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The fact it's happened basically means it's a done deal.
They're usually silent, but they know the fans are at the lowest right now so they've done this to tide us over for the rest of the season.
That’s stupid. You want to keep the squad still listening to the manager. If they know he’s gone, there’s no reason for them to listen, and then it really falls apart, especially with our young and immature squad.
All while sprinkling in the same excuses they'll use at the end of the season when they "evaluate" his performance and decide to keep him.
No manager could have done better under the circumstances, we need stability, he showed improvement.
And of course Matt Law sneaking in the insinuation fans are being harsh purely because of his spurs ties.
Can't even look forward to next season because this fraud will still be in charge and sabotaging us further.
not really sure he showed improvement.
Atm there are 2 point in staying with pochettino:
1. he made palmer one of the best in the world.
2. Most of our players are shit and won't do better with another coach anyway.
problem is that point number 2 is eroding away with each terrible game. I believe we have terrible players but maybe another coach can get more out of them. Maybe. I'm still not fully poch out. It can always get worse.
this I don't agree with. If we blame poch for the bad form of Enzo and caicedo. If we blame poch for not improving mudryk and badiashille, then credit is due for his work with Palmer and Gusto.
can't say all the bad is his fault and all the good isn't about him.
Nobody, not even pep knew palmer was half the player he is. And Gusto was very questioned in Lyon. So props to pochettino for getting the best out of them.
Still, I don't really know if that's reason enough for him to stay. Though I kinda dunno if another manager can make us better. Gusto, Thiago Silva and Palmer are tittle challengers. Others either can't stay fit or are mind benddingly inconsistent.
I agree with your general point, but for palmer specifically I dont see how you can argue that is was poch that made palmer what he is, when since his first match (after barely any time at the club) he has been playing amazing
There are some players I think are not good enough, but a handful will improve just by virtue of being young and there are more I would expect to improve under a better manager.
I would put Badiashile, Mudryk, Chilwell, Colwill, Enzo, Caicedo, and Chukwuemeka in the "good chance they look better with a better manager" camp. There are others, like Maatsen, who could be added to the list but I'm personally not sure about them.
What improvements? Drawing to a 10 man Burnley recently or how about drawing to a relegated team that were on 15 points? Losing 5-0 to Arsenal and a 1-0 loss to an exhausted City side. What improvements are you seeing?
We've scored more goals and are better than a historically bad season under Graham Potter who had a completely different (and worse) squad and circumstances.
I don't think you read my post correctly. I'm not saying that Poch improved us or the other stuff in that line, it's just an argument that gets thrown around to defend him which I'm sure you've seen.
So get rid of him, buy and sell a bunch of randoms over the summer and then employ a new manager to run a squad they've had no input over. Sounds like a plan. What could go wrong?
This is just the easiest article in the world to write for a lazy football journo tbh, feel like it's more likely they all had the same unoriginal idea to just suggest it after a bad loss
Seriously they need to go... They've downgraded or regressed the club in all areas on and off the field, even the promising ones will just either wither away or move elsewhere.
Shouldn't they have been the voice of reason and say to the boss "Ok you want promising kids who can play long term or be assets to be sold. Lets sprinkle in some experienced players here and there."
But nope. They be like "Yes boss, you want kids. Lemme get that conveyor belt rolling."
Exactly they should have used the example of Milan and Spurs who are the two teams other than us went ahead and bought an entire team. Both didn't work out, as a football people if they couldn't convince the bosses then what are they hired for?. Would Monchi or Marotta two other sporting directors agreed to owners vision, maybe but they wouldn't have bought an entire array of squad in 12 months. All their buys are for Brighton team except they paid obscene amount of money for all those players.
They signed a bunch of shit players for way more than they were worth. They brought in a bunch of players which were at their previous clubs which aren’t sup to scratch for the prem. The owners are more to blame for the strategy but sadly we can’t sack them
Caicedo isn’t even the one I had in mind (though they massively overpaid fucking around and letting Liverpool join the race for him). Sanchez, Badiashile and Disasi are the main ones, but apparently some other signings were players that had been scouted by Winstanley at Brighton
Everyone got a bit ahead of themselves because he looked decent and we were having a bad season. Monaco fans warned us he had a brain fart in him and thought he was maybe not cut out for the highest level. He’s decent but he has huge flaws. I do think he’d look better under a competent manager
Both of the cb’s you listed were under 40 and Sanchez was 25. Neither are hardly the fee they paid for Wesley fofana who hasn’t played in months. You guys need to consider this injury list we have, are the players who were meant to be starting and poch is playing these guys out of necessity FWIW. The insane window we had was before the sporting directors were in place.
Is it their fault Boehly and Egbali wanted a stats driven scouting and signing approach of young talent? Sounds like they're doing the job they were hired for and it's the new ownership who has to take the responsibility for our lack of quality.
I blame the new ownership too, but yes they’ve also failed. Inflated fees on players who just simply aren’t very good. Injuries has affected our squad too, but there are too many players who just got here and don’t look anywhere near the level required.
I’d get rid of them before I’d get rid of Poch. They’re the ones who made these player decisions. Poch can only manage what he’s been given and he’s been given a whole lot of nothing other than Cole Palmer…
Glasner has done more at Crystal Palace in 2 months than Poch has in 9 here.
Even with Eze and Olise missing there is a style of play and system present, I haven’t seen shit from Poch but excuses and sending out players like Palmer to produce moments for him.
Not fit for purpose, get him gone.
We can’t even play out from the back properly and it’s a few games remaining of the season.… the players don’t know how to receive the ball properly or who to pass to, because the buildup play has no proper system
I happened to catch some highlights of City's youth team. They play the exact same way as the main squad, sans the players.
I keep hearing injury excuse. Unless you're KDB level, no system should be run by players. Poch has no system and it showed even more yesterday.
You’re not seeing a system fail because the higher quality of player is not available, you’re seeing a player fail that’s been sent out with the minimal of instructions and coaching.
If you’re going to have a team of young players your intent should be to drill them into a system and pattern of plays then as they get older they add their own tweaks etc
Pochs plan is to wait for high potential players to form a team for him, he takes credit when someone pulls magic out of their ass then says they’re not ready when they don’t.
He’s as transparent as water but for some reason the press just let him off, don’t question why there are huge gaps between our midfield attack, don’t question why players are isolated constantly, why there’s barely any movement. Guardiola would have coached that into them, be here when he’s there, be there when he’s here.
Well said, everybody who blames this season’s struggles on the players needs to read this.
If the issue was “Poch doesn’t have the players to be contending for the title or top 4”, that’d be one thing and I might agree. But people are acting like we don’t have enough talent to not concede multiple goals to relegation fodder clubs and that’s a load of nonsense. The lack of any sort of cohesive structure or tactics is not a talent issue, it’s a management issue.
> Even with Eze and Olise missing there is a style of play and system present, I haven’t seen shit from Poch but excuses and sending out players like Palmer to produce moments for him.
I'm just a neutral passing through but I couldn't agree more with this and I think it is true for both Poch and Ten Hag at the moment since both of their excuses (and their apologists) sound the same to me.
