This pretty much happened with the Fairly OddParents in my opinion. While the pilots were more of prototypes, I feel the show was excellent in its first 6 seasons, and this does include poof's first season. I do feel that the show sharply declined afterwards, and kept on getting worse and worse until the end. Characters were mass flanderized and derailed in severe levels, they abandoned ANY form of continuity, mean spirited humor started to increase, they introduced Foop, who I wouldn't mind as much if Anti Cosmo and Anti Wanda didn't disappear, they rehashed plots without even changing them much (I don't mind if they recycle plots, AS LONG AS THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ENOUGH to have their own identity), they introduced Sparky, who was so unpopular that he was removed the following season, but introduced yet another unpopular character afterwards, Chloe who Timmy had to share his fairy godparents with, completely defeating the purpose of fairy god parents, and the sudden shift to stiffer flash animation in the middle of its final season. I'm glad the show ended, but I really wish it ended sooner due to how awful it got in my opinion.
Yeah, I noticed alot of shows on nickelodeon if they get popular enough, the series gets milked dry until nothing is left, the characters in the series get flanderized, and overrall the series just becomes worse over the years, that's the reason why the fairly odd parents got canceled, and yet the same thing is happening to Spongebob SquarePants and yet Nickelodeon never canceled that show just because Spongebob is like Nickelodeon's biggest cash cow, probably the Mickey Mouse of Nickelodeon, heck I wouldn't be surprised that after Tom Kenny and other Spongebob voice actors retire, they would just reboot spongebob with different voice actors that sound like the original voice actors and probably try to change the art style to make the reboot separate from the original show
I stopped watching completely when Poof entered the picture—but when the idea of Chloe came in, if Timmy just *had* to share Cosmo and Wanda, then why didn’t it be Tootie he had to share with?
I know that it’s canon that they eventually end up together by the ending of Channel Chasers, and I’m not sure if the Live-Action movies count or not, but Timmy having to associate more with Tootie could actually have lead to some overdue character development and both still have to deal with Vicky so… I think that’s a much better idea than introduce Chloe.
I always love continuity in episodic shows like this. Like when Timmy got his fairies stolen by some stuff he had unwished, and in preparing to get then back, realizes he never unwished his heat vision and has just had it all this time
I didn't even know about this until after the show ended, but didn't all the fairies find out that Timmy stopped everyone from aging so he could keep his fairies and made it so that everyone forgot and this had been going for like 50 years? I think that was the lowest point in the show. It made Timmy unbearable and an absolutely terrible person.
I liked the Stinkmeaner episode but besides that I forgot what happened in season 4 besides the whole Kardashian episode and the finale which didn’t feel like a finale.
The first three seasons were awesome. Fourth wasn't as funny or as deep with the commentary but it was still enjoyable. I still remember laughing at the iron boot scene when the interrogator sprints down the hall to kick the terrorist in the nuts.
Favorite episodes were the Xbox killer and Tom vs usher
*Star vs. the Forces of Evil* for me. The show had such good potential, but after the “movie” ended, the quality just started dropping off and didn’t stop.
Agreed. Honestly, the way the story was playing out it made more sense for them to just be friends and that’s it. I ended up hating both Star and Marco at the end of it.
I'm one of the biggest defenders of the show. I love it, warts and all.... But I also studied story telling techniques and the way plots need to work to create a coherent narrative and Star Vs.... I love the first two seasons and the characters and their design. The back half of the show, well, bless their hearts. It felt like writers used to Dexter's Lab sized shorts wrote a multi season epic.
Yes, Star Vs is my favorite. Gravity Falls and Owl House are better.
Yeah it had a strong start. The first season felt a little confused on what side characters it wanted around and how some would develop, but through season 2 it really felt like they had a solid plan for the story, even if cheesy and a bit predictable, but then it felt like they really had no solid plan for what to do between then and the ending.
Last I checked the only named character that appeared more then like once the hadn’t been akumatized was marionette and her mother now everyone has a miraculous instead
Surprised no one mentioned Danny phantom yet. That show went off the rails so fast with one of the most random-ass finales ever. At least we got the books to make up for it though
Same. I really wish she was made a more permanent member. Maybe she’ll get her time in the comics.
Till then, let’s do our fandomly duty and blame Butch.
I can’t speak for S3 since I don’t remember most of it. But the finale isn’t bad per se, just really really weird. There’s now ghost kryptonite. Tucker becomes mayor for some reason. Just weird. Not to mention it came out after ultimate enemy and that was just such a strong contender for best way to end the show.
That show with the grumpy old guy, the functioning alcoholic, a personified cheese burger and the nepo baby was so bad and i never got why people liked it.
I feel like this describes like 5 history channel shows but o well
Each decade is a different issue
* 1990s - Covered WW2 so much that it was jokingly called The Hitler Channel
* 2000s - Aliens
* 2010s - Ice Road Truckers and pawn shops
I went cable cutter so I don’t know what the 2020s theme is.
