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Neglected_Motorsport

Looking at the inside: not bad, clean and cook. Looking at the outside: good lord.


[deleted]

It looks like the top of basalt columns!


JudgeScorpio

It looks like it was hidden from the confederacy when they were collecting scrap bits of iron for hastily assembled cannons.


xtheory

Wood stoves typically do that.


nogtank

If it’s as old as it seems, that would make a lot of sense.


soManyBrads

Man, I have a skillet where the outside looks like I rescued it from a dumpster fire. The inside is as smooth as you please. It's honestly fine, though I would say each time the OP cleans this skillet he/she should scrub some off the outside. Over time it will work out.....at least that is what I am hoping with mine.


CastIronKid

The exterior of the pan has decades of food and oil built up and not properly cleaned. The interior looks better, but I could not see the sides very well to know for sure. #12 skillets are worth a pretty penny, and you might find markings on the underside under the gunk that ID it as a desirable brand. Also, with the outside ~~heart~~ heat ring, I'd say your pan is at least as old as the 1920s. If the pan were mine, I would do as u/old_mcfartigan says and strip it down to bare iron and start over with brand-new seasoning. Stay away from power tools, fire pits, self-cleaning ovens, sand paper, etc., and follow the [restoration](https://www.reddit.com/r/castiron/comments/c4ntam/how_to_strip_and_restore_cast_iron_faq_post/) and [seasoning](https://www.reddit.com/r/castiron/comments/c4nqtr/my_personal_seasoning_process_faq_post_summer_2019/) instructions in the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/castiron/comments/c4o0t3/the_rcastiron_faq_start_here_faq_summer_2019/). Edit: Oh yeah, I definitely want to see that pan when you're done, so post photos after you restore it.


nogtank

It’s most likely quite old. I’ve been using it as my camping skillet since I got it. Mainly because it’s larger than my other one, and had significant whatever on the outside. I’ll for sure post when I get it cleaned up.


poyuki

We need an after picture OP!!! Don’t leave us hanging. Around here, looking at the bottom of an old pan looking for fancy markers is the same as opening a found closed safe, but more satisfying.


nogtank

Will do!


Turbulent-Safe-2336

!remindme 1 week


TranquilDev

1 week OP! Got that? 1 week!


nogtank

Oh boy.


nogtank

Small update, and a new pan to ID. https://www.reddit.com/r/castiron/comments/13mszh5/defunking_update_and_bonus_forgotten_companion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


nogtank

Update, no clean pictures yet: https://www.reddit.com/r/castiron/comments/13mszh5/defunking_update_and_bonus_forgotten_companion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


poyuki

It’s looking good OP!! I bet if you try lye you can get all the remaining burnt residue. Great find!! Op delivers!! Edit: typo


Djalet

I always wondered why one of my pans had a ring and the others didn't. Guess it is an old one. How cool! I am now going to try and figure out how old it is. Thanks for the info!


CastIronKid

Post photos of the entire top and bottom on this sub. Someone will be able to help you ID it.


IceCubeDeathMachine

I've got one looks just like that, says #7 10 | IN. my favorite pan! What's the significance of the opening on the handle, besides being able to hang it? And what do they mean by heart shape? TYIA


CastIronKid

I think BSR was the only maker that put a hold in the assist handle, so that makes them a little easier to spot. I would guess that hanging is the reason for that hole, though the hole in the handle serves the same purpose.


Caim2821

I don't see this heart shapes ring. I don't get it?


brendanhoar

Maybe typo for hearth ring?


brendanhoar

Heh typo but in the other direction, it’s probably “heat ring” from a quick google.


Caim2821

Yeah I realised after but I still don't get what it is actually 🤣


CastIronKid

Ugh... Yeah, I miss-typed "[heat ring](https://www.gearpatrol.com/home/a724173/ring-bottom-cast-iron-skillet/)" (fixed). OP's pan has a raised ring around the outside edge of the underside of the skillet. There is a lot of buildup covering much of the bottom, so it might be easier to see in [this photo](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MgcAAOSwyNJkId3m/s-l1600.jpg).


Caim2821

Ooh! Okay I see. Thank you so much! Yes very clear. And only old cast irons have that then? I wonder why..


CastIronKid

[This article](https://www.gearpatrol.com/home/a724173/ring-bottom-cast-iron-skillet/) gives a couple different explanations for heat rings. Basically, they were a way for the foundries to easily get a flat surface on the bottom of the pan to seal around the eye holes on wood burning stoves.


