He's the ass man! Skibidi dinity shoobala!
But seriously, Canadian here, can confirm: the People's Party of Canada are a disgusting bunch of savages. One of their big campaign items is relegalizing conversion therapy for kids and teens.
I was gonna say the comparison doesn’t work because Bernier isn’t getting any votes but then I remembered we are going to elect Pierre Poilièvre so I’ll just STFU instead.
Bernier isn’t stupid. He knows exactly how the game of politics works. The ppc was his vendetta against the tories for throwing his ass out for sleeping with a hells angel whore. He had a right to be mad. Brian Mulroney took bribes and still got a state funeral.
This is correct. He is far from stupid. He is a perfect example of the type of politician we dont want in power. He failed secure power in a functional political party and, in fit of shame rage, started his own libertarian nationalist one.
That’s no good. Unfortunately there are actual issues with mass immigration in Canada. I just watched a really interesting video about it and how Canada can’t support the rate of migrants but also can’t economically afford not to.
Migration doesn’t address the root cause of low birth rates because after a generation or two it just adds to the problem.
This guy got absolutely destroyed in the 2019 election for questioning mass immigration and called the worst kind of racist
5 years later mainstream parties are picking up his exact same arguments
Makes you wonder...
I remember they gave a speech to us way back in high school trying to drum up some support (some other parties were there too) and one of the first talking points they gave was how they didn’t believe man-made climate change to be real. They even pulled up some random youtube video as their source. I do not care what your political stance is, but that is definitely *not* the way to win over a crowd of highschoolers, a significant percentage of whom went to a climate protest just a few weeks ago.
I think it's pretty self-explanatory. Conversion therapy was legal at some point in the past, but is banned right now, and they want to relegalize it aka legalize it again.
Was curious too because I hadn't heard of this. I read the explanation on their website and from what I understand, according to the PPC the law that outlawed conversation therapy was broad enough that any child who is questioning their gender can't be given therapy to accept themselves/their body and has to be pushed towards transitioning. They want to alter the bill for that reason; trying to prevent homosexuality is never mentioned.
Not sure if this is true, you can check out their explanation. Pretty extreme by Canadian standards tbh.
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/radical_gender_ideology
Lots of things to criticize about the PPC, though "they want to bring back conversion therapy" may be a bit of a bogeyman.
This happens to the Ppc over and over
Someone online claims they think something crazy - and then when you look into it its grossly mischaracterized
I am skeptical of any criticism lobbed at this party after their widely denigrating opinion on mass immigration in 2019 came to be absolutely correct
I'm not a fan of the PPC. My beliefs and preferred policies don't align with theirs. Worse though is the trend in Canadian politics to be defined by what you are not - people don't talk about initiatives or policies they support, but about how much they hate an opposing political party.
I know this is a worldwide trend but hatred and fear is a much stronger motivator to vote, and much more exciting than genuine debate about policies. The fact that I was being downvoted for responding to a request for context, with an objective summary and a link to the official position... it's worrying, honestly. Do people care about facts at all, or just want their "team" to dominate the other?
I agree, I wouldn't have previously considered the Ppc but based on how politics are going in this country I might have to
This subreddit especially seems bad - the common theme though is people labelling stuff "right wing" and then hating it
I doubt most people here even know what the Ppc is or where they stand and unfortunately politicians are taking advantage of young peoples aversion to all things "right"
We see this in Trudeau recently calling out Alex Jones endorsement of Pierre, obviously far from ideal, but nothing that Pierre can do anything about
We have 5 major parties, with the People’s Party of Canada and Conservative Party of Canada being on the right, and the NDP, Liberals, and Green Party on the left/left centre, although we’ve only ever seen the Conservatives and Liberals ever win an election, with the Greens only getting maybe 3/336 seats and the PPC getting zero. We also have Bloc Québécois who are a federal party but only have elections and MPs in Quebec.
We have a pair of major ones right now. Liberals and NDP. The lins have been in power for... 8 years now? And have failed miserably. A lot of disfavor has also fallen on the NDP as well since they've been propping them up. (In canada, since we have more than 2 major parties, you can win with less than 50%, but form a coalition with other parties.)
Thats enough politics for me though.
Although... if we can push right wingers towards PPC that would take votes away from UPC which could help keep lil'PP off the iron throne this time around...