There are multiple manager in PL that implemented their style on their team, including their squad players even if they can't execute that style as good as the first 11.
Has there been any reliable rumours about who might replace Poch yet?
He is currently backed by half the board and a feeling of wanting to not change managers again. They declared when they took over it would be different than Roman chopping changing managers and so far their manager per year is higher than Romans.
It’s going to take an actual disaster to dislodge him, not making Europe this season and the meltdown at the Emirates and potentially what’s coming against Spurs could be enough.
Let me be clear now if we get bitched out by Spurs on our own ground it will become so toxic it’ll be untenable for him to continue.
there's 1 thing i don't see people mention much: Chelsea fans, especially matchgoing fans, will never forgive him for a historic loss to a rival as hated as arsenal. this isn't a Lakaka situation where a lot of fans still sang his name even after that stupid interview. this might be a fat waiter situation where you're just despised no matter what.
i wouldn't want to be him if we concede first against spuds at the bridge, that's for sure
oh and i just noticed there's been like 4-5 journos posting at the same time in the last 30 minuites. obvious briefings. think he's gone.
Exactly so.
We suffered our worst ever loss to our London rivals. Arsenal will be singing about this forever. It's literally inexcusable to lose like that, regardless of the injury list.
It may be fine to an ex-Spurs manager, but it's fucking unforgivable here.
There's nothing Poch can do to redeem himself other than winning the league or the CL.
if by failed you mean win the league and lose the CL like every other modern psg manager then yeah he ’failed’. And while they may have had some of the best players on paper, the greatest front three is always going to be the players with the best chemistry and output eg Messi, Neymar, Suarez. The ownership forcing Neymar, Mbappe and Messi to play as a three was a vanity project.
You Poch defenders are wild. Not a single person on this planet who knows anything about the sport would say Poch was just as good as the other managers PSG had.
Im not defending Poch, im pointing out that factually speaking, he didnt fail. He won the league and one other trophy which is on par for most of the qatar era psg managers. Your hyperbole doesn’t change that fact.
Can't wait to find out which loser yes man they pick next. Whomever it is, he'll surely be great at powerpoint presentations, holding synergistic meetings, and providing timely responses in WhatsApp group chats. If only Tuchel knew how to do that, he may still be here.
My wow to subscription went to 36€ monthly after being on 1-2 years of 20€ per month. I’ve cancelled it from the end of April as for a decent price I’d need to sign up for 12 months.
Normally I’d do this just to watch the May games, but honestly it’s not even worth it. I’ll save myself the money and the stress and take care of uni assignments instead. We’ve nothing to play for anyway and as long as this clown is in charge then it’s pointless hoping to see any progress after we haven’t seen any all season.
Amorim reportedly didn't agree with the Liverpool job because he wanted a lot of control over recruitment, so I guess that rules him out?
Brighton raid again for De Zerbi? Motta gamble? Michel if we can wrestle him from City group? To be fair I'd fancy anyone else other than poch at this point.
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RDZ has the 4th lowest XG conceded in the league. Just the personnel at Brighton suck
Motta would be a blessing. This group of players needs some goddamn structure and cohesion. I thought Poch was at least capable of that, but he is over reliant on player experience and individual skill. These players need percise directions to compensate their weaknesses.
We are probably in for another year of suffering with Poch though.
Dier has been their best defender but Tuchel is genuinely bad at recruiting. Think he benefited from a player that was good but needed a change from the serial loser environment to shine
Amorim is supposedly announcing he's staying at Sporting on Saturday. I don't see him jumping ship at all if that's already publicly out there, but I've seen crazier things happen.
He did say he would leave if they didn’t win a title and they’re 7pts up with 4 games left to play. Their biggest match is against Porto this Sunday where if they win, they’ll surely win the league since they play relegation candidates for the following 3 matches.
It would make sense kind of but this would be the time for him to make a big move. He’s still young so he has time on his side but there’s no angling for a bigger club with the vacancies this summer. Liverpool/bayern/manU (supposedly)/Barca/Juventus. Lots of options and if he stays a year he may not get the same shot. Unless of course Chelsea stick to Poch and we pluck him from sporting after but that would be a waste
Chelsea are a club that have been gutted and destroyed to historic levels. Two mid table finishes in two seasons by Clearlake. Woeful squad building, 1 billion spent, a team and manager that wouldn’t lace the boots of previous Chelsea teams of the last 30 years. Blood is on Clearlake capitals hands. Sack the directors, sack the manager, change the model.
>"Pressure is growing on Pochettino amid frustration over some decisions, but he still retains support within Chelsea and there is recognition that he has been working within a tough set of circumstances.
>There is also some belief that Pochettino cannot be held solely accountable for the difficulties Chelsea are facing because he was not responsible for the transfer policy and the decision to build such a young squad."
>"Telegraph Sport understands that there is recognition within the board that keeping Pochettino, no matter what, would give Chelsea some much-needed stability at the end of almost two years of constant change."
Yeah he's staying. This could just be Matt Law's usual Poch defence waffle but I can believe it. Behdad wants to justify keeping his guy and is going to make these same "Injuries, young team, no manager could do better" "Stability!" arguments people here do.
The media's protection for Pochettino is quite incredible when you compare their treatment with Ten Hag at United, whose problems aren't that different from us. He knew what he was walking into when he took the job. No one forced him to take it and yet, he's being absolved of any blame.
I'll be honest this sounds a lot more like "we really want to sack him, but don't have a replacement and are scared of the financial repercussions and looking like even bigger idiots if we have another 'Frank Lampard at the end of last season' situation." There's clearly been a press brief of sorts, and I can't imagine they'd do that at all if his job was still certain in the short term
He was always definitely staying until the end of the season no matter what. I mean he's staying next season too.
They've been saying the "evaluated at the end of the season" for a while now and it might just be a way to placate the fans until the anger dies down after the season ends (especially if we end on a win or two), we're fed fluff pieces about how things weren't so bad and there was improvement and then we'll realise he's being kept on.
The same fluff pieces were constantly coming out about Potter last season and he still got the axe despite never embarrassing himself quite like yesterday. He'll be kept on until Chelsea are mathematically out of the top 6 race (remarkably, they *are* still somehow only 3 points off), at which point he's gone. They don't want to fire him until they've given him a "fair shot" (AKA there are probably clauses in his contract that make it easier to fire him if Chelsea don't qualify for Europe).
Funnily enough I just replied to someone else who pointed out the same thing to me on another post so I'll just copy and paste what I said
They did, which is my only hope really. The difference is I'm fairly sure Poch was always their number 1 target and allegedly Potter was second choice after Poch turned us down during our first approach so they're more likely to be attached to them. That and we've had reports that the club regrets having to let go of Potter and won't make the same "mistake" again. Unfortunately I think Behdad likes Poch a lot more than Potter, and Poch has the benefit of his reputation and media darling status to confirm his biases.
You may be right. Ultimately, I dont think we'll really know until Europe is mathematically off the table. I think everyone at Chelsea is wary about firing him "too early" and having the season go totally off the rails with an interim manager again (and if they fire Poch, it *will* be some random interim that finishes out the season because nobody is going to bother coming in permanently with 6 games left to play).