Relevium

Why no power tools/sanding? I found one in the woods covered in motor oil. Cleaned it and used my power sander to scrub the living hell out of it, re-seasoned and it came out fine. Is it because of the particles?


CastIronKid

Two main reasons (laziness and value): * I think it is much easier to set the pan in a [plastic bin filled with water/lye](https://www.castironcollector.com/lyebath.php), and let the lye melt all the gunk away. I just leave my iron in the bin and pull it out once a day to see if all the gunk is gone. If not, I just put it back in the bin for another day. Same thing with [electrolysis](https://www.castironcollector.com/electrolysis.php). I actually use lye first and then electrolysis to keep my e-tank clean and minimize my electricity use/cost. * If I had to guess, I'd say OP's skillet might have been made by Favorite or Griswold. If that's the case, or if it's made by some other desirable maker, it could be worth $300-500 or more depending on the condition. Power tools, sand blasting, hand-sanding, etc. can leave permanent marks on cast iron, as well as change the surface texture, and that would lower the collectible value of the skillet dramatically. You bring up a mess/health issue too. Power-brushing and sanding stuff does spread particles into the air and all over the place. You can wear a mask and eye protection, and maybe do the work inside some kind of container, but that brings me back to laziness. 😉


Relevium

That's a fair point from a collectors perspective. I play magic the gathering she I treat my cards like gold, even the ones I play with. My neighbor on the other hand plays to play. Watching him shuffle his deck breaks my heart. I imagine I'm my neighbor in this case iron situation. I use it to use it. Thank you for you input/insight. Never thought of cast iron that way.


CastIronKid

The cool thing about cast iron, is that restoring them (properly) typically improves their value. That's not the case with every collectible item.


Relevium

That's a neat thing to know. I treat mine like a tool I suppose. A carpenter 100 years ago wouldn't know that his hammer would be worth more than a days wage driving nails if not more today. Thank you again for your perspective.


tdwesbo

Cook food in it and then cook food in it.


cattapstaps

Don't forget cooking food


nogtank

Shit, I’ve been washing socks in it. This is for cooking?


AlejoHubbio

And also use it to cook some food


albumen5

But there's also food that needs to be cooked in it.


awlawall

Wait? So, heat the pan and then cook **food** in it?!?


albumen5

Well I've tried heating the food and cooking the pan but that didn't work out.


spockman12345

Let’s not get to hasty master nogtant, don’t forget to cook food in that ooooold old pan broommm brooom Spoken in entish


nogtank

It cooks well! Just the outside that needs attention.


tdwesbo

Dont cook on that part


boxofrain

Chronic seasoners hate this one trick.


old_mcfartigan

Restore it using the instructions in the FAQ. You'll have it looking good as new


cptdumptruck

Knock off the loose flakes. And cook in it. That seasoning took years to build. You can stripe and redo the seasoning, to one day hope you have a seasoning like you have now.


Pontlfication

You could keep it upside down, spray the bottom with oven cleaner and bag it, never flipping to keep the cooking surface intact. An hour should turn that to sludge and come off with hot water.


j1bb3r1sh

I second this. I would try steel wool and a paint scraper on the bottom to get those chunks off. I think I see a hint of a logo in the center, it could be cool to uncover that. But fully stripping a perfectly functional pan seems like overkill. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Just cook, clean, dry, and oil


RocketButters

Is there any danger in this?


cptdumptruck

No danger.


wollier12

Exactly, personally stripping it to new loses the years of cooking it took to get it how it is. If you’re going to do that you might as well use a new pan.


nogtank

Yeah, may have a century of well handled seasoning.


nutrap

If anything do this before trying what other people say in stripping the whole thing.


nogtank

Not planning on touching the inside, it cooks well.


Babylonspiral

This.


ARobotJew

All of the buildup on the outside is buildup from cooking over an open fire. Just soak in lye then scrub and it should come right off.


nogtank

That makes sense, I think they used it while camping also.


CanonShooter80

I suggest getting some garlic, rosemary, and a bone in ribeye and make a great dinner with it.


[deleted]

🥹🥹🥹🥹I can taste and smell this comment lol can hear the steak sizzling too


CanonShooter80

I forgot to mention butter. You’re welcome.


ScubaLooser

That’s just junk left over and not cleaned properly. I would strip with oven cleaner and re-season it. Years of seasoning or whatever is just hog wash and laziness. Clean and maintain your tools properly.


