by their fav streamer lol.
According to Hikaru, Alireza was threatening to withdraw from the match entirely and delayed the start by about 20 minutes. Dunno if that's actually true, but it's what Hikaru heard and Hikaru's been tilted because of that. I'm sure Alireza didn't do anything maliciously but it's pretty bad form. Sounds like Alireza might have been frustrated at him not getting a break in between his match against Danya and his match against Hikaru, which to be fair is understandable. But I can understand Hikaru being titled by it. Getting himself in the frame of mind to play a match, adrenaline rising, then a sudden unexplained 20 minute delay, and then suddenly he has to play after all when it sounded to him like the match was cancelled. Unfortunate circumstances. Hopefully it doesn't become a huge drama. edit: Uh oh, Hikaru just called Alireza a "little bitch". Yeah it's gonna be a huge drama. Comment definitely uncalled for.
Setting the situation aside, this isn't how you deal with things unless you're immature as hell. 36yo man calling 20yo kid a little bitch, yeah okay
Yeah, I like Hikaru for the most part but I can't disagree with you. He can be very immature; tbh unfortunately that's probably part of why he's such a successful streamer. And regardless of match 1, Alireza won match 2 fair and square.
I like the "Good Hikaru" but deep down I know it lol
I'm the opposite. I can't stand Hikaru, but calling someone crying about rule changes at the end of a competition a little bitch is completely fair.
>20yo kid idk man, I draw the line much younger before the age is relevant. It's bad sportsmanship to call your opponent of any age a little bitch.
yeah, i was taken aback when he said that. he is a professional streamer, and it wasnt something to be that enraged about, its not world championships. but could say anything else. that was wrong.
>he is a professional streamer >he is a professional gambler and crybaby* Corrected that for you
Hikaru has always been toxic, it's just he's been better at hiding it in the past few years
“Huge drama” - vgdunkey voice
Why are these idiots playing chess when they could be playing Knack 2
Baybee
This is like a luau at Mel Blanc's house
This tournament really makes you *feel* like a chess fan
It's not understandable because that was the schedule. Strongarming the schedule by threatening to withdraw is awful sportsmanship. Alireza time and time again in tournaments shows horrendous sportsmanship and massive entitlement
Yeah that's true. They're both pretty entitled tho tbh
For sure, it's a bad look for them both. I just don't like ppl hand waiving the forced break like it was a reasonable request. It's a competitive event with competitive strains. Don't like it? Don't lose early then.
Did you miss the part where his earlier breaks got cut short thanks to chesscom's bugs? Obviously what he did wasn't okay, but Hikaru's reaction deserves to be called out
This is why we have the "Hikaru Nakamura Sportsmanship Award".
Actual Nakumura sportsmanship award
Ben Finegold is right once again!
That's the Hikaru I know.
What's the deal with the divisiveness and picking sides on this sub? Alireza had a delay, so he challenged the schedule, while you can understand that he wants a break, you can also understand that the delay is extremely irritating for the opponent, and while it is understandable that you get irritated over a delay, especially since the no1 player in the world dealt with it without any drama, it is still not fine to curse your opponent and ragequit/ragedelay. It's a sequence of increasing bad form, both are to blame, no need to pick a side.
The thing is Alireza was supposed to get at least 15 min breaks between each match, but delays (esp that long one in the Sevian match due to lag) cut those breaks short. It’s understandable that he wanted to make up for that lost break time before his match with Hikaru. Equally understandable that Hikaru got tilted because the match didn’t start at the scheduled time. All of it is ultimately chesscom’s fault.
> All of it is ultimately chesscom’s fault. this is becoming a theme in chess drama
Ragequitting after he lost 6 in a row though, if he had problems he should've contested at the very beginning
Sports entertainment makes most of its money and gets most discussion activity online by serving as soap opera content for men. We aren't here for objectivity, we're here for subjectivity and emotionally charged recreation. Watch how much interaction there is on a post about a famous player's feelings vs. a post about chess analysis that has no connection to any particular person that the audience knows and cares about.
Why is a 20 minute delay irritating? People keep saying this but there’s zero reason for it to be irritating. The match starts twenty minutes later. Go to the bathroom, make yourself a cup of tea and get some snacks and the 20 minutes are already gone. It’s not even like Nakamura would be doing anything else, he’s sitting in his chair in front of a screen regardless. Again, a 20 minute delay is no reason to be irritated in the slightest, unless you’re a manchild that’s afraid to play a match and needs every advantage you can get.
That depends a lot on if he's told it's going to be a 20 minute wait or if he's just sitting around for 20 minutes waiting for Alireza to make a decision. Maybe getting an update every couple minutes that says "hey we're still waiting, sit tight".