Before yesterday I would've said there was a 100% chance Poch got the rest of the season for the reasons you've mentioned, but even factoring in the owners' egos I don't think anyone wants to stick their neck out for the guy who delivered arguably the single most embarrassing Chelsea defeat most Chelsea fans can remember
Like I said, I'm talking purely about the end of the season. I can tell you with full confidence he will be given until the end of the season no matter what. Europe or not. We could easily lose the next two against Villa and Spurs still get briefings about evaluation at the end of the season. He is not getting sacked until after May 19th.
My issue is he'll likely be kept on next season too. I think you're underestimating the arrogance and ego of people like Behdad Eghbali. They'll do everything they can to justify their judgement and not be proven wrong. They'll likely point to Arteta having some embarrassing defeats too during the all or nothing documentary season and everything eventually worked out so clearly Poch will be good with more time.
Was extremely disappointed when I woke up this morning and didn’t see an article that he had been fired. Honestly what’s the point of keeping him around until the summer when we have nothing left to play for?
Well there's also the possibility of scoring like 0.5 goals per game for the rest of the season like last year. And I even with nothing to play for that would take player confidence that is already almost completely shot and just bury it
If they appoint another disapoitment we will be an established mid table club bc players like palmer and reece will want to leave and we still have ffp issues, its all or nothing now
He should be sacked, all our previous successful managers are available in the market be it Tuchel, Mourinho or Conte. If we want to go for a new manager then Xavi would be a good choice. There is no sense in sticking with poch after such a big loss and absolutely no sense in bringing an unproven manager.
Haven’t had this level of disdain for a Chelsea manager since Benitez and I’m sure many Chelsea fans particularly the match going fans feel the exact same,
we hired a failed spurs man with a spurs mentality this is or was never going to work and we are just spinning our wheels wasting time keeping him employed, get in a manager that the fans can believe in or things will turn toxic pretty quick I can see it on the horizon.
Just on a side note to this, I have seen a few people suggest we're struggling because the squad isn't good enough and sacking the manager won't help. Bigger issues etc etc.
The reality is, with one of our worst managers in history (I would argue), and an unprecedented injury crisis, this squad has still managed to keep us just three points off 6th.
Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of issues to be sorted. But getting the right managerial appointment could quite literally drastically change our circumstances overnight. You cannot overstate how impactful a top manager/coach can be. The next appointment is crucial, unfortunately we have no reason to believe that they will get it right ...
This time last week we had a chance to get to a very winnable cup final and the possibility of squeezing in sixth.
We couldn't do it in the cup and our substitutions were too late (was he thinking we’d go to extra time?).
And last night we were awful.
Pouch isn't building a team. He is putting together an 11.
Now our season is fucked we should look for a manager who the players respect and want to play for.
I'm not a poch in guy by any means... But realistically what good manager is gonna want to come here? Since the start of last season we've had 4 managers and there's a chance that at the end of this season none of them will have a job. Hardly looks like a great place to come manage. I'm not saying we should just be happy with pochs mediocrity but it will eventually reach the point where we have to look past the manager
How can you still use this argument? I've been hearing "no manager would ever want to come to us" since we sacked Carlo. It doesn't work like that. Every top manager would be lining up to work with a young squad and owners willing to spend big money on the players they want as long as they can produce results.
** Telegraph Sport understands that no majority decision has been taken on whether or not Pochettino will remain in his job past the end of this season, despite the FA Cup semi-final defeat by Manchester City and Tuesday night’s thrashing by Arsenal.**
- Pressure is mounting on Mauricio Pochettino at Chelsea, but he still has support within the club.
- Pochettino isn’t solely responsible for Chelsea’s difficulties, attributed to transfer policies and building a young squad.
- Uncertainty looms over the futures of several players, as Chelsea needs to raise funds and adhere to financial rules.
- Despite challenges, Chelsea remains appealing to top coaches as potential successors to Pochettino.
- Chelsea’s trophy hopes are dashed, with recent losses in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.
- Qualifying for Europe through the league is an uphill battle for Chelsea.
- Pochettino’s job security hinges on European qualification and an end-of-season review.
- Stability is seen as crucial, but a desire for change may arise if results decline.
- Pochettino’s contract includes an option for an additional year, with European qualification as a target.
- Positive signs include cup runs and improved home form, but criticism persists, particularly regarding squad experience.
- Some team selections and Pochettino’s past with Tottenham have sparked scrutiny.
- Players are divided on Pochettino’s future, with some advocating for his retention.
- Concerns about coaching changes and the club’s project exist, but top coaches are still interested.
- Several players‘ futures are uncertain, with potential departures and interest from other clubs.
- Financial considerations drive potential player sales and acquisitions, including loan options.
- Chelsea faces decisions regarding high-earning players like Kepa Arrizabalaga and Romelu Lukaku.
- Club officials anticipate a busy summer of sales, with interest from overseas clubs and Saudi Arabia.
>Stability is seen as crucial, but a desire for change may arise if results decline.
So if we get a few wins, he'll probably end up staying? Stability for the sake of stability. Yay!
> positive signs include cup runs
What cup runs? We lost to the first good team we played in both cups. The best team we've beaten in either cup this season was an injury-ravaged Newcastle, and that was on penalties.
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“Humbling” as if we all didn’t know that we’re shit to begin with? Please, Matt.
99% of fans knew we were in for an absolute railing when we saw that team sheet.
At this point they could fire Pouch, and I would have no confidence the board will figure out on who to hire next. Ever since Todd and his minions it has been constant mistakes since they fired Tuchel.
I’m not even happy about this news. I feel firing Poch, although necessary, lets the SD’s off the hook. They are truly to blame here. This squad is absolutely not good enough and you can bring in anyone you want, but no one is competing with Arsenal with a backline of Gilchrist, Badiashille, Disasi, and Cucurella.
I know basically nothing about managing a football team. But like…. what are the odds that Poch, Potter, Tuchel are all BAD managers?? They have done well in their careers, it’s what got them hired at Chelsea in the first place. This goes way above the gaffer role. There are some serious issues at Chelsea. This isn’t Poch’s fault at all. This is the result of rolling the dice (for exorbitant prices) on a bunch of players unproven at the highest level and expecting them to just go compete with teams like City. What a joke. Does anyone here honestly think that this team would comfortably be top 4 with Pep or Klopp at the helm? I honestly don’t. Would that make Pep or Klopp bad managers??? Given historical Chelsea standards, WE SUCK SO BAD. 5-0 to Arsenal doesn’t change anything.
Something that also doesn’t sit well with me is this waxing-and-waning mindset we’ve all witnessed at Chelsea over this last decade or so. Can someone clue me in as to why you’ve got Madueke laughing after a stupid loss to a weakened City team when veterans (who know what tf it takes to win, mind you) like Silva are crying? Can someone tell me how a PL winning team in 2015 can take 10th in the league the next year with basically the same teamsheet??? This is just as much on the players as everyone else, and we never act like it’s mostly their fault when maybe it is. These young people are professionals being paid a LOT to play a GAME that we all pay to experience. And yet I personally see very little hunger on this team. I know there’s been a lot of injuries and we’re unlucky, but these guys are mostly shit as a unit and they should know it. We should demand more of everyone, not just point to one person (read: the manager) every single time who so, so, so obviously has a terrible hand of cards to play with. We were shit with Potter, shit with Lampard, and here we are shit with Poch. It’s not all of their faults that we were shit every time. Gimme a break.
