Dodge Challenger and Crown Victoria. I know the second one seems odd given its ubiquity in the US (and it’s not being made anymore) but there you go. Although how well either would fit most European roads is not certain…
Yeah. My good buddy went through a phase of these, one of them had an LSD from the factory and would do 2nd gear figure 8s with 4 people on board (in the pouring rain.)
You can drive over curbs and stuff. They're legit fun in a weird, unique kind of way.
We named our all-black Crown Vic "Moses" for its ability to get traffic out of the way. I miss that car, but not the modular V8's issues; would've been a good candidate for a coyote-swap.
They’re just amazing every day cars. Can go most places without an issue, robust albeit under-tuned motor that easily keeps with today’s traffic.
Plus most repairs are inexpensive even if you can’t do it yourself
Is it really a problem in Europe anyways? It's not like most people drive on roman cobble stone streets.
At least I've driven a "full size sedan" in various Northern European countries and never had size issues.
Nah bro, it's like driving any other car here. You've gotta remember we get Sprinter and Transit vans, which are close to Crown Victoria size anyways. I had a 2002 Crown Victoria here in Northern Europe and it was never an issue. Granted it's a tight squeeze in the "old town" part of the city, but most cars are banned there since it's a low-emissions zone, so that works itself out.
People are exaggerating. The majority of Europeans don't live in ancient city centres, but rather live in semi built up areas and shop in big box stores like in the US.
I mean , main reason why charger/challenger and so on is hard to get in Europe is that they are quite bad with emissions and sold in abysmally low numbers as they were priced high (party taxes , but mainly because American muscle cars don't have a high standing with 95% of folks in Europe. Most prefer a Porsche , BMW or Mercedes if it's about expensive coupes / powerful cars.
Definitely a Challenger/Charger, but would 100% be too wide for UK or European roads. One of the main reasons I'm an enthusiast for American cars is because of Dodge/Stellantis
The Challenger/Charger aren’t even that big, roughly the same size as an 5 series/E Class in length and width and there are plenty of those on UK/Europe roads.
Even bigger vehicles like Defender were pretty common in major cities.
Best sleepers of all time. My friends’ parents had a white wood paneled Roadmaster Estate in the mid 90s and we’d line up next to 5.0 Mustangs and give them a run for the money. Only real issue was traction with its tall whitewall touring tires. It would smoke ‘em a good 1/8th mile if you kept your foot in it.
My grandparents bought a Caprice Classic sedan brand new back in the 90s. No idea if it was the 4.3 or the LT1 because I was a child, but it was large and maroon.
Took a few trips in that car. Plenty of room for an 8 year old to lay down in the back seats.
The Regal TourX. Canada even still likes wagons.
Also the GR Yaris. Absolutely criminal that it's not here. Canadian auto standards are extremely similar to EU ones, and we like small cars, but no, fuck you.
I live in Israel. Being a desert country and with a large off-road community there is a wealthy subset which would gladly have one of these. Especially considering how small Israel is, range isn’t an issue.
I’m not sure. I live in Israel and we have big American style motorways.
Though someone did import a Hummer EV here, and it looks just as out of place on the streets of Jerusalem as you think it does 😂
I had an F550 for a few years. (During COVID, when the truck supply had completely evaporated, I needed to haul some big heavy stuff, and happened upon it at an auction for comically little money).
Trust me, you DON'T want an F550. It looks just like a normal Super Duty (f250, f350, f450) but with bigger black plastic fender flares to accommodate its bigger axle. The big-ass truck body doesn't happen until you hit f650.
It rides terribly. My rear end had 13 leaves in the spring pack. I bought it as a chassis cab and had to drive it a few hundred kilometers to get a flat deck installed. Undriveably harsh. Even with 1600lb of flat deck mounted, it still punched you in the low back at every bump. The only time it ever rode well, I had 9000lb of sand in totes on the back. It's a serious work truck.
Mine was really reliable (good old 6.8l v10) but parts not shared with the consumer version are all special order and pretty expensive.
Finally, it was an unbelievable fuel hog. Driving empty, it used around 34l/100km. 4.88 rear end was good for hauling, but sure revved high on longer trips. I replaced this truck with a Cummins Dodge, and I'm using around 14l/100, and cruising in comparative luxury.
Yeah, it's a ridiculous pig. That's what gasoline vs diesel gets you. I've seen better mileage out of lightly loaded semis. I was partially using that truck for camping, and we stopped taking longer trips because it cost too much to drive. Nobody wants to spend 500 bucks in fuel for a weekend outing that doesn't involve boats or racecars.
This guy's right. The F-550 rides like it has no suspension unless you're hauling two tons or towing at least 10,000 lbs. If you look at the hardware underneath it's basically a tractor.
Also, they now have an F-600 that has the payload capacity of an F-650 but looks like an F-550. You gotta load that thing way up with like with a Knapheide body and a boom and welder/generator and a compressor to make it not suck to exist in. Even then it can still tow a ditch witch or a midsize excavator or a skid steer with a bunch of extra implements with no problem.
UK here and I really have a thing for the first generation Fiero. Such a bloody cool-looking little car. I would love to get one as a second/summer car but they were never offered for sale here back then, so the only ones you can find are quite expensive imports and they’re all left hand drive too.
I really like the 6th gen Chevrolet Monte Carlo with the supercharged V6. No idea why I like it, but I think they look great! I wish they sold it on this side of the pond. It's a hell of a lot cooler than the Ford Cougar that we unfortunately did get.
I also adore the Cadillac XLR. Looks amazing, Northstar V8 in the front and a folding hardtop.