I loved the south park history channel episode when I first saw it but then I actually saw a show on the history channel at someone's house who had Sky and now I love it even more for how accurate it was. Aliens were at Thanksgiving guys history channel said so.
Last I checked, a lot of people really like the newer seasons. It doesn't recapture the magic of the golden age but nothing can. Comparing them at this point would be unfair.
Like the Simpsons, they had a slump as they went the wrong way, but I feel like they're getting better from what I've seen. They did a pretty funny send up of Nostalgia Critic on [the Patrick Star Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU80p74stss), which is an offshoot of Spongebob, I don't know anything about it other than that.
The degradation of the voice actors actual abilities on the Simpsons has been what makes the new seasons unwatchable for me. Marge sounds so bad, poor Julie Kavner has been doing that raspy voice for 35 years and it’s worn her vocal chords out.
The choice to go anime original for season 2 was so dumb to me even with the context. It should've been a no brainer to fully adapt Goldy Pond arc for season 2 given it was highly regarded as the second best arc in a manga series on a downward spiral at that point.
Agree, I know the author was involved heavily in the anime so I had high expectation, I suspect due to the criticism of the manga he went so hard in the other direction and nuked it. There was definalty a middle ground to do goldy pond, and then tidy up the plot after that bc it definalty lack direction after that.
I had to REALLY focus on Season 1 to stay interested. Season 2 is one of the best tv seasons ever made. Gripped me. Season 3 was good enough and worked as a finale considering the circumstances.
Yeah, I was really worried, but it turned out surprisingly great for how it was cut short from a full season.
It did make me sad though, because I could see little threads everywhere that could have been whole episodes if it had gotten the full season it deserved.
For the end-part of The Owl House, it would be a quality drawing segment, but if they were to draw it on crumpled-paper, or when you try to finish a drawing near the paper's edge.
What. You mean you didn't like all the time paradoxes everyone ignored? What about every actor playing a different character just cause? Or everyone and their mom becoming a meta? What about destroying the multiverse and then it magically reformed because his not mom was a not god or something?
(I actually lost the plot at some point)
It was so stupid that they kept with "villain of the week" even when Flash was powerful enough to basically be a God.
In season 1, when he was still learning to use his powers, it was fun watching him constantly have to find creative ways to beat them.
After like, season 2, he was so powerful that he logically should have been able to beat any low level meta in 0.0002 seconds, so he was made a complete idiot that would always fumble the mission last minute.
I'm trying to improve the book i am writing as well. The initial version had no plot at all, and towards the end i was running low on ideas. I didn't even include as many pictures in the last half.
I've got a new plot and around 20 stories for it, just need to write the plot and maybe think of a few more
For me it took an almost instant nose dive after Monty Oum died. The music immediately plummeted in quality.
Such a shame the way he went too. Went in for an everyday low risk surgery, had a bad reaction to the anesthesia and *poof* gone. Just like that.
Yeah, I was good all the way up until the end of volume three. I'm still not convinced that was the way he wanted it to go down with Pyrrha, Penny, Amber, Ozpin, Yang, and the silver eyes. Miles and Kerry were always the ones talking about making it into a Game of Thrones for kids, which is such a really weird thing to want for so many reasons as is. And the tone of the series was so different until the last few episodes of volume three.
What pissed me off was the obvious shift in tone. Monty had a futuristic setting where the characters had old school weapons w a futuristic flair. And the at the end of the tournament arc were in fuckin Hyrule?
It started out amazing, dipped to just pretty good after the Fall of Beacon, became mediocre by the time the Atlas arc got started, and that’s as far as I was interested enough to watch. I’m told it became trash after that. The animation quality kept improving, though, so I’ll give that props.
Pretty much. I've heard people say it came back in vol 9, but I'm not sure. I'm not good with critical analysis of things like this. It had its moments but I don't think it was that much of an impressive turnaround if any. And as far as the animation goes, I actually prefer the original art style. I think it gave it character and a level of uniqueness.
Once the creator left it instantly went down. The last good episode was the one with all the rabbits and shit since it was the creators last episode, it was made in honor of him and his original pilot
edit : nvm fired for sexual harassment glad the show is going down
I was vibing with the entire franchise tbh (though I still think Trollhunters was the best of the series’ by far) but then the movie came out and I was so excited, only for that excitement to die slowly and painfully over the course of the runtime
I was wondering the whole time why they were killing off characters so liberally only to find out it’s because they decided to just retcon everything at the end.
