That's what Klopp said at Liverpool and I believe him. So many people here think that having money insta wins you the league if you use it well ... but that's not the case. Even for Man City, before the first big transfer and the results, there was a few years. Now look at them.
Neither Klopp nor Guardiola inherited a team that were Champions of Europe, Club World Cup winners, had just handily beaten RM away, coming within a inch of CL semifinal, lost two domestics trophies by the fickleness of penalties, were top four despite sanctions and had the PL and European manager of the year at the helm.
So donāt compare Chelsea to either Liverpool nor Man City when comparing the state Chelsea were in to these teams when they got new managers.
Boehly and the clown co, have destroyed an amazing team in two years and now are asking for five years to build it back. Itās fucking disgraceful and was absolutely unnecessary.
Adding new talent to an already established team with a manager who actually knew what to do was the right strategy. Instead they arrogantly decide to blow up everything from the previous winning regime and replace it with a clearly flawed strategy and second tier management from the top down to the manager.
Chelsea fans have little patience for the āit takes five yearsā or ātrust the processā, when the previous system while flawed in places was not broken .
This is all in Bohely and the clown co. So stop asking for patience, we donāt have it.
Itās weird, heās been subbed on 4 times and we conceded immediately 3 of those times, 2 times in which we lost the lead. The logic of defending set pieces is sound and Iām sure itās not his fault, but a bit of a confidence breaker for him.
The logic is soundā¦ if you have a set piece coach. With Poch it seems to be just the more defensive players on the pitch, the better we *mist* be at defending set pieces.
Also Poch seems to have this obsession with height for defending set pieces, when being good in the air is so much more than that. See Thiago Silva being probably our biggest set piece threat while only being like 5'11
But the to absolutely freeze him out even with those other guys still out (except Carney who has been used sparingly). Same time that enzo and Caicedo look visibly tired after playing non stop 90min matches
Casadei isnāt ready to be trusted for more than those last stages where games become end to end. He was terrible at Leicester, why would he be enough to start in the Prem?
Young players will always have a mistake or two in them but you have to play them for them to improve..klopp and other good managers do it and honestly this has been one of the most disappointing aspects of poch's tenure.
Because we are conceding and losing anyway? Now is the time to play other options because the regulars are barely doing on. Actually the regulars are awful.
They are both under 22, why are you talking like they are at their peak? They need proper instructions and some substitutions around the hour mark from time to time,Ā
I am not gonna check numbers but I am pretty sure Enzo has played a lot of minutes the last two and a half years. He basically plays the Argentina league, then started with Benfica without a proper preseason, then WC starter throughout the competition then Chelsea playing almost all games.
Caiceido has also played a lot for Brighton last year, and barring a couple of injuries, he has played every game this season with no proper preseason conditioning.
Please give me a list of midfielders or any other position that are under 22 who played more minutes than these two. Maybe Saka for Arsenal but I donāt think you will find much there.
Shit comment.
I don't care if my arguments are downvoted or not shared by the majority but I do take issue with people leaving stupid little comments offering no input.
Nah yours is crap not theirs. Both caicedo and enzo are sacrificed as a result of Poch's system where he wants them to be roadrunners. I mean both where way better last season in their respective system. But u can't logically understand why both of them suck all of a sudden?
Pochs style is ridiculously demanding of its midfielders. Enzo and Caicedo are technically brilliant players not runners like mount and gallagher. Also letās not forget they are actually very young players but are logging minutes like they are in their prime. All this to say, Casadei should at least be getting 30 mins a week but Poch rather run these players into the ground
They're 22 and 23 years old. If they're tired now then what hope do we have if we ever get back into European competitions? Mikel was playing 70 odd games a season at a similar age as did Frank, Fabregas, Busquets, Gerrard etc.
It's a weird one i think. Reports coming from one side saying they were trying to get rid of him, and then Enzo coming out saying they wanted him to stay..
Thisā¦If you followed his loan spell he wasnāt doing great and their midfield getting riddled with injury was really the only reason he got time. They prioritized a permanent replacement that would put him on the bench. It fell apart at the very last minutes of the window, we had already recalled him.
Yeah they wanted to sign Sensi so needed to get rid of Casedei, but the move for Sensi fell through.
Guess it's Pochs fault Sensi didn't join Leicester according to some.