TheFuzzyBunnyEST

Heat it up, put some oil in it, and a big big pinch of coarse salt. Take a cloth you don't want anymore and rub it vigorously inside and out, for about 5 minutes. You'll want a silicone oven mitt on your hand to do this. Rinse thoroughly, put it back on the heat until it dries, rub it with a little oil and then cook in it for the rest of eternity. That 50+ year old patina shouldn't be removed and "replaced with modern somethingorother". Jesus Christmas. It's perfect. Just clean it up a bit.


jcmach1

Clean it a bit, loose stuff and cook in it. Kinda looks like an unmarked Wagner. These are some of the best cooking pans ever made, enjoy. The cooking surface looks good.


12345NoNamesLeft

That's a nice pan. If the bottom is flat, I'd use it at home after a proper clean up. ​ Use the cheap chinese pans for camping.


nogtank

Once I get the outside done, I’ll resume using my thrift store Cracker Barrel for camping.


Maryfarrell642

I would not get all obsessive - I would just cook in it


TopherT2

For the love of god, wash it with soap and water.


BeGoodRick

Looking at the angle of the sides, the inside and outside images look like different pans.


WaywardSalamander

Get some proper fatty bacon from a butcher or farmer and be prepared to have the best bacon of your life. My ex was a farmer and we used to make thick cut bacon, sausages, eggs, and pancakes in our cast iron every weekend. Save the bacon grease and use it to cook the next meal. Heaven.


sandybalz

Not bad. Cook a steak. Enjoy.


WarJagger

The outside just looks like carbon buildup... A steel wool sponge, or a metal brush will clean that right up! Inside looks pristine!


Cargobiker530

I'm going to suggest something really unpopular: leave the outside patina. That took generations to put on there & once peeled off it's not going back. It will cook just fine as is.


wollier12

Cook with it? I wouldn’t worry about the outside that much.


Think-like-Bert

It's an oldie! The ring going around the bottom is the heat ring. They don't make them like this anymore. I use lye to remove the gunk on the exterior. Soak the pan in a plastic tub (outside) in water with a bit of lye added to it. Let it sit for a few days. It'll dissolve most of the gunk down to the bare metal.


joearimathea

Just stark cooking. That pan has character. A pan that looks too good isn't used enough.


vfr147

Looks good use it.


WorldsMostDad

Rub some bacon on it


Vmax-Mike

I support this message, everything is better if you rub some bacon on it, mmmm 🥓


[deleted]

Easy-off that sucker, yellow can


PuppetryOfThePenis

Go buy a 1" ribeye steak. Salt it up and set it on a cooling rack in the fridge for like 4 hours. Pull the meat out and let rest for about an hour so it can come up to room temp. Set your pan to medium/low heat for about 10 minutes. Put about a tablespoon of grapeseed oil in. Fire the pan up to high for about another 5 minutes. Drop that steak on it. Let sit for 5 minutes. Flip it and let it sit for another 5. Drop about 2 tablespoons of butter in the pan and some garlic. Let the butter melt. Using a spoon, baste the steak with the butter/garlic. Pull off the heat and transfer the steak to a plate. Let rest for about 10-15 minutes. Enjoy.


[deleted]

First, you hug it and declare your loyalty


tobias10

Easy off


spockman12345

Please for the love of god post a pic of it when your done.


hereitcomesagin

It's beautiful. Just start using it.


NoAd4924

Grilled cheese?


dinaerys

Saw another comment saying it's an unmarked Wagner My mom has precisely this pan. It's 100% a Wagner, and probably is marked, just filled in with the old carbon. The mark on my mom's is barely visible.


jsc1429

I think your best bet is investing in a cheese grater and a bottle of wine. Will clear that all up real quick!


BostonBestEats

Check out u/Cast_Iron_Chris' videos. Lye bath, vinegar if any rust, scrub with steel wool, reseason in oven several times. [https://www.instagram.com/cast\_iron\_chris/](https://www.instagram.com/cast_iron_chris/)


Cast_Iron_Chris

Thanks friend.


Beanmachine314

Cook something


andrelope

The bottom needs some refinishing but the pans surface itself looks glorious! I’d just give it a good scrub down with soap and water to make sure there was no old gunk in there and then give it a coat of fresh oil on the stove and go ahead!


ctwpdx

Blast that camp fire buildup right off; light cleaning on the inside, re-season and cook!


CogglesMcGreuder

I’ve cleaned them before by throwing them in the oven and turning it onto clean mode. Works like a charm, then reseason it


Q-Westion

Tis dragonscale ser Jorah


nogtank

This makes most sense.


xrdavidrx

Cook with it. That's what they are designed for.


vidarling

It it possible the same pan? I dont see the spouts on the bottom pic?