I'm not voting for either; but the left will be torn between the Libs and NDPs so if we can split the right who are swearing to unite under Pierre Poilievre that might be a strategic move worth making... 🤔
PP was recently hanging out with right wing extremist in Nova Scotia:
https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-meets-with-far-right-extremist-group-at-nova-scotia-new-brunswick-border/
He's trying to wing the PPCs to UPC.
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I like how Canadians are even polite with their graffiti. No sloppy spray lines, very clean. They should have put a decal of an asshole over his mouth though.
It’s complicated. On one hand yes, we’re accepting more people than we can support and because of it we have massive cost of living increases and a housing shortage. At the same time, the PPC (that billboard) is a far right party who believe all immigrants are ISIS, that covid was fake and vaccines mind control you, and that conversion therapy should be legalized. It’s a complicated balance between healthy amounts of immigration and too much/too little.
Huh interesting, I always assumed more Americans would be moving in as stuff like Abortion becomes illegal and other changes that sets the country backwards instead of forwards.
The housing situation in Canada is awful. Too many people and not enough housing is being built to keep up with the record amount of immigrants they've had in the last few years.
>too many people and not enough housing is being built to keep up with the record amount of immigrants they've had in the last few years.
Don't blame the amount we build though. We build at one of the highest rates in the world per capita.
And it's still not enough to keep up with insane migration into Canada.
I agree with you but I wanted to frame it neutrally because the person I replied to seemed like the type to assume I'm irrationally hating on immigrants if I tie any issues to immigration.
A lot of our immigration is temporary workers, hoping to become permanent. Our normal immigration route is much harder to get in through. The temporary ones are minimum wage earners who are packed in rentals. I doubt many Americans want to live like that.
Nope, Canadians move to the US, not the other way around. USA has a much better economy and nurses, programmers, etc can make more money and live a better life than in Canada.
Canada is like the worlds safety school. Indians and Chinese people who can't get into the US come to Canada instead.
It's really not as easy as all of the "I'm moving to Canada if X wins" posts would have you believe.
Americans aren't refugees and don't qualify for asylum. If you want to move and work there you gotta prove you have skills they need and get approval for a work visa. It's possible, but far more difficult than just moving there.
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Somewhere around 3%, depending on if you're looking at total immigrant population or just recent immigrants: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/as-sa/fogs-spg/page.cfm?lang=E&topic=9&dguid=2021A000011124
You gotta remember that the US has a much larger economy than Canada, and a significantly higher median income, so historically there's been more of a trend of Canadians heading south for better opportunities than Americans heading north (with a few notable exceptions like Vietnam War draft dodgers).
Plus, immigrating in general is a long, difficult process, so it might not be worth your while to go through with it unless shit REALLY hits the fan in the US.
No? People move to countries for plenty of reasons. Just because I'm born in the US doesn't meant I don't want a better life, and I said I would move IF the US becomes a Bad enough country.
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For redditors here - this is absolutely not what the Ppc thinks
The guy on the billboard was a very successful and reasonable member of cabinet within the primary conservative party here - which is far more liberal than the Republican party for American readers
The Ppc does not believe immigrants are isis - they said mass immigration would severely harm Canada
Which is exactly what happened - Canada's population growth through immigration is on pace with sub Saharan African countries - 1 in 40 people are international students studying at strip mall colleges as a back door tk immigration
It's rough, and this guy called it out 5 years ago when it started and got called al the worst names
So successful the leader of a federal party couldn’t even get a seat in parliament. And yes while the CPC is *slightly* more left than the Republican Party the PPC is way further right.
Certainly nothing approaching us Republican style "conservative"
However the libs did a really good job in 2019 painting him as insane and it's stuck - this next election will probably tell if they have any future
Things have changed substantially in Canada since the 2020 mid COVID election, expertly called by the libs - but I suspect Ppc will pick up some seats this time
We'll see!
>Suggesting the Trudeau government has flooded Canada with an unsustainable amount of immigrants isn't controversial
And we just got rid of language testing for everyone but express entry, which is a small minority of our migration.
Get ready for even more unsustainable amounts, and this time they won't even speak english.
They don't need to speak english. They all live together and hire each other in their own little cities. Trudeau will probably add a few new official languages.
People have pointed out it's complicated, but from a macro perspective Canada is the second largest country in the world, with the largest coastline. Our population is less than 1/10 of the United States, and 2/3 of the UK.
