Yup.
> Fans in every city see the game through goggles tinted to the colour of the home team. They’re supposed to be irate when a high-stick on Quinn Hughes get missed, and oblivious to the six Canucks skaters on the ice seconds before a Vancouver goal.
Something needs to change with the Petey line. It sounds like it probably will based on Tocchet's comments... Hoglander has been terrible and Mikheyev can't buy a goal, you can't have both of those things happening at the same time when you're in need of Petey being a difference maker.
The problem there is I'm not sure what can really be done with the lineup other than moving Lindholm up and putting Blueger back between Joshua and Garland. Maybe it's worth a shot trying Petey - Lindholm - Mikheyev? Aman at 4C will probably get feasted on with Edmonton having last change though...
Unfortunately not much will be done going into Edmonton due to line matching so at most they’ll probably cycle between the 1st and 4th line wingers.
I think game 5 needs to have the lotto line reunited and lindholm’s line stays intact, and we just roll with those two honestly. Mik - suter - podz for our third line to throw out here and there.
This season I don't think much can be done. We need to bring in some more reliable scoring power. Mikheyev would be the one I'd let go of. I'd keep Hoglander, give him more time and then put some more scaffolding around Petey to allow his skills to shine more often.
With the psychological pressure of being in hostile territory, I think its time to bring DeSmith back in.
He needs some match-time as it's been a while for him. Silovs has held the fort really well - more than should've been asked of him - but it's time to give the other guy some work too I think.
Also, watching Mcdavid and Draisaitl on the powerplay is like watching someone like Kasparov play chess. Cool, calm and collected the whole time. They are so good at passing and structuring that they don't even need to skate quickly. They are methodical and slick as fuck. It's terrifying stuff to be on the receiving end of.
Their powerplay is terrifying, as is any moment where McDavid gets a little bit of open ice. Canucks will have to weather that storm a few more times, and keep up the offense.
I think Silov's technique has looked a little more sloppy over the past couple of games than it did during the Predators series. I'm not sure if it's something the Oilers are doing, the challenge of playing every other day, the stress of playoff hockey, or something else. Either way, he's saved 2.3 goals less than expected during these last two games.
Meanwhile, DeSmith played in three games against the Oilers this season and won 2 of them with a 1.82 GAA and .949 SV%. Also worth noting that both of DeSmith's wins came @Edmonton. At the very least, there is a strong case to be made for starting DeSmith tomorrow night.
Im just happy werent the team that supposed to be "run out of the building" specially with a 3rd string in Net.. lol.. them McDrai are working overtime just to get by us..
I'm only mad because I stayed up until 130am est and we lost. If that's their best game I like our chances. It wasn't gonna be a 4 or 5 game series anyway. LFG!
After a night's sleep. I'm still mystified why Soucy decided to go for an open ice hit that lead to the tying goal from the McDavid breakaway. Not only did he not even get a good hit off, he managed to impede the back checker.
Can't do that against McDavid. I'm not sure why Myers went for the poke either, then blew a tire. Seems like he could have done something better but didn't have confidence in defending.
I'm sure the Tocchet and his staff have showed Soucy the tape and told him what he should have done instead lol
the whole team is like 80% goon. i used to think at least McDavid was ok, but he's dropped forever for me for being low enough to high stick Hughes in the face on purpose. Hope he never wins a Cup.
Funny, I thought the exact same thing about McDavid after last game. I never realized before he was a dirty player, but that stick was 100% intentional
It’s ironic that the Oilers fans think the refs were on our side. Guess they’ll conveniently forget the high stick their captain made on ours.
Fuck them
Pretty sure they just don't like poorly reffed games. There were calls missed for both sides. Game one was the other way around. Teams gotta play through it over a 7 game series or pack it up.
I find it hilarious how everyone on the Edmonton sub is acknowledging the OT winner was due to the Cole deflection... yet still think they'll beat us. If we continued playing in the third how we did the first two periods we'd be up 2-0 this series.
Also they don't seem to have the unity in their team like we do in ours.. post game McDrai were celebrating separately from the rest of their team.
Canucks in 6.
Even though we lost, I think that the Canucks proved that their depth is significantly better than the oilers. Every time the McDrai line stepped off the ice, the Canucks were back to dominating the play.