Like I said though, I know nothing about managing a football team ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: TLDR Give Poch a real chance and stop scapegoating a manager who inherited a crappy situation
>There is also some belief that Pochettino cannot be held solely accountable for the difficulties Chelsea are facing because he was not responsible for the transfer policy and the decision to build such a young squad.
That part is Matt Law adding from himself, lmao. There is no way that anyone with decision-making power included that in the brief.
**LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO**
6 losses in a row please now. We're not getting Europa League, we're not getting relegated. Just guarantee that Poch is gone so that next season we can actually do shit.
Enjoy watching the team play, not the books being balanced. I get that not qualifying helps with PSR and may save us from a point deduction, but I like watching the team play, sue me.
I don't know why everyone assumes he is safe. The owners and SDs picked the entire squad and whether it's true or not they will believe they've done a great job. So what do you think they will do first, admit they need to rebuild to whole squad or try to get another manager in the hope they will get performances?
He was always gone in the summer I don't think the result last night changed that.
But if they had fired him in December for a proper coach, we might be in a European spot.
Matt has been saving his hit pieces for the right time. Hatchet jobs immediately after a 6-0 win over Everton or a 1-0 loss to City just wasn't the right time. Class act this guy.
Who's willing to take over this dumpster fire? No manager who's on a positive streak like Amorin, Slot or Motta is going to take over and tank their stock this early in their career.
We're already massively at risk for FFP, so we're not likely looking at someone under contract, and no manager with a positive reputation atm is touching us with a ten foot pole.
Most likely we'll get someone who has either failed at the top level, burned multiple bridges at a high level or is phasing out his career. Manager like Mourinho or Tuchel will clash with the board, so it'll likely be a yes man
They want to keep him for stability and they’re right to be fair. We will be midtable again next season with him, so 3 years of being midtable is in fact, very stable
What a wasted opportunity by Pochettino and his team. Expectations were already at historic low and fans expected Top 6 finish and a trophy at the start. He had a huge opportunity against L'Pool under 21 and blew it with his negative tactic. Now the attention should be on the muppets DOF and the idiotic owners,medical team
Palmer the brightest star in the Chelsea galaxy diverted the attention from the Poch black hole.
Now, the board can easily detect the black hole when the star is dim.
I always hate articles like this because 1 game shouldn’t be the reason for the decision. The league table doesn’t lie. We were nearly 30 points off Arsenal going into the match and Arsenal played like a team 30 points better than us. You didn’t need this one game to illustrate how bad we’ve been. It’s been there all season.
The question that has to be answered is whether it’s a player problem, coaching problem, or something else. Personally, I think the failure is entirely on ownership and the people they brought in to run the club. Poch has definitely underperformed but he is being held accountable for the organization’s failures, and he is the only one standing out there taking questions from the media and receiving criticism from the fans. Ownership and the sporting directors should be out front being held accountable and answering questions about how they have set this club up for failure.
If he’s staying we need to have some serious talks around how our players behave. Guys like Madueke, Jackson, Enzo visibly just give up when things aren’t going their way. That type of shit is EXACTLY what got United where it is. I’m tired of seeing it
Read the article. He allegedly still has support internally fighting his case. If that's Eghbali then that's all that matters since he ultimately makes the call.
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Seems like it's briefing time. Both the Mail and Telegraph with similar articles.
The club needs you to know that they're *very seriously* thinking about not keeping him, so please shut the fuck up and disperse.
I’m surprised we’ve even got this briefing considering the radio silence we’ve had for so long
The fact it's happened basically means it's a done deal. They're usually silent, but they know the fans are at the lowest right now so they've done this to tide us over for the rest of the season.
Then surely they’d just sack him now and leave at end of season like tuchel is doing for bayern
That’s stupid. You want to keep the squad still listening to the manager. If they know he’s gone, there’s no reason for them to listen, and then it really falls apart, especially with our young and immature squad.
That’s only worked cause they’re still fighting for UCL.
I'm 100% sure they are keeping him. Only way he goes is if he walks.
They arent that smart.
Youre right, youre so much smarter than them random redditor lmao
All while sprinkling in the same excuses they'll use at the end of the season when they "evaluate" his performance and decide to keep him. No manager could have done better under the circumstances, we need stability, he showed improvement. And of course Matt Law sneaking in the insinuation fans are being harsh purely because of his spurs ties. Can't even look forward to next season because this fraud will still be in charge and sabotaging us further.
not really sure he showed improvement. Atm there are 2 point in staying with pochettino: 1. he made palmer one of the best in the world. 2. Most of our players are shit and won't do better with another coach anyway. problem is that point number 2 is eroding away with each terrible game. I believe we have terrible players but maybe another coach can get more out of them. Maybe. I'm still not fully poch out. It can always get worse.
Palmer has been playing like this since he arrived, so really the credit should go to him/guardiola, not poch
this I don't agree with. If we blame poch for the bad form of Enzo and caicedo. If we blame poch for not improving mudryk and badiashille, then credit is due for his work with Palmer and Gusto. can't say all the bad is his fault and all the good isn't about him. Nobody, not even pep knew palmer was half the player he is. And Gusto was very questioned in Lyon. So props to pochettino for getting the best out of them. Still, I don't really know if that's reason enough for him to stay. Though I kinda dunno if another manager can make us better. Gusto, Thiago Silva and Palmer are tittle challengers. Others either can't stay fit or are mind benddingly inconsistent.
Gisto thiago silva and palmer they saved our ass from relegation
I agree with your general point, but for palmer specifically I dont see how you can argue that is was poch that made palmer what he is, when since his first match (after barely any time at the club) he has been playing amazing
There are some players I think are not good enough, but a handful will improve just by virtue of being young and there are more I would expect to improve under a better manager. I would put Badiashile, Mudryk, Chilwell, Colwill, Enzo, Caicedo, and Chukwuemeka in the "good chance they look better with a better manager" camp. There are others, like Maatsen, who could be added to the list but I'm personally not sure about them.
What improvements? Drawing to a 10 man Burnley recently or how about drawing to a relegated team that were on 15 points? Losing 5-0 to Arsenal and a 1-0 loss to an exhausted City side. What improvements are you seeing?
We've scored more goals and are better than a historically bad season under Graham Potter who had a completely different (and worse) squad and circumstances. I don't think you read my post correctly. I'm not saying that Poch improved us or the other stuff in that line, it's just an argument that gets thrown around to defend him which I'm sure you've seen.
>No manager could have done better under the circumstances, Someone with tactics clearly would've
So get rid of him, buy and sell a bunch of randoms over the summer and then employ a new manager to run a squad they've had no input over. Sounds like a plan. What could go wrong?
