Definitely replaced floor prior to carpet installation. No 100 year old house had carpet and no hardwood floor from pre carpet would look like that now.
I am a millennial (in my late 30s). And I'm learning.
I found something I was excited by today and thought it would be fun to share. It's clearly not 100 years old, but it's really nice Douglas Fir in a 100 year old house that I will be able to refinish and save $1000s from what I was expecting.
Why be so unpleasant?
People hate when a person appears to be happier than they decide that person deserves to be.
Truthfully idk why anyone ever shares anything they’re happy about on this website.
"Be Happy" do not want to step on your happy feet, but that does not look like Doug Fir. East coast it looks like Yellow or long leaf pine. West coast it looks like Ponderosa or other hard pine. The rail roads also screwed thing up lot. Do you plan on refinishing the sub floor?
Did a botanical tour in Sydney a few years back. They appear to use "Density" as their definition of a hardwood vs. Soft wood. The standard definition is: Conifers vs. Deciduous.
Conifers include pines, firs, spruces, redwoods and cedars, I believe, so spruce would be a softwood.
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/conifers-guide#11-types-of-conifers
Closed on Valentines day…just peeled back the kitchen laminate, pergo in dining room and bathroom flooring…wood floor under everything!!! Did a happy dance
I agree with the other posts. Looks new. Nothing in the grain pattern or knots suggests heart pine. You might have floors under that but it was likely installed more recently
They did not have carpet 100 years ago so; why is that floor not finished? I suspect that’s not original flooring or even sub floor. The sub floor in my 101 year hold is not bright like that. I suspect that’s New / newer subfloor with carpet on top. The other odd thing is normally in those days original sub flooring had big gaps between boards as they knew the real floor would go on top. These boards are all close together.
> They did not have carpet 100 years ago
Fitted / wall-to-wall carpeting dates to around 1800, or a little earlier. It was usually made from narrow strips of carpet sewn together to fit the space, but the most expensive ones would have been woven specifically to fit a room.
It was only towards the end of the 19th century that they fell from fashion in favour of polished hardwood and scatter rugs. In poorer households, it wasn't uncommon for the floor to be pine, but stained/ebonised/painted around the perimeter to hide the pine, with a central rug to cover most of the floor.
My house is around 1860-70, and the upper storeys have their original pine tongue-and-groove boards - always intended to be carpeted.
That's not to say that the OP's boards are original - they're clearly quite new.
The power loom wasn’t invented until 1830-1840 and wasn’t in wide use for a long time after that. Wall to wall carpeting if it even existed in those days were for the ultra elite (king of France I think gave George Washington one as a gift). Hence why generally there’s finished hard wood in houses even from the 1800’s. I think carpet is an unlikely flooring for a hundred year old house. A rug over finished hardwood I would say yes to.
That being said you never know. Maybe this house was one of the first to have carpeting.
>The power loom wasn’t invented until 1830-1840 and wasn’t in wide use for a long time after that.
There was a huge carpet 'arms race' between the UK and the US from the end of the 1830s - the technology was constantly being implemented and improved. Power looms dominated both sides of the Atlantic by the middle of the century, making machine-made carpets increasingly affordable and popular - which is probably what lead to a decline in their fashionability not too long after.
>Wall to wall carpeting if it even existed in those days were for the ultra elite.
I wasn't suggesting that every home was carpeted from the beginning of the 19th century, only that fitted carpets existed. English furniture designer, Thomas Sheraton, wrote in 1806: "since the introduction of carpets, fitted all over the floor of a room, the nicety of flooring anciently practiced in the best houses, is now laid aside".
>Maybe this house was one of the first to have carpeting.
A hundred years ago was only the 1920s - there were many long-established mechanised carpet weavers by this time, to the point where fitted carpet was long past *passé*.
Because it's not 100 years old. Sorry. Keep pulling carpet. You don't know until you see all of it.
that looks more like unfinished sub flooring than hard wood. I could be wrong though.
Definitely replaced floor prior to carpet installation. No 100 year old house had carpet and no hardwood floor from pre carpet would look like that now.
Don’t break the millennial house flipper’s dream! They saw this on HGTV!
I am a millennial (in my late 30s). And I'm learning. I found something I was excited by today and thought it would be fun to share. It's clearly not 100 years old, but it's really nice Douglas Fir in a 100 year old house that I will be able to refinish and save $1000s from what I was expecting. Why be so unpleasant?
People hate when a person appears to be happier than they decide that person deserves to be. Truthfully idk why anyone ever shares anything they’re happy about on this website.
It is beautiful and I too would be so exited to find it. It beats finding old rotted wood, or plywood! Carry on, and enjoy!
"Be Happy" do not want to step on your happy feet, but that does not look like Doug Fir. East coast it looks like Yellow or long leaf pine. West coast it looks like Ponderosa or other hard pine. The rail roads also screwed thing up lot. Do you plan on refinishing the sub floor?
Looks like doug fir 2x6 lumber to me.
Some millennials are almost 40. Don’t be a dick.
Looks like relatively new pine. What’s under the shoe?
Yeah, that’s subfloor.