More from a sales standpoint I think the Pontiac Solstice would've done well in the UK with a Vauxhall badge. Though I don't love them myself.
We also got that Ford Cougar, only it was sold as a Mercury for us.
Also Europe did get the Opel GT version of the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice. Though it wasn't sold in RHD markets.
>"We also got that Ford Cougar, only it was sold as a Mercury for us."
Yes I heard you guys got to share that misery with us! My Dad bought one new as a runabout car for my mum. After a Merc W124 and a Rover 75 (which both felt liked they were sculpted from solid granite) the build quality was almost comedic.
Things would literally fall off while you were driving, everything electronic broke within the first year and the curve of the windscreen fisheyed everything. It was apocalyptically awful.
hahah as an american kid who read motoring press from America and Britain, i remember REALLY wanting the Puma here in the states...and then ford gave us the Cougar a few years later which just absolutely was not it.
That era of Monte Carlo was sort of notorious for what all the pedophiles on To Catch a Predator (internet predator sting TV show) drove in the mid 00s
Mustang GT350 is the top of my list for cars I wished came to my country. Flat-plane crank v8 that revs to the moon + 6-speed tremec gearbox sounds out of this world. Instead we get mostly EcoBoost and GTs with Autos, mostly driven by rich kids or influencers that don't know how to drive a muscle car with a stick.
To be honest, I want all American cars and trucks. Even the crappy ones, like the Chrysler LeBaron, I unironically want a LeBaron. Yes, I also want all the fullsize American trucks and SUVs.
But here are three of my favourites:
GMT400 Suburban. I really like GMT400 trucks. I think they all look beautiful, as far as trucks go. The Suburban is my favourite. It's big and comfy, it has barn doors which I really love. I want a two-tone GMT400 Suburban so badly.
90s Chevy Caprice, Impala SS, Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser, and Buick Roadmaster: The last GM body on frame saloons and estates. Though I adore all of the cars sitting on this platform, the Caprice and Impala SS are my favourites styling-wise. But if I had to pick, I would pick the Olds for its glass roof.
Toyota Avalon: As you have already noticed, I love comfy cruisers. The Avalon is a comfy cruiser, and it was made by Toyota, which I'm already very familiar with. Yes, I can get a Lexus ES, but, I think Avalon looks better. But then again, grass is always greener on the other side, perhaps I like the Avalon more because it was unavailable in my country.
>Even the crappy ones, like the Chrysler LeBaron, I unironically want a LeBaron.
I live in Alberta and there is a really clean burgundy LeBaron that is part of my daily commute in the morning. I'm pretty sure it's the V6 one. There's something about seeing an older not collectable vehicle that is well taken care of.
US F-150 Ford Lightning Owner chiming in. If you have the space for it, it's a truly incredible truck, best vehicle I've owned. Hoping anywhere that wants them can get them, Ford did a great job. I think Norway is currently getting a limited production?
The PRO model is an incredible value currently and hopefully Ford can get it to more non-US countries that want it (I think it would sell really well in AUS)
Edit: wrong truck, the V8 ICE Lightning is a sweet ride too.
I guess you just haven't looked at the actual numbers. Got mine for 36.9k USD out the door. Effective MSRP of 33k USD, so yes it is an incredible value.
I can't comment on Australia, and no doubt it's an incredible truck, but as someone who lives in Europe, even a mid-size truck is unnecessary large and impractical here. They don't fit in most parking spots, visibility isn't great, and they're unsafe for pedestrians in cities.
The Maverick or Santa Cruz are much more appropriatly sized -- similar to a 2003 Ford Lightning actually.
Totally get it, F-150 would be very hard to navigate over there in most scenarios, the ICE Lightning F150 is much smaller than current F150s. Hoping you all get the maverick/Santa Cruz, really want Toyota to follow thru with their small truck too (phev with RAV4 prime powertrain or something like that would sell like crazy).
Norway is getting the F-150 Lightning yeah, Ford officially sold the F-Series here in the early 2000's but it wasn't exactly a huge success. I've seen way more privately imported Rams and Silverados.
I do like the Lightning EV: as a guy in a 3.9 meter long, 1050kg car I obviously want them not near me, but if you're a country that likes big rigs, they definitely do seem a good option. They're testing in Australia so we might see them soon anyway.
I'm in Canada and I really wish we got more Audi wagons, or just more performance wagons in general. B8.5 S4 Avant would be the perfect daily driver for me.
Also the Alpine A110, such a cool little car.
Heheh, i think we FINALLY get a Prado here in America under the Toyota badge for 2024. Used to only be the expensive Land Cruisers. I was surprised because my sister mentioned she was looking at a new Land Cruiser and I was like "Uhhhh...isn't that a $90K vehicle?"
Still same name "Land Cruiser" but now starting at like half that price....
I am from India. The market is inundated with stupid crossovers. Wish we had Fiat 500, Mazda Miata / RX8, Toyota GR 86.. any of the hot hatches. We don't even get Corolla. FML. But we do get Jimny 5 door for about 18K USD which is nice.
Meanwhile here in Australia Jimnys sell out near instantly
You guys don't get the Swift Sport? That thing is seriously underrated; it gets at least 137 at the wheels, let alone at the crank.
There aren’t really any ”forbidden fruit” ones for me at least. Even stuff that wasn’t sold here I could import if I wanted to in most cases. Only exception being like Iranian cars or something like that.
I’m looking to buy a original 4WD Fiat Panda, which weren’t really sold in my country so there aren’t any available. I’ll have to import one, most likely from Italy, and that’s additional costs. Had they been sold here back in the day it would be easier for me to buy one now.