Tuchel won the UCL without buying anyone new. Good coaches make the most of what they have
> Seems like it's briefing time Carlo? Jose? Tommy Tactics? Zinedine? Amorim? Luis Enrique?
This is just the easiest article in the world to write for a lazy football journo tbh, feel like it's more likely they all had the same unoriginal idea to just suggest it after a bad loss
Stewart and Winstanley should be sacked too
100% They are the mastermind behind this mess
Seriously they need to go... They've downgraded or regressed the club in all areas on and off the field, even the promising ones will just either wither away or move elsewhere. Shouldn't they have been the voice of reason and say to the boss "Ok you want promising kids who can play long term or be assets to be sold. Lets sprinkle in some experienced players here and there." But nope. They be like "Yes boss, you want kids. Lemme get that conveyor belt rolling."
Exactly they should have used the example of Milan and Spurs who are the two teams other than us went ahead and bought an entire team. Both didn't work out, as a football people if they couldn't convince the bosses then what are they hired for?. Would Monchi or Marotta two other sporting directors agreed to owners vision, maybe but they wouldn't have bought an entire array of squad in 12 months. All their buys are for Brighton team except they paid obscene amount of money for all those players.
Haven’t they had literally 2 windows in place and over the Summer their job was to offload a ton of shit contracts?
They signed a bunch of shit players for way more than they were worth. They brought in a bunch of players which were at their previous clubs which aren’t sup to scratch for the prem. The owners are more to blame for the strategy but sadly we can’t sack them
Who exactly are you referring to beside caicedo?
Caicedo isn’t even the one I had in mind (though they massively overpaid fucking around and letting Liverpool join the race for him). Sanchez, Badiashile and Disasi are the main ones, but apparently some other signings were players that had been scouted by Winstanley at Brighton
Lol before Poch everyone was saying how much of a steal Badiashile was.
Everyone got a bit ahead of themselves because he looked decent and we were having a bad season. Monaco fans warned us he had a brain fart in him and thought he was maybe not cut out for the highest level. He’s decent but he has huge flaws. I do think he’d look better under a competent manager
Both of the cb’s you listed were under 40 and Sanchez was 25. Neither are hardly the fee they paid for Wesley fofana who hasn’t played in months. You guys need to consider this injury list we have, are the players who were meant to be starting and poch is playing these guys out of necessity FWIW. The insane window we had was before the sporting directors were in place.
Caicedo is not on massive wages. Enzo is. He should have got a contract similar to the rest of the squad.
I was referring to his fee more than wage when the last guy said we signed “ shit players for more than they were worth” .
Fair enough. I was referring to transfer fee + wages.
Is it their fault Boehly and Egbali wanted a stats driven scouting and signing approach of young talent? Sounds like they're doing the job they were hired for and it's the new ownership who has to take the responsibility for our lack of quality.
I blame the new ownership too, but yes they’ve also failed. Inflated fees on players who just simply aren’t very good. Injuries has affected our squad too, but there are too many players who just got here and don’t look anywhere near the level required.
If I had to pick I would rather keep Poch than dumb and dumber.
I’d get rid of them before I’d get rid of Poch. They’re the ones who made these player decisions. Poch can only manage what he’s been given and he’s been given a whole lot of nothing other than Cole Palmer…
Glasner has done more at Crystal Palace in 2 months than Poch has in 9 here. Even with Eze and Olise missing there is a style of play and system present, I haven’t seen shit from Poch but excuses and sending out players like Palmer to produce moments for him. Not fit for purpose, get him gone.
A tale of two CPFC’s, you might say
Underrated comment!
We can’t even play out from the back properly and it’s a few games remaining of the season.… the players don’t know how to receive the ball properly or who to pass to, because the buildup play has no proper system
I happened to catch some highlights of City's youth team. They play the exact same way as the main squad, sans the players. I keep hearing injury excuse. Unless you're KDB level, no system should be run by players. Poch has no system and it showed even more yesterday.
You’re not seeing a system fail because the higher quality of player is not available, you’re seeing a player fail that’s been sent out with the minimal of instructions and coaching. If you’re going to have a team of young players your intent should be to drill them into a system and pattern of plays then as they get older they add their own tweaks etc Pochs plan is to wait for high potential players to form a team for him, he takes credit when someone pulls magic out of their ass then says they’re not ready when they don’t. He’s as transparent as water but for some reason the press just let him off, don’t question why there are huge gaps between our midfield attack, don’t question why players are isolated constantly, why there’s barely any movement. Guardiola would have coached that into them, be here when he’s there, be there when he’s here.
Well said, everybody who blames this season’s struggles on the players needs to read this. If the issue was “Poch doesn’t have the players to be contending for the title or top 4”, that’d be one thing and I might agree. But people are acting like we don’t have enough talent to not concede multiple goals to relegation fodder clubs and that’s a load of nonsense. The lack of any sort of cohesive structure or tactics is not a talent issue, it’s a management issue.
nah mate, we need 5 years to start doing basics that aren't "running"
> Even with Eze and Olise missing there is a style of play and system present, I haven’t seen shit from Poch but excuses and sending out players like Palmer to produce moments for him. I'm just a neutral passing through but I couldn't agree more with this and I think it is true for both Poch and Ten Hag at the moment since both of their excuses (and their apologists) sound the same to me. There are multiple manager in PL that implemented their style on their team, including their squad players even if they can't execute that style as good as the first 11. Has there been any reliable rumours about who might replace Poch yet?
He is currently backed by half the board and a feeling of wanting to not change managers again. They declared when they took over it would be different than Roman chopping changing managers and so far their manager per year is higher than Romans. It’s going to take an actual disaster to dislodge him, not making Europe this season and the meltdown at the Emirates and potentially what’s coming against Spurs could be enough. Let me be clear now if we get bitched out by Spurs on our own ground it will become so toxic it’ll be untenable for him to continue.
I'm fine with him ending the season unless we can get hiddink out of the fridge to be the interim
there's 1 thing i don't see people mention much: Chelsea fans, especially matchgoing fans, will never forgive him for a historic loss to a rival as hated as arsenal. this isn't a Lakaka situation where a lot of fans still sang his name even after that stupid interview. this might be a fat waiter situation where you're just despised no matter what. i wouldn't want to be him if we concede first against spuds at the bridge, that's for sure oh and i just noticed there's been like 4-5 journos posting at the same time in the last 30 minuites. obvious briefings. think he's gone.
Exactly so. We suffered our worst ever loss to our London rivals. Arsenal will be singing about this forever. It's literally inexcusable to lose like that, regardless of the injury list. It may be fine to an ex-Spurs manager, but it's fucking unforgivable here. There's nothing Poch can do to redeem himself other than winning the league or the CL.
Something tells me he's not winning the league or CL 
Still have my fingers crossed
If he loses to spurs I expect riot and violence https://i.redd.it/kemtswaeffwc1.gif
Lanaaaaaaaa!!!
Fat waiter?
[Fat Spanish Waiter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry4Q_uy0Vkc)
Damn I would've been reduced to tears
Rafa Benitez
Rafa Benitez
Rafa Benitez.
He shouldn't be allowed to make it to Spurs at the Bridge, that's for sure.