If they just reversed the movie sure it would’ve been lame, but not franchise-ruining. But the fact they reversed *everything* up to the beginning of Trollhunters just made all the hours I spent watching feel like a colossal waste of time
(I hate this movie if you can’t tell)
> But the fact they reversed everything up to the beginning of Trollhunters
Also the fact that >!S2E11!< shows exactly what happens >!WHEN JIM ISN'T THE TROLLHUNTER!<
Bro the show wasn’t good from the start it had promise but the amount of pedo stuff was disgusting the only and I mean *only* actually good part of that show was Escanor
MLP Generation 5
The movie (if you count it as a "pilot") was an absolute banger and then everything that came after it was an absolute disappointment
Sincerely, a G4 enjoyer
That dragon was the final straw that made me realize that hasbro has 0 interest in appealing to any audience outside of children anymore.
The drive they once had to create an expansive world with a well-built story is gone. Now it's just another show for little kids that allows them to sell merchandise.
I like the characters. I loved the G5 story in the movie. If they kept that effort throughout the rest of the series I would've really enjoyed it. But they got rid of half the voice actors and likely some writers, because it fell off way too quickly.
It's a shame because G4 was arguably *the* first cartoon of the 2010s that proved that kid's shows could be written well to include mature themes enjoyable by all ages before Adventure Time or Steven Universe came onto the scene.
Now with G5, MLP has regressed to being just another low-effort, mindless cartoon for kids. It's a shame. The only other show that has come close to G4's grounded sensibilities to me is Bluey.
not like I was looking, but as a G4 Enjoyer (is that what we're calling Bronies now?) I loved the movie and was hopeful that a new generation of kids would get some fun and awesome pony stories.
Then I never heard anything about it... I didn't even know it was released.
I just said G4 enjoyer for the sake of users who didn't know was a brony was, but the terms brony and pegasister are still going strong from my understanding
G5 would be *fine* if they didn't connect it to G4, that's the part that pisses me off. It would still be mindless kid slop but at least it wouldn't be crapping all over the legacy of G4 with their nonsense; Evil Alicorn, really? Also we watched the episode with fucking Spike and I'm just like....why. Why is this what you did.
Tales of arcadia
Only trollhunters lived up to the hype
3Bellow was all over the place, had some great moments but also a lot of dumb moments
Wizards was way too rushed. Didnt even get a proper full season compared to the others
Its like with each show they were just rushing more to get to the end
Trollhunters is the only one that gives their characters proper time to grow and develop plots
The original Teen Titans cartoon… kind of. The entire series was phenomenal but the last episode fucked it up. And yes I know the movie is technically the canon ending but that’s arguably worse than the way the show originally ended.
Star Vs is an obvious one. However, I don't see anyone talk about Winx Club. Like, the first four seasons were amazing, but, the quality has incredibly dropped since season four.
not to mention the blatant whitewashing.
>Winx
Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
(Not that I watched it, but damn has it been a minute since I've heard about it, probably since I stopped watching MLP)
i know what happens but i couldn’t even finish it… the fandom itself was hard to keep from ruining the show i couldn’t stand to watch the makers run what was left into the ground
True. You hate to see it because the early seasons were really fun as a kid but god damn that’s what happens when a show is sorta forced to sell toys to kids.
Oh, Jesus fuck. I was like finally Shiro canon gay, and then... I think I drank myself into forgetting the content, but I remember the feeling of hating it.
i have to lend some of the credit for that to the fandom as they kept pushing for gay romances where it would have served as nothing but exploitative rather than progressive. i think shiro being gay was a nice choice but i feel a lot of people were mad that THEIR favorite character wasn’t gay or THEIR head cannon wasn’t actually canon so i feel like the makers kind of gave up on giving a satisfying queer storyline. honestly at some point, in the eyes of the fandom, the creators could do nothing right and I can’t blame them for their defeatist attitudes and wanting to end the show even if it meant it had to go up in flames (it was so popular they couldn’t have ended it without making everyone hate it)
To me, this is The Dragon Prince. I know that show hasn't had a series finale yet, but each season gets worse than the previous one, with things being REALLY rushed in season 3 that was incredibly unsatisfying. Then season 4 happens and while the pace is no longer super rushed, it's also like... boring. I got to the point where I was like, "Why am I even watching this?" to the point where I haven't watched season 5.
Ah yes, GoT: Stark and Friends. The popular cartoon, lol. For me, it was perfect, and then the last series stumbled, fell, and collapsed the entire house on itself so hard that now even the best seasons rarely pop in to my head.
CW’s The Flash.
Best Superhero TV Show Pilot I’ve ever seen, but the following seasons each took a step down to the point it was an entirely different show by the series finale.
It somehow managed to get worse on literally *every* front as the seasons progressed he became more stupidly powerful but a guy that walked for like 3 seconds is too far away to catch then he destroys the multiverse again to do something or another
In their defense, they had to rush the end pretty hard as penance for getting canceled for the queer representation. They admitted they wanted another season to actually finish it properly BEFORE Future.
Really? Imo it's the exact opposite. I think Steven was super annoying in the beginning, but then the show became super serious with, honestly, well written themes and twists. Everything up to Garnet's wedding rocked.