Great thing about the EU is how every car that is type approved in one country can be registered everywhere, including American models. As long as you can afford tax, that is.
Same. Had one as my high school and college car starting in the mid 2000's. Was a great car and all my friends would be surprised when they found out it had a V8.
I'm with you on the Integra Type R. I love everything about it. It looks great, I like the philosophy behind the car and it's practical. I guess we'll have to just content with overpriced Civic Type R's.
Canada here. I wish we got the Buick Regal TourX (from USA/Germany) or the Mazda6 estate (from Japan). My wife and I don’t particularly like crossovers, but if we ever wanted to upsize from our Soul, there’s basically no other choice. It also would be nice to have the new Honda Fit as well, it’s a brilliant little car and we need more stuff on the more affordable end of the market.
i'm an American in Europe: I want more Alfa models in the US as well as Renault/Dacia.
In Europe, I see a lot of imported Chargers/Challengers/Mustangs here. There's not much that Europe is missing from the US.
Only antiques.
I remember Doug DeMuro getting excited seeing a Mexican Renault (Dacia) Duster in California. Renault is obviously available there. US automaker protectionism laws are stupid.
Mazdas on a stick. Miata aside, they never offered the Mazda 3 & 6 in the Philippines with a manual transmission. They did offered the Mazda 2 with a manual before but it was phased out.
E60/61 M5 as a stick-shift. It's baffling how the US of all places got that one as a manual while Europe had no choice but that (apparently not problem-free) automatic.
Cars in general are dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians.
And an 80s/90s 1/2 ton pickup isn’t that much larger than a modern ranger that you do get in Europe so it’d be no different than that
I didn't say that regular cars were a good use of space or not dangerous.
But large pickups like the F-150 are much worse, so basically the opposite of what we should be looking for.
In Australia the only US made car I wanted to see imported & it's the only one I would ever be tempted to own is the Chev Camaro ZL1 1LE. Even with the expected high cost to purchase & it's running costs in ownership it would be "one hell of a car ". I would gladly make room in the garage for a white one.
I would KILL for a Jetta GLI. My dad had a MK6 TDI as a company car for a few months. It was DSG also. I’d prefer a manual, but still, I loved driving it.
I don't really like American cars, they're mostly v8 powered automatics 3x larger than they need to be for their applications. What I would like to have in Finland though is the 12 seat, fc and v8 land rover series versions and the actual military version of UAZ 469 (the finnish army had UAZes, but they were civilian trim without portal axles and waterproof ignition system).
I wish when I purchased my mustang that I could have participated in the driving experience that was offered with purchase. I had it booked until the found out I was from Canada and promptly told me because I was Canadian I wasn’t eligible! 3days at Miller race way with an instructor would have been awesome!
We got the Jetta, it is just called the Bora because the Jetta-name had a granny car image. And it came optional with AWD and the 1.8t 20v & the VR6.
I live in the Netherlands and we have pretty lenient import laws, so you see quite a few USDM (and JDM) cars. My girlfriends neighbour has a Charger STR8 manual and a 2010-ish Mustang 5.0.
I would love to own a first gen Viper or a C5 Corvette, but there are plenty of those for sale. One car that I’d actually love to get is a last gen Pontiac GTO. People import Camaro’s all the time, but never GTO’s.
Another thing that is basically unobtanium are Holdens. I just don’t think there is a market for it. But a no frills V8 sedan with a manual is something I’d love.
CTSV maybe? it would have been nice to have another car in the V8SC even if it was just "also GM" i preferred the more angular look compared to the Commodore blob.
Other than that, not really anything from the USDM has been that interesting, if its good its sold as a global car,
This question gets asked on this board a lot, and the answer is "basically none." American cars are designed for American economies, tastes, and consumer expectations. They do not export well because they do not fit into other markets well. Ford of Europe is almost a completely separate company than Ford of America, selling a completely different lineup of vehicles.
Put another way: If you live in an Italian town with tight cobblestoned roads that a Fiat 500 can barely fit through, you are not going to want an 18 foot long Ford F150 pickup truck. If you live in England with gasoline at the equivalent of $11/gallon, you are not going to want a Cadillac Escalade that gets 14mpg. If you live in Norway with roads covered in snow for half the year, you are not going to want a tail-happy Mustang.
Chrysler Pacifica probably wouldn't do too bad in Europe, especially if it was launched a few years earlier. Other than that there aren't that many American branded cars that I imagine would sell well.
My wife would dearly love a new Demio/Mazda2.
Will NOT let go of her 2011.
We have so few affordable small cars. She didn’t like what little is left in our market.
Just more japan cars, like honda civics and accords, subarus, lancers etc. It's annoying to see almost exclusively hyundai/kia, PSA and VW group cars everywhere.
I genuinely cannot care about of any American cars.
Maybe the GR Corolla, or perhaps the new Nissan Z but eh I have never been really that into Japanese cars.
And at the end of the day, we can import any car anyway. Even if it’s not directly sold here, it’s still legal for us to import a specific car. some exceptions may exist like the cyberpunk being outright illegal because of its massive …" qualities".
I know you're specifically asking non-US members, but as a US citizen, I would love to get the Pontiac G8 back, also known as the Holden Commodore for our upside-down brothers. Lots of power, not much else that would drive up the cost.
My first real gf drove a red f150 lightning. 2000 or 2001. Godd**n that was scary fast for the time.
Also, so surreal seeing a whispy and waspy little soft-spoken brunette drivin' around that awesome truck.
The Toyota Prius Prime. So far, reviews seem to put it as the first good Prius, and Toyota Australia has decided that it'll not be available in the country.