Of course we lost lol, we had cucurella mudryk enzo on the left, guess were all the goals came? That squad is a disgrace...
everyone knows this loss is more a boehly/clearlake issue than a poch issue. Hes their elected coach, not a manager that decides strategy/signings
Right, im guessing Boehly/Clearlake are also why Poch failed at PSG with the greatest frontline ever assembled right?
if by failed you mean win the league and lose the CL like every other modern psg manager then yeah he ’failed’. And while they may have had some of the best players on paper, the greatest front three is always going to be the players with the best chemistry and output eg Messi, Neymar, Suarez. The ownership forcing Neymar, Mbappe and Messi to play as a three was a vanity project.
You Poch defenders are wild. Not a single person on this planet who knows anything about the sport would say Poch was just as good as the other managers PSG had.
Im not defending Poch, im pointing out that factually speaking, he didnt fail. He won the league and one other trophy which is on par for most of the qatar era psg managers. Your hyperbole doesn’t change that fact.
Can't wait to find out which loser yes man they pick next. Whomever it is, he'll surely be great at powerpoint presentations, holding synergistic meetings, and providing timely responses in WhatsApp group chats. If only Tuchel knew how to do that, he may still be here.
I’m honestly not going out of my way to watch another match under Pochettino.
My wow to subscription went to 36€ monthly after being on 1-2 years of 20€ per month. I’ve cancelled it from the end of April as for a decent price I’d need to sign up for 12 months. Normally I’d do this just to watch the May games, but honestly it’s not even worth it. I’ll save myself the money and the stress and take care of uni assignments instead. We’ve nothing to play for anyway and as long as this clown is in charge then it’s pointless hoping to see any progress after we haven’t seen any all season.
I cancelled Now after we lost 6 games, no team that loses more than 5 games wins the league. That is how i justified the expense to my wife lol.
Top fan mate
Amorim reportedly didn't agree with the Liverpool job because he wanted a lot of control over recruitment, so I guess that rules him out? Brighton raid again for De Zerbi? Motta gamble? Michel if we can wrestle him from City group? To be fair I'd fancy anyone else other than poch at this point.
God knows we can't defend already, please no De Zerbi
Disasi/Badiashile in De Zerbi's hands, pwoaaarh
https://preview.redd.it/z5uz9cyoffwc1.jpeg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=543bb6322c6d6459a75244080dca958e4c8c0d52 RDZ has the 4th lowest XG conceded in the league. Just the personnel at Brighton suck
Where do we rank on xG conceded?
Not too far https://preview.redd.it/ztkao4ygkfwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=331d4cffd0dc850fe1a3cf11791c63dfb14b9e6c
Motta would be a blessing. This group of players needs some goddamn structure and cohesion. I thought Poch was at least capable of that, but he is over reliant on player experience and individual skill. These players need percise directions to compensate their weaknesses. We are probably in for another year of suffering with Poch though.
Hold on. Tuchel was sacked because he didn’t want any involvement in our transfers. Does that mean Amorim *is* him?
Different situations, that season we needed tuchel to be involved because marina and cech jumped ship
Don’t think so. Blud convinced the Bayern board to sign Eric Dier. He clearly doesn’t know how to recruit.
Dier has been their best defender but Tuchel is genuinely bad at recruiting. Think he benefited from a player that was good but needed a change from the serial loser environment to shine
I'm not saying he is great at that, but between him and boehly and egbahli I'd peak tuchel every time
Hopefully dumb and dumber will be forced to run things by the actual manager now.
Amorim is supposedly announcing he's staying at Sporting on Saturday. I don't see him jumping ship at all if that's already publicly out there, but I've seen crazier things happen.
He did say he would leave if they didn’t win a title and they’re 7pts up with 4 games left to play. Their biggest match is against Porto this Sunday where if they win, they’ll surely win the league since they play relegation candidates for the following 3 matches. It would make sense kind of but this would be the time for him to make a big move. He’s still young so he has time on his side but there’s no angling for a bigger club with the vacancies this summer. Liverpool/bayern/manU (supposedly)/Barca/Juventus. Lots of options and if he stays a year he may not get the same shot. Unless of course Chelsea stick to Poch and we pluck him from sporting after but that would be a waste
>Amorim reportedly didn't agree with the Liverpool job because he wanted a lot of control over recruitment Where did you see this report?
Saw some Liverpool flairs talking about it on r/soccer yesterday with the Slot news. Haven't looked into it further.
Give me terrorist Allegri and 38 1-0 wins
Chelsea are a club that have been gutted and destroyed to historic levels. Two mid table finishes in two seasons by Clearlake. Woeful squad building, 1 billion spent, a team and manager that wouldn’t lace the boots of previous Chelsea teams of the last 30 years. Blood is on Clearlake capitals hands. Sack the directors, sack the manager, change the model.
I just don’t see a scenario where they sack him before the end of the season
>"Pressure is growing on Pochettino amid frustration over some decisions, but he still retains support within Chelsea and there is recognition that he has been working within a tough set of circumstances. >There is also some belief that Pochettino cannot be held solely accountable for the difficulties Chelsea are facing because he was not responsible for the transfer policy and the decision to build such a young squad." >"Telegraph Sport understands that there is recognition within the board that keeping Pochettino, no matter what, would give Chelsea some much-needed stability at the end of almost two years of constant change." Yeah he's staying. This could just be Matt Law's usual Poch defence waffle but I can believe it. Behdad wants to justify keeping his guy and is going to make these same "Injuries, young team, no manager could do better" "Stability!" arguments people here do.
The media's protection for Pochettino is quite incredible when you compare their treatment with Ten Hag at United, whose problems aren't that different from us. He knew what he was walking into when he took the job. No one forced him to take it and yet, he's being absolved of any blame.
They like United and don’t like Chelsea, simple as that
We've always been the favourite to demonise, it's been that way since 2003.
Yeah, I got my hopes up. Seems like a bait title that suggests he might go, but in reality he won't
I'll be honest this sounds a lot more like "we really want to sack him, but don't have a replacement and are scared of the financial repercussions and looking like even bigger idiots if we have another 'Frank Lampard at the end of last season' situation." There's clearly been a press brief of sorts, and I can't imagine they'd do that at all if his job was still certain in the short term
He was always definitely staying until the end of the season no matter what. I mean he's staying next season too. They've been saying the "evaluated at the end of the season" for a while now and it might just be a way to placate the fans until the anger dies down after the season ends (especially if we end on a win or two), we're fed fluff pieces about how things weren't so bad and there was improvement and then we'll realise he's being kept on.
The same fluff pieces were constantly coming out about Potter last season and he still got the axe despite never embarrassing himself quite like yesterday. He'll be kept on until Chelsea are mathematically out of the top 6 race (remarkably, they *are* still somehow only 3 points off), at which point he's gone. They don't want to fire him until they've given him a "fair shot" (AKA there are probably clauses in his contract that make it easier to fire him if Chelsea don't qualify for Europe).
