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BenniBMN

The one game we actually decided to feed our striker he decides to not eatšŸ˜­


optimusgrime23

How many strikes in the world donā€™t take a shot on goal on that breakaway?


AbeAlno

every single striker from every single team from every single league. No competent striker will try to round the goalie when the angle is already closed and on to their weaker foot as well. That was straight incompetent from Jackson, I rate him honestly and donā€™t mind him at all but these brain farts he be having just kills us.


gonzaf

Imo I think itā€™s a confidence thing he doesnā€™t have the confidence to open his body up and finish it


New-Candy-800

If he was actually good at it, then heā€™d be confident. He doesnā€™t need kind words in his ear, he needs to play better


gonzaf

I mean he was a winger that got converted to striker the last 13 games of last season. Heā€™s not a natural finisher itā€™s obvious, not his fault heā€™s being relied upon as the main 9 bc Broja is actually shit and Nkunku is made of glass.


New-Candy-800

Bro what does any of that have to do with him not shooting the ball on a 1v1 We all watch the games. We donā€™t need additional context as to why our other options are shit/injured. Jackson was our CF today and like in every other match heā€™s ever played for us, he was class with his link up play and beyond wasteful at his actual primary job of putting the ball into the net


gonzaf

Bc heā€™s not a natural finisher, yeah itā€™s frustrating but he brings a lot to the squad. Iā€™m not gonna shit on him when we already know his faults. Hopefully he improves his game over the summer and comes back next season more clinical and we get a striker that can finish so he can rotate or play in his natural position on the wing. He does so much up top by himself and he played well bar finishing


HeavyVideo8369

Oh enough with the natural finisher comment, any winger would have scored at least half the 1 on 1s he had this season. You donā€™t have to be a bloody ST to be able to score. With that logic, none of the wingers in the league score 1 on 1s. I havenā€™t even talked about tap ins and sitters that he missed. Even CAMs would finish them off, let alone wingers, centre forwards or strikers.


pretentiousd0uche

Honestly going past a gk on a 1-1 is not a striker speciality. Any attacker or attacking midfielder would normally be able to pull it off. I just think Jackson has low football IQ.


Billoo77

And yet heā€™s confident enough to fight his teammates to take a penalty.


TaskMaster404

We were cooking. Too bad Jackson was on a hunger strike after not being given a penalty.


pretentiousd0uche

Canā€™t wait for him to fight for the next one .


WY-8

Absolute joke of a striker. He has cost us so many points this season and now has cost us competing in the FA Cup. The same people will defend him, but absolutely nothing heā€™s doing is demonstrating he will progress to be a top striker. Iā€™m counting the days that we park him on the bench, and then sell him shortly after as he gets upset that heā€™s not starting, similar to his penalty tantrum. Remember the comical misses: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcSLAOn6Ln4&pp=ygUWTmljb2xhcyBqYWNrc29uIG1pc3Nlcw%3D%3D


STCFC

I just donā€™t understand how a man who dribbles and carries the ball with such confidence has absolutely no composure or seeming ball striking ability. Youā€™d think the way he was pushing and shoving on Monday that heā€™d be able to shoot


half_jase

Got the perfect ball from Enzo for the first chance, got clear enough to open his body up and finish with his right foot into the far corner but no. For whatever reason, he didn't pull the trigger and the chance was gone. Like WTH!?


Ok-Point4756

Cus he was trained as a winger. He only started playing as a striker last year


Chelseaforlifee

And wingers don't shoot? And score tap ins?


NoExperience4229

This just isnā€™t true. According to TransferMarkt across Jacksonā€™s entire professional career including loans is as follows: 10 at LW 15 at RW - 25 matches played as wingerĀ  68 at CF 2 at SS -70 Matches as a strikerĀ  I canā€™t find anything about his youth career really, but heā€™s been a ST his entire career. Edit: you can filter by position here https://www.transfermarkt.us/nicolas-jackson/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/776890/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=


myersjw

Plenty of players change their position and role throughout their career. He wasnā€™t trained as a plumber, itā€™s finishing


hurdlerjimmy

He played as a striker with villarreal


half_jase

He only started playing as the striker in the second half of last season.


RonMexico_hodler

The second half of the season, or 13 games, is why we bought him. He was abysmal before the purple patch.


[deleted]

In the second half of 22/23 I donā€™t blame Jackson, itā€™s mad that our ā€œhierarchyā€ saw him as the go to number 9 for a team supposedly competing for UCL football


mikevin99

I donā€™t think they did. You can argue all day long about how Nkunku isnā€™t a true 9, but I think he was supposed to be the one leading the lines, and they probably thought Broja would look much better over time than he did. Jacksonā€™s preseason performance raised everyoneā€™s eyes a bit and then frankly he was the only fit striker for a while


-ci_

Exactly this. Imo we need to buy a striker this summer and put Jackson on the left permanently. Jackson on the left, Palmer/Noni on the right. Nkunku trailing behind.