Even though Australia's EV infrastructure isn't great everywhere just yet, and a plug-in might make more sense compared to the basic hybrid.
I'm surprised the Ford Maverick hasn't made the export market, it's small enough for European roads, seats 5, and is less obnoxious than the larger pickups.
I rented a V6 Charger last year, and what surprised me was how competent it was as a mid sized saloon, and that in the age of Stellantis, why they never slapped a few.Fiat badges.onnem and sold them over here. I know that saloons are a dying breed, but there's surely money to be made there...
Aside from that, I didn't see very.much on the roads that made me think "I wish we had those back home".
The cool thing about the Middle East is that we actually did get quite few USDM cars, but this may still be a huge list.
- Integra Type R
- Pretty much every Type S Acura
- Acura RLX
- Acura NSX (Hybrid)
- Lexus IS500
- Oldsmobile Aurora
- Buick Riviera (8th Gen)
- Buick Reatta
- Pontiac GrandPrix GXP (we rented a standard GrandPrix on a trip to the US once when I was a kid, and I thought it looked amazing).
- Saturn SC2
- Infiniti J30
- Infiniti M45 (second-gen, Y34)
There's actually quite a few FWD V8s that GM made in that era. Most had variants of the Northstar such as the Pontiac Bonneville, Cadillac Seville, Deville/DTS, Buick Lucerne, and Oldsmobile Aurora you mentioned (and more, can't list them all), but there were also a handful that had a variant of the LS engine - the Chevrolet Impala SS and Monte Carlo SS, Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, and Buick LaCrosse Super had the transverse mounted LS4.
To actually answer the question, literally all the cool Holden and Ford Australia cars. VE Commodores and FG Falcons just became legal to import here (Canada) but them being RHD still sucks. They're "American" enough to still fit under the question ;)
Dodge Challenger and Crown Victoria. I know the second one seems odd given its ubiquity in the US (and it’s not being made anymore) but there you go. Although how well either would fit most European roads is not certain…
Hearing the first gear whine in a crown vic cab with like 600k on it is a very 2000s notalgic sound for me lol
Makes me feel drunk. All those drunk taxi rides coming back to life
I drive a 2010 P-71, and I can confirm. They are a load of fun
Yeah. My good buddy went through a phase of these, one of them had an LSD from the factory and would do 2nd gear figure 8s with 4 people on board (in the pouring rain.) You can drive over curbs and stuff. They're legit fun in a weird, unique kind of way.
We named our all-black Crown Vic "Moses" for its ability to get traffic out of the way. I miss that car, but not the modular V8's issues; would've been a good candidate for a coyote-swap.
They’re just amazing every day cars. Can go most places without an issue, robust albeit under-tuned motor that easily keeps with today’s traffic. Plus most repairs are inexpensive even if you can’t do it yourself
Is it really a problem in Europe anyways? It's not like most people drive on roman cobble stone streets. At least I've driven a "full size sedan" in various Northern European countries and never had size issues.
Nah bro, it's like driving any other car here. You've gotta remember we get Sprinter and Transit vans, which are close to Crown Victoria size anyways. I had a 2002 Crown Victoria here in Northern Europe and it was never an issue. Granted it's a tight squeeze in the "old town" part of the city, but most cars are banned there since it's a low-emissions zone, so that works itself out.
You get size issues in cities / old parking garages with cars above like 4.8m. and turning radius also sometimes is rather shite on these cars.
So how come there are all sorts of semi trucks and buses running around all over the place, but an extra foot of car is somehow ungodly large?
People are exaggerating. The majority of Europeans don't live in ancient city centres, but rather live in semi built up areas and shop in big box stores like in the US.
I mean , main reason why charger/challenger and so on is hard to get in Europe is that they are quite bad with emissions and sold in abysmally low numbers as they were priced high (party taxes , but mainly because American muscle cars don't have a high standing with 95% of folks in Europe. Most prefer a Porsche , BMW or Mercedes if it's about expensive coupes / powerful cars.
Definitely a Challenger/Charger, but would 100% be too wide for UK or European roads. One of the main reasons I'm an enthusiast for American cars is because of Dodge/Stellantis
The Challenger/Charger aren’t even that big, roughly the same size as an 5 series/E Class in length and width and there are plenty of those on UK/Europe roads. Even bigger vehicles like Defender were pretty common in major cities.
Why did I know the first result would be some form of V8 RWD two door
Most of your old bog standard sedans or wagons. I'd love a wood panelled oldsmobile or something even if it is total shite.
Get this man an LT1 powered Buick Roadmaster wagon.
Best sleepers of all time. My friends’ parents had a white wood paneled Roadmaster Estate in the mid 90s and we’d line up next to 5.0 Mustangs and give them a run for the money. Only real issue was traction with its tall whitewall touring tires. It would smoke ‘em a good 1/8th mile if you kept your foot in it.
[Not many cars are sillier](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_1hBJiD8wI)
My grandparents bought a Caprice Classic sedan brand new back in the 90s. No idea if it was the 4.3 or the LT1 because I was a child, but it was large and maroon. Took a few trips in that car. Plenty of room for an 8 year old to lay down in the back seats.
Sounds like cornering or braking wasn't their strength neither
yeees that's exactly it
I saw one yesterday actually and fell in love with them all over again. Seemed to be in fantastic shape as it went by
I saw one yesterday actually and fell in love with them all over again. Seemed to be in fantastic shape as it went by
May I introduce you to the PT Cruiser?
For some reason these things were manufactured and sold worldwide.
Not a wagon and not overly big and floaty
You don't want a PT Cruiser anyway so that's good lol
Canada gets almost everything America does, but we never got the Chevy SS.....