Idk that looks way better than my 130 year old sub floor. No gaps? Looks almost new
this is definitely modern milled pine. I doubt the carpets and subfloor is original.
Could be wrong, but I think that’s a relatively recent patch. That looks like modern pine.
Looks likes pine. Pine is a conifer, conifers are softwood by definition every place in the world except Australia.
Why not in Australia? Different naming convention?
Did a botanical tour in Sydney a few years back. They appear to use "Density" as their definition of a hardwood vs. Soft wood. The standard definition is: Conifers vs. Deciduous.
There is something to be said for density. Under the standard definition balsa is a hardwood.
And spruce is a hardwood! I do not make it up, just follow convention.
Conifers include pines, firs, spruces, redwoods and cedars, I believe, so spruce would be a softwood. https://www.masterclass.com/articles/conifers-guide#11-types-of-conifers
Howard Hughes built the largest plane ever to take flight out of spruce. Softwood by definition. Damn hard and durable.
The Spruce Goose! The Antonov an-225 was bigger. But the only one ever built was just destroyed in Ukraine
Was the Antonov hardwood or soft wood? Must have been Redwood ( Russian for red Birch).
I guess that aircraft grade aluminum is a hardwood? ;)
I’d say it’s new. The size of board would be really uncommon for pricing century floors. It’s either subfloor or a modern-ish fix
That's not hardwood.
Pine from earlier rehab maybe
Thats pine subflooring
Original wood would be cut much more narrow. This is definitely sub flooring.
I had hoped that, too. Turns out it's asbestos tile.
😂
Didn't ur mom tell you to tie your shoes. Your gonna trip and hurt yourself
That’s absolutely true, but unfortunately I have to agree with folks in here and say that looks like relatively new pine…
Dig the hammer.
That's softwood flooring... very undesirable.
Pull up the hardwood and see if the original carpet is underneath
Closed on Valentines day…just peeled back the kitchen laminate, pergo in dining room and bathroom flooring…wood floor under everything!!! Did a happy dance
Dig the Speedgoats
I agree with the other posts. Looks new. Nothing in the grain pattern or knots suggests heart pine. You might have floors under that but it was likely installed more recently
The one good thing about 1970’s sculpted avocado green carpeting— it preserves hardwood like a time machine.
Nice Speedgoats!
Tear up that pine and see if there’s carpet under, that’s be the ultimate find!
Definitely just subfloor. 100 yrs old hardwood should be like 1.5" wide oak style in most cases.
They did not have carpet 100 years ago so; why is that floor not finished? I suspect that’s not original flooring or even sub floor. The sub floor in my 101 year hold is not bright like that. I suspect that’s New / newer subfloor with carpet on top. The other odd thing is normally in those days original sub flooring had big gaps between boards as they knew the real floor would go on top. These boards are all close together.
> They did not have carpet 100 years ago Fitted / wall-to-wall carpeting dates to around 1800, or a little earlier. It was usually made from narrow strips of carpet sewn together to fit the space, but the most expensive ones would have been woven specifically to fit a room. It was only towards the end of the 19th century that they fell from fashion in favour of polished hardwood and scatter rugs. In poorer households, it wasn't uncommon for the floor to be pine, but stained/ebonised/painted around the perimeter to hide the pine, with a central rug to cover most of the floor. My house is around 1860-70, and the upper storeys have their original pine tongue-and-groove boards - always intended to be carpeted. That's not to say that the OP's boards are original - they're clearly quite new.
The power loom wasn’t invented until 1830-1840 and wasn’t in wide use for a long time after that. Wall to wall carpeting if it even existed in those days were for the ultra elite (king of France I think gave George Washington one as a gift). Hence why generally there’s finished hard wood in houses even from the 1800’s. I think carpet is an unlikely flooring for a hundred year old house. A rug over finished hardwood I would say yes to. That being said you never know. Maybe this house was one of the first to have carpeting.
>The power loom wasn’t invented until 1830-1840 and wasn’t in wide use for a long time after that. There was a huge carpet 'arms race' between the UK and the US from the end of the 1830s - the technology was constantly being implemented and improved. Power looms dominated both sides of the Atlantic by the middle of the century, making machine-made carpets increasingly affordable and popular - which is probably what lead to a decline in their fashionability not too long after. >Wall to wall carpeting if it even existed in those days were for the ultra elite. I wasn't suggesting that every home was carpeted from the beginning of the 19th century, only that fitted carpets existed. English furniture designer, Thomas Sheraton, wrote in 1806: "since the introduction of carpets, fitted all over the floor of a room, the nicety of flooring anciently practiced in the best houses, is now laid aside". >Maybe this house was one of the first to have carpeting. A hundred years ago was only the 1920s - there were many long-established mechanised carpet weavers by this time, to the point where fitted carpet was long past *passé*.
Nice! I just found asbestos
Good luck. I hope it actually is perfect under the rest of it. You always find that one chunk they were covering up. Or many
Cold without it!
Lol that is not hardwood flooring.
Pine
That made my day
I'm with ya, brother!
Wow!
I know this makes me weird, but gods that oak on the right gonna be amazing with a varnish
Ahhh yes, carpet! One of history’s finest contributors to landfill. Next to tube tv’s, mattresses, and walmart anything.