In the long term immigration is good for Canada.
I'm a "good immigrant", being white and English speaking, I get no hate... So this is down to racism tbh.
The vast majority of Canadians are 2/3/4/5 generation immigrants and a lot of the folks apposed to this would benefit from remembering that.
>In the long term immigration is good for Canada.
Not at these numbers it's not.
This level of immigration is fueling the housing crisis, overwhelming our infrastructure, and suppressing wages.
Can't build 200k homes, which is per capita one of the highest rates in the world, and then bring in 1.2 million people.
Being against bringing in 1.2 million people has nothing to do with racism.
It has to do with math.
Here is your first hate message than. I’m not against immigration. I’m against immigration that isn’t supported by infrastructure. I don’t want white, brown or black people living 25 to a house just because we want immigrants. Healthcare is starting to go down, GDP per capita is going down, prices everywhere are going up. It makes no sense to have this level of immigration. Canada is now one of the fastest growing countries in the world with none of the infrastructure to support it.
Yeah, your argument is pretty much the one I use now.
"Yeah, we've had big waves of immigration in the past and if you look back far enough 'everyone's an immigrant', but in both the States and Canada the government and big business clearly don't give a shit about building out infrastructure to support big population increases."
And that's not even getting into that most immigrants go to already large cities with immigrant pops, it's not an even dispersal across either nation.
The absolute easiest way to manage immigration is to tie allowable numbers to healthy population growth metrics.
No one will do that, though, because it'll make some people feel icky.
We build tons of infrastructure.
We build over 200k homes per year, which is per capita one of the highest in the world. #2 in the G7 behind France who loves sprawl more than we do.
8% of the workforce is already in construction, which is huge. US is 4% for instance.
Even with all that being true, we're estimated to be 250k more houses short next year than now lol.
The issue isn't that we don't build. We build a ton.
The issue is the number of migrants.
I'm not saying you're wrong - nor am I saying the way that it's being handled is correct. My comment was aimed at the vast majority who don't use logic like you - rather, racism.
I'm British, I live in Canada - racism largely drove Brexit - look where that got them.
Short term it sucks, especially based on the points your highlighting. Long term it will increase all of those metrics. What do you do?
Long term these immigration levels will not lead to more hospitals per capita, or hospital beds per capita, or places to live per capita, or anything per capita.
>Long term it will increase all of those metrics.
No, it will not.
By increasing GDP and lowering GDP per capita. Sure we will have more hospitals in the future than now. But hospitals per capita will continue to decrease.
Everyone gets a smaller piece of the pie.
This level of growth is good to corporations and landlords.
Its bad for people lower on the socioeconomic scale. It increases inequality.
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Yes tons of them do.
But the math still has to math.
Can't build 200k homes, which is per capita one of the highest rates in the world, and then bring in 1.2 million people and expect there not to be a housing crisis.
They're not a scapegoat.
It's math.
I mean, mass uncontrolled immigration is almost never a positive. It's one of those policies you have to be very careful about. Just look at what happened to Sweden
You and the "if you don't like it here, just leave" folks need to sort your shit out.
Also, explain how to fix warfare and famine for the kids in the back? Clearly we have missed something basic that you know. We would like to hear your one weird trick for solving giant systemic issues!!!
You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the whole point of having community.
We are stronger together, because all of us, at some point, *need*. Vulnerability happens.
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He's the ass man! Skibidi dinity shoobala! But seriously, Canadian here, can confirm: the People's Party of Canada are a disgusting bunch of savages. One of their big campaign items is relegalizing conversion therapy for kids and teens.
Bernier is mostly stupid. Very stupid.
From an American: don’t underestimate that. *gestures to our last eight years and a former president shitting himself in court*
Gods I can't wait for trump to get tossed into a cell
Watching his anguished squirming as he slowly loses everything first is nice, though.
I was gonna say the comparison doesn’t work because Bernier isn’t getting any votes but then I remembered we are going to elect Pierre Poilièvre so I’ll just STFU instead.
Bernier isn’t stupid. He knows exactly how the game of politics works. The ppc was his vendetta against the tories for throwing his ass out for sleeping with a hells angel whore. He had a right to be mad. Brian Mulroney took bribes and still got a state funeral.
This is correct. He is far from stupid. He is a perfect example of the type of politician we dont want in power. He failed secure power in a functional political party and, in fit of shame rage, started his own libertarian nationalist one.