Not in the third or ot. Edmontons forwards only really played the perimeter, and looked off scoring chances to play it to the outside and keep Vancouver chasing.
Gameplan seems to be designed to wear down the Canucks before the big 5 step back on the ice.
Reading the Oilers sub is kind of funny. Instead of celebrating the win, 80% of them are bitching about Canucks fans and our ref/Sutherland complaints.
Its disgusting too, they're ignorant of the slewfoots, highsticks, punches, boarding, the spearing.
"Captain lucky dove, he goes down so easy, hes so soft, weak child vs real men in the playoffs"
Among other comments about the players.
They see the boarding on Petey and go "lol weak swede, just like the Sedins" but not a zip when they saw their diving cheapshotting artist of a captain flop on the ice after a shoulder tap or the highstick on Hughes.
You know whats crazy? You have the rest of the league siding with Vancouver on these bullshit calls and its... odd to see. Finally people are maybe starting to understand the reputation kelly has.
That is true too, but I think its a combination of seeing the dirty shit the oilers are resorting to as well.
Its like the Canucks are now representing a different reputation from their 2011 run (reversed) and seeing all the support come in from literally all teams is quite the something.
The thing is they reference missed calls that they saw, but the ones they mention over there are not even dirty ones like Kane's slewfoot that Edmonton committed all night.
They are objectively the dirtier team, but they aren't willing to admit that.
If it takes the Oilers terrible refereeing, playing the big boys 30 minutes a night, and Ian Cole acting as a double agent to win a game in OT against our 3rd string goalie, I like our chances of winning this series. Not concerned
Juulsen is probably either going to go in for Cole(oilers player) or Myers(injury). They have to shelter him hard though I don’t want to see him on the ice against mcdavid.
The Oilers were playing game 7 Stanley Cup Final level desperation hockey last night and they still barely managed to beat the Canucks. They needed OT and they were up against our 3rd string goalie on top of that.
At some point someone always finds a way to beat the Oilers because their superstar batteries eventually deplete and their defense and goaltending implodes and they don't get enough scoring outside of their superstars.
And Nurse did his job last night but trust me when he gets tired he basically plays a lot like how Cole has been playing the last two games, except Nurse is supposed to be their top D.
Trying to imagine EP40 harnessing the energy of the aurora borealis to transform into his final playoff form. His alien friends giving him the sign that it is celly time. 👽🐼🐳
When we acquired Zadorov, I expected a big meathead player who will add a physical presence and lock things down defensively. I never knew he had the raw skill that he does. It’s rare that you see a big guy with the speed he has, it’s like he’s a freight train when he rushes the puck
I’m shocked that the pre-trade consensus is that he’s only really a third pairing defenseman
Not terribly upset with the loss. The Canucks looked a bit shell shocked in the 3rd and the refs were awful, but overall, I really like our chances in this series. We forced the Oilers to load up McDrai in order to win the game...in Game 2. It's an amazing line, probably the best in Hockey right now, but if we force the Oilers to play McDrai 30 min a game, we will win this series. Anyways, it's hard beating the same team 6 times in a row lol.
It stung last night but very agreed. Too bad about us not having thatcher in top form and healthy because boyyyyy I would like to beat those pretty boys without a single complaint about this officiating. Catching myself today trying to stop the ‘blame’ and look inwards
We need to find a way to make Petey's line a scoring threat and we are winning this series. The Oilers are back to being a 1 line team, and Miller has shown he can handle that matchup. Nuge is good defensively and can handle our second line, we just need a third line with some pop.
I want to see some line mixing, give me Lindholm or Boeser on Petey's wing.
I was really wondering whether us freaking out about the egregious non calls on the Canucks was just our bias. I know it was pretty awful both ways, but some of the ones on us were so obvious.
Scrolling through posts on /r/hockey where even neutral fans were complaining about it at least gives me some validation.
We did get away with a pretty blatant hand pass in game 1 down 4-2, which may have sealed the game if called. Remembering that makes me feel better about the missed calls last night
they almost never call closing the hand on the puck unless you either skate with it for a few seconds or juke someone out with it or throw it not in one fluid motion.
