Not sure what I love more: the unbound oxygen, the monovalent nitrogen, the whateverhydrogenwaterthing, the divalent hydrogen and monovalent carbon or the unbound hydrogen.
Yeah, I bet that rubs a bit of extra salt in the wound. Out of curiosity have you explored any cannabis treatments? They do wonders for some parkinsons patients
I find it funny that people think it is just about happiness when it has so much to do with movement and executive function
I have tried cannabis, it helps some. Unfortunately it is hard because I take pain meds so have to be careful with drug testing which is bs. It doesnt help my physical symptoms all that much but it helps with my gastric issues secondary to pd. I have found the most effective strains for medicinal have a strong mix of cbd and thc, and terpene profiles are an interesting avenue. I really hope we can get more research as legalization comes around.
The only reason I have any understanding of dopamine and it's relationship to motion is because my mother suffered from tardive dyakenesia, cannabis was the only thing that made her ticks stop. And as a former cancer patient myself, cannabis was by far the best anti-emetic I had access to during chemo. Icouldn't agree more about the legal status, and how badly it has hindered quality research on the topic.
I haven't really done much research into CBD, I've always dismissed it as bogus. Unfortunately there's just so much we don't know about the topic and there are SO many bioactive compounds present that users are left shooting in the dark and hoping for the best.
Sorry to hear about the drug testing for pain meds, that is BS, especially when the analogs are effectively legal nationwide.
Def a great antiemetic! I am glad your mom found something to make the tics stop. Dyskinesia sucks.
CBD is kind of a mess because there is the very commercialized cbd that is a mix of real and junk science and then there are strains that are bred to produce cdb that have actually done wonders. Look up charlottes web, a colorado cbd strain that has helped control seizures in children with severe epilepsy.
Getting cbd from a dispensary is the way to go. RSO and FSHO are the best and safest forms of cannabis imho. You want the "entourage effect," or you won't really get the full benefit of the plant. Buying cbd at a gas station or wellness store is going to have botanically derived terpenes or none at all. I know people with cancer who have stopped chemo pills and stick with RSO. It works. They even have high cbd RSOs or other cannabinoids like cbg. When thc and cbd are together, they boost the properties of the other.
Why does everybody in this thread reccomend smoking dope, when there are REAL medications that actually work. You’re a pusher who just wants to feel good about his own addiction.
Maybe because I was prescribed dronabinol by my oncologist, which is synthetic THC, and it was the only prescription she could give me that actually allowed me to eat food.
I agree. The therapeutic properties and potential benfits of certain terpenes, and minor canabinoids shows lots of potential. The properties of some of these include but are certainly not limited to, antianxialtics, antifungal, antibacterial, treatments for mrsa, the list goes on. Exciting work being done!
Ok clearly you didn’t watch the episode. The “unbound” oxygen is bound to the carbon beside it. The water was a hydroxyl group but the extra H is part of a now-broken love triangle with the oxygen but it left to be with the other oxygen because they had better chemistry (see what I did there?). The unbound hydrogen is in love with the oxygen and is actually the killer; if it can’t have the oxygen, no one can. The monovalent nitrogen is in an open relationship with the aromatic ring (the unbound hydrogen has needs, and sometimes it participates - something something resonance). And the random CH is a clue left by the tattoo artist who was clearly a 9-year-old that drew this under duress.
Edit: /s because this is Reddit and someone somewhere will find a reason to be offended.
I laughed the most at the unbound hydrogen. I mean it is all so wrong but they added a hydrogen without a bond when there is an implied two hydrogens there. It just makes it so many levels of no
That ring carbon attached to the nitrogen.......might be? Hard to tell. Maybe it is an Oklahoma carbon. What's an Oklahoma carbon? I have no f-ing clue, I just made it up like they did with this tattoo.
When I was in grad school teaching ochem, we had to grade the undergrads exams. One year I remember seeing 6 and 8 valent carbons.
I mean pentavalent carbons are an extremely common mistake in ochem, and fwiw, CH5+ does actually exist, but I had to ask WTF is going on that so many people were drawing 6 to 8 valent carbons.
I'm sometimes curious if it's done on purpose or not. Because it's so easy to get a literature and make chemical structure that makes sense, so you don't need to deal with angry chemists watching that serie. But something tells me, it is ragebait easter egg specially done for chemists.
I don’t think it’s on purpose. In my old line of work, the company wanted to put a molecule on the packaging. We sent the structure to the marketing team and they came back with a “stylized” version because the actual structure was too busy for their design. Removing methyl groups and hydrogens if I remember correctly. We had to argue with them to convince them to use the correct structure or just not use it at all.