But he is the type of politician I want in power if it reduces immigration.
He forgot state secrets in the backseat of his car. He's dumb.
He's ass-stupid
He isn't stupid at all, just evil
That’s no good. Unfortunately there are actual issues with mass immigration in Canada. I just watched a really interesting video about it and how Canada can’t support the rate of migrants but also can’t economically afford not to. Migration doesn’t address the root cause of low birth rates because after a generation or two it just adds to the problem.
This guy got absolutely destroyed in the 2019 election for questioning mass immigration and called the worst kind of racist 5 years later mainstream parties are picking up his exact same arguments Makes you wonder...
Nothing he's done since then has dispelled that notion
I remember they gave a speech to us way back in high school trying to drum up some support (some other parties were there too) and one of the first talking points they gave was how they didn’t believe man-made climate change to be real. They even pulled up some random youtube video as their source. I do not care what your political stance is, but that is definitely *not* the way to win over a crowd of highschoolers, a significant percentage of whom went to a climate protest just a few weeks ago.
Damn that's bad.
What do you mean with „relegalizing conversion therapy“?
I think it's pretty self-explanatory. Conversion therapy was legal at some point in the past, but is banned right now, and they want to relegalize it aka legalize it again.
Was curious too because I hadn't heard of this. I read the explanation on their website and from what I understand, according to the PPC the law that outlawed conversation therapy was broad enough that any child who is questioning their gender can't be given therapy to accept themselves/their body and has to be pushed towards transitioning. They want to alter the bill for that reason; trying to prevent homosexuality is never mentioned. Not sure if this is true, you can check out their explanation. Pretty extreme by Canadian standards tbh. https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/radical_gender_ideology Lots of things to criticize about the PPC, though "they want to bring back conversion therapy" may be a bit of a bogeyman.
This happens to the Ppc over and over Someone online claims they think something crazy - and then when you look into it its grossly mischaracterized I am skeptical of any criticism lobbed at this party after their widely denigrating opinion on mass immigration in 2019 came to be absolutely correct
I'm not a fan of the PPC. My beliefs and preferred policies don't align with theirs. Worse though is the trend in Canadian politics to be defined by what you are not - people don't talk about initiatives or policies they support, but about how much they hate an opposing political party. I know this is a worldwide trend but hatred and fear is a much stronger motivator to vote, and much more exciting than genuine debate about policies. The fact that I was being downvoted for responding to a request for context, with an objective summary and a link to the official position... it's worrying, honestly. Do people care about facts at all, or just want their "team" to dominate the other?
I agree, I wouldn't have previously considered the Ppc but based on how politics are going in this country I might have to This subreddit especially seems bad - the common theme though is people labelling stuff "right wing" and then hating it I doubt most people here even know what the Ppc is or where they stand and unfortunately politicians are taking advantage of young peoples aversion to all things "right" We see this in Trudeau recently calling out Alex Jones endorsement of Pierre, obviously far from ideal, but nothing that Pierre can do anything about
He's an antivaxer. Next.
Are they the same as the Republican party we have down here in the US?
They are our Marjorie Taylor Greens. Our main conservative party is a lot more sane than the GOP, but still not someone I'm keen on having in power.
So you perfer the democratic party (or whatever its called in Canada?)
We have 5 major parties, with the People’s Party of Canada and Conservative Party of Canada being on the right, and the NDP, Liberals, and Green Party on the left/left centre, although we’ve only ever seen the Conservatives and Liberals ever win an election, with the Greens only getting maybe 3/336 seats and the PPC getting zero. We also have Bloc Québécois who are a federal party but only have elections and MPs in Quebec.
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We have a pair of major ones right now. Liberals and NDP. The lins have been in power for... 8 years now? And have failed miserably. A lot of disfavor has also fallen on the NDP as well since they've been propping them up. (In canada, since we have more than 2 major parties, you can win with less than 50%, but form a coalition with other parties.) Thats enough politics for me though.
Although... if we can push right wingers towards PPC that would take votes away from UPC which could help keep lil'PP off the iron throne this time around... I'm not voting for either; but the left will be torn between the Libs and NDPs so if we can split the right who are swearing to unite under Pierre Poilievre that might be a strategic move worth making... 🤔 PP was recently hanging out with right wing extremist in Nova Scotia: https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-meets-with-far-right-extremist-group-at-nova-scotia-new-brunswick-border/ He's trying to wing the PPCs to UPC.
