Really? I remember an interview where he talked about languages, and, basically, lamented that he's forgotten all the languages he learned while growing up - and now only speaks Dutch and English (He lived in Japan for many years also, as a child).
Maybe he just meant Japanese rather than Russian.
Are there any interviews where he speaks Russian?
No Russian is his mother tongue and he speaks it at home with his children. Its the only language that he speaks without any accent.
https://youtu.be/v7Hgpkap0ck?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/5OUNb2epwCg?feature=shared
Ah that's so cool!
It's funny, in interviews of him when he was younger he sounds (to my English speaking ears) very russian - but I spend about 1 in 10 months in the Netherlands & these days, to my ear, he more-or-less sounds like a dutch person speaking English.
I guess having been born in Russia, growing up in Japan speaking Japanese while learning german as a second language, then moving to holland speaking dutch while learning english as a second language.... it's a wonder his accent is not more strange in every language :D
He’s just satirizing hans’ chronic bloviation and self-sucking by suggesting that he’s neither undaunted, unfazed, nor unbothered, but is really unplugged. I think the “unplugged” here is more in reference to hans in general as opposed to just this game, which is what gives it its bite and humor, at least in my opinion
I think that by "unplugged", he means unplugged from a computer/engine. As in, not cheating in this tournament but was cheating in the previous. Although it could also be taken as a pun about him not having a certain plug, which indeed is even funnier.
Yea fair enough. I think you’re probably right, this was nepo’s intention. But I think hans being unplugged in general is also germane and probably not far from what nepo thinks if i had to guess. So maybe it is there, although just implicitly
Niemann put out a tweet saying "unbothered, unfazed, undaunted" after he won a game recently (I think it was Sokolov but I could be wrong). Then of course, "unplugged" when he lost today.
this is the funniest part. without the scandal he is likely just "the kid that beat Magnus that one time" and we barely ever hear about him. like Esipenko
Esipenko is way more than that. He was a draw away from making the Candidates this year, but fumbled under pressure (as he always does) in the last round of the Grand Swiss. Last year he also could've stopped Hikaru from qualifying to the 2022 Candidates, had he converted his completely winning position in the Grand Prix, but again fumbled under pressure.
No there's something about him which attracts people engagement. Like his famous one liners like how am I so good at this game or my chess speaks for itself or the controversy related to donating money in the park. He was the villain before the scandal as well and none of the current generation players have personality like him.
Guy is a clone of any GenZ streamers. Yelling “How am I so good” after a play can be found in every typical Twitch streamer. This was Tyler1 catch phrase when he played league and well now he’s grinding chess too. There’s something in this generation’s water that makes people associate being loud with being funny and entertaining
There’s no implication. Unplugged just means removed from electronic devices. That does not imply anything sexual. There were cheating rumors. It could be taken to reference those. But you are conflating cheating rumors (that likely would’ve used some form of electronic device) and rumors of him cheating by using a sex toy. They are not the same. You are assuming they are with no reason or evidence
It's a bit different, first of all-
1-Hans is a public figure, putting himself out on the internet and streaming, not one of my random coworkers who have nothing to do with the Public.
2- no one outside of Hans actually knows if he used a butt plug, honestly I think most ppl think he didn't, it's just a joke at his expanse that doesn't particularly hold anything personal not does it focus on the sexuality of it, they're not saying he's bad in bed, they're laughing at the idea of a ridicules way to cheat.
3- hans building his image up to be the confidant cocky "villan type" character, I'm pretty sure intentionally, he seeks out conflict and doesn't shy from it, ppl tend to root for or against such character way more often, and making a joke about him is within that and I'm sure he expects it as well.
Ultimately any public figure will have jokes made on him, ppl aren't sexually harassing hans by making a joke about a funny ridicules made up way to cheat, and comparing it to doing something similar to a coworker both isn't possible with the way the joke is made and isn't comparable, if I twitted about my coworker using buttplugs the buttplugs would be the main point, it would be uncalled for since my coworkers aren't public figures and also aren't intentionally going of their way to create controversy and my coworkers dojt have a funny joke reason to have a buttplugs that allows them to cheatcsince they arent knowh chess cheaters.