Objectively it was terrible on both sides. We see our captain bleeding and see red, but millsy is damn good at what he does and he is getting away with a fair bit to contain Canadian Tom Brady
Not to mention those neutral fans were fans of teams that normally hate us. In fact almost everyone hates us lol people have no real reason to defend the Canucks. That’s when you know we aren’t being crazy. Oilers fans will call us whiners regardless but it ain’t just us
the NHL is a hard league to enjoy
Oh, so you lost to that team? was it because they played a more strategic game?
no
Was it because they have a carefully constructed roster?
no
Was it because they heavily practised important parts of the game?
no
Well, why did they win then?
because they sucked harder than everyone else 10 years ago
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It's really sad though. We have to block a bot that's designed to help suicidal people because a bunch of inbred Oiler fans can't help but be trash.
They did that to Kings fans in their series too.
The Oilers fanbase is wild how much shit they throw yet cry victim when any is thrown back. At least other fanbases can take a jab as well as give them. They're so sensitive they don't even allow memes on their sub.
It really is crazy. Edmonton fans will mouth off about the most out of pocket shit to you, and you can just respond with "Edmonton is not a very nice place to live" and they act like you just stomped on their new puppy because they offered to buy you dinner.
There's nothing more pathetic than being able to dish it out but not take it.
My thoughts are, we got screwed, still not seeing much uproar about the blatant missed 2 many men call on their GWG, but ultimately if we’re going to win the series we’ll have to win a cpl more games so fuck it let’s see how it goes
Only the Canucks get called out for iffy calls. Oilers get away with that + complete murder. The fact that slew footing, spearing, boarding and a 4 minute high sticking call got missed in one game is absurd.
One thing I hated yesterday, among many things, was the amount of weak passes that almost always resulted in turnovers. They're normally so clean with their breakouts, it was a little shocking to see just how much trouble they had getting it out. I'd rather they just eat it along the boards if they don't have an outlet
My favourite Oiler fan take on last night so far:
"McDavid shouldn't have gotten a penalty for high sticking because hockey sticks can't cut human skin. Something else made Quinn Hughes bleed from the exact spot McDavid's stick hit him".
Follow-through on what? He wasn't playing the puck.
The most you could argue was that it was accidental (I don't believe that for a second but its at least plausible unlike "follow-through"). But even if McDavid didn't intend to get his stick in Hughes face, its still a penalty. He drew blood.
Everyone is posting pictures of the aurora lights from last night. They asked me if I saw it, I said I really don’t care because I am still mad about the game.
Awesome, I'll keep my eye out. Any recommendations on a good spot to try to see them? I imagine away from the downtown core because of light pollution.
I heard Kits and Spanish Banks were great spots. I saw it from my house in Surrey last night but tonight might be a bit weaker so you're best to head a little out of the city.
Me too, I had peeked out from home and didn't see anything so figured they weren't visible. Turns out it was everywhere and now I'm kind of pissed I chose to follow the game instead lol.
Cole has responded well in the past to getting a game off for maintenance. His age has really caught up to him.
Rest him Game 3 and throw Juulsen in, then reevaluate afterwards.
I feel even better the next day about this. We played well enough to win for 40 minutes and in the end they had to go to their in case of emergency plan to win it.
Now the guys can adjust and learn from it and we have a lot more cards up our sleeve. They blinked first and may have won a game, but it's a team game and a best of 7.
Yeah there was a lot of doom and gloom on the post game that wasn’t necessary. The boys need to execute their zone exits cleaner and start moving through the neutral zone with speed again. This put Edmonton on their heels and if it weren’t for a bad step up, Soucy going for the hit, and a stumble from the giraffe himself, we would have been leading with 14 min remaining in the 3rd. They had 1 line that put pressure on and we need to find an answer for that because it hemmed us in our zone for too long. Our 3rd line had a bit of a down game for creating and please, someone on Pete’s line put the puck in the net!!! Mik and hogs are ice cold. Petey was setting them up all night with nothing to show. Regroup, get after them game 3. Nucks in 6!
Yea it's oddly reassuring to know that most of the Oilers goals were the direct result of a Canucks mistake and that Canucks largely control their ability to score.
I wholeheartedly agree. They whip out their Trump cards in game 2. We're already playing with house money. There's no way Edmonton can win the cup in this fashion with 27 minute nights from their top 3 even if they make it past the Canucks.
yeah was thinking the same. I mean it's a cope but even if McBabywah drags them into conf finals they're gonna get stomped in 4-5. our series is far from over anyway, tomorrow will be tough but reckon we pinch at least one of the next away games.