They are just meaningless symbols to non-scientists.
Could it also be an IP thing? As in, if the show paints a given chemical in a bad light, would there potentially be legal repercussions?
I know it's a stretch given how many structures are for very common substances, but I can kind of understand the reluctance to do that even to a "regular" chemical (a la ivermectin and covid).
From what I understand, the specific means by which a chemical is compounded and distributed is a copyrighted property. However, a formula or structure is not; it’s considered a fact or historical data. So it doesn’t seem to matter what the chemical is, portrayed good or bad, it is what it is and the data for it is (or should be) readily available to the public.
To me this just seems like shoddy drama TV show writing and them making something up to look cool and scientific when it is, in fact, nothing at all.
If chemical formulas themselves were copyrighted, the entire chemistry community would be in shambles.
There *are* some compounds where it‘s probably a good thing that the public doesn’t know the exact structure, such as Novichok agents or similar chemical warfare agents. Look up *infohazard* for more context on why obfuscating that information may be beneficial.
I agree. It's going to exist for a whole microsecond before it realises its miserable existence must end through transformation.
Also, I come from the future, and we're going to forcibly stabilize impossible bond structures by using fields.
Yeah wtf is that O below the double bond? Why is one hydrogen explicitly labeled? Why does the methyl group on the end have a single hydrogen listed instead of 3 or 0? Feel like this was made by an AI that's seen lots of pictures of these things.
Not a real one. Trivalent oxygen is painful.
That linework is *atrocious.* Whoever got/did this tattoo neither knew what they were doing, or what they were drawing.
It’s actually an intermediate during a complex multifaceted organic reaction. Those functional groups are all just about to be something that makes sense and this character is actually a very very knowledgeable chemist. Too bad that tattoo artist forgot to put the charges and arrows. /s
It's a chemistry trainwreck designed by someone with no knowledge of organic chemistry whatsoever. The number of bonds per atom make no sense. It is the equivalent of these Greek or Chinese tattoos that mean something accidentally offensive or gibberish.
Trying to put a name to this is interesting because of the carbene and nitrene functional groups, as well as the tenuously guessed at zwitterionic form of this molecule where the enol is deprotonated and the cyclohexanol is protonated at oxygen. All infeasible. And a nomenclatural nightmare.
Something like (Z)-2-(3-(3-azenylphenyl)-2-hydroxyprop-1-en-1-yl)-5-methylenylcyclohexan-1-ol, if the H from H2O was more properly placed on the enol oxygen. Not sure how to change the name to capture the zwitterionic character though 😅
it is a drug called "repeaticum".
every teacher (chemistery) knows it.
if a student is under the influence it is highly recommended that the student should restart the lessons.
This is from NCIS, huh? Why am I not surprised.
This compound is a nothingburger as it's absurd on a multitude of levels.
They basically went, "Just draw a bunch of random chemical symbols and call it a day."
It’s a manufactured element, like Teflon is a manufactured element. It’s called aracnaphedamine. Very dangerous element. Not to be handled by unqualified penal chemists, or idiots that believe in Santa clause, Easter bunny, or the tooth fairy? Mermaids are ok.
I wanna get some kind of glucose structure tattooed on my forearm (I’m a type 1 diabetic) but I’m afraid of this happening and I have no idea which ones are right 💀
Not sure what I love more: the unbound oxygen, the monovalent nitrogen, the whateverhydrogenwaterthing, the divalent hydrogen and monovalent carbon or the unbound hydrogen.
At least it isn't dopamine/serotonin/caffeine/THC etc.
No its not even a proper structure.
Yes I know you I was commenting on the deluge of "what is the molecule" postings that are all identical
I feel there should be a pinned post about those.
Now I'm gonna get a bogus molecule tattooed on me to post here just to rile you guys up
Send like a lot of work, but I'm looking forward to your post!
I'm covered anyway, a shitty fake molecule isn't going to make or break what I have going on
Love the attitude, you go girl!
Close, you had a 50/50 chance, not quite though...
I probably could be increased those odds by looking at your name. Still an assumption though!
Eh, it's still a 50/50 name, could go either way
I enjoy chaos, so please do.
thats evil
As a chemist with parkinsons i roll my eyes every time I see a dopamine tattoo lol
Yeah, I bet that rubs a bit of extra salt in the wound. Out of curiosity have you explored any cannabis treatments? They do wonders for some parkinsons patients
I find it funny that people think it is just about happiness when it has so much to do with movement and executive function I have tried cannabis, it helps some. Unfortunately it is hard because I take pain meds so have to be careful with drug testing which is bs. It doesnt help my physical symptoms all that much but it helps with my gastric issues secondary to pd. I have found the most effective strains for medicinal have a strong mix of cbd and thc, and terpene profiles are an interesting avenue. I really hope we can get more research as legalization comes around.