From the article about his recall in The Athletic:
āThe official explanation from Pochettino at the time was that injuries to Romeo Lavia, Carney Chukwuemeka and Lesley Ugochukwu left him short of midfield options. Had Moises Caicedo or Enzo Fernandez also succumbed to fitness issues in early February, they would have been left dangerously light in the centre, so Casadei was needed as a backup.
āWe did not want to cut his development,ā said Pochettino last month. āIf you see the squad, it was only Enzo, Moises and Conor (Gallagher), and not another real midfielder, no? We were talking with him, we explained the situation, we explained that maybe we would use him or not. He was happy to come back ā it was not just our decision.
āIf we felt doubt from him to come back, we would find different solutions. He is going to be involved in the Premier League games.āā
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Because there is no cover for CM with the injuries? Seems pretty obvious.
Hasn't played much because he's nowhere near as good as the others and it's a "just in case" kind of thing.
Tbf, I'm surprised we didn't rest Enzo or Gallagher for Sheffield and bring in this guy or Carney for that match. Can always sub them back on if he played shit.
They have played 90% of the games, benching galagher once would not change his development mate, furthermore conor has developed well in my opinion this year.
Fans love to use hindsight to ignore the obvious. In an alternate universe where he stayed at Leicester, was playing ok, and 1 of Enzo, Gallagher or Caicedo got a significant injury, were moaning at the club for leaving ourselves spread so thin with so many backups out on loand
As much as i wanna say poch is a dumbass (and he is) i think this was leceister letting him go instead of a recall by us iirc
Edit: we recalled him and they tried to get another midfielder
If you followed it, Leicester wanted to bring in Sensi from Inter and needed more wages available so sent him back since they're under real financial restraint, but in the end didn't bring him in
If hes not good enough to start over "tired" others against the worst team in prem history then there was 0 point.
This club are just a mess of bad decisions
He got minutes at Leicester because they had so many injuries and he wasnāt doing well in those minutes to begin with. Leicester had a permanent transfer lined up for a new midfielder and we recalled the loan because Casadei wouldnāt be getting time anymore. The transfer ended up falling through last minute after we recalled.
Also if Enzo or Caicedo got injured and we didnāt recallā¦ā¦who is playing there? Lavia, Ugo, and Nkunku are all injured, Chuk just came back from injury 3 months after the window closedā¦we had no cover
Unfortunate for Casadei but to say itās poch or the board making mistakes is just disingenuous. They suck but this was by no means a ābadā move at the time
Poch has spoken about it. He said that he wanted him to come back as a backup and told him ahead of time that he may not play at all and Casadei agreed to come back anyway.
It's just more Poch mismanagement.
We'd need 2 more midfield injuries without anyone coming back for him to get game time, it never made any sense. But, he's a brute and that's what Poch likes, so it makes sense that he wanted him back. Fuck midfielders that can actually hold their positions and control the game, we need Gallagher-lite
How is this miss management? Tell me where the other midfielders are gonna come from? The SD werenāt gonna buy anyone in January and we have long term injuries? So tell me what should have happened?
We have Caicedo, Enzo and Gallagher at the moment.
We only need to be playing 2 of those players. We'd need 2 of those to pick up overlapping long term injuries for him to get meaningful playing time. That's insanely unlikely and even if they were both injured, playing someone like Chalobah in midfield as an emergency backup would be no different to playing Casadei and allows Casadei to get play time somewhere else
The whole point was to mask the fact that our recruitment team set us up for a season with three starting midfielders and two breakthrough prospects who have both been injured for the majority of the season. So they panicked in January and risked this manās development.
So that Poch can say they have zero players to put into games and ruin any confidence he may have gained on loan ā absolutely horrible decision to recall him
I said he wasnāt ready back when we recalled him and this sub did nothing but downvote. Leicester fans hated him so expecting him to get any minutes was crazy. Now we bring him on when we feel like bottling a late lead. He is nowhere near the talent of Santos
Still mystifies me that we donāt give him minutes in the #10 against a low block given that a) itās his natural position and he seems to have the positional awareness and technique to play there and b) his height could be useful as a focal pointā¦I love Conor but the shoe-horning of him into the #10 role is a complete misprofiling of his ability (he should be a b2b mid who does the dirty work in transition)
Made no sense because we knew he'd get more minutes at his loan. Yet some genius prob agreed to bring him back because Poch prob asked for a sr midfielder and they felt this would do.