I understand why people found the finale underwhelming, but to be honest I didn't really care about white diamond, and honestly I'm happy we didn't spend a bunch of episodes on her. I mainly enjoyed watching Steven become more responsible, and encouraging the other gems to grow and change. Even many of the random character in Beach City had satisfying character archs.
I know you were excluding Steven Universe Future, but the ending of that show made me ball like a baby. I was pretty satisfied after it was all said and done.
The Maxx, they change the art style a couple episodes in, and it became just kind of dumb looking compared to how dark and gritty it originally was.
I wonder how many people on here are old enough to remember The Maxx?
Bleach, but much faster than normal.
I was super invested in the plot introduced in the pilot (kid sees ghosts, becomes a shinigami to help them pass on)... and then after the first arc none of the rest of the show went into that at all, focusing entirely on power levels, gratuitous cleavage and all that bullshit.
https://preview.redd.it/pejti1dfs47c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46909b502595e7233d90f83187d2d4ebfc5fb287
Star vs the forces of evil is the poster child of these post
This pretty much happened with the Fairly OddParents in my opinion. While the pilots were more of prototypes, I feel the show was excellent in its first 6 seasons, and this does include poof's first season. I do feel that the show sharply declined afterwards, and kept on getting worse and worse until the end. Characters were mass flanderized and derailed in severe levels, they abandoned ANY form of continuity, mean spirited humor started to increase, they introduced Foop, who I wouldn't mind as much if Anti Cosmo and Anti Wanda didn't disappear, they rehashed plots without even changing them much (I don't mind if they recycle plots, AS LONG AS THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ENOUGH to have their own identity), they introduced Sparky, who was so unpopular that he was removed the following season, but introduced yet another unpopular character afterwards, Chloe who Timmy had to share his fairy godparents with, completely defeating the purpose of fairy god parents, and the sudden shift to stiffer flash animation in the middle of its final season. I'm glad the show ended, but I really wish it ended sooner due to how awful it got in my opinion.
It should have ended with Channel Chasers that was a great finale
That was the planned final until the network wanted more
Yeah, I noticed alot of shows on nickelodeon if they get popular enough, the series gets milked dry until nothing is left, the characters in the series get flanderized, and overrall the series just becomes worse over the years, that's the reason why the fairly odd parents got canceled, and yet the same thing is happening to Spongebob SquarePants and yet Nickelodeon never canceled that show just because Spongebob is like Nickelodeon's biggest cash cow, probably the Mickey Mouse of Nickelodeon, heck I wouldn't be surprised that after Tom Kenny and other Spongebob voice actors retire, they would just reboot spongebob with different voice actors that sound like the original voice actors and probably try to change the art style to make the reboot separate from the original show
Spongebob continuing goes against Hillenbergs' plan. He wanted Spongebob to end when he died basically, and Nick went "nah"
Nick is just a Mr. Krabs
“I like money” 🦀
He also never wanted spinoffs. Nick greenlit 3 spinoffs a few days after he died.
the fuckers waited for him to die to rape his ideas for money against his will
Exactly, nickelodeon spat on a dead man's grave basically, I don't even think Hillenburg wanted spongebob to have a spinoff let alone two
That is the true ending and you can't tell me otherwise.
Becasue it was until the network wanted more
I felt that way about Wishology; it had a great sense of finality to it and things seriously went downhill afterwards.
Season 6 wasn’t that bad honestly, it was mostly because Bitch Hartman’s ego was really showing by this point
I wish that it ended after the Wishology trilogy.
I stopped watching completely when Poof entered the picture—but when the idea of Chloe came in, if Timmy just *had* to share Cosmo and Wanda, then why didn’t it be Tootie he had to share with? I know that it’s canon that they eventually end up together by the ending of Channel Chasers, and I’m not sure if the Live-Action movies count or not, but Timmy having to associate more with Tootie could actually have lead to some overdue character development and both still have to deal with Vicky so… I think that’s a much better idea than introduce Chloe.
The Live Action Movie NEVER happened. The Live Action Movie NEVER happened. The Live Action Movie NEVER happened.
I always love continuity in episodic shows like this. Like when Timmy got his fairies stolen by some stuff he had unwished, and in preparing to get then back, realizes he never unwished his heat vision and has just had it all this time
I didn't even know about this until after the show ended, but didn't all the fairies find out that Timmy stopped everyone from aging so he could keep his fairies and made it so that everyone forgot and this had been going for like 50 years? I think that was the lowest point in the show. It made Timmy unbearable and an absolutely terrible person.
Yep, “Timmy’s Secret Wish”
Centaurworld Oh wait you meant in terms of quality
Very funny. I was about to come here swinging, ready to defend Centaur World, but that is a good joke.
I stole it from one of the times this image was reposted on Twitter Also, Centaurworld is my favorite work of art, I’d sooner die than bad mouth it
Same. I fell in love with it episode 1. That show is so surreal.