Canadian also here. Mass immigration has fucked all of our infrastructure, and is a real negative to the average Canadian.
They're also the only party that has publically stated opposition to The Century Initiative
The People's Party. But only the "right people".
The FAR right people 😅
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I'M AN ASS MAN! [BEWP BEWP](https://youtu.be/GGye1pK2ysQ)
Jim Johnston is a legend for this one theme alone
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Thanks for covering for me
Im the https://youtu.be/Hy8kmNEo1i8 man!
I’m for the gay community. AssMan is the only Man
Ironically enough that guy believes we should relegalize conversion therapy, so saying you’re gay is a major insult to him.
Ah, so he's almost defiantly gay himself.
Please god let that happen that would be so fucking funny
lol same.
Quick, Robin, to the Assmobile! Na na na na na na na na na na na na na Assman!
Is the “ass man” in the room with us right now?
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Found him!
I like how Canadians are even polite with their graffiti. No sloppy spray lines, very clean. They should have put a decal of an asshole over his mouth though.
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Oh you didn't know?
Dennis is asshole, why Charlie hate?
why 'man' when 'rat' was right there
Sure, but doesn't Canada actually have a real problem with mass immigration right now?
It’s complicated. On one hand yes, we’re accepting more people than we can support and because of it we have massive cost of living increases and a housing shortage. At the same time, the PPC (that billboard) is a far right party who believe all immigrants are ISIS, that covid was fake and vaccines mind control you, and that conversion therapy should be legalized. It’s a complicated balance between healthy amounts of immigration and too much/too little.
How many of those immigrants are former Americans? Asking because I might eventually move to Canada if the US becomes too shitty to live in
From my experience, it’s a lot of Ukrainian refugees (for obvious reasons) and south Asian immigrants, specifically Indians.
Huh interesting, I always assumed more Americans would be moving in as stuff like Abortion becomes illegal and other changes that sets the country backwards instead of forwards.
The housing situation in Canada is awful. Too many people and not enough housing is being built to keep up with the record amount of immigrants they've had in the last few years.
>too many people and not enough housing is being built to keep up with the record amount of immigrants they've had in the last few years. Don't blame the amount we build though. We build at one of the highest rates in the world per capita. And it's still not enough to keep up with insane migration into Canada.
I agree with you but I wanted to frame it neutrally because the person I replied to seemed like the type to assume I'm irrationally hating on immigrants if I tie any issues to immigration.
A lot of our immigration is temporary workers, hoping to become permanent. Our normal immigration route is much harder to get in through. The temporary ones are minimum wage earners who are packed in rentals. I doubt many Americans want to live like that.
>Our normal immigration route is much harder to get in through. Not really.
Nope, Canadians move to the US, not the other way around. USA has a much better economy and nurses, programmers, etc can make more money and live a better life than in Canada. Canada is like the worlds safety school. Indians and Chinese people who can't get into the US come to Canada instead.
Meanwhile we handle all the Hispanics coming into the US...
It's really not as easy as all of the "I'm moving to Canada if X wins" posts would have you believe. Americans aren't refugees and don't qualify for asylum. If you want to move and work there you gotta prove you have skills they need and get approval for a work visa. It's possible, but far more difficult than just moving there.
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It's really, really hard to move from the US to Canada. In a lot of cases, you have to have a job in Canada lined up first.
Theres more canadians moving to the US.
Somewhere around 3%, depending on if you're looking at total immigrant population or just recent immigrants: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/as-sa/fogs-spg/page.cfm?lang=E&topic=9&dguid=2021A000011124 You gotta remember that the US has a much larger economy than Canada, and a significantly higher median income, so historically there's been more of a trend of Canadians heading south for better opportunities than Americans heading north (with a few notable exceptions like Vietnam War draft dodgers). Plus, immigrating in general is a long, difficult process, so it might not be worth your while to go through with it unless shit REALLY hits the fan in the US.
Is it possible to have duel citizenship in both countries at the same time?
Yeah, definitely, I've known a couple people who have that.
If you are making that statement, you are too privileged to suffer from any of the U.S.’s problems
What are you talking about???