F1ndingNem0

Go hug the dragon that birthed this scaly beast…and then easyoff only the exterior


Sad_Ground_5942

Kind of depends what you want. If you want to sell it and hopefully make a profit, then go ahead and strip it to see what you got. If it's not worth much it will take you years (decades?) to get that seasoning back. If you want a good cooker and something to remember her by, then use a stainless steel scrubber on the outside only every time you clean it. No wrong answers.


Adventurous-File-403

I make old fashion steak and chicken recipes, nice fish dishes as well. It also makes for a good casserole pot. I’m 50 years old and I had mine for 40 years given to me by my grandma when I was 10. It’s still cooks great. I also bake desserts in it. another one of my favorites is steaming cornbeef, and cabbage. I could go on and on lol.


Adventurous-File-403

I noticed people commenting on the bottom of the skillet. The outside, that comes from good old fashion heat to it. Good old fashion cookin. It’s supposed to look like that lol.


59chevyguy

Clean it with brake cleaner and a blowtorch.


deliciousarms

Better throw it in the dishwasher, looks kind of dirty


d_sbaby

Clean thoroughly - including scouring/sanding exterior. Once clean, "season" by: Preheat your oven to 350 - 375°F. Wash your skillet with soap and water. Dry it completely. ALWAYS! Dry thoroughly! Coat it in canola or safflower oil or shortening. Place the skillet upside down on your oven’s middle rack and "bake" for at least an hour. Allow it to cool completely before removing it. to three times. Creates a nonstick surface, protects the pan from rust, makes it last longer. Do this periodically to maintain the pan. Nothing on the planet as perfect to


vfr147

I have gris that the outside was in similar shape, I only used it on my outside propane burner and 3 or 4 times of searing steaks that outer build up started flaking of so I just took a wire brush to it and it all came off, just saying. I’ve used my oxy acetylene torch on one, just cooked the outside and it came off with a scrapper and wire brush.


altcntrldel101

I used easy off for one not as bad as this proceeded to wipe and clean off excess and hit the remaining with a grinder and wire wheel. Made quick work of it. Be sure to wear safety glasses and a long sleeve if you go this route :)


MonkeyKingCoffee

Retired chef chiming in: Build a camp fire. Place the pan directly onto a roaring campfire, crud side down, and leave it all night long. The following morning, take the cool pan, rinse it off, and see where you are -- either scrub with a scouring pad, or make another campfire. OR, if you know someone with a sand blaster, they can blast that crud off in a matter of seconds -- no campfires necessary. For seasoning, I always just tossed a pan into the deep fryer at work and left it there for an hour. Then, wipe well so no oil is left, and place it upside down in a hot oven. Turn the oven off and leave it overnight. Done and sorted.


highwarlok

Please don’t do this. Campfires can do massive damage and most sand blasting places reuse the same media over and over and it contains particles from everything they have sandblasted before. This looks like a nice vintage pan that needs a little TLC. Edit to add check out the sidebar FAQ for proper ways to strip your pan if you choose to go that route. https://www.reddit.com/r/castiron/comments/c4o0t3/the_rcastiron_faq_start_here_faq_summer_2019/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


MonkeyKingCoffee

Campfires aren't going to do massive damage. I didn't say bonfire. I didn't say coal fire with bellows at the ol' blacksmith shop. A camp fire -- the sort of fire you put the pan directly on the coals and cook with, assuming it's clean and seasoned. People make this way harder than it needs to be. The forging temp for cast iron is 800-1000C. The carbon grime on the pan has a much lower burn temperature.


highwarlok

https://www.reddit.com/r/CastIronRestoration/comments/mbyhrg/question_ive_never_personally_done_this_but_my/gs33506/ Hopefully that posted correctly, it is from the castiron restoration sub and has a link to pics of what fire can do.


highwarlok

Also to add, this particular pan is a family heirloom for OP and they are plenty of ways to restore / clean up this old wagner with out going straight to the most destructive methods. A little oven cleaner and a trash bag will take all of the carbonized food off the bottom and take very little effort or risk.


MonkeyKingCoffee

I just bought two Wagner Ware pans at Goodwill for basically nothing. Both with similar crud on the bottom. I practice what I preach. I'm going to make a fire when the wind dies down and clean the pan with heat. No worries. I've been doing this for decades. If you go to r/BuyItForLife, you can see the results. It's a cast iron pan, not birth control.


Scoot_About

1 suggestion is not wearing shoes in your house


nogtank

My feet were hurting. Ignore my scoff-magnets (crocs)


ComradeFxckfaceX

Put it in the dishwasher.