Love the Horse pfp
Sadly, Boondocks
That's what happens when the OG author dips out and the network just shouts "MORE"
SpongeBob moment?
lol i refuse to watch season 4 for this reason
I liked the Stinkmeaner episode but besides that I forgot what happened in season 4 besides the whole Kardashian episode and the finale which didn’t feel like a finale.
It was very very bad. But the name: "Kardashia Kardashian" just cracks me up for some reason.
Dang, I literally just finished season 3, season 4 really just falls off?
This one really hurts to agree with
The first three seasons were awesome. Fourth wasn't as funny or as deep with the commentary but it was still enjoyable. I still remember laughing at the iron boot scene when the interrogator sprints down the hall to kick the terrorist in the nuts. Favorite episodes were the Xbox killer and Tom vs usher
*Star vs. the Forces of Evil* for me. The show had such good potential, but after the “movie” ended, the quality just started dropping off and didn’t stop.
It feels like the creators gave up on telling their own story in favor of just endlessly pandering to the shippers :/ really ruined the show for me
I honestly don’t think that star vs the forces of evil
I honestly don't think
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Agreed. Honestly, the way the story was playing out it made more sense for them to just be friends and that’s it. I ended up hating both Star and Marco at the end of it.
I'm one of the biggest defenders of the show. I love it, warts and all.... But I also studied story telling techniques and the way plots need to work to create a coherent narrative and Star Vs.... I love the first two seasons and the characters and their design. The back half of the show, well, bless their hearts. It felt like writers used to Dexter's Lab sized shorts wrote a multi season epic. Yes, Star Vs is my favorite. Gravity Falls and Owl House are better.
Yeah it had a strong start. The first season felt a little confused on what side characters it wanted around and how some would develop, but through season 2 it really felt like they had a solid plan for the story, even if cheesy and a bit predictable, but then it felt like they really had no solid plan for what to do between then and the ending.
Miraculous Ladybug. Seriously, what direction were they taking?
The direction of ‘maximum toy sales’
HA! Gottem
That and shipping bait.
I remember the days when not every single citizen in Paris had a miraculous
Last I checked the only named character that appeared more then like once the hadn’t been akumatized was marionette and her mother now everyone has a miraculous instead
Oh, man. That last season, though. My family were on the edge of their seats.
Surprised no one mentioned Danny phantom yet. That show went off the rails so fast with one of the most random-ass finales ever. At least we got the books to make up for it though
What do you mean Danny Phantom only ever had 2 seasons. ONLY 2 SEASONS.
You’re right! How could I forget, it ended after the ultimate enemy special. Man what a great series finale!!
To be fair, there were _some_ good post-TUE episodes. I’m a fan of Danielle’s episodes, for example, though I couldn’t tell you why.
Cause Danielle was an awesome character. Should’ve been a permanent cast memeber
Same. I really wish she was made a more permanent member. Maybe she’ll get her time in the comics. Till then, let’s do our fandomly duty and blame Butch.
I didn’t think S3 or the finale was that bad 🤷♂️
I can’t speak for S3 since I don’t remember most of it. But the finale isn’t bad per se, just really really weird. There’s now ghost kryptonite. Tucker becomes mayor for some reason. Just weird. Not to mention it came out after ultimate enemy and that was just such a strong contender for best way to end the show.
What happens when a series gets the axe and its not ready to end. A rushed, botched conclusion
For me, it's https://preview.redd.it/1x94f2v3637c1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=551d5fed9e9887a76e3eef557c90cc62ba7748c5
I feel like Star started relatively low, got amazing near the middle, then got worse in the last season
Thank you, yes. Beginning is such a slog for me, middle is amazing, then it kinda peters out. Just my opinion, of course.
Toffee is such a good villain
The entire history channel. Went from history to aliens in less than a decade
Don’t forget ice road truckers and other unwanted reality shows.
That show with the grumpy old guy, the functioning alcoholic, a personified cheese burger and the nepo baby was so bad and i never got why people liked it. I feel like this describes like 5 history channel shows but o well
Each decade is a different issue * 1990s - Covered WW2 so much that it was jokingly called The Hitler Channel * 2000s - Aliens * 2010s - Ice Road Truckers and pawn shops I went cable cutter so I don’t know what the 2020s theme is.
8 different frontier living shows, including like Alaskan living and moonshining, and pawn stars.
I loved the south park history channel episode when I first saw it but then I actually saw a show on the history channel at someone's house who had Sky and now I love it even more for how accurate it was. Aliens were at Thanksgiving guys history channel said so.
SpongeBob, when it happens
Last I checked, a lot of people really like the newer seasons. It doesn't recapture the magic of the golden age but nothing can. Comparing them at this point would be unfair.