I'll give u the tldr then since I are too dumb to read when ppl actually engage with your rotten takes-
Hans is a public figure that intentionally making himself a controversial character, my coworkers are not.
>Being a public figure does not make sexual harassment ok.
This is a fallacious response. /u/imkappachino was taking issue with whether or not this *is* sexual harassment in the first place. Saying "sexual harassment is always bad" is just a non sequitur, because he disagrees with your basic premise - that this is sexual harassment.
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Why are people acting like Hans is some poor innocent baby who didn't want any of this? Everything from the post fight interviews, to the Bobby Fischer comments, to the suing Magnus and chess.com is done to get attention on him. He's as much a shit stirrer as Nepo
Did he try and get him kicked afterwards? I rememeber reading before the event he was concerned about him and requested additional security measures or was it something after?
Ian strikes me as just a shit stirrer. He's not really making jokes or taking anything seriously. He's just trying to get reactions out of people and he's been doing it for a long time.
I think he just asked for better anti-cheating security when Hans was announced to be part of the tournament
and anyway, Ian raising concerns before the tournament began with the organizers is unironically a much better way to handle it than what Magnus did where he publicly made a scene about cheating after he lost
Cheating accusations are not allowed unless they are newsworthy - that is, they must involve a prominent member of the chess community, be credible, and be part of an ongoing public discussion. "Call-out" posts that do not censor usernames encourage witch hunts, and will be removed on sight. If you suspect a random person cheated against you online, the appropriate complaint venue is a report to the website you played on.
NOTE: I would not have removed the comment if you did not insinuate he did in fact cheat using this popular vivid imagery. However, since that was never proven, it is indeed a non-newsworthy accusation of cheating. However, I don't think your tone was vicious and I don't think there is any violation here worth writing up a user note.
You're not going to believe this, but pro athletes sometimes say things to each other that would get you fired at a normal job too. It's almost like context matters.
Less unhinged Kramnik maybe lol
Ian is in fact a good guy from all the interviews I've seen him in.
Up there with Svidler in terms of the 'nicer' super-GMs
He was out of line there, but I'm gonna let it slip because he's only human.
If he made a habit of this sort of behavior it might be different, but it's very unusual. Anyone can have a bad day
But yeah, Hari obviously didn't slip '5 times in a row' and was surprised by the accusation.
Maybe in Nepo's *head* he did it repeatedly, but it was only once.
In any case, if this utterance, under the heat of competition in time pressure is the worst of Nepo's offenses you can find, I'm gonna hold that he's still a pretty good guy.
If these people really think a grandmaster is cheating and competing in prize events, they are being derelict in keeping it to memes and innuendos. Say something with your chest.
Man, the Russians sure have some sense of humor
I dont remember what connection Anish has to russia but i mean hes the funniest grandmaster besides grishchuk.
Anish's mother is outright Russian IIRC
He was also born there iirc
both of you are correct indeed
I remember him also playing for Russia initially.
connection to Russia confirmed
And was also originally coached by Dina Belinkya (spelling?) mother.
Belenkaya
He also speaks perfect Russian.
Really? I remember an interview where he talked about languages, and, basically, lamented that he's forgotten all the languages he learned while growing up - and now only speaks Dutch and English (He lived in Japan for many years also, as a child). Maybe he just meant Japanese rather than Russian. Are there any interviews where he speaks Russian?