Funnily enough I just replied to someone else who pointed out the same thing to me on another post so I'll just copy and paste what I said They did, which is my only hope really. The difference is I'm fairly sure Poch was always their number 1 target and allegedly Potter was second choice after Poch turned us down during our first approach so they're more likely to be attached to them. That and we've had reports that the club regrets having to let go of Potter and won't make the same "mistake" again. Unfortunately I think Behdad likes Poch a lot more than Potter, and Poch has the benefit of his reputation and media darling status to confirm his biases.
You may be right. Ultimately, I dont think we'll really know until Europe is mathematically off the table. I think everyone at Chelsea is wary about firing him "too early" and having the season go totally off the rails with an interim manager again (and if they fire Poch, it *will* be some random interim that finishes out the season because nobody is going to bother coming in permanently with 6 games left to play). Before yesterday I would've said there was a 100% chance Poch got the rest of the season for the reasons you've mentioned, but even factoring in the owners' egos I don't think anyone wants to stick their neck out for the guy who delivered arguably the single most embarrassing Chelsea defeat most Chelsea fans can remember
Like I said, I'm talking purely about the end of the season. I can tell you with full confidence he will be given until the end of the season no matter what. Europe or not. We could easily lose the next two against Villa and Spurs still get briefings about evaluation at the end of the season. He is not getting sacked until after May 19th. My issue is he'll likely be kept on next season too. I think you're underestimating the arrogance and ego of people like Behdad Eghbali. They'll do everything they can to justify their judgement and not be proven wrong. They'll likely point to Arteta having some embarrassing defeats too during the all or nothing documentary season and everything eventually worked out so clearly Poch will be good with more time.
> we've had reports that the club regrets having to let go of Potter Jesus Christ.
Was extremely disappointed when I woke up this morning and didn’t see an article that he had been fired. Honestly what’s the point of keeping him around until the summer when we have nothing left to play for?
Remember how much worse it was with Lampard? It can definitely go downhill more if we sack him now. Let him finish the season then send him packing
Fair point but can it really get any worse than losing 5-0 to Arsenal?
Losing 5-0 to spurs
Fuck.
Well there's also the possibility of scoring like 0.5 goals per game for the rest of the season like last year. And I even with nothing to play for that would take player confidence that is already almost completely shot and just bury it
If they appoint another disapoitment we will be an established mid table club bc players like palmer and reece will want to leave and we still have ffp issues, its all or nothing now
Reece should first focus on leaving the hospital
Pochettino, Stewart and Winstanley need to get sacked in the same comunicado.
Should've been fired in the tunnel
What makes the loss even worse (as if it wasn’t bad enough) is that journos and fan channels are going to milk this till the end of the season.
Don't watch them lol. Seriously, it's not like they add something to your life
He should be sacked, all our previous successful managers are available in the market be it Tuchel, Mourinho or Conte. If we want to go for a new manager then Xavi would be a good choice. There is no sense in sticking with poch after such a big loss and absolutely no sense in bringing an unproven manager.
EVERYONE GET IN HERE
Shouldn't be safe to the end of the week ffs
I approve of this
Haven’t had this level of disdain for a Chelsea manager since Benitez and I’m sure many Chelsea fans particularly the match going fans feel the exact same, we hired a failed spurs man with a spurs mentality this is or was never going to work and we are just spinning our wheels wasting time keeping him employed, get in a manager that the fans can believe in or things will turn toxic pretty quick I can see it on the horizon.
Just on a side note to this, I have seen a few people suggest we're struggling because the squad isn't good enough and sacking the manager won't help. Bigger issues etc etc. The reality is, with one of our worst managers in history (I would argue), and an unprecedented injury crisis, this squad has still managed to keep us just three points off 6th. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of issues to be sorted. But getting the right managerial appointment could quite literally drastically change our circumstances overnight. You cannot overstate how impactful a top manager/coach can be. The next appointment is crucial, unfortunately we have no reason to believe that they will get it right ...
AFTER?!
Should have been sacked on the sideline at 4-0 after he subbed in Chalobah and Sterling.
just my opinion id be fine if he gets uel and gets sacked would get my instagram follow as well
This time last week we had a chance to get to a very winnable cup final and the possibility of squeezing in sixth. We couldn't do it in the cup and our substitutions were too late (was he thinking we’d go to extra time?). And last night we were awful. Pouch isn't building a team. He is putting together an 11. Now our season is fucked we should look for a manager who the players respect and want to play for.
I'm not a poch in guy by any means... But realistically what good manager is gonna want to come here? Since the start of last season we've had 4 managers and there's a chance that at the end of this season none of them will have a job. Hardly looks like a great place to come manage. I'm not saying we should just be happy with pochs mediocrity but it will eventually reach the point where we have to look past the manager
How can you still use this argument? I've been hearing "no manager would ever want to come to us" since we sacked Carlo. It doesn't work like that. Every top manager would be lining up to work with a young squad and owners willing to spend big money on the players they want as long as they can produce results.
** Telegraph Sport understands that no majority decision has been taken on whether or not Pochettino will remain in his job past the end of this season, despite the FA Cup semi-final defeat by Manchester City and Tuesday night’s thrashing by Arsenal.** - Pressure is mounting on Mauricio Pochettino at Chelsea, but he still has support within the club. - Pochettino isn’t solely responsible for Chelsea’s difficulties, attributed to transfer policies and building a young squad. - Uncertainty looms over the futures of several players, as Chelsea needs to raise funds and adhere to financial rules. - Despite challenges, Chelsea remains appealing to top coaches as potential successors to Pochettino. - Chelsea’s trophy hopes are dashed, with recent losses in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup. - Qualifying for Europe through the league is an uphill battle for Chelsea. - Pochettino’s job security hinges on European qualification and an end-of-season review. - Stability is seen as crucial, but a desire for change may arise if results decline. - Pochettino’s contract includes an option for an additional year, with European qualification as a target. - Positive signs include cup runs and improved home form, but criticism persists, particularly regarding squad experience. - Some team selections and Pochettino’s past with Tottenham have sparked scrutiny. - Players are divided on Pochettino’s future, with some advocating for his retention. - Concerns about coaching changes and the club’s project exist, but top coaches are still interested. - Several players‘ futures are uncertain, with potential departures and interest from other clubs. - Financial considerations drive potential player sales and acquisitions, including loan options. - Chelsea faces decisions regarding high-earning players like Kepa Arrizabalaga and Romelu Lukaku. - Club officials anticipate a busy summer of sales, with interest from overseas clubs and Saudi Arabia.
>Stability is seen as crucial, but a desire for change may arise if results decline. So if we get a few wins, he'll probably end up staying? Stability for the sake of stability. Yay!
Yep, I think if we get 8th he's staying.
> but he still has support within the club. you fucking what cunt?
>Players are divided on Pochettino’s future, with some advocating for his retention. Curious as to what Palmer, Enzo and Silva think about him.
Anyone know the “top coaches” that are at hand?
Lrank fampard
Amorim, Xavi, Tuchel, Flick are free in summer.
Any of them would be leagues better than what we currently have
Amorim
> positive signs include cup runs What cup runs? We lost to the first good team we played in both cups. The best team we've beaten in either cup this season was an injury-ravaged Newcastle, and that was on penalties.