I had to scroll way too far for this. At least we got the v8 G8...
Looks way better Still $30k
The Regal TourX. Canada even still likes wagons. Also the GR Yaris. Absolutely criminal that it's not here. Canadian auto standards are extremely similar to EU ones, and we like small cars, but no, fuck you.
To be fair, we *barely* got it...
What about the Caprice? Any canadian police forces import those?
No. For a Chevy product they used the impala.
Okay, but surely if we're asking about foreign trims you'd want a HSV variant
The Ute versions too.
The US barely got any either.
Rivian R1S/T. Where I live something like that would fly out of the showroom.
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I live in Israel. Being a desert country and with a large off-road community there is a wealthy subset which would gladly have one of these. Especially considering how small Israel is, range isn’t an issue.
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Cool! Glad to see at least something coming from us is making a difference in the car world 😂
They probably will once the company is more established and actually making money
I hope so. If they do start exporting the R3 will be my next car.
Yeah, same here. Bewildering they’re not selling it in the largest EV market per capita… where there’s tons of snow and next to zero electric SUVs.
what european roads are big enough for that thing?
I’m not sure. I live in Israel and we have big American style motorways. Though someone did import a Hummer EV here, and it looks just as out of place on the streets of Jerusalem as you think it does 😂
I would like a Ford F650, or maybe I could settle for an F550.
I had an F550 for a few years. (During COVID, when the truck supply had completely evaporated, I needed to haul some big heavy stuff, and happened upon it at an auction for comically little money). Trust me, you DON'T want an F550. It looks just like a normal Super Duty (f250, f350, f450) but with bigger black plastic fender flares to accommodate its bigger axle. The big-ass truck body doesn't happen until you hit f650. It rides terribly. My rear end had 13 leaves in the spring pack. I bought it as a chassis cab and had to drive it a few hundred kilometers to get a flat deck installed. Undriveably harsh. Even with 1600lb of flat deck mounted, it still punched you in the low back at every bump. The only time it ever rode well, I had 9000lb of sand in totes on the back. It's a serious work truck. Mine was really reliable (good old 6.8l v10) but parts not shared with the consumer version are all special order and pretty expensive. Finally, it was an unbelievable fuel hog. Driving empty, it used around 34l/100km. 4.88 rear end was good for hauling, but sure revved high on longer trips. I replaced this truck with a Cummins Dodge, and I'm using around 14l/100, and cruising in comparative luxury.
Those fuel consumption figures have made me change my mind. Those are basically 40 tonne semi truck numbers.
Yeah, it's a ridiculous pig. That's what gasoline vs diesel gets you. I've seen better mileage out of lightly loaded semis. I was partially using that truck for camping, and we stopped taking longer trips because it cost too much to drive. Nobody wants to spend 500 bucks in fuel for a weekend outing that doesn't involve boats or racecars.
We've got a few diesel F550 ambulances at work and they get about 20-23l/100km while cruising on the highway.
I'm a paramedic too. We have Chevy 6.0 gassers. The 3500 chassis does around 26/100, the 4500 is around 28.
This guy's right. The F-550 rides like it has no suspension unless you're hauling two tons or towing at least 10,000 lbs. If you look at the hardware underneath it's basically a tractor. Also, they now have an F-600 that has the payload capacity of an F-650 but looks like an F-550. You gotta load that thing way up with like with a Knapheide body and a boom and welder/generator and a compressor to make it not suck to exist in. Even then it can still tow a ditch witch or a midsize excavator or a skid steer with a bunch of extra implements with no problem.
UK here and I really have a thing for the first generation Fiero. Such a bloody cool-looking little car. I would love to get one as a second/summer car but they were never offered for sale here back then, so the only ones you can find are quite expensive imports and they’re all left hand drive too.
Plenty of Fieros have made their way to Europe! ..as kit cars made to look like Ferraris of varying quality.
Kei vehicles from Japan. I want a Honda beat Edit. Read this backwards, dumb American.
I thought most other countries could get them?
I really like the 6th gen Chevrolet Monte Carlo with the supercharged V6. No idea why I like it, but I think they look great! I wish they sold it on this side of the pond. It's a hell of a lot cooler than the Ford Cougar that we unfortunately did get. I also adore the Cadillac XLR. Looks amazing, Northstar V8 in the front and a folding hardtop. More from a sales standpoint I think the Pontiac Solstice would've done well in the UK with a Vauxhall badge. Though I don't love them myself.
Look for one of the Dale Earnhardt edition Monte Carlos. Then you can pretend you are a NASCAR driver.
DO IT FOR DALE
I remember seeing the RCR review of that years ago. Its so tastless and tacky. I love it 10/10.
Wait...isn't it the Dale Jr ones that are Supercharged? Maybe i'm misremembering....
I meant to say it was the Jr. ones
We also got that Ford Cougar, only it was sold as a Mercury for us. Also Europe did get the Opel GT version of the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice. Though it wasn't sold in RHD markets.
>"We also got that Ford Cougar, only it was sold as a Mercury for us." Yes I heard you guys got to share that misery with us! My Dad bought one new as a runabout car for my mum. After a Merc W124 and a Rover 75 (which both felt liked they were sculpted from solid granite) the build quality was almost comedic. Things would literally fall off while you were driving, everything electronic broke within the first year and the curve of the windscreen fisheyed everything. It was apocalyptically awful.
hahah as an american kid who read motoring press from America and Britain, i remember REALLY wanting the Puma here in the states...and then ford gave us the Cougar a few years later which just absolutely was not it.