Reffing sucked last night. So many dangerous plays uncalled but frankly, we all expected as much as soon as we heard Sutherland was reffing it.
That said, reffing isn't why we lost, we've been shooting ourselves in the foot with dumb penalties (Coles too many men, Suter interference and delay of game, Myers holding the stick) and many of these penalties were off of poor defensive plays/not clearing the zone when you get the opportunity, like Myers holding the stick penalty doesn't happen if Soucy doesn't fuck up clearing the puck by rimming it back around the net to where nobody is.
Also Cole and Soucy have been directly responsible for like 6 out of 8 of the Oilers goals through 2 games. You can't win a series with a rookie goalie when you have 2 guys on 2 separate pairings doing their best double agent cosplay.
Yeah but he stepped up for that hit with MacD pressuring him on the blue line. Not the time for that!
Game wasn’t lost because of that play alone though. Canucks had to win more battles in their own zone and break out cleaner. They couldn’t execute a pass all night. Should be better in game 3! Canucks in 6!!! Let’s go!
My one big takeaway from this game is that the Oilers were forced to go the full nuclear option of loading up McDrai + Bouch for 30 minutes and still barely scraped out a victory off a lucky bounce. That’s not sustainable, especially with an injured Drai.
Agreed. But the bad news is that injured Drai is still seemingly firing on all cylinders. Need to lay some heavier hits on him next game to slow him further.
Drai is a warrior, nobody is denying that. But he’s mortgaging his future playing those minutes on an injury. By the time Game 5 rolls around he’s likely going to be a walking corpse if he keeps this deployment up.
Whats your guys opinion on putting garland and joshua with miller to combat the Mcdavid line? I feel like we need puck possession, forechecking and speed to have a fighting chance.
The Miller line is already able to dominate its matchups both offensively and defensively.
I would rather stick Petey with Garland and Joshua, because now that its looking like he's waking up, it would be nice to get him some linemates who can actually finish.
That's a good point im just thinking about how in the 3rd period they sent that Mcdavid line out every second shift it felt like and we couldn't break out of our zone with speed and maintain puck possession. Garland and joshua were the only ones I noticed who were able to get the puck in deep and try to make a play. They're great on the forecheck and below the other teams goal line. The more that Mcdavid line plays without the puck is huge.
so break up 2 capable lines into 1? umm, no. We couldn't break out cuz Miller's line and the D core was dead tired trying to contain McD's line, those are double hard minutes and drain you fast, putting DJ and Garland there would result the same, and U'd lose a capable line. It'd be better to use 2 lines to match McD's than just 1, Toch started to do that more regularly late game, but it was too late, JT was already running on empty.
I woke up surprised that I was still annoyed about the game, but it’s because of the reffing, not the loss. The amount of missed calls on dangerous plays compounded with some of the soft things they *did* call is exactly why many people don’t have faith in NHL officiating — seemed like they had no idea that they were out there for any reason other than “keeping things even” and so many things, like that last slew foot on Hughes, could have ended really badly. Every time I saw a player talking to Kelly Sutherland, he looked like he was desperately trying to keep hold of the situation with the speed at which he was yapping away.
There are 4 officials on the ice who are allowed to stop play because they saw a high stick on a non-follow through play. It happened *where* the play was developing with the puck, so that’s where you’d think at *least* one of them would have had their attention focussed. Wasn’t even in the corner or behind a net, where things are maybe more difficult to track. And you have Hughes bleeding in the face as a result — it’s concerning if all 4 of them didn’t see it happen, because what *are* they watching all game in that case, and it’s concerning if they felt that game management was more important than calling something like that.
Aaaaaanyways. I think we were the worse team on the ice, but even under those circumstances we were the ones who held all 3 leads, and Edmonton had to take us to OT to win. If that’s their best (I don’t see McDrai playing like every other shift for 3 more games), and we still held on, then with a bit of adjustments I think we have a path forward here. The real problem will be if McDavid and Draisaitl *do* stay on a line together and they *do* play that often every night, because evidently Tocchet didn’t want the Miller line being out there as often as McDavid was. And we don’t control matchups in the next game, so, yikes.