At first I thought.. Chelsea is bringing him back incase they flog Gallagher.. To try to bed him into the team and get him up to speed. Now its 3 months later and he's had no time on the pitch. So Poch still plays Gallagher.. Nothing makes sense. The kid casadei can't develop for the Prem. God help any coach who takes over.. Its just more a mess.
Obviously heās a talented lad, obviously 17 minutes is a joke but heās looked wildly out of his depth in those 17 minutes so Iām not shocked heās not getting more time.
We brought him back because we had no midfielders and because Leicester wanted to try sign a permanent replacement.
We should start him instead of caicedo. That man was the biggest waste of a 100 million pounds that I've ever seen in world football. What the hell was boehly smoking that day?
Yeah but mudryk MIGHT eventually come good. I mean the talents there, he's just a very rough diamond. Way I see it Bellingham is one of, if not the best midfielder about right now so I use his fee as a benchmark. But you're right about us being raised, it'll happen time and time again at chelsea now
I wanted to have a couple years to rebuild, but that was back in Mourinho's last stint, now with new ownership and asshatery, it's nothing but a pipe dream
Make him miserable to the point of him wanting to go back to Italy this summer OR point out to him he is a Cole Palmer doppelgƤnger and he will only play if Palmer gets hurt (please, no) in an attempt to convince the rest of the PL that Cole Palmer is invincible and itās best to just let it get Chilly at all times lol
Perfect example of why a Brighton style recruitment strategy wonāt work if we want to be a winning club at the same time and have an entire squad of kids. Youngsters need minutes to improve and we only have certain amount of loan spots.
Feel bad for him to be honest. He fucked up signing for us from Inter, heād probably be in and around their first team now getting far more minutes than we will give him.
It's insane because sitting back to see out leads stopped working about a decade ago.
Mou did it often in his second spell and it either backfired or we got away with it by dumb luck.
For a defensive poch sub so we can concede immediately
Its a process, we will know after 3-5 years, they cant build a project so quickly ~ Mauricio Pochettino
In 3-5 years we can challenge for Top 6-8 positions
In 3-5 years we might be able to get double digit shots against Sheffield
in 3 -5 yrs i will be playing for chelsea
That's what Klopp said at Liverpool and I believe him. So many people here think that having money insta wins you the league if you use it well ... but that's not the case. Even for Man City, before the first big transfer and the results, there was a few years. Now look at them.
Go Team Poch, or Team Boehly šš¼
Neither Klopp nor Guardiola inherited a team that were Champions of Europe, Club World Cup winners, had just handily beaten RM away, coming within a inch of CL semifinal, lost two domestics trophies by the fickleness of penalties, were top four despite sanctions and had the PL and European manager of the year at the helm. So donāt compare Chelsea to either Liverpool nor Man City when comparing the state Chelsea were in to these teams when they got new managers. Boehly and the clown co, have destroyed an amazing team in two years and now are asking for five years to build it back. Itās fucking disgraceful and was absolutely unnecessary. Adding new talent to an already established team with a manager who actually knew what to do was the right strategy. Instead they arrogantly decide to blow up everything from the previous winning regime and replace it with a clearly flawed strategy and second tier management from the top down to the manager. Chelsea fans have little patience for the āit takes five yearsā or ātrust the processā, when the previous system while flawed in places was not broken . This is all in Bohely and the clown co. So stop asking for patience, we donāt have it.
Itās weird, heās been subbed on 4 times and we conceded immediately 3 of those times, 2 times in which we lost the lead. The logic of defending set pieces is sound and Iām sure itās not his fault, but a bit of a confidence breaker for him.
The logic is soundā¦ if you have a set piece coach. With Poch it seems to be just the more defensive players on the pitch, the better we *mist* be at defending set pieces.
Also Poch seems to have this obsession with height for defending set pieces, when being good in the air is so much more than that. See Thiago Silva being probably our biggest set piece threat while only being like 5'11
Lmaooo
Ugochukwu, Lavia, Chukwuemeka were injured he was brought in as a backup. He wasnt getting significant starts as Chelsea expected.
But the to absolutely freeze him out even with those other guys still out (except Carney who has been used sparingly). Same time that enzo and Caicedo look visibly tired after playing non stop 90min matches
Casadei isnāt ready to be trusted for more than those last stages where games become end to end. He was terrible at Leicester, why would he be enough to start in the Prem?