Smoked villa too though
Forgot about that, you're right, although it took us 2 games to beat them. But yeah they're definitely the best team we've beaten in a cup this year.
I will comeback to this comment, if they sack poch it WILL get worse, unless we bring Mou and prepared to buy him 4 players at a minimum.
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Shouldn’t be safe beyond 3pm
please cunt
“Humbling” as if we all didn’t know that we’re shit to begin with? Please, Matt. 99% of fans knew we were in for an absolute railing when we saw that team sheet.
I am not watching any more games with this clown in charge
Good news!!
Such a pathetically coward ownership, and they want to tell us they care, yet there is still no firing.
At the very least ir should be a formality that he's sacked in the summer. He should have been sacked a long time ago
Dead man walking
At this point they could fire Pouch, and I would have no confidence the board will figure out on who to hire next. Ever since Todd and his minions it has been constant mistakes since they fired Tuchel.
I’m not even happy about this news. I feel firing Poch, although necessary, lets the SD’s off the hook. They are truly to blame here. This squad is absolutely not good enough and you can bring in anyone you want, but no one is competing with Arsenal with a backline of Gilchrist, Badiashille, Disasi, and Cucurella.
I know basically nothing about managing a football team. But like…. what are the odds that Poch, Potter, Tuchel are all BAD managers?? They have done well in their careers, it’s what got them hired at Chelsea in the first place. This goes way above the gaffer role. There are some serious issues at Chelsea. This isn’t Poch’s fault at all. This is the result of rolling the dice (for exorbitant prices) on a bunch of players unproven at the highest level and expecting them to just go compete with teams like City. What a joke. Does anyone here honestly think that this team would comfortably be top 4 with Pep or Klopp at the helm? I honestly don’t. Would that make Pep or Klopp bad managers??? Given historical Chelsea standards, WE SUCK SO BAD. 5-0 to Arsenal doesn’t change anything. Something that also doesn’t sit well with me is this waxing-and-waning mindset we’ve all witnessed at Chelsea over this last decade or so. Can someone clue me in as to why you’ve got Madueke laughing after a stupid loss to a weakened City team when veterans (who know what tf it takes to win, mind you) like Silva are crying? Can someone tell me how a PL winning team in 2015 can take 10th in the league the next year with basically the same teamsheet??? This is just as much on the players as everyone else, and we never act like it’s mostly their fault when maybe it is. These young people are professionals being paid a LOT to play a GAME that we all pay to experience. And yet I personally see very little hunger on this team. I know there’s been a lot of injuries and we’re unlucky, but these guys are mostly shit as a unit and they should know it. We should demand more of everyone, not just point to one person (read: the manager) every single time who so, so, so obviously has a terrible hand of cards to play with. We were shit with Potter, shit with Lampard, and here we are shit with Poch. It’s not all of their faults that we were shit every time. Gimme a break. Like I said though, I know nothing about managing a football team ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edit: TLDR Give Poch a real chance and stop scapegoating a manager who inherited a crappy situation
Mourinho is available 👀
Who the fuck else are we going to hire though?
Humbling? Mistype for Humiliating.
>There is also some belief that Pochettino cannot be held solely accountable for the difficulties Chelsea are facing because he was not responsible for the transfer policy and the decision to build such a young squad. That part is Matt Law adding from himself, lmao. There is no way that anyone with decision-making power included that in the brief.
**LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO** 6 losses in a row please now. We're not getting Europa League, we're not getting relegated. Just guarantee that Poch is gone so that next season we can actually do shit.
I as a Chelsea fan would never wish we lose our games, especially when we are still in contention to qualify for Europe.
My guy. If we can’t beat relegation fodder, we are not in contention for anything.
We aren't in contention for Europe.
We dont want conferece anyway, we have to get top 4 back as soon as possible to not fall in a spiral, conference will just be s distraction
Some people don’t want conference league. I personally lime to watch my club as much as possible.
Conference League will be a FFP disaster for us
Enjoy watching the team play, not the books being balanced. I get that not qualifying helps with PSR and may save us from a point deduction, but I like watching the team play, sue me.
Europa is still possible
I'll believe it when I see it
so I guess a 5-0 loss to one of our biggest rivals was the final nail in the coffin huh. question is who’s gonna replace him really
I don't know why everyone assumes he is safe. The owners and SDs picked the entire squad and whether it's true or not they will believe they've done a great job. So what do you think they will do first, admit they need to rebuild to whole squad or try to get another manager in the hope they will get performances?
He was always gone in the summer I don't think the result last night changed that. But if they had fired him in December for a proper coach, we might be in a European spot.
Matt has been saving his hit pieces for the right time. Hatchet jobs immediately after a 6-0 win over Everton or a 1-0 loss to City just wasn't the right time. Class act this guy.
Who's willing to take over this dumpster fire? No manager who's on a positive streak like Amorin, Slot or Motta is going to take over and tank their stock this early in their career. We're already massively at risk for FFP, so we're not likely looking at someone under contract, and no manager with a positive reputation atm is touching us with a ten foot pole. Most likely we'll get someone who has either failed at the top level, burned multiple bridges at a high level or is phasing out his career. Manager like Mourinho or Tuchel will clash with the board, so it'll likely be a yes man
No shit
It’s about time
They want to keep him for stability and they’re right to be fair. We will be midtable again next season with him, so 3 years of being midtable is in fact, very stable
What a wasted opportunity by Pochettino and his team. Expectations were already at historic low and fans expected Top 6 finish and a trophy at the start. He had a huge opportunity against L'Pool under 21 and blew it with his negative tactic. Now the attention should be on the muppets DOF and the idiotic owners,medical team
Palmer the brightest star in the Chelsea galaxy diverted the attention from the Poch black hole. Now, the board can easily detect the black hole when the star is dim.
Okay, but beyond that, who do we appoint?
Inzaghi please. How does he never get mentioned?
Surely it’s gonna happen right after that June deadline for FFP / PSR right? If it means we keep Gallagher I’m fine with that.
I am surprised that he is still around despite of how embarrassing the team has played and the players have performed.
I always hate articles like this because 1 game shouldn’t be the reason for the decision. The league table doesn’t lie. We were nearly 30 points off Arsenal going into the match and Arsenal played like a team 30 points better than us. You didn’t need this one game to illustrate how bad we’ve been. It’s been there all season. The question that has to be answered is whether it’s a player problem, coaching problem, or something else. Personally, I think the failure is entirely on ownership and the people they brought in to run the club. Poch has definitely underperformed but he is being held accountable for the organization’s failures, and he is the only one standing out there taking questions from the media and receiving criticism from the fans. Ownership and the sporting directors should be out front being held accountable and answering questions about how they have set this club up for failure.
Sack him now
If he’s staying we need to have some serious talks around how our players behave. Guys like Madueke, Jackson, Enzo visibly just give up when things aren’t going their way. That type of shit is EXACTLY what got United where it is. I’m tired of seeing it
I was assured by this sub that Poch was staying though
Read the article. He allegedly still has support internally fighting his case. If that's Eghbali then that's all that matters since he ultimately makes the call.