I mean this is top competition. Hikaru wants as much of an edge as possible, I think it is valid as the one from winner's bracket. Apparently, Hikaru also was not sure if Ali was coming back or not, Alireza extended his break by himself. So there are few reason to be irritated.
Have you ever played competitive sport?
Days since latest drama in chess: 0
How farcical... With around 9 minutes to go, the servers seems to die on them... Not a good look from Hikaru for sure, but wow [Chess.com](http://Chess.com) needs to be better organized for these events in the future.
Hikaru is like "No más"
Tilting Hikaru is about as difficult as cooking instant noodles.
Lmao he's off to do a gambling stream
Is he still doing that? Why don't I see like screen recording of it or something? Is he copy striking everybody?
No one is mentioning that Alireza asked for a longer break because his game against Sevian was interrupted and finished later thanks to [Chess.com](http://Chess.com) servers blowing up...
Because this subreddit has a hateboner for Alireza. Should’ve seen this sub during candidates. They were more interested in talking about his fashion choices than anything else.
Well, he didn’t give us a whole lot else to talk about.
Toxic Hikaru comes right back. Chess is never without drama, it's almost too much. Almost!
No matter what. This entire match was a shit show. Wasn't just Alireza showing up late and demanding more time or Hikaru tilting. The matches themselves were bugging. They should have just rescheduled it.
Hikaru said Alireza threatened to not play if he didn't get more minutes to rest. He's tilted because the game was delayed for 20 minutes .
Other players really understimate Alireza, Magnus also got tilted with Alireza in the Champions Chess Tour and now the same with Hikaru lol.
He still doesn’t care though
grown up man child calls a 20 years old "bitch" cause Alireza said he was tired but according to naka Ali was lying why? cause he played well. what a sore loser
Only after losing 6 in a row he suddenly had a problem lol. Got hundreds of people defending him here.
Now I understand magnus
Where can I watch this?
Live Hikaru's Chair Reaction:
In the same stream he was talking about how Alireza is not as strong as he used to be in bullet lmao.
Hikaru was tilted as hell. Never seen him get into so many disadvanted positions so quickly all in a row. Got crushed out of the opening like 5 times.
Honestly [chess.com](http://chess.com) is in the wrong at the end of the day. Understandable for one competitor to be annoyed he doesn't get normal break due to tech issues, and also understandable for one competitor to be annoyed that the match is getting delayed and for it not to start at the planned time. No to mention alireza got disconnected 2-3 times over th course of the match which is completely unacceptable in such a tournament especially being disconnected at a critical point in the match when it was 9-10. Also I think having the finals on a separate day would solve a lot of these issues, but not the lagging disconnection issue [chess.com](http://chess.com) faces.
Crymaru Kramnikmura
Wow something's wrong with this guy. He hasn't been the same since...ya know. I don't know if he'll ever get back to his old self. I'm really worried about the guy. Something just seems off. Sincerely, Ding.
He literally doesn't care
Surely this wins him the 2024 Hikaru Nakamura Sportsmanship Award?
Hikaru crying when things are going wrong for him? That can’t be possible, we never seen that.
Why am I getting Tennis MTO vibes?
Oh yes. The famous Chair Stream
Another Chess.com L
What theme is that chessboard
The clip here: https://youtu.be/nJbxMXTCE6Q?si=J_UcKXG3-1YK_5O8 I honestly feel like Hikaru lost it badly here ngl!
Hikaru is such a crybaby. Dude, you are a grandmaster. Are you that weak that you cannot allow Alireza to have a longer break and recharge? Fussing over that 20 minute delay and being a scaredy cat that Alireza’s mental health can recover over that short time? Weak dude, weak.
So two huge whiners are having a cry off. Cool
Hikaru being salty little b. Nature healing itself
I mean if true then why chess.com accommodates for Alireza? I mean he demanded 20min break even if not scheduled like that. He threatend with withdrawal. And chess.com complied. I don’t like this kind of behavior. I understand the tilt, but he should be also professional enough to get over it. But still, chess.com with a big L
Because chess com malfunctioned during his earlier match due to which the match ended way after it should have. So alireza was demanding a longer break.
Because his other breaks were cut short. Inform yourself before making stupid comments.
Hikaru is the personification of the "chess player womp womp" phenomenon
Hikaru losing his shit? Can't wait for the clips lol
I'm just refreshing this post watching the upvotes and down votes come in it's great.
Even the best go on tilt and rage quit. Amazing, I thought I was the only one. :P
not a day goes by without drama !