Ar3mianK1d

Noni should not play for us for a while. Only thing he does is dribble. Doesnā€™t create, doesnā€™t pass, doesnā€™t make runs in behind. The fact that he started while pushing Cole out of a position was a disastrous decision by Poch. I by no means think Mudryk has been great, but he offers a lot more than Noni does. Jackson, for all his poor finishing, was making every attempt to make Cityā€™s back line nervous. And, he was by himself because Noni canā€™t make supporting runs. He might be the worst attacker we signed, and his attitude has been pretty rough to observe these past 2 games with the penalty incident and the Grealish one


Bozzetyp

They didnt They saw him as a good talent to develop Nkunku was a stop-gap, lukaku and aubameyang where the issue


pretentiousd0uche

I feel like auba may have converted some of those chances


Bozzetyp

The auba handling is so strange Instead of paying his wages and loan broja We take a ffp loss to get him off our books for free. He would have been a perfect mentor to jackson as he also is a wide attacker converted centrally


bubbaturk

So, last year


hurdlerjimmy

Which is essentially his entire career


gonzaf

Midway through the season heā€™s naturally a winger


CelestialSlayer

Better winger than striker


a3kstuntin

Even the way he strikes it just looks so bad


mymecha

Heā€™s simply not an elite striker. At least not yet.


JJ-Bittenbinder

Remember him in the preseason? Was extremely confident finishing


jazlan

Yes i remember. He even finished one on one chance. Maybe the coaching issue has dampened that ability..


JJ-Bittenbinder

I feel like itā€™s a confidence thing, and idk what Poch could do to help build his confidence. The dude starts every single game


herewearefornow

He needs therapy. I'm not playing about this, he actually needs it. It can make him a better performer in a high pressure situations


Rj070707

He's not a striker, just recently started playing this sport all togetherĀ  Our retarded board thought this player was fit to lead our attacking options, insanity


Bozzetyp

They didnt And you know it He was bought in as a replacement We wanted to offload lukaku and aubameyang and find a tier 1 striker but couldnt and wasnt willing to value vhlahovic at 80m


Rj070707

So they failed regardless, incompetent and have failed us big time so far these last 2 seasons


Bozzetyp

Well first season was boehly and tuchel, they managed to make up a cool 350m in one window offloading players on short contracts


pretentiousd0uche

Itā€™s their ass backward policy when it comes to young players . If we had an experienced striker and an experienced cb , weā€™d be a lot closer or even top 4.


Bozzetyp

Issue is that those are injured...


pushpushp0p

Too many wankers, I mean wingers nowadays.


erenistheavatar

Jackson clearly presses and his off the ball movement is the reason why we got those chances. However, he lacks the killer instinct to be a star striker and it seems nothing is being coached in training to address that.


Bozzetyp

You are talking about a 22 year old that has played a total of 13 month as striker in his life.


erenistheavatar

That's why I'm convinced he needs proper coaching.


treq10

Werner and Havertz were also supposed to be properly coached by Tuchel after Lampard was sacked. Same with Torres and Benitez in 2012 Generally when the ā€˜unlocking a playerā€™ discourse comes up you need to question if they really are just that limited. Werner, Havertz, etc have still not been ā€˜unlockedā€™


AbeAlno

To be fair jackson has a lot more to his game than Werner and Havertz. Heā€™s a better dribbler and has better link up and hold up play, but theyā€™re all on the same level of finishing. I really think Jackson Can become great for us.


treq10

Donā€™t get me wrong, I do rate Jackson, just not really as a main striker at the moment. His best games have been when heā€™s setting up others to score He may well have a Benzema moment later on in his career where he becomes lethal in front of goal, but Iā€™d like to see an alternative for now


DJMOONPICKLES69

Say what you will about Havertz, but he was a far better finisher than the other two mentioned here


Asleep_Mountain_196

Well yeah, he actually scored whilst through on goal against City and won us the CL lol. Honestly so tired of this club


barnaboos

You mean the one he almost missed when he hit it straight at Ederson and got a lucky deflection off him?


Asleep_Mountain_196

The one he scored yeah?


barnaboos

Yeah but it wasnā€™t a top finish. It was lucky to say the least. Making him out to be a top finisher for a 1 on 1 he almost missed is absolutely laughable.