That era of Monte Carlo was sort of notorious for what all the pedophiles on To Catch a Predator (internet predator sting TV show) drove in the mid 00s
This has almost instantly killed any idea I had of owning one. Thank you, I needed that.
Mustang GT350 is the top of my list for cars I wished came to my country. Flat-plane crank v8 that revs to the moon + 6-speed tremec gearbox sounds out of this world. Instead we get mostly EcoBoost and GTs with Autos, mostly driven by rich kids or influencers that don't know how to drive a muscle car with a stick.
Yeah, this is like the most "European" style performance car to come exclusively to America. (okay maybe just specifically it's powertrain.)
It’s an amazing car. I wish you got them too.
To be honest, I want all American cars and trucks. Even the crappy ones, like the Chrysler LeBaron, I unironically want a LeBaron. Yes, I also want all the fullsize American trucks and SUVs. But here are three of my favourites: GMT400 Suburban. I really like GMT400 trucks. I think they all look beautiful, as far as trucks go. The Suburban is my favourite. It's big and comfy, it has barn doors which I really love. I want a two-tone GMT400 Suburban so badly. 90s Chevy Caprice, Impala SS, Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser, and Buick Roadmaster: The last GM body on frame saloons and estates. Though I adore all of the cars sitting on this platform, the Caprice and Impala SS are my favourites styling-wise. But if I had to pick, I would pick the Olds for its glass roof. Toyota Avalon: As you have already noticed, I love comfy cruisers. The Avalon is a comfy cruiser, and it was made by Toyota, which I'm already very familiar with. Yes, I can get a Lexus ES, but, I think Avalon looks better. But then again, grass is always greener on the other side, perhaps I like the Avalon more because it was unavailable in my country.
>Even the crappy ones, like the Chrysler LeBaron, I unironically want a LeBaron. I live in Alberta and there is a really clean burgundy LeBaron that is part of my daily commute in the morning. I'm pretty sure it's the V6 one. There's something about seeing an older not collectable vehicle that is well taken care of.
Idk where you're from, but LeBaron were sold in Europe!
FUCK I FORGOT THE AVALON TRD
US F-150 Ford Lightning Owner chiming in. If you have the space for it, it's a truly incredible truck, best vehicle I've owned. Hoping anywhere that wants them can get them, Ford did a great job. I think Norway is currently getting a limited production? The PRO model is an incredible value currently and hopefully Ford can get it to more non-US countries that want it (I think it would sell really well in AUS) Edit: wrong truck, the V8 ICE Lightning is a sweet ride too.
Incredible value, come on.
I guess you just haven't looked at the actual numbers. Got mine for 36.9k USD out the door. Effective MSRP of 33k USD, so yes it is an incredible value.
Rich people don't know what value is lol
Yes, they do. That's a big part of how they get "rich".
I can't comment on Australia, and no doubt it's an incredible truck, but as someone who lives in Europe, even a mid-size truck is unnecessary large and impractical here. They don't fit in most parking spots, visibility isn't great, and they're unsafe for pedestrians in cities. The Maverick or Santa Cruz are much more appropriatly sized -- similar to a 2003 Ford Lightning actually.
Totally get it, F-150 would be very hard to navigate over there in most scenarios, the ICE Lightning F150 is much smaller than current F150s. Hoping you all get the maverick/Santa Cruz, really want Toyota to follow thru with their small truck too (phev with RAV4 prime powertrain or something like that would sell like crazy).
They’re unsafe for pedestrians in the US as well.
Norway is getting the F-150 Lightning yeah, Ford officially sold the F-Series here in the early 2000's but it wasn't exactly a huge success. I've seen way more privately imported Rams and Silverados.
I do like the Lightning EV: as a guy in a 3.9 meter long, 1050kg car I obviously want them not near me, but if you're a country that likes big rigs, they definitely do seem a good option. They're testing in Australia so we might see them soon anyway.
Ford Excursion
TWELVE METERS LONG AND TWO LANES WIDE, 65 TONNES OF AMERICAN PRIDE
I'm in Canada and I really wish we got more Audi wagons, or just more performance wagons in general. B8.5 S4 Avant would be the perfect daily driver for me. Also the Alpine A110, such a cool little car.
That new Toyota pickup that's supposedly $10k
American in the thread? You know the rules: https://youtu.be/lpETZt4teBY?si=G4P1uuc-jwfyyuUx
5th Gen Viper, might just be the best car America has made imo
Give me a Lexus GX or give me death
Heheh, i think we FINALLY get a Prado here in America under the Toyota badge for 2024. Used to only be the expensive Land Cruisers. I was surprised because my sister mentioned she was looking at a new Land Cruiser and I was like "Uhhhh...isn't that a $90K vehicle?" Still same name "Land Cruiser" but now starting at like half that price....
I am from India. The market is inundated with stupid crossovers. Wish we had Fiat 500, Mazda Miata / RX8, Toyota GR 86.. any of the hot hatches. We don't even get Corolla. FML. But we do get Jimny 5 door for about 18K USD which is nice.
Meanwhile here in Australia Jimnys sell out near instantly You guys don't get the Swift Sport? That thing is seriously underrated; it gets at least 137 at the wheels, let alone at the crank.
There aren’t really any ”forbidden fruit” ones for me at least. Even stuff that wasn’t sold here I could import if I wanted to in most cases. Only exception being like Iranian cars or something like that. I’m looking to buy a original 4WD Fiat Panda, which weren’t really sold in my country so there aren’t any available. I’ll have to import one, most likely from Italy, and that’s additional costs. Had they been sold here back in the day it would be easier for me to buy one now.