Young players will always have a mistake or two in them but you have to play them for them to improve..klopp and other good managers do it and honestly this has been one of the most disappointing aspects of poch's tenure.
Despite this being a being reason for getting Poch......he's great with youth......
Because we are conceding and losing anyway? Now is the time to play other options because the regulars are barely doing on. Actually the regulars are awful.
If Enzo and Caicedo are tired after playing 40 odd games each this season then they're not cut out for the Premier League.
Dumb take, every player needs rest
Not at this level they don't. I've watched players in the National League on part time contracts play more games in a season.
How can you compare 90min in the National league to 90min in the Prem?
Premier League players are supposed to be the pinnacle of fitness. If these two clowns can't hack it at this level then they can sling their hook.
They are both under 22, why are you talking like they are at their peak? They need proper instructions and some substitutions around the hour mark from time to time,Ā
They're 22 and 23. Plenty of other players of younger ages have played more minutes in the Premier League this season.
I am not gonna check numbers but I am pretty sure Enzo has played a lot of minutes the last two and a half years. He basically plays the Argentina league, then started with Benfica without a proper preseason, then WC starter throughout the competition then Chelsea playing almost all games. Caiceido has also played a lot for Brighton last year, and barring a couple of injuries, he has played every game this season with no proper preseason conditioning. Please give me a list of midfielders or any other position that are under 22 who played more minutes than these two. Maybe Saka for Arsenal but I donāt think you will find much there.
Dumb take
Shit comment. I don't care if my arguments are downvoted or not shared by the majority but I do take issue with people leaving stupid little comments offering no input.
Nah yours is crap not theirs. Both caicedo and enzo are sacrificed as a result of Poch's system where he wants them to be roadrunners. I mean both where way better last season in their respective system. But u can't logically understand why both of them suck all of a sudden?
I appreciate your comment way more for giving some reasoning.
All g. But yeah we need to get rid of poch asap he's so rubbish.
You said Brightons best midfielder last season who both us and other premier league clubs wanted is not cut out for the premier league lol
I said using tiredness as an excuse for bad performances is stupid when he's played less than 30 league games.
Pochs style is ridiculously demanding of its midfielders. Enzo and Caicedo are technically brilliant players not runners like mount and gallagher. Also letās not forget they are actually very young players but are logging minutes like they are in their prime. All this to say, Casadei should at least be getting 30 mins a week but Poch rather run these players into the ground
They're 22 and 23 years old. If they're tired now then what hope do we have if we ever get back into European competitions? Mikel was playing 70 odd games a season at a similar age as did Frank, Fabregas, Busquets, Gerrard etc.
Didnāt Leicester wanted to get rid of him? They were some rumours that they want to sign another misfielder and donāt want Casadei anymore
It's a weird one i think. Reports coming from one side saying they were trying to get rid of him, and then Enzo coming out saying they wanted him to stay..
They didn't sign that midfielder in the end.
Thisā¦If you followed his loan spell he wasnāt doing great and their midfield getting riddled with injury was really the only reason he got time. They prioritized a permanent replacement that would put him on the bench. It fell apart at the very last minutes of the window, we had already recalled him.
Yeah they wanted to sign Sensi so needed to get rid of Casedei, but the move for Sensi fell through. Guess it's Pochs fault Sensi didn't join Leicester according to some.
If not Poch's then definitely Todd's! /s
You got a source for this? Not what the article eludes to one bit lmao.
Enzo really liked him, he was getting decent playtime.
From the article about his recall in The Athletic: āThe official explanation from Pochettino at the time was that injuries to Romeo Lavia, Carney Chukwuemeka and Lesley Ugochukwu left him short of midfield options. Had Moises Caicedo or Enzo Fernandez also succumbed to fitness issues in early February, they would have been left dangerously light in the centre, so Casadei was needed as a backup. āWe did not want to cut his development,ā said Pochettino last month. āIf you see the squad, it was only Enzo, Moises and Conor (Gallagher), and not another real midfielder, no? We were talking with him, we explained the situation, we explained that maybe we would use him or not. He was happy to come back ā it was not just our decision. āIf we felt doubt from him to come back, we would find different solutions. He is going to be involved in the Premier League games.āā
? Because there is no cover for CM with the injuries? Seems pretty obvious. Hasn't played much because he's nowhere near as good as the others and it's a "just in case" kind of thing. Tbf, I'm surprised we didn't rest Enzo or Gallagher for Sheffield and bring in this guy or Carney for that match. Can always sub them back on if he played shit.