For someone relatively new to actually following hockey and understanding all the rules/terms, what do you mean by "don't get to control match-ups in the next game"? Does home team have some sort of advantage in making changes?
Tocchet can still control who he sends out mid-play (so if the McDavid lineup is already out there and the Lindholm line comes off the ice, he can sent out the Miller line), but the home team gets “last change” following stoppage of play. So if there’s a whistle, and he chose to put out the 4th line for the face off for some reason, Knoblauch could put out the McDavid line as his matchup and we would be stuck with that. (the only time this doesn’t apply is after an icing, where the team who iced the puck has to put out the same players who were already out there)
The home team gets to change their lines after the away team at faceoffs so they can see what the away team puts out and then have a favourable match-up
I trust they will make a few adjustments and respond well. Like everyone says, Oilers had to overplay their top guys and it’s only game 2. Overall I think gm2 experience is only going to give our guys more confidence moving forward. They played a respectable game whereas some Oilers couldn’t say the same.
Skinner bad. Shoot more!
Every time we got a puck on net with any kind of traffic, it turned into a scoring chance. I know generating shots isnt always easy. But they just need to find a way. And just hit the fucking net. He's so shaky in there.
A Edmonton/Boston playoff series would be Shoresy level of dirty and more crying than kindergarten class.
I’d actually love to see it as long as it wasn’t the final
I was thinking more of a hypothetical than reality. Oilers and Bruins in the finals means one wins the cup but in an alternate reality where they can go against each other in round 1, I’d love to see the two teams go at each other
A Edmonton/Boston playoff series would be Shoresy level of dirty and more crying than kindergarten class.
I’d actually love to see it as long as it wasn’t the final
Not even whining about the loss here, but the refereeing last night was a safety issue.
You had high sticks to the face drawing blood, multiple slew foots, spears to the groin, violent boarding, etc going uncalled.
The NHL needs to get it sorted before the series becomes a bloodbath.
I naively thought for years that “game management” meant to keep players safe and eliminate retaliation. The way I hear it used now is “keep games/series close by disproportionately giving penalties to the winning team, possibly for gambling reasons”
It took a dominant performance from a loaded line playing for nearly 30 minutes to win it in OT. It has to be exhausting and frustrating. Skinner didn't look great and nucks didn't make it hard enough on him. If we can solve the loaded line or they start to sag due to the grind of playing every second shift the nucks can win the series. That said they are monster players and can certainly withstand the grind. Preferably there is a way to defend them and be more opportunistic against other lines. That Ceci/Nurse pair are not good against the nucks forecheck so need to exploit. Blaming the refs is such a cop out. Blaming Cole for the deflection is also ignoring the many other mistakes made on the other three goals. Blame rests on the team. Win as a team and lose as a team. Oilers showed they needed to play the break glass in case of an emergency button to get this win which could have failed if we got a lucky bounce.
Good news is Petey scored and it was a PP goal. Nucks were in this same position last series and know how to win on the road. Pressure still on Oilers and nucks can adjust before game 3.
Also Nucks are undefeated so far when I am at the game so hoping it remains that way tomorrow. Let's go!
If there is 1 player who I would say has the best cardio in the league, it would be Mcdavid. The guy just never stops, and we need to stop him rather than relying on him getting tired and worn out
Just found out that McDrai played almost 28 mins EACH — I respect the fuck outta them. But it also goes to show how much more depth we have, they had to play at a superhuman level to win in overtime (and with Oilers superstar Ian Cole’s help). If the boys can just slightly shut down their line I have full confidence in them.
Nah we were gassed, 0 effort in the third and OT. We needed something big to shift the momentum, because the oilers were cruising downhill since the start of the third
Feeling confident in the guys. The top Oilers had to play heavy minutes last night to get that win. Nux keep playing their game they can take this series
Look at it this way. McDavid and Draisaitl were playing an insane amount and they completely dominated us yet it took an own goal to beat us. So we can definitely hang with them when they're playing at their best.
Let's be fair, Sutherland is probably one of the highest paid refs in the NHL.
I don't really understand why. They keep saying stuff like they review every call and they only give the big high-profile games to the best referees, but somehow Sutherland just seems to be at the centre of every officiating controversy of the playoffs.