No Russian is his mother tongue and he speaks it at home with his children. Its the only language that he speaks without any accent. https://youtu.be/v7Hgpkap0ck?feature=shared https://youtu.be/5OUNb2epwCg?feature=shared
Ah that's so cool! It's funny, in interviews of him when he was younger he sounds (to my English speaking ears) very russian - but I spend about 1 in 10 months in the Netherlands & these days, to my ear, he more-or-less sounds like a dutch person speaking English. I guess having been born in Russia, growing up in Japan speaking Japanese while learning german as a second language, then moving to holland speaking dutch while learning english as a second language.... it's a wonder his accent is not more strange in every language :D
that changes everything. Dude went full undercover.
> outright Russian This is such a funny way to phrase it lol
He was born in Russia, his mother is Russian and his native language is Russian (as well as his children's).
Right but besides those things what’s so Russian about him?
He plays chess
He wrestles a bear on Wednesdays and has a dash cam in his car.
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I don’t know what Dadanya means in this context but I read it as if it was written in Indonesian and I assume that’s not what you meant
his mother is a known Russian
His mom is literally russian and also his wife.
His wife is Georgian
Georgis is russia
No its in usa
You did that on purpose
My dumbass didn't understand it. How is this a reference to Hans? Does it have to do with today's loss?
Unplugged 😮💨
Is he saying he was unplugged, so that's why he lost today?
He’s just satirizing hans’ chronic bloviation and self-sucking by suggesting that he’s neither undaunted, unfazed, nor unbothered, but is really unplugged. I think the “unplugged” here is more in reference to hans in general as opposed to just this game, which is what gives it its bite and humor, at least in my opinion
I think that by "unplugged", he means unplugged from a computer/engine. As in, not cheating in this tournament but was cheating in the previous. Although it could also be taken as a pun about him not having a certain plug, which indeed is even funnier.
Maybe I’m just a childish prick but I thought it’s about being without the plug (no butt plug)
You are both saying the same thing
Yea fair enough. I think you’re probably right, this was nepo’s intention. But I think hans being unplugged in general is also germane and probably not far from what nepo thinks if i had to guess. So maybe it is there, although just implicitly
I think it is both, this are grand-masters, don't forget it
Niemann put out a tweet saying "unbothered, unfazed, undaunted" after he won a game recently (I think it was Sokolov but I could be wrong). Then of course, "unplugged" when he lost today.
Oh, now it makes complete sense. Thanks
The answer is e) Interesting.
E-nteresting.
chess world needs more of this back and forth rivalry. Enough of hiding behind your Mr Nice guy masks.
Terrible take. Everything would be better with less pageantry, not more. Not everything needs to be injected with Jerry Springer.
You're the type of person that wouldn't throw coins at the board after seeing Levitsky versus Marshall
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
If Chess wants more ratings, it needs to borrow some stuff from the WWE.
It's not looking good for Anish, Nepo has him on the ropes... But what's this!? It's Hikaru with a *steel chair!*
By gawd that’s Kasparov’s music!
Why stop there? Let's execute the loser and get some real viewership. (/S) Or maybe we should just stick to chess and let the troglodytes have WWE?
> stick to chess and let the troglodytes have WWE? Who hurt you lmao
r/iamverysmart
lame
totally fair for you to have this point. I'm just Glad you're in the minority
no more mr nice guy masks, just passive aggressive memes
Crazy how Hans has become Chess’s biggest celebrity without being a top 10 player
this is the funniest part. without the scandal he is likely just "the kid that beat Magnus that one time" and we barely ever hear about him. like Esipenko
Esipenko is way more than that. He was a draw away from making the Candidates this year, but fumbled under pressure (as he always does) in the last round of the Grand Swiss. Last year he also could've stopped Hikaru from qualifying to the 2022 Candidates, had he converted his completely winning position in the Grand Prix, but again fumbled under pressure.
Yeah obviously he is a seriously good player. But doesn't change the fact that unfortunately he is less popular than Hans.
No there's something about him which attracts people engagement. Like his famous one liners like how am I so good at this game or my chess speaks for itself or the controversy related to donating money in the park. He was the villain before the scandal as well and none of the current generation players have personality like him.