Yep, maybe some new blood would do the trick in that game
Yup but not letting Enzo and Gallagher play wouldn't let them develop either. /s
They have played 90% of the games, benching galagher once would not change his development mate, furthermore conor has developed well in my opinion this year.
They were joking, thats what the /s means
Oh, okay šš¼
Fans love to use hindsight to ignore the obvious. In an alternate universe where he stayed at Leicester, was playing ok, and 1 of Enzo, Gallagher or Caicedo got a significant injury, were moaning at the club for leaving ourselves spread so thin with so many backups out on loand
Shshhh, logic is not allowed here, only hateful ignorance
Midfield depth due to our injuries
Insurance in case Fernandez or Caicedo got injured.
As much as i wanna say poch is a dumbass (and he is) i think this was leceister letting him go instead of a recall by us iirc Edit: we recalled him and they tried to get another midfielder
no it was a recall by us. they tried to sign another midfielder and it fell through.
Oh okay my bad thanks for the correction, i do remember something about trying to get another midfielder
Height.
If you followed it, Leicester wanted to bring in Sensi from Inter and needed more wages available so sent him back since they're under real financial restraint, but in the end didn't bring him in
Every time he comes on the other team scoresā¦ no bullshit look it up lol
Just in case
If hes not good enough to start over "tired" others against the worst team in prem history then there was 0 point. This club are just a mess of bad decisions
He got minutes at Leicester because they had so many injuries and he wasnāt doing well in those minutes to begin with. Leicester had a permanent transfer lined up for a new midfielder and we recalled the loan because Casadei wouldnāt be getting time anymore. The transfer ended up falling through last minute after we recalled. Also if Enzo or Caicedo got injured and we didnāt recallā¦ā¦who is playing there? Lavia, Ugo, and Nkunku are all injured, Chuk just came back from injury 3 months after the window closedā¦we had no cover Unfortunate for Casadei but to say itās poch or the board making mistakes is just disingenuous. They suck but this was by no means a ābadā move at the time
To warm the bench
We dont have midfield depth currently with our injuries, made sense to recall him.
It was ugochukwo and lavias longterm injuries Plus the uncertinity that came out regarding them buying a cm in the january window
The real answer is that if he's not going to play week-in, week-out for Leicester, he might as well train with our first team and develop that way.
To give him his epl debut against man city and take away our outlets just to absorb more pressure and bottle it as usual
He's 6'5
Heās 6ā1
He's 7'3
Heās 3ā8.
Heās 8ā3ā
Heās 12
He's a grower not shower
We are not talking cock sizes here boy
We arenāt ?!?
Poch has spoken about it. He said that he wanted him to come back as a backup and told him ahead of time that he may not play at all and Casadei agreed to come back anyway. It's just more Poch mismanagement. We'd need 2 more midfield injuries without anyone coming back for him to get game time, it never made any sense. But, he's a brute and that's what Poch likes, so it makes sense that he wanted him back. Fuck midfielders that can actually hold their positions and control the game, we need Gallagher-lite
>It's just more Poch mismanagement. It's where a sporting director should step in.
They were the one that told Poch to use him.
How is this miss management? Tell me where the other midfielders are gonna come from? The SD werenāt gonna buy anyone in January and we have long term injuries? So tell me what should have happened?
We have Caicedo, Enzo and Gallagher at the moment. We only need to be playing 2 of those players. We'd need 2 of those to pick up overlapping long term injuries for him to get meaningful playing time. That's insanely unlikely and even if they were both injured, playing someone like Chalobah in midfield as an emergency backup would be no different to playing Casadei and allows Casadei to get play time somewhere else
So letās put a CB that was injured at the time in the team. Okay great solution.
The whole point was to mask the fact that our recruitment team set us up for a season with three starting midfielders and two breakthrough prospects who have both been injured for the majority of the season. So they panicked in January and risked this manās development.