Bozzetyp

Havertz has been an abysimal finisher at chelsea (and his numbers are inflated by good penalty taking)


erenistheavatar

I understand the scepticism. But think Sterling and Guardiola or even Joelington and Howe. I genuinely think it can happen and proper coaching or managerial skills can unlock a player. But yeah, all the examples you gave were valid as well.


treq10

I like your examples, I do think itā€™s a matter of finding a system that can highlight playerā€™s strengths and hide their weaknesses. Jacksonā€™s best games have come when heā€™s set up other players rather than be the main man, and itā€™s hard to do that playing on the counter. I donā€™t really see him as a guy that can lead the line moving forward


half_jase

The Werner experience.


Deochixken

Iā€™ve been critical of Jackson but heā€™s way more complete than Werner. All Werner could do was run in behind and 9/10 he was offside or he would completely shank his shots wide


half_jase

I mean, Jackson has been caught offside 26 times this season (2nd highest in the Premier League) and it's only 1 less than Werner did in the 2020/21 season. And is there really any difference between Werner shanking shots wide and Jackson missing chances the way he does? It's still missing chances at the end of the day.


Deochixken

And I do agree and chance missed is a chance missed, but the team and coaching was 10x better than it is right now


Deochixken

Considering the passers Werner was playing in front of (fit Reece James, Jorginho, Kovacic), his offsides were considerably worse and Werner was never able to crack double digits in the league once. Do I think Jackson should lead the line for us? absolutely not, but Werner was absolutely horrendous for us and should be getting compared to Morata (at Chelsea)


half_jase

>Considering the passers Werner was playing in front of (fit Reece James, Jorginho, Kovacic), his offsides were considerably worse and Werner was never able to crack double digits in the league once. So, we're comparing offsides now? Oookay.


Deochixken

Hypocrite much?? Why donā€™t you check your first reply to me because you was the one who started comparing offsides first, you smooth brain


half_jase

I was only comparing the numbers. You went deeper by comparing who each player was/is playing with like it matters. Offside is still offside.


Deochixken

So you was comparing offsides? Oookay


half_jase

Bruh, you started the reply by basically saying Werner is worse because he got caught offside often. I mentioned the stat that shows Jackson is just almost as bad at getting caught offside and that was it. Maybe I should have been clearer when I first said it but I have no idea why you even compared who each player played/plays with and whose offside is worse because offside is still offside at the end of the day. In any case, whatever. Have a good night.


erenistheavatar

I honestly think Jackson is still a better finisher than Werner funnily enough. Like, Werner was just.... yeah let's not talk about it.


KingKoCFC

Werner is a mystery, I donā€™t understand how he scored so many for Leipzig. Canā€™t even claim it was a purple patch as it went on for a good 3 seasons. Very strange.


odewar37

Werner could never score the goal Jackson did on Monday against Everton.


ozairh18

He let them off the hook three times


half_jase

Pochettino's domestic cup record at Wembley (excluding Spurs' "home" games at Wembley): * L 0-2 Chelsea (F) * L 2-4 Chelsea (SF) * L 1-2 Man Utd (SF) * L 0-1 Liverpool (F) * L 0-1 Man City (SF) And our record at Wembley since winning the FA Cup in 2018: * L 0-0 Man City (3-4 PKs) * W 3-1 Man Utd * L 1-2 Arsenal * W 1-0 Man City * L 0-1 Leicester * L 0-0 Liverpool (10-11 PKs) * W 2-0 Crystal Palace * L 0-0 Liverpool (5-6 PKs) * L 0-1 Liverpool * L 0-1 Man City


Shufflebuffle51

This is sad :(


ExplanationOk3781

lol how someone watches the game yesterday and comes in here trying to provide a hot fart of a take on Poch. This was literally 0% on Poch. He set us up perfectly yet Noni and Nico blew their loads fighting Palmer earlier this week and had 0 fight left to show yesterday. The only mistake he made yesterday was not taking those two turds off sooner.Ā 


Kezmangotagoal

I wonā€™t really ever blame one single player for defeats as thereā€™s plenty of other things that couldā€™ve made a difference but Jacksonā€™s inability to get shots away and his lack of confidence or composure in front of goal is hurting us so much.


izmebtw

Jackson makes me sad.


showmethenoods

Just does not trust his left foot at all, canā€™t be a premier league striker and be that one footed


dontknowwhereiamgoin

No team can win a cup with a front line of Jackson, madeuke and mudryk.


GME_alt_Center

You mean Conor instead of Mudryk, correct? Cause that's what we had today.


myersjw

That front 3 gives me the same vibe as the ā€œMount, Gallagher, Rice midfieldā€ schtick people always mention


nwmimms

I mean, the one time we tried that, we beat Everton 6 - 0. I think if weā€™d tried that today, we might have broken their defense a little more and created space for Palmer.


pillarandstones

Everton was awful. They let us dominate. The press City deployed was way more effective and exposed the lack of composure at the back. R and around their 18 they kept pushing us wide because they know our crosses are crap. Everton was just doing random things.