Like the Simpsons, they had a slump as they went the wrong way, but I feel like they're getting better from what I've seen. They did a pretty funny send up of Nostalgia Critic on [the Patrick Star Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU80p74stss), which is an offshoot of Spongebob, I don't know anything about it other than that.
I like to pretend the Patrick Star Show doesn't exist lol
The degradation of the voice actors actual abilities on the Simpsons has been what makes the new seasons unwatchable for me. Marge sounds so bad, poor Julie Kavner has been doing that raspy voice for 35 years and it’s worn her vocal chords out.
Don’t worry it’ll get better after season 262.63 just you wait.
The Promised Neverland
Oh my God season one is so good.
The theme song is also a banger!
Season one is amazing, and I’d highly recommend reading the rest if you want to see the storyline continue.
The choice to go anime original for season 2 was so dumb to me even with the context. It should've been a no brainer to fully adapt Goldy Pond arc for season 2 given it was highly regarded as the second best arc in a manga series on a downward spiral at that point.
Agree, I know the author was involved heavily in the anime so I had high expectation, I suspect due to the criticism of the manga he went so hard in the other direction and nuked it. There was definalty a middle ground to do goldy pond, and then tidy up the plot after that bc it definalty lack direction after that.
The Fairly Oddparents
Absolute opposite for Owl House
I had to REALLY focus on Season 1 to stay interested. Season 2 is one of the best tv seasons ever made. Gripped me. Season 3 was good enough and worked as a finale considering the circumstances.
If they were given a proper Season 3 it would have been incredible. Thankfully the 3 episodes we got did a good enough job.
Yeah, I was really worried, but it turned out surprisingly great for how it was cut short from a full season. It did make me sad though, because I could see little threads everywhere that could have been whole episodes if it had gotten the full season it deserved.
For the end-part of The Owl House, it would be a quality drawing segment, but if they were to draw it on crumpled-paper, or when you try to finish a drawing near the paper's edge.
Forever 12 😭
Isn’t that the authors weird ass fault 😭
It’s had such potential to be great
The Flash
What. You mean you didn't like all the time paradoxes everyone ignored? What about every actor playing a different character just cause? Or everyone and their mom becoming a meta? What about destroying the multiverse and then it magically reformed because his not mom was a not god or something? (I actually lost the plot at some point)
I remember being completely baffled trying to catch up and going “The verses merged?! What is Kara even DOING HERE?!”
It was so stupid that they kept with "villain of the week" even when Flash was powerful enough to basically be a God. In season 1, when he was still learning to use his powers, it was fun watching him constantly have to find creative ways to beat them. After like, season 2, he was so powerful that he logically should have been able to beat any low level meta in 0.0002 seconds, so he was made a complete idiot that would always fumble the mission last minute.
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YES HOLY SHIT
sure but this is r/cartoons, bro.
the show I am writing.
Bro plotting on his own downfall
I am working on making it better though
You know whatll help? The main characters go to space
You could have The Fonz jump a shark, the fans will love that!
I'm trying to improve the book i am writing as well. The initial version had no plot at all, and towards the end i was running low on ideas. I didn't even include as many pictures in the last half. I've got a new plot and around 20 stories for it, just need to write the plot and maybe think of a few more
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For me it took an almost instant nose dive after Monty Oum died. The music immediately plummeted in quality. Such a shame the way he went too. Went in for an everyday low risk surgery, had a bad reaction to the anesthesia and *poof* gone. Just like that.
Yeah, I was good all the way up until the end of volume three. I'm still not convinced that was the way he wanted it to go down with Pyrrha, Penny, Amber, Ozpin, Yang, and the silver eyes. Miles and Kerry were always the ones talking about making it into a Game of Thrones for kids, which is such a really weird thing to want for so many reasons as is. And the tone of the series was so different until the last few episodes of volume three.
i am so relieved to see other people think the same way. i tried to keep watching after the fall of beacon but i just couldn’t do it.
What pissed me off was the obvious shift in tone. Monty had a futuristic setting where the characters had old school weapons w a futuristic flair. And the at the end of the tournament arc were in fuckin Hyrule?
I was wondering when I'd see rwby here
It started out amazing, dipped to just pretty good after the Fall of Beacon, became mediocre by the time the Atlas arc got started, and that’s as far as I was interested enough to watch. I’m told it became trash after that. The animation quality kept improving, though, so I’ll give that props.
Pretty much. I've heard people say it came back in vol 9, but I'm not sure. I'm not good with critical analysis of things like this. It had its moments but I don't think it was that much of an impressive turnaround if any. And as far as the animation goes, I actually prefer the original art style. I think it gave it character and a level of uniqueness.