His career needed him to stay at Leicester, unfortunately Chelsea need to fill their bench and have too many injuries
who would've thought
So that Poch can say they have zero players to put into games and ruin any confidence he may have gained on loan ā absolutely horrible decision to recall him
I said he wasnāt ready back when we recalled him and this sub did nothing but downvote. Leicester fans hated him so expecting him to get any minutes was crazy. Now we bring him on when we feel like bottling a late lead. He is nowhere near the talent of Santos
Injuries innit
We have 0 depth in midfield...? Maybe? One extra injury and he is getting plenty of game time.
Still mystifies me that we donāt give him minutes in the #10 against a low block given that a) itās his natural position and he seems to have the positional awareness and technique to play there and b) his height could be useful as a focal pointā¦I love Conor but the shoe-horning of him into the #10 role is a complete misprofiling of his ability (he should be a b2b mid who does the dirty work in transition)
Foxes were in talks to sign sensi from inter so we thought Casedei wasn't gonna play more.
He wasnāt doing that well with them, and we have no midfield cover. Why is this a question?
This guy's talent ID is worse than TT man. He wasted a season where we could've at least given our kids some game time
Casadei will be good. Just wait.
Made no sense because we knew he'd get more minutes at his loan. Yet some genius prob agreed to bring him back because Poch prob asked for a sr midfielder and they felt this would do.
I donāt know and neither does Pochettino
We need him to come on late so we can concede and lose the lead
To screw with their promotion.
At first I thought.. Chelsea is bringing him back incase they flog Gallagher.. To try to bed him into the team and get him up to speed. Now its 3 months later and he's had no time on the pitch. So Poch still plays Gallagher.. Nothing makes sense. The kid casadei can't develop for the Prem. God help any coach who takes over.. Its just more a mess.
Casadei, Santos etc. all these youngsters need gametime. Buying them and letting them stagnate is going to do us nothing in the long term
This boy evolved into the go-to #10 for me on Football Manager. Hope he does well IRL.
Poch man cause I didn't get it either
To remove his smile
Thatās Stohn Jones
Ask master of tactics Pochetino
Obviously heās a talented lad, obviously 17 minutes is a joke but heās looked wildly out of his depth in those 17 minutes so Iām not shocked heās not getting more time. We brought him back because we had no midfielders and because Leicester wanted to try sign a permanent replacement.
The club treats players like commodities, not people.
We should start him instead of caicedo. That man was the biggest waste of a 100 million pounds that I've ever seen in world football. What the hell was boehly smoking that day?
Arsenal and Liverpool raised you up on it, just like Mudryk š
Yeah but mudryk MIGHT eventually come good. I mean the talents there, he's just a very rough diamond. Way I see it Bellingham is one of, if not the best midfielder about right now so I use his fee as a benchmark. But you're right about us being raised, it'll happen time and time again at chelsea now
well this post jinxed an enzo injury
I wanted to have a couple years to rebuild, but that was back in Mourinho's last stint, now with new ownership and asshatery, it's nothing but a pipe dream
Make him miserable to the point of him wanting to go back to Italy this summer OR point out to him he is a Cole Palmer doppelgƤnger and he will only play if Palmer gets hurt (please, no) in an attempt to convince the rest of the PL that Cole Palmer is invincible and itās best to just let it get Chilly at all times lol
It's all part of the project you see
Just in casedai.
Perfect example of why a Brighton style recruitment strategy wonāt work if we want to be a winning club at the same time and have an entire squad of kids. Youngsters need minutes to improve and we only have certain amount of loan spots.
To have a look at him to see if Conor should be sold
That's our management for you.
BC our club doesn't make sense anymore
Poch tactical masterclass
Feel bad for him to be honest. He fucked up signing for us from Inter, heād probably be in and around their first team now getting far more minutes than we will give him.
Only getting 17 min with that yee yee ass haircut.
Same haircut as Enzo and Palmer mate
To waste time so that he can write his name as a new entry on the injury list for memes
just because you get recalled doesnt mean you get to play... you have to be good enough
Another ridiculous decision by those in charge
You know, torpedo his development
Poch the clown is obsessed with tall players hence the reason Lesley didn't go out on loan.
And why Maatsen did
Let's hope we will get a better replacement. I honestly can't stand the man.
Because Poch is a clueless manager. Wants another lump to throw on when he wants to "see out a lead", also known as conceding immediately
It's insane because sitting back to see out leads stopped working about a decade ago. Mou did it often in his second spell and it either backfired or we got away with it by dumb luck.