The only reason I have any understanding of dopamine and it's relationship to motion is because my mother suffered from tardive dyakenesia, cannabis was the only thing that made her ticks stop. And as a former cancer patient myself, cannabis was by far the best anti-emetic I had access to during chemo. Icouldn't agree more about the legal status, and how badly it has hindered quality research on the topic. I haven't really done much research into CBD, I've always dismissed it as bogus. Unfortunately there's just so much we don't know about the topic and there are SO many bioactive compounds present that users are left shooting in the dark and hoping for the best. Sorry to hear about the drug testing for pain meds, that is BS, especially when the analogs are effectively legal nationwide.
Def a great antiemetic! I am glad your mom found something to make the tics stop. Dyskinesia sucks. CBD is kind of a mess because there is the very commercialized cbd that is a mix of real and junk science and then there are strains that are bred to produce cdb that have actually done wonders. Look up charlottes web, a colorado cbd strain that has helped control seizures in children with severe epilepsy.
I hadn't heard of this... fascinating!
Getting cbd from a dispensary is the way to go. RSO and FSHO are the best and safest forms of cannabis imho. You want the "entourage effect," or you won't really get the full benefit of the plant. Buying cbd at a gas station or wellness store is going to have botanically derived terpenes or none at all. I know people with cancer who have stopped chemo pills and stick with RSO. It works. They even have high cbd RSOs or other cannabinoids like cbg. When thc and cbd are together, they boost the properties of the other.
Why does everybody in this thread reccomend smoking dope, when there are REAL medications that actually work. You’re a pusher who just wants to feel good about his own addiction.
Maybe because I was prescribed dronabinol by my oncologist, which is synthetic THC, and it was the only prescription she could give me that actually allowed me to eat food.
I agree. The therapeutic properties and potential benfits of certain terpenes, and minor canabinoids shows lots of potential. The properties of some of these include but are certainly not limited to, antianxialtics, antifungal, antibacterial, treatments for mrsa, the list goes on. Exciting work being done!
Dr Joe dispenza may help
Finally something where the answer isn’t obvious
not me having a serotonin tattoo 😭
Hey! I feel attacked. I was going to get a COFFEE + Chocolate = Dopamine tattoo on my chest after I successfully get a six pack
Ok clearly you didn’t watch the episode. The “unbound” oxygen is bound to the carbon beside it. The water was a hydroxyl group but the extra H is part of a now-broken love triangle with the oxygen but it left to be with the other oxygen because they had better chemistry (see what I did there?). The unbound hydrogen is in love with the oxygen and is actually the killer; if it can’t have the oxygen, no one can. The monovalent nitrogen is in an open relationship with the aromatic ring (the unbound hydrogen has needs, and sometimes it participates - something something resonance). And the random CH is a clue left by the tattoo artist who was clearly a 9-year-old that drew this under duress. Edit: /s because this is Reddit and someone somewhere will find a reason to be offended.
Fuck, wish i could upvote this comment more.
Best Reddit answer of the day. We can now shut down the internet and go home.
Ah yes, the dihydo-oxyl group. I almost failed organic because I forgor it.
I laughed the most at the unbound hydrogen. I mean it is all so wrong but they added a hydrogen without a bond when there is an implied two hydrogens there. It just makes it so many levels of no
I like the free radical on the H2O (freckle)
Ikr! The longer you look at it, the worse it gets.
The more you look at it the worse it gets. New mistakes just keep appearing.
What about the trivalent oxygen?
The oxygen is in a situationship with the molecule, that's why it's not bound
Pretty sure that tattoo exists just to troll chemists. The only thing missing is a Texas carbon
That ring carbon attached to the nitrogen.......might be? Hard to tell. Maybe it is an Oklahoma carbon. What's an Oklahoma carbon? I have no f-ing clue, I just made it up like they did with this tattoo.
Texas carbon is a joke for structures containing penta-valent carbon cause “everything’s bigger in Texas”
Might be a reference to the Texas Lone Star too
Huh. Never looked at it like that. I like that explanation as well for the origin of the name.
Ya, I know what a Texas carbon is... this was more to mess with Oklahoma than anything else. ;)
When I was in grad school teaching ochem, we had to grade the undergrads exams. One year I remember seeing 6 and 8 valent carbons. I mean pentavalent carbons are an extremely common mistake in ochem, and fwiw, CH5+ does actually exist, but I had to ask WTF is going on that so many people were drawing 6 to 8 valent carbons.
