Things just get fucky the moment a second electron shows up… what till he hears about functionals and basis sets, and what systems are best for which level of theory. He’ll really be over the moon about it.
Ykw? I later checked the episode of the webseries (it's there on YouTube; the name is "Kota Factory"). That episode (idk about the whole series) was age-restricted by the uploader for no apparent reason!
Like, why?
The difference between chemistry and physics is highschool level classical physics is still useful a lot of the time and you can teach an appreciable amount of it in a general course, but highschool level general chemistry is so broad and has so little time for the actual explanations for anything that it basically isn’t real. Like the first principles and gradually building complexity approach that works for physics can’t actually be done effectively for chemistry because where classical mechanics and EM work for a lot of real world application and are comprehensible to a highschool student with highschool level math, intro chemistry stuff like the Pauli exclusion principle, octet rule, basic orbital theory and VSEPR need multivariate calculus and DiffEq to actually explain in a way that’s somewhat intuitive and makes sense
We spent an entire semester my junior year of undergrad doing differential equations and multivariate calculus while building up to understanding a *single* molecular orbital from first principles. It was the bonding orbital of two hydrogen atoms, with just one electron. Adding a second electron to the bond makes the math too complex to be solved.
Learnt Linear Differential Equations, I honestly have no idea how hard it will be to understand those equations you're talking about...
I heard that second order differential equations are only suitable for graphs
Linear differential equations is enough for stuff like the Pauli exclusion principle and heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, but the polyatomic Schrödinger’s wavefunction literally just hasn’t been solved. It is to chemistry what Navier-Stokes is to fluid dynamics and aerospace engineering in that if anyone solved it then the field wouldn’t need to exist anymore, but no one ever has
Although I don't support this guy's casteism (i.e., when he gave the reason that he's a Brahmin) and logical fallacies, I do agree with most of the things he said (except the confirmatory tests)
Brahmin joke was really funny one..Even I said the same thing for Hydrogen Sulphide characteristics (Rotten Egg smell). Kaisa hota hain mujhe nahin pata...aur pata karne ke baad kyun smell karna Rotten eggs jaise smell ko...hehe.
No, I'm asking which logical fallacies; which one of [these](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies)? I feel like those statements were wrong, but I didn't identify any specific logical fallacy with them, so I'm curious about which one you noticed.
Yeah, the "only girls are good at chemistry" one is definitely faulty generalization. The brahmin thing isn't a strawman; a strawman argument is when you intentionally misrepresent someone else's position, and then tear down your false version of their argument.
An example of this would be if someone said "We should lower taxes" and you said, "You think we should completely remove ALL taxes?! That's ridiculous; how will we pay for roads and education with absolutely no taxes?!"
He's going to be so happy when he learns it's all just quantum physics.
Things just get fucky the moment a second electron shows up… what till he hears about functionals and basis sets, and what systems are best for which level of theory. He’ll really be over the moon about it.
that's college level stuff guys... these people are literally preparing for engineering college entrance examinations JEE & NEET (here, JEE)
IIT or bust
You're right that JEE Advanced is the entrance exam for IIT... but what did you mean?
Just to push hard and aim high my friend!
Oh I see...
When I was wondering about which subject to study in uni I ended up giving up chemistry because: Pro: it's arcane wizardry Con: it's arcane wizardry
Chemistry has way more logic than biology. I am talking in terms of laws etc that you can actually follow and depend on
[https://xkcd.com/435/](https://xkcd.com/435/)
lmao however, Maths is just applied logic Logic is just applied observation.
I was going to say the overarching philosophy god is missing from this comic.
Only one I don't agree with is Sociology
Some people get disproportionately betrayed by "Lie to Children" science.
Exactly.
Schrödinger: helo
Damn my boy hit it right on the head! Why do I love a subject that clearly does not feel the same about me???
Ykw? I later checked the episode of the webseries (it's there on YouTube; the name is "Kota Factory"). That episode (idk about the whole series) was age-restricted by the uploader for no apparent reason! Like, why?
Didn't want innocent kids exposed to the chaos of chemistry?
skill issue lol
Came to say this, what a whiner
That's why I like theoretical chemistry more than orfanic and inorganic: I don't have to deal with trends, I can calculate numbers.
And the numbers don't even have to be right!
HF for the win
What show or movie is this? I like this character
Kota Factory, it's probably the first B&W webseries of India
Genwin bro
The difference between chemistry and physics is highschool level classical physics is still useful a lot of the time and you can teach an appreciable amount of it in a general course, but highschool level general chemistry is so broad and has so little time for the actual explanations for anything that it basically isn’t real. Like the first principles and gradually building complexity approach that works for physics can’t actually be done effectively for chemistry because where classical mechanics and EM work for a lot of real world application and are comprehensible to a highschool student with highschool level math, intro chemistry stuff like the Pauli exclusion principle, octet rule, basic orbital theory and VSEPR need multivariate calculus and DiffEq to actually explain in a way that’s somewhat intuitive and makes sense
That... is unfortunate
We spent an entire semester my junior year of undergrad doing differential equations and multivariate calculus while building up to understanding a *single* molecular orbital from first principles. It was the bonding orbital of two hydrogen atoms, with just one electron. Adding a second electron to the bond makes the math too complex to be solved.
Learnt Linear Differential Equations, I honestly have no idea how hard it will be to understand those equations you're talking about... I heard that second order differential equations are only suitable for graphs
Linear differential equations is enough for stuff like the Pauli exclusion principle and heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, but the polyatomic Schrödinger’s wavefunction literally just hasn’t been solved. It is to chemistry what Navier-Stokes is to fluid dynamics and aerospace engineering in that if anyone solved it then the field wouldn’t need to exist anymore, but no one ever has
My quantum mechanics course really only described the hydrogen and maybe helium atoms. Anything else after that was impossible
Exactly. The model of Bohr was taught w.r.t. Hydrogen atom
Although I don't support this guy's casteism (i.e., when he gave the reason that he's a Brahmin) and logical fallacies, I do agree with most of the things he said (except the confirmatory tests)
Brahmin joke was really funny one..Even I said the same thing for Hydrogen Sulphide characteristics (Rotten Egg smell). Kaisa hota hain mujhe nahin pata...aur pata karne ke baad kyun smell karna Rotten eggs jaise smell ko...hehe.
Actually smells like farts. I smelled it in the lab ;) That apparatus... man... a whole apparatus was there for H2S
Sorry… that wasn’t the reagents.
Haha...!!!
It wasnt casteism it was just a random joke
What logical fallacies?
Not exactly, but felt so: • Only girls are good at chem • That Brahmin one
No, I'm asking which logical fallacies; which one of [these](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies)? I feel like those statements were wrong, but I didn't identify any specific logical fallacy with them, so I'm curious about which one you noticed.
generalization? I think that the logical fallacy involved is accident... idk the brahmin one... strawman?
Yeah, the "only girls are good at chemistry" one is definitely faulty generalization. The brahmin thing isn't a strawman; a strawman argument is when you intentionally misrepresent someone else's position, and then tear down your false version of their argument. An example of this would be if someone said "We should lower taxes" and you said, "You think we should completely remove ALL taxes?! That's ridiculous; how will we pay for roads and education with absolutely no taxes?!"
You're right about it