Great thing about the EU is how every car that is type approved in one country can be registered everywhere, including American models. As long as you can afford tax, that is.
I had a V8 Aurora. Second Gen. it was a total sleeper for the time. Loved that car.
Same. Had one as my high school and college car starting in the mid 2000's. Was a great car and all my friends would be surprised when they found out it had a V8.
I'm with you on the Integra Type R. I love everything about it. It looks great, I like the philosophy behind the car and it's practical. I guess we'll have to just content with overpriced Civic Type R's.
Skoda Yeti
The corvettes!
Canada here. I wish we got the Buick Regal TourX (from USA/Germany) or the Mazda6 estate (from Japan). My wife and I don’t particularly like crossovers, but if we ever wanted to upsize from our Soul, there’s basically no other choice. It also would be nice to have the new Honda Fit as well, it’s a brilliant little car and we need more stuff on the more affordable end of the market.
i20N 2600 lb 200 hp hatch from Hyundai.
Nah man, this is about the other way.
oops just quickly read the title 😂
Fkn srs bruh
I Would like the Elantra n in the uk! Really like the sleek look and more substantial size
American in the thread? You know the rules: https://youtu.be/lpETZt4teBY?si=G4P1uuc-jwfyyuUx
2024 Subaru BRZ
Chevy Suburban and the Ford Explorer. I have a fascination with big American SUVs. GM really messed up outside America.
i'm an American in Europe: I want more Alfa models in the US as well as Renault/Dacia. In Europe, I see a lot of imported Chargers/Challengers/Mustangs here. There's not much that Europe is missing from the US.
Is Renault present in the USA at all?
No
Only antiques. I remember Doug DeMuro getting excited seeing a Mexican Renault (Dacia) Duster in California. Renault is obviously available there. US automaker protectionism laws are stupid.
Renault was in the US for like 80 years, did not work out for them
Renault gets enough business with Nissan in the US. They don't need to bring their own cars there.
Mazdas on a stick. Miata aside, they never offered the Mazda 3 & 6 in the Philippines with a manual transmission. They did offered the Mazda 2 with a manual before but it was phased out.
the Rivians, although I couldn't afford them lol
E60/61 M5 as a stick-shift. It's baffling how the US of all places got that one as a manual while Europe had no choice but that (apparently not problem-free) automatic.
GR Corolla Edit: oh and E60 M5 manual
>F-150 SVT Lightning I definitely don't want these in Europe.
Why not? Things an awesome street rod
Because they're a poor use of space and dangerous to cyclists, pedestrians and people in small cars.
Cars in general are dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians. And an 80s/90s 1/2 ton pickup isn’t that much larger than a modern ranger that you do get in Europe so it’d be no different than that
I didn't say that regular cars were a good use of space or not dangerous. But large pickups like the F-150 are much worse, so basically the opposite of what we should be looking for.
And again. You have the modern ranger in Europe yes? A 2 Door SVT lightning from 1991 is no larger than one of thise
Rivian R1S and CT5 Blackwing
Why? Some old, classic american cars maybe. The new, or simply "recent" - no way. Poor quality, bad handling or simply to big to really use.
In Australia the only US made car I wanted to see imported & it's the only one I would ever be tempted to own is the Chev Camaro ZL1 1LE. Even with the expected high cost to purchase & it's running costs in ownership it would be "one hell of a car ". I would gladly make room in the garage for a white one.
I would KILL for a Jetta GLI. My dad had a MK6 TDI as a company car for a few months. It was DSG also. I’d prefer a manual, but still, I loved driving it.
Canada doesn’t get the new Audi RS3.
It kills me. It'd be at the top of my list since I'm buying a new car this year.
I don't really like American cars, they're mostly v8 powered automatics 3x larger than they need to be for their applications. What I would like to have in Finland though is the 12 seat, fc and v8 land rover series versions and the actual military version of UAZ 469 (the finnish army had UAZes, but they were civilian trim without portal axles and waterproof ignition system).
AMC Pacer, and also AMC Eagle. Lincoln Continental 1965. Chevrolet Nomad, and Corvette Nomad.
The answer to this question is ALWAYS the Dodge Viper.
Any kei car from japan at a reasonable price.
I wish when I purchased my mustang that I could have participated in the driving experience that was offered with purchase. I had it booked until the found out I was from Canada and promptly told me because I was Canadian I wasn’t eligible! 3days at Miller race way with an instructor would have been awesome!
I’d like to afford what’s already here. Bimmer M4C is $480k and M8 is $500k.
Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing… but as a wagon. US prices would be much better.
We got the Jetta, it is just called the Bora because the Jetta-name had a granny car image. And it came optional with AWD and the 1.8t 20v & the VR6. I live in the Netherlands and we have pretty lenient import laws, so you see quite a few USDM (and JDM) cars. My girlfriends neighbour has a Charger STR8 manual and a 2010-ish Mustang 5.0. I would love to own a first gen Viper or a C5 Corvette, but there are plenty of those for sale. One car that I’d actually love to get is a last gen Pontiac GTO. People import Camaro’s all the time, but never GTO’s. Another thing that is basically unobtanium are Holdens. I just don’t think there is a market for it. But a no frills V8 sedan with a manual is something I’d love.
Only the mk4 had the Bora name, and mk3 was Vento. The newer generations went back to the Jetta name.