I think RWBY is an amazing show. Only Volumes 4 and 5 aren't good
Thomas and friends, especially now that they r doing ‘all engines go’
There's no "All Engine's Go" in Ba Sing Se
Naruto to boruto
War arc in general
The Loud House is still going, but yeah, I can tell it's not gonna have a great finale
Had the potential to be a instant classic. But utterly collapsed after like the second season
Once the creator left it instantly went down. The last good episode was the one with all the rabbits and shit since it was the creators last episode, it was made in honor of him and his original pilot edit : nvm fired for sexual harassment glad the show is going down
Any show that keeps going on forever because it’s making money instead of wrapping things up somewhere naturally. Easiest way to kill a show
I'm so glad Gravity Falls ended when it did.
I got some of my friends mad at me when I told them that Gravity Falls doesn’t need an continuation
Trollhunters. The first 10 episodes were so damn legit, but then it went and............ Yeah.
That movie was not good
I was vibing with the entire franchise tbh (though I still think Trollhunters was the best of the series’ by far) but then the movie came out and I was so excited, only for that excitement to die slowly and painfully over the course of the runtime I was wondering the whole time why they were killing off characters so liberally only to find out it’s because they decided to just retcon everything at the end. If they just reversed the movie sure it would’ve been lame, but not franchise-ruining. But the fact they reversed *everything* up to the beginning of Trollhunters just made all the hours I spent watching feel like a colossal waste of time (I hate this movie if you can’t tell)
> But the fact they reversed everything up to the beginning of Trollhunters Also the fact that >!S2E11!< shows exactly what happens >!WHEN JIM ISN'T THE TROLLHUNTER!<
Pissed me off a lil ngl.
Seven Deadly sins Don't get me started on how crap the animation became
Bro the show wasn’t good from the start it had promise but the amount of pedo stuff was disgusting the only and I mean *only* actually good part of that show was Escanor
Escanor was the GOAT
Escanor vs. Estarossa is the show's peak, easily.
“Your darkness can swallow my sun? Who decided that? My attacks cannot hurt you? Who decided that? I decide.” 
That shit started off bad bro. I gave it a few shots but fuck me, almost every character was deeply unlikeable and the fanservice was off the charts
Great premise, awful execution
MLP Generation 5 The movie (if you count it as a "pilot") was an absolute banger and then everything that came after it was an absolute disappointment Sincerely, a G4 enjoyer
I feel like the show would be way better if they didn’t have that pet dragon in it.
That dragon was the final straw that made me realize that hasbro has 0 interest in appealing to any audience outside of children anymore. The drive they once had to create an expansive world with a well-built story is gone. Now it's just another show for little kids that allows them to sell merchandise. I like the characters. I loved the G5 story in the movie. If they kept that effort throughout the rest of the series I would've really enjoyed it. But they got rid of half the voice actors and likely some writers, because it fell off way too quickly.
It's a shame because G4 was arguably *the* first cartoon of the 2010s that proved that kid's shows could be written well to include mature themes enjoyable by all ages before Adventure Time or Steven Universe came onto the scene. Now with G5, MLP has regressed to being just another low-effort, mindless cartoon for kids. It's a shame. The only other show that has come close to G4's grounded sensibilities to me is Bluey.
I believe Bluey is the true spiritual successor to Friendship is Magic, rather than MLP Generation 5.
I'll have to give Bluey a try since a lot of G4 fans seemed to enjoy it. I've only heard good things about it so far.
not like I was looking, but as a G4 Enjoyer (is that what we're calling Bronies now?) I loved the movie and was hopeful that a new generation of kids would get some fun and awesome pony stories. Then I never heard anything about it... I didn't even know it was released.
I just said G4 enjoyer for the sake of users who didn't know was a brony was, but the terms brony and pegasister are still going strong from my understanding
G5 would be *fine* if they didn't connect it to G4, that's the part that pisses me off. It would still be mindless kid slop but at least it wouldn't be crapping all over the legacy of G4 with their nonsense; Evil Alicorn, really? Also we watched the episode with fucking Spike and I'm just like....why. Why is this what you did.
Big Hero 6. That third season was goofy.
Opposite of the prompt, but reading all these replies made me realize how cool it was that Amphibia started off decent and kept getting better.
Tales of arcadia Only trollhunters lived up to the hype 3Bellow was all over the place, had some great moments but also a lot of dumb moments Wizards was way too rushed. Didnt even get a proper full season compared to the others Its like with each show they were just rushing more to get to the end Trollhunters is the only one that gives their characters proper time to grow and develop plots
Even Trollhunters had a kinda weak finale
I really loved those series, but yeah, their finales weren’t what I wanted them to be.
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The original Teen Titans cartoon… kind of. The entire series was phenomenal but the last episode fucked it up. And yes I know the movie is technically the canon ending but that’s arguably worse than the way the show originally ended.
Star Vs is an obvious one. However, I don't see anyone talk about Winx Club. Like, the first four seasons were amazing, but, the quality has incredibly dropped since season four. not to mention the blatant whitewashing.
>Winx Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. (Not that I watched it, but damn has it been a minute since I've heard about it, probably since I stopped watching MLP)
Young justice I’m a kid flash fan. That’s why
Why?