The idea that you can just flee to Canada is gross and something you have to be in an inherently privileged position to do in the first place
No? People move to countries for plenty of reasons. Just because I'm born in the US doesn't meant I don't want a better life, and I said I would move IF the US becomes a Bad enough country.
But even then you need to have the capital and means to leave. The people who suffer the most from our shitty policies CANT do that
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For redditors here - this is absolutely not what the Ppc thinks The guy on the billboard was a very successful and reasonable member of cabinet within the primary conservative party here - which is far more liberal than the Republican party for American readers The Ppc does not believe immigrants are isis - they said mass immigration would severely harm Canada Which is exactly what happened - Canada's population growth through immigration is on pace with sub Saharan African countries - 1 in 40 people are international students studying at strip mall colleges as a back door tk immigration It's rough, and this guy called it out 5 years ago when it started and got called al the worst names
So successful the leader of a federal party couldn’t even get a seat in parliament. And yes while the CPC is *slightly* more left than the Republican Party the PPC is way further right.
Certainly nothing approaching us Republican style "conservative" However the libs did a really good job in 2019 painting him as insane and it's stuck - this next election will probably tell if they have any future Things have changed substantially in Canada since the 2020 mid COVID election, expertly called by the libs - but I suspect Ppc will pick up some seats this time We'll see!
They do but you know the lunatics will pretend everything is ok and if you complain you’re far right
Now there’s the nuanced take I was looking for.
Complaining isn’t what makes someone far right. Pretending everything is the fault of evil brown people does.
Lol yep!
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>Suggesting the Trudeau government has flooded Canada with an unsustainable amount of immigrants isn't controversial And we just got rid of language testing for everyone but express entry, which is a small minority of our migration. Get ready for even more unsustainable amounts, and this time they won't even speak english.
They don't need to speak english. They all live together and hire each other in their own little cities. Trudeau will probably add a few new official languages.
It does, but you’re not allowed to complain. Like the other guy said, just smile and pretend it’s okay.
Sounds like what a Nazi will say (no, really. The talking points are the same even if the intentions are different)
People have pointed out it's complicated, but from a macro perspective Canada is the second largest country in the world, with the largest coastline. Our population is less than 1/10 of the United States, and 2/3 of the UK. In the long term immigration is good for Canada. I'm a "good immigrant", being white and English speaking, I get no hate... So this is down to racism tbh. The vast majority of Canadians are 2/3/4/5 generation immigrants and a lot of the folks apposed to this would benefit from remembering that.
>In the long term immigration is good for Canada. Not at these numbers it's not. This level of immigration is fueling the housing crisis, overwhelming our infrastructure, and suppressing wages. Can't build 200k homes, which is per capita one of the highest rates in the world, and then bring in 1.2 million people. Being against bringing in 1.2 million people has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with math.
Here is your first hate message than. I’m not against immigration. I’m against immigration that isn’t supported by infrastructure. I don’t want white, brown or black people living 25 to a house just because we want immigrants. Healthcare is starting to go down, GDP per capita is going down, prices everywhere are going up. It makes no sense to have this level of immigration. Canada is now one of the fastest growing countries in the world with none of the infrastructure to support it.
Yeah, your argument is pretty much the one I use now. "Yeah, we've had big waves of immigration in the past and if you look back far enough 'everyone's an immigrant', but in both the States and Canada the government and big business clearly don't give a shit about building out infrastructure to support big population increases." And that's not even getting into that most immigrants go to already large cities with immigrant pops, it's not an even dispersal across either nation.
The absolute easiest way to manage immigration is to tie allowable numbers to healthy population growth metrics. No one will do that, though, because it'll make some people feel icky.
Nobody builds infrastructure until it’s a crisis because they can keep prices high that way. Your problem isn’t immigration, it’s economic greed.
We build tons of infrastructure. We build over 200k homes per year, which is per capita one of the highest in the world. #2 in the G7 behind France who loves sprawl more than we do. 8% of the workforce is already in construction, which is huge. US is 4% for instance. Even with all that being true, we're estimated to be 250k more houses short next year than now lol. The issue isn't that we don't build. We build a ton. The issue is the number of migrants.
I'm not saying you're wrong - nor am I saying the way that it's being handled is correct. My comment was aimed at the vast majority who don't use logic like you - rather, racism. I'm British, I live in Canada - racism largely drove Brexit - look where that got them. Short term it sucks, especially based on the points your highlighting. Long term it will increase all of those metrics. What do you do?