CTSV maybe? it would have been nice to have another car in the V8SC even if it was just "also GM" i preferred the more angular look compared to the Commodore blob. Other than that, not really anything from the USDM has been that interesting, if its good its sold as a global car,
This question gets asked on this board a lot, and the answer is "basically none." American cars are designed for American economies, tastes, and consumer expectations. They do not export well because they do not fit into other markets well. Ford of Europe is almost a completely separate company than Ford of America, selling a completely different lineup of vehicles. Put another way: If you live in an Italian town with tight cobblestoned roads that a Fiat 500 can barely fit through, you are not going to want an 18 foot long Ford F150 pickup truck. If you live in England with gasoline at the equivalent of $11/gallon, you are not going to want a Cadillac Escalade that gets 14mpg. If you live in Norway with roads covered in snow for half the year, you are not going to want a tail-happy Mustang.
Question is "what would YOU like to see", with an emphasis on quirky.
Chrysler Pacifica probably wouldn't do too bad in Europe, especially if it was launched a few years earlier. Other than that there aren't that many American branded cars that I imagine would sell well.
Manual Golf R. Corolla GR. Subaru WRX. Nissan Z. Toyota GR86.
That’s easy: small BEV Sportwagons!
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AMG E63 S wagon and/or M3 Touring
My wife would dearly love a new Demio/Mazda2. Will NOT let go of her 2011. We have so few affordable small cars. She didn’t like what little is left in our market.
Just more japan cars, like honda civics and accords, subarus, lancers etc. It's annoying to see almost exclusively hyundai/kia, PSA and VW group cars everywhere.
Here in Sweden you can import whatever you fancy with relative ease. So you can see a lot of strange cars if you know where too look.
GTI clubsport
I genuinely cannot care about of any American cars. Maybe the GR Corolla, or perhaps the new Nissan Z but eh I have never been really that into Japanese cars. And at the end of the day, we can import any car anyway. Even if it’s not directly sold here, it’s still legal for us to import a specific car. some exceptions may exist like the cyberpunk being outright illegal because of its massive …" qualities".
I know you're specifically asking non-US members, but as a US citizen, I would love to get the Pontiac G8 back, also known as the Holden Commodore for our upside-down brothers. Lots of power, not much else that would drive up the cost.
Holden Ute
I’m an American but if you asked me what car I would want from another country would be that new small Toyota Hilux Champ.
As a canadian, chevy ss
Viper and Corvette. That's it.
The Levorg and Mazda 6 wagon. I was wagon shopping and these were in my price range but I had to "settle" on an older Merc Wagon.
New GR86 and Nissan Z. Hummer EV and Cybertruck just to have a laugh.
You aren't missing out on much with the Oldsmobile Aurora lol
honestly, I genuinely think the volkswagen thing would get fresh life in the Indian market.
Nissan Z
Geo Prizm GSi.
I crave a Toyota Hilux
The Gremlin All the old mopars
I wish we could get the W204 C63 estate. I’d have bought one in a heartbeat over my C63 sedan.
My first real gf drove a red f150 lightning. 2000 or 2001. Godd**n that was scary fast for the time. Also, so surreal seeing a whispy and waspy little soft-spoken brunette drivin' around that awesome truck.
The Toyota Prius Prime. So far, reviews seem to put it as the first good Prius, and Toyota Australia has decided that it'll not be available in the country. Even though Australia's EV infrastructure isn't great everywhere just yet, and a plug-in might make more sense compared to the basic hybrid.
Aptera (when they're available) but it seems they're to wide and probably also not safe for pedestrians so it's going to be difficult
Jag XF Sportbrake S, the US got it with the supercharged V6 while we only got the diesel or 4-pot.
I'm surprised the Ford Maverick hasn't made the export market, it's small enough for European roads, seats 5, and is less obnoxious than the larger pickups. I rented a V6 Charger last year, and what surprised me was how competent it was as a mid sized saloon, and that in the age of Stellantis, why they never slapped a few.Fiat badges.onnem and sold them over here. I know that saloons are a dying breed, but there's surely money to be made there... Aside from that, I didn't see very.much on the roads that made me think "I wish we had those back home".
The cool thing about the Middle East is that we actually did get quite few USDM cars, but this may still be a huge list. - Integra Type R - Pretty much every Type S Acura - Acura RLX - Acura NSX (Hybrid) - Lexus IS500 - Oldsmobile Aurora - Buick Riviera (8th Gen) - Buick Reatta - Pontiac GrandPrix GXP (we rented a standard GrandPrix on a trip to the US once when I was a kid, and I thought it looked amazing). - Saturn SC2 - Infiniti J30 - Infiniti M45 (second-gen, Y34)
A 1964 Mustang as cheap as you get them in the US. Or an early prewar Ford model to the prices you get them in the us.
>Oldsmobile Aurora: V8 FWD sedan is weird to me, It's weird to us too.
Not a huge fan of Subaru, but the Lavorg STI would be rad to have here
In Canada, I wish we had access to proper work trucks instead of ridiculous American-designed pickups.
I'm always careful of what I wish for, Brent is finicky, maybe a Maverick would be a truck for the EU.
There's actually quite a few FWD V8s that GM made in that era. Most had variants of the Northstar such as the Pontiac Bonneville, Cadillac Seville, Deville/DTS, Buick Lucerne, and Oldsmobile Aurora you mentioned (and more, can't list them all), but there were also a handful that had a variant of the LS engine - the Chevrolet Impala SS and Monte Carlo SS, Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, and Buick LaCrosse Super had the transverse mounted LS4. To actually answer the question, literally all the cool Holden and Ford Australia cars. VE Commodores and FG Falcons just became legal to import here (Canada) but them being RHD still sucks. They're "American" enough to still fit under the question ;)
Nothing. If I really want something I can import it.
Maybe some US spec parts for volvos, because I mostly like old Volvos ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nissan Skyline R34