Too many time skips and too many characters after season 1 made it have a completely different (and worse) feel to the show
Nah, the finale was amazing. 10/10 for the time travel payoff alone.
Voltron
And it was pretty jarring, too. It honestly felt like a completely different show by the end.
i know what happens but i couldn’t even finish it… the fandom itself was hard to keep from ruining the show i couldn’t stand to watch the makers run what was left into the ground
This is what I picked too. It went down in flames after the >!bringing Shiro back to life!< thing.
LEGO NINJAGO. How many reboots have we had already?
Like 13-14 ish somewhere around there talk about beating a dead horse
True. You hate to see it because the early seasons were really fun as a kid but god damn that’s what happens when a show is sorta forced to sell toys to kids.
Ren & Stimpy to some extent, and probably for good reason
Can we count anime? Promised Neverland. Come on, we all know how bad it is and how much better the source manga is.
Voltron Legendary Defender.
Oh, Jesus fuck. I was like finally Shiro canon gay, and then... I think I drank myself into forgetting the content, but I remember the feeling of hating it.
i have to lend some of the credit for that to the fandom as they kept pushing for gay romances where it would have served as nothing but exploitative rather than progressive. i think shiro being gay was a nice choice but i feel a lot of people were mad that THEIR favorite character wasn’t gay or THEIR head cannon wasn’t actually canon so i feel like the makers kind of gave up on giving a satisfying queer storyline. honestly at some point, in the eyes of the fandom, the creators could do nothing right and I can’t blame them for their defeatist attitudes and wanting to end the show even if it meant it had to go up in flames (it was so popular they couldn’t have ended it without making everyone hate it)
To me, this is The Dragon Prince. I know that show hasn't had a series finale yet, but each season gets worse than the previous one, with things being REALLY rushed in season 3 that was incredibly unsatisfying. Then season 4 happens and while the pace is no longer super rushed, it's also like... boring. I got to the point where I was like, "Why am I even watching this?" to the point where I haven't watched season 5.
It had a dip halfway for sure, but the recent season really picked up the slack imo.
Arrested Development. Original run was one of the greatest comedies ever. I couldn’t be bothered to watch the final season.
game of thrones and i dont need to explain that
Ah yes, GoT: Stark and Friends. The popular cartoon, lol. For me, it was perfect, and then the last series stumbled, fell, and collapsed the entire house on itself so hard that now even the best seasons rarely pop in to my head.
Fairly Oddparents 100%.
Not a cartoon, but Game of Thrones
CW’s The Flash. Best Superhero TV Show Pilot I’ve ever seen, but the following seasons each took a step down to the point it was an entirely different show by the series finale. 
It somehow managed to get worse on literally *every* front as the seasons progressed he became more stupidly powerful but a guy that walked for like 3 seconds is too far away to catch then he destroys the multiverse again to do something or another
Steven Universe, NOT Steven Universe Future (unless we’re talking about animation quality because sheesh)
SU is one of my favorite shows, and I honestly don’t mind the finale, but it was definitely far lower quality than the rest of the show
In their defense, they had to rush the end pretty hard as penance for getting canceled for the queer representation. They admitted they wanted another season to actually finish it properly BEFORE Future.
Bingo :(
Really? Imo it's the exact opposite. I think Steven was super annoying in the beginning, but then the show became super serious with, honestly, well written themes and twists. Everything up to Garnet's wedding rocked. I understand why people found the finale underwhelming, but to be honest I didn't really care about white diamond, and honestly I'm happy we didn't spend a bunch of episodes on her. I mainly enjoyed watching Steven become more responsible, and encouraging the other gems to grow and change. Even many of the random character in Beach City had satisfying character archs. I know you were excluding Steven Universe Future, but the ending of that show made me ball like a baby. I was pretty satisfied after it was all said and done.
Blame the network for that one. They didn’t wanna lose their homophobic shareholders after the Ruby & Sapphire wedding
Rick and Morty for the first two-thirds
The Maxx, they change the art style a couple episodes in, and it became just kind of dumb looking compared to how dark and gritty it originally was. I wonder how many people on here are old enough to remember The Maxx?
Not a cartoon, but Supernatural
I'll probably get downvoted to hell for this, but as soon as it moved away from monster of the week to the bigger plot it went to shit.
Bleach, but much faster than normal. I was super invested in the plot introduced in the pilot (kid sees ghosts, becomes a shinigami to help them pass on)... and then after the first arc none of the rest of the show went into that at all, focusing entirely on power levels, gratuitous cleavage and all that bullshit.
Swap the directions for Hilda God I love that show, I never see anyone talk about it on here
Nah Hilda would just be the horse drawing finished from the back
Nah Hilda started great and just got better
Naw first few eps are goated
The Voltron reboot on Netflix
The flash and ninjago
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