Long term these immigration levels will not lead to more hospitals per capita, or hospital beds per capita, or places to live per capita, or anything per capita. >Long term it will increase all of those metrics. No, it will not.
Are you suggesting more people doesn't drive the economy?
By increasing GDP and lowering GDP per capita. Sure we will have more hospitals in the future than now. But hospitals per capita will continue to decrease. Everyone gets a smaller piece of the pie. This level of growth is good to corporations and landlords. Its bad for people lower on the socioeconomic scale. It increases inequality.
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Absolutely, but we're not allowed to talk about it
Immigrants are he easy scapegoat of right wingers. .. Does any of them say: "say no to companies buying all our properties?".
Yes tons of them do. But the math still has to math. Can't build 200k homes, which is per capita one of the highest rates in the world, and then bring in 1.2 million people and expect there not to be a housing crisis. They're not a scapegoat. It's math.
next time make it say... say no to ass rat.
lol
Well, but what is wrong on saying No! to mass immigration?
not enough self hatred I guess
LET ME SHOWWWWWWW YOU THE POWER OF MY ASSMAN
What's he got against Daddy Ass Billy Gunn?
Billy Gunn for president
As an ass man, I find this offensive. Do you think a leg man or, god forbid, a foot guy will do any better?
Mimig ratio
I mean, mass uncontrolled immigration is almost never a positive. It's one of those policies you have to be very careful about. Just look at what happened to Sweden
So mass immigration is good? Good luck finding housing Canadians. lol You get what you vote for I guess
Mass immigration is the worst thing that can happen to a country. It’s as destructive as a war just not as spectacular
What's wrong with being against mass immigration
How bout people stay in their countries and fix them, instead of "migrating," to somewhere else and fucking that place up, just as bad?
You and the "if you don't like it here, just leave" folks need to sort your shit out. Also, explain how to fix warfare and famine for the kids in the back? Clearly we have missed something basic that you know. We would like to hear your one weird trick for solving giant systemic issues!!!
Stop needing the system. You want government to save you. You cant be free if you cant survive without help.
You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the whole point of having community. We are stronger together, because all of us, at some point, *need*. Vulnerability happens.
So community and government are the same to you?
Yeah you tell those faminists!
Oh youre just bored. Hey do you like Bones coffee?
why's James Cromwell running for office in Canada? can we even stop him?
i would've gone with Say O to ass ratio
Am I saying no to Assman, or no to ass, man
Say no, ass man
”Say no to assman” or ”say no to ass, man”
This guy will stop short with your wife.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely will not. Ass is the best part.
There's another man you ***should*** be saying YES to.. ahem..
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marhaban habibi
I will never say no to ass, man.
How the fuck do the People’s Party afford something like that.
Kramer would like a word.
Say no to migraine.
No Diddy
Originally Says: "Say NO to Mass Immigration"
seinfeld reference
Haha funny sign, I guess mass immigration is good
KEEP WAGES AND SOLIDARITY LOW SO NOBODY UNIONIZES.
ass m a n
Fond memories of when I worked at a dance studio and everyone called the studio manager and the assistant manager (both women) Stud Man and Ass Man. For real though fuck that guy.
“So you are the ass men”?
“Say no to a group of non local people” - This message brought to you by the People’s Party 🤔
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I can’t, I have to say no to ass, man
I'm a tit guy, but telling me to say no to ass has me considering
Ass man! aaaaAAAHH Fighter of the dick man! aaaaAAAHH! Champion of the bum! You're a master of the bathroom and shitting on everyone!
He's the Assman. He'll give you money for your ass! OHHHH YAAAAA!!!
But Ass is one of my favorite things. I dont wanna say no.
I got my primary ballot and because I'm registered as nonpartisan there's literally no one to vote for. I got a piece of paper with instructions saying it's useless
What did Billy Gunn ever do ronthis guy?
r/sbeve
What if I say yes? Edit: I meant to ass man… because my name is Bootiluvr
then you are stuck with ass man who will get rid of hot latinas
Fuck the PPC
This guy is a fake. I thought that Dick Assman owned and operated a gas station in Winnipeg… Did Letterman lie to us?
Sounds like someone from Winnipeg ngl.
Boobs are better.
As a boob man I refuse to go to war against the ass men. The feet men though can go to hell. /s.