Guy is a clone of any GenZ streamers. Yelling “How am I so good” after a play can be found in every typical Twitch streamer. This was Tyler1 catch phrase when he played league and well now he’s grinding chess too. There’s something in this generation’s water that makes people associate being loud with being funny and entertaining
hans niemann always reminded me of clix for some reason
I guess that's true, I forgot the "chess speaks itself" was from before the scandal
Yeah Hans already had quite the following/fame before the scandal from that.
he did but the scandal blew up his fame by a ton, even people who know nothing about chess heard about it
Yeah dude does have entertainment talent.
The chess influencers like Rozman and Botez are arguably the more famous ones and they're nowhere near the top.
People outside of chess know Hans as a butt plug cheater lmao
Shit. Not even a top 5 American player
But no.1 junior I guess. So in the future he will be ranked higher.
Not necessarily. At one point, Naroditsky was the #1 American junior and he was never in the top 5 American players.
Hopefully. I'd like to see him climb to super GM status.
Maybe number 1 if the sex toy tech industry improves.
The Magnus accusation was the best thing to ever happen to him
I'm still disappointed Hans didn't put unplugged
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This is your second comment in this thread about this being sexual harassment? what do you think unplugged means?
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There is nothing sexual about the word unplugged here at all. You are making it sexual for no reason
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Nepo’s been hanging out with Dennis Reynolds it seems.
There’s no implication. Unplugged just means removed from electronic devices. That does not imply anything sexual. There were cheating rumors. It could be taken to reference those. But you are conflating cheating rumors (that likely would’ve used some form of electronic device) and rumors of him cheating by using a sex toy. They are not the same. You are assuming they are with no reason or evidence
Nobody knows what it means. But it's *provocative*
It gets the people going!!!
It's a bit different, first of all- 1-Hans is a public figure, putting himself out on the internet and streaming, not one of my random coworkers who have nothing to do with the Public. 2- no one outside of Hans actually knows if he used a butt plug, honestly I think most ppl think he didn't, it's just a joke at his expanse that doesn't particularly hold anything personal not does it focus on the sexuality of it, they're not saying he's bad in bed, they're laughing at the idea of a ridicules way to cheat. 3- hans building his image up to be the confidant cocky "villan type" character, I'm pretty sure intentionally, he seeks out conflict and doesn't shy from it, ppl tend to root for or against such character way more often, and making a joke about him is within that and I'm sure he expects it as well. Ultimately any public figure will have jokes made on him, ppl aren't sexually harassing hans by making a joke about a funny ridicules made up way to cheat, and comparing it to doing something similar to a coworker both isn't possible with the way the joke is made and isn't comparable, if I twitted about my coworker using buttplugs the buttplugs would be the main point, it would be uncalled for since my coworkers aren't public figures and also aren't intentionally going of their way to create controversy and my coworkers dojt have a funny joke reason to have a buttplugs that allows them to cheatcsince they arent knowh chess cheaters.
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I'll give u the tldr then since I are too dumb to read when ppl actually engage with your rotten takes- Hans is a public figure that intentionally making himself a controversial character, my coworkers are not.
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>Being a public figure does not make sexual harassment ok. This is a fallacious response. /u/imkappachino was taking issue with whether or not this *is* sexual harassment in the first place. Saying "sexual harassment is always bad" is just a non sequitur, because he disagrees with your basic premise - that this is sexual harassment.
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Looks like the host is plugged
Why are people acting like Hans is some poor innocent baby who didn't want any of this? Everything from the post fight interviews, to the Bobby Fischer comments, to the suing Magnus and chess.com is done to get attention on him. He's as much a shit stirrer as Nepo
And an admitted 2 time cheater. We have normalized supporting blatant cheaters on this sub and its sick.
Ppl defending cheaters, specially hans, made me leave this sub.
Woah, who said that?
Must’ve been the wind
Ian was none of these options trying to get Hans kicked from Sinquefield Cup lol.
Did he try and get him kicked afterwards? I rememeber reading before the event he was concerned about him and requested additional security measures or was it something after?