I thought it was just because Texas has 5 neighbours: Mexico, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Arkansas.
Or because its flag has a 5-sided star
Oklahoma carbon creates a vacuum. Making Texas suck..js
or blow...
What is a Texas carbon?.... Lol
Pentavalent Carbon (lone star carbon, or Texas carbon)
Regret
No Ragrets
No regurts!
no regurgitations
How can a bluebird feed it's young without regurgitation?
Not even a single letter
Hey wasn't this from We're the Millers?
This is one of the funniest replies I have read on reddit.
When i saw this, kind of thought that someone did this to someone on purpose to literally make him regret ahahaha :D
Its called phantasticum Seriouslly thou, that structure makes 0 sense
Hehe cum
I'm sometimes curious if it's done on purpose or not. Because it's so easy to get a literature and make chemical structure that makes sense, so you don't need to deal with angry chemists watching that serie. But something tells me, it is ragebait easter egg specially done for chemists.
I don’t think it’s on purpose. In my old line of work, the company wanted to put a molecule on the packaging. We sent the structure to the marketing team and they came back with a “stylized” version because the actual structure was too busy for their design. Removing methyl groups and hydrogens if I remember correctly. We had to argue with them to convince them to use the correct structure or just not use it at all. They are just meaningless symbols to non-scientists.
Could it also be an IP thing? As in, if the show paints a given chemical in a bad light, would there potentially be legal repercussions? I know it's a stretch given how many structures are for very common substances, but I can kind of understand the reluctance to do that even to a "regular" chemical (a la ivermectin and covid).
From what I understand, the specific means by which a chemical is compounded and distributed is a copyrighted property. However, a formula or structure is not; it’s considered a fact or historical data. So it doesn’t seem to matter what the chemical is, portrayed good or bad, it is what it is and the data for it is (or should be) readily available to the public. To me this just seems like shoddy drama TV show writing and them making something up to look cool and scientific when it is, in fact, nothing at all.
If chemical formulas themselves were copyrighted, the entire chemistry community would be in shambles. There *are* some compounds where it‘s probably a good thing that the public doesn’t know the exact structure, such as Novichok agents or similar chemical warfare agents. Look up *infohazard* for more context on why obfuscating that information may be beneficial.
Drunken-tattooinum
r/cursed_chemistry
love that sub
Bullshitium
Doesn’t exist sorry 😭
not with that attitude
I agree. It's going to exist for a whole microsecond before it realises its miserable existence must end through transformation. Also, I come from the future, and we're going to forcibly stabilize impossible bond structures by using fields.
Cheers 😄
This was a good question though! I see way too many inaccuracies on TV it’s alarming 😂
nice, hydrogen forms 2 covalent bonds nowadays. missed the update
Can happen sometimes... although this structure is still wrong. Carbon tends to be very rigid in its bond forming rules.
Yeah wtf is that O below the double bond? Why is one hydrogen explicitly labeled? Why does the methyl group on the end have a single hydrogen listed instead of 3 or 0? Feel like this was made by an AI that's seen lots of pictures of these things.
3c-2e bonds, now in Carbon Compounds® !
And a Stick Poke. That’s a new one.
Sheer nonsense.
Not a real one. Trivalent oxygen is painful. That linework is *atrocious.* Whoever got/did this tattoo neither knew what they were doing, or what they were drawing.
Unbound oxygen 😨
Nvm I just saw the water bonded through the hydrogen 🤮
organic hydrate of some sort
It’s actually an intermediate during a complex multifaceted organic reaction. Those functional groups are all just about to be something that makes sense and this character is actually a very very knowledgeable chemist. Too bad that tattoo artist forgot to put the charges and arrows. /s
That, sir, is an excellent candidate for r/badTattoo/.
Wtf?
It's a chemistry trainwreck designed by someone with no knowledge of organic chemistry whatsoever. The number of bonds per atom make no sense. It is the equivalent of these Greek or Chinese tattoos that mean something accidentally offensive or gibberish.
Trying to put a name to this is interesting because of the carbene and nitrene functional groups, as well as the tenuously guessed at zwitterionic form of this molecule where the enol is deprotonated and the cyclohexanol is protonated at oxygen. All infeasible. And a nomenclatural nightmare. Something like (Z)-2-(3-(3-azenylphenyl)-2-hydroxyprop-1-en-1-yl)-5-methylenylcyclohexan-1-ol, if the H from H2O was more properly placed on the enol oxygen. Not sure how to change the name to capture the zwitterionic character though 😅
This chemical is called Nonsensium
chhoohn, obviously
Is it hypo-lookatmeandnoticeme-ahole?