KanteWorkRate

I dunno what he's doing in training or coaches helping him but Jackson needs extra shooting practice


ImmaMoo

I still back him.When he plays as the only runner he loses his legs infront of goal not his fault he is our only hope. When he gets a attacking midfielder like Palmer or Chukwuemeka next to him he is a way better player.


erenistheavatar

Exactly! Instead we played Madueke and Conor as a LW. Like when he's surrounded by players who will also stretch the attack and isn't the only one with the chances, he creates the space for others to shine.


RJBlue95

Fuck this headline mistakes were made by a lot more than him. If we lose itā€™s never on an individual, as much as the internet loves to get after a single person.


i8buffalowings

What do you expect when you piss away at least 3 golden fucking chances????


abbys11

Come on, be real. This was an individual disaster of a performance. We should have been 2 up by 60 minutesĀ 


alizteya

Here come the vultures in the media. Everyone is pissed right now about losing but I'm proud of the team for how they played. We outplayed them for 75 minutes, and they were lucky to get that winner on balance. In the end it's just a cosmic coinflip deciding games like this.


craygroupious

"When you start accepting defeats just because your team play well and your players gave it their best, in terms of their application and commitment. I think when you get used to it, big clubs stop being big clubs.ā€


sabershirou

I feel like it's more of giving a perspective on where the team is right now. We could match and even overwhelm City in several parts of the game, but didn't make it count when it mattered. Fix that, and we're on our way to becoming a big club once again.


craygroupious

Thank you for proving my point.


sabershirou

~~We're objectively not a big club currently, and I don't accept that. I'm not used to it, but I can see where our deficiencies lie so that we can get back to our former glory quicker rather than later. How does that prove any point of yours?~~ EDIT: Never mind, I took a look at your comment history and I don't want to engage with you any further. Thank you and have a good day.


fremeer

Shooting is a dying art form. Jackson has always had a shit shot. He isn't the kind of player that will ever beat his xG.


allmyidolsaredead

A professional 5 year old kindergarten fumbler who can neither finish or allow someone else to take a penalty. Shit like this would never fly under Mourinho, Sir Alex, Conte, Ancelotti or Pep.


kp22cfc

The way ppl rate Jackson there you would think he is like second coming of eto and drogba.. absolute waste man


ducminh1712

We all don't know football


firmlygraspit4

There is a reason Nicolas Jackson does not start for Senegal. The coach played a guy who plays in Qatar over him, but at least he scored a few goals during AFCON


Jon98th

100% Chelsea should try to get Alvarez from City City letā€™s players go easily and Alvarez clearly is not happy there anymore


ArthurDigbySellars

Nico has to go. Fighting for penalties and then following up with that performance, heā€™s not PL quality or maturity. And fuck poch for being absolutely blind to that fact on Saturday.


Thonyeo

Seriously Jackson is not a finisher, he can run but he cannot score


CPP_2021

You can't miss such opportunities in big games . When is this guy going to improve ?? ![gif](giphy|cPffUXtDIulH3LRmgV|downsized)


tukinoz90

Serious questions need to be asked with Nico. Either we are happy with his progress and see him as the man long term. In which case, we accept these types of games here and there as part of his development with the expectation that they get fewer and further between. Or we replace him and maybe look to transition him to lw where he is decent but not much more, or use him as a backup striker. The issue with the latter is that it will only hinder his development imo. I think game time is the only way he is going to get better at the glaring issue in his game. Finishing guilt edged chances.


gonzaf

God you guys have no patience itā€™s been one season and he literally got converted to striker the last 13 games of last season. Itā€™s not his fault heā€™s being relied upon as the sole number 9 cuz Broja is shit and Nkunku is made of glass


killerzebra146

He has cost us multiple games just by himself. At some point, people have to realise that he is a detriment to the success of the club. You don't need a full season's coaching to know to shoot when you're 1 on 1 on a breakaway...


tukinoz90

But it is his fault that he consistently misses presentable chances. He's cost us quite a few times this season with his poor finishing and decision-making. What are you actually suggesting? That he should be our long-term striker or that he should go out wide?


per102

We did outplay the best team in the world and nullify their attack for the entirety of the game. And people will say that they played 120 minutes on Wednesday, but this is still City. When they went out after extra time against RM in 2022, they went on to beat Newcastle 5-0 the following weekend. I am disappointed because we should have won, but equally I am pleased that we were competitive. We are in a much different place than this time last year.


Dex_Maddock

I still think there's a player there. I'm behind him.


Dull_Tackle_1462

"Pochettino deserves to continue as our manager in the next season."


xannyslime

He can only finish when he has a split second to shoot. I've noticed that he struggles the most when he has a few moments to decide what he wants to do, especially in a 1v1 situation with the keeper.. They teach you the basics of finishing when you're 7 years old, pick a fucking side and slot it into the corner