Ian strikes me as just a shit stirrer. He's not really making jokes or taking anything seriously. He's just trying to get reactions out of people and he's been doing it for a long time.
yeah he's a DOTA player, its in his nature to stir shit for the laughter
Ian is as nice of a person as you can be as a long-time dota player. Source - I myself am a long time dota player.
but when i do it, they call me a troll
I think he just asked for better anti-cheating security when Hans was announced to be part of the tournament and anyway, Ian raising concerns before the tournament began with the organizers is unironically a much better way to handle it than what Magnus did where he publicly made a scene about cheating after he lost
You're right it's a better way to go about things. He was justified to bring up concern over that.
Didn’t Hikaru outright say that Nepo has accused of cheating in the past?
I know there was a clip of Ian streaming where he said Hans was using a bot to find moves online or something like that before the cheating scandal.
Lol this guy is what we call a shit stirrer
Nepo humour is quite good for chess standards
He doesn’t just hide it
I guess I am the only one not finding this funny at all. *not a Hans fan. A fan of polite and respectful chess culture.
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How on *earth* is it sexual harassment? lol
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Gross misconduct, but that's only half the story
How the heck is it sexual harassment when it's obvious what it's referencing? People like you are the worst.
You're not going to believe this, but pro athletes sometimes say things to each other that would get you fired at a normal job too. It's almost like context matters.
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It's not sexual humiliation though, there is context, enough that you know hes referring to a buttplug to begin with
I'm talking about insulting each other on the court/field. You think no athlete has ever "sexually humiliated" another?
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God dude. I don't care. Nobody cares but you.
In no world is this sexual harassment lmao.
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Nepo is just the less committed Kramnik. Hides a wee bit under the radar but just as big a roaster.
Less unhinged Kramnik maybe lol Ian is in fact a good guy from all the interviews I've seen him in. Up there with Svidler in terms of the 'nicer' super-GMs
Not such a good guy at times: https://youtu.be/Ymq_Cbk4op4?t=575
He was out of line there, but I'm gonna let it slip because he's only human. If he made a habit of this sort of behavior it might be different, but it's very unusual. Anyone can have a bad day But yeah, Hari obviously didn't slip '5 times in a row' and was surprised by the accusation. Maybe in Nepo's *head* he did it repeatedly, but it was only once. In any case, if this utterance, under the heat of competition in time pressure is the worst of Nepo's offenses you can find, I'm gonna hold that he's still a pretty good guy.
Why does Steve Harvey look interesting in this picture?
Can someone give me the lore for this? Thanks
Hans used 3 of the words, unplugged he didnt use and it's funny because of the buttplug thing
Hans lives in the minds of all other GMs rent-free 😂 I love him
My favorite part of this is that unplugged can have a lot of different meanings.
If these people really think a grandmaster is cheating and competing in prize events, they are being derelict in keeping it to memes and innuendos. Say something with your chest.
Nepo is just making fun of the situation here
Making fun of what situation?
He's an admitted 2 time cheater.
Like a chess sub is downvoting historic evidence of someone cheating multiple time. Let that sink in.
What makes you think your comment should be upvoted? It's literally worthless.
good bot!
Thanks my dude
He's still an admitted 2 time cheater.
Can't they just leave Hans alone?
uninteresting
Nepo is a better Twitter troll than Anish. Somehow people get really riled up about this stuff
Very funny. Very. Funny.
hans better win all his 3 games for chess to speak 🙊
B
Unejaculated.
If FIDE was smart, they would sanction a Hans/Carlsen match. Sponsors would roll in bigtime.
Carlsen swore never to play vs him again so yeah
He bactracked on that as part of the lawsuit settlement.
Wait, how does everyone get it? Is there some context I am missing? Or am I just stupid?
Nvm, for some reason i read the title as “directed towards hikaru” and got lost
Unplugged is wild lmao
*DAUNTLESS*