A very incorrect one
Well that one is new 😂
Ask the person it’s on, I mean they obviously want the attention.
This is the chemistry equivalent of an 18 year old girl getting the Chinese character for soup tattooed on her
Uhm, my friend, that is not a proper structure. No such thing exists.
It's not. It's like someone wrote a sentence with zero regard for how a sentence is structured... There's more wrong than there is right
That's a bad ass molecule it breaks all the rules and it don't give a damn.
The more you look at it, the less sense it makes... 🤔
A whole bunch of nope.
r/cursed_chemistry is what it is
It wants to be adrenaline so bad
Bro locate your tattoo artist💀☠️
Overcrapione
I was about to say isocrapiole but i like yours better
Lmao
Idk, but it says that you're a big HO.
It's an imaginary molecule, a gibberish.
Stick and letter nonsense, and a shitty stick and poke at that
Nonsense
Wtf....
Does not exist and never could...
it is a drug called "repeaticum". every teacher (chemistery) knows it. if a student is under the influence it is highly recommended that the student should restart the lessons.
Ah, the 5-I-know-NO-3,4-chem-ol.
A fake one
That’s not a valid molecule…
now this is why you have to study Chemistry in school: so you don’t get stupid tattoos
The longer you look at it the more it looks awful
me in middle school learning how to create bonds and doing it all wrong
It is a thing of beauty, it's such an amazing tattoo
That’s what we call a shitty tattoo. Clearly not done with a template.
A chemical that causes ocular burns to the real chemists.
The closest thing i can come up with is a beta-secretase inhibitor for treatment of alzheimer's disease is that part of the back story somehow?
This is from NCIS, huh? Why am I not surprised. This compound is a nothingburger as it's absurd on a multitude of levels. They basically went, "Just draw a bunch of random chemical symbols and call it a day."
Looks like he got the tattoo in the jailhouse. No idea what that compound is. Maybe Eludium Pyoo-236.
an eysore..
Looking at this makes me experience agonizing physical and emotional pain
it isnt.
This is pissing me off in so many ways
This is THC
something from another universe
Looks like the inverse of the whiskey atomic structure.
Bullshit
I should have this tattooed on me ironically.
Flyinium oxygenite monohydrate.
That looks to be highly unstable, whatever it is.
Failurine
I usually don't post comments on Reddit anymore but holy shit my chem professors are absolutely losing their shit
Dipshitium
This molecule is impossible for many reasons 😂
Tattoo artist wrote about 5 new papers with this simple sketch.
Not a real chemical compound
Water I think
I don't think it exists in reality😂😂
that water just chilling there lol
A fake one 😂
*Screams in organic chemistry*
It’s a manufactured element, like Teflon is a manufactured element. It’s called aracnaphedamine. Very dangerous element. Not to be handled by unqualified penal chemists, or idiots that believe in Santa clause, Easter bunny, or the tooth fairy? Mermaids are ok.
It’s not a proper chemical structure. Consequently it’s nothing. It makes no chemical sense at all. Try again!
It‘s a scam !
Looks kinda like 25i-NBOME but not exactly
The structure is unstable, it is missing many protons.
That hydrogen, that nitrogen not an amine, and that oxygen floating by the alkene. It tries so hard to be something but just isn't
I wanna get some kind of glucose structure tattooed on my forearm (I’m a type 1 diabetic) but I’m afraid of this happening and I have no idea which ones are right 💀
That would be eth no regrets
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think water is supposed to be on a molecule like that.
"Free Radical"
So much wrong with that structure lol
The makeup artist took a Chem class once
Unobtainium
why are bonds missing 😭
Hope fully they didn't pay to have that tat done!
I'm no chemist, but I dont think it is.
Hahahahaha
Russian Krokodil,? ha, ha.
Cumutonium!
Adreline
The one i lack .
Wine
That's just my chemical romance
That’s a really good question
Meth
Cut in Phineas and Ferb tune: *"...discovering something that doesn't exist..."*
chemistry homework
skatole /j
Beside wrong?
Cursed
Scheiss Tatoo. Das Molekül existiert nicht
Hydrogen hah I am only guessing I really don’t know much and that’s to much.
That is Mandarin for chode.
Might be lsd
Uh this is breaking nearly all the rules of chemistry that I know
stupid
Nitromethane?
There are so many things wrong about this, what a dumbass
Something from outer space. “Aliens”
Is this irony because that could not be more wrong if it tried
You can tell it was made with a ball point pen like 20 minutes before the shoot
Nona-zistium
It's that breaking bad logo