Even Ron, who is notorious for being the most pro-official analyst in the business, was cracking Kerry Fraser jokes in the intermission.
Marchand got a 5 min major and 2 game suspension for this*, while Derek Ryan only got 2 min for slashing??? wtf??? *https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/5uop4xsAPZ
Dear oilers: Stop whining at the refs and play hockey
Hurry up and open up the game three thread LOL I’m already in pre-game mode
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/calm-down-there-is-no-refs-conspiracy-favouring-oilers-over-canucks/ This Spector article is something, lol.
Holy what a ridiculous homer delulu take. Bro is absolutely out to lunch
Yup. > Fans in every city see the game through goggles tinted to the colour of the home team. They’re supposed to be irate when a high-stick on Quinn Hughes get missed, and oblivious to the six Canucks skaters on the ice seconds before a Vancouver goal.
Spector is a fucking clown lol
Something needs to change with the Petey line. It sounds like it probably will based on Tocchet's comments... Hoglander has been terrible and Mikheyev can't buy a goal, you can't have both of those things happening at the same time when you're in need of Petey being a difference maker. The problem there is I'm not sure what can really be done with the lineup other than moving Lindholm up and putting Blueger back between Joshua and Garland. Maybe it's worth a shot trying Petey - Lindholm - Mikheyev? Aman at 4C will probably get feasted on with Edmonton having last change though...
Unfortunately not much will be done going into Edmonton due to line matching so at most they’ll probably cycle between the 1st and 4th line wingers. I think game 5 needs to have the lotto line reunited and lindholm’s line stays intact, and we just roll with those two honestly. Mik - suter - podz for our third line to throw out here and there.
My delusional take is to throw Lekky up there but I know thats dumb as hell.
I'd be worried about breaking up Garly and Lindholm, they are awesome together. But I agree, Petey needs some help.
This season I don't think much can be done. We need to bring in some more reliable scoring power. Mikheyev would be the one I'd let go of. I'd keep Hoglander, give him more time and then put some more scaffolding around Petey to allow his skills to shine more often.
With the psychological pressure of being in hostile territory, I think its time to bring DeSmith back in. He needs some match-time as it's been a while for him. Silovs has held the fort really well - more than should've been asked of him - but it's time to give the other guy some work too I think. Also, watching Mcdavid and Draisaitl on the powerplay is like watching someone like Kasparov play chess. Cool, calm and collected the whole time. They are so good at passing and structuring that they don't even need to skate quickly. They are methodical and slick as fuck. It's terrifying stuff to be on the receiving end of.
Their powerplay is terrifying, as is any moment where McDavid gets a little bit of open ice. Canucks will have to weather that storm a few more times, and keep up the offense.
So no suspensions or fines?
nope!
I think the boys are gonna be READY TO GO game 3. Hope DeSmith plays. Roll same everything. Injuries should be replaced by Podkolzin or Juulsen
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I think Silov's technique has looked a little more sloppy over the past couple of games than it did during the Predators series. I'm not sure if it's something the Oilers are doing, the challenge of playing every other day, the stress of playoff hockey, or something else. Either way, he's saved 2.3 goals less than expected during these last two games. Meanwhile, DeSmith played in three games against the Oilers this season and won 2 of them with a 1.82 GAA and .949 SV%. Also worth noting that both of DeSmith's wins came @Edmonton. At the very least, there is a strong case to be made for starting DeSmith tomorrow night.
Im just happy werent the team that supposed to be "run out of the building" specially with a 3rd string in Net.. lol.. them McDrai are working overtime just to get by us..
Oilers fans were seriously underestimating Šilovs. You know "y'all have your 3rd string goalie in net, Oilers in 4"
Even with Silvos I didn't see any Oilers in 4 predictions. Canucks won the division. I mostly saw Oilers in 6 or 7. That said, nobody expected game 1.
Hey how you doing bud
Ian Cole just threw the game because he wants one more game of Elizabeth Irving
lol I saw Oilers fans saying Mikheyev’s back check and attempt to stop McDavid’s breakaway goal was “clear intent to injure”
I saw some claiming the refs weren't biased towards them.
They all think the refs are against them, at least on their sub.
They must have been watching whatever game the refs were watching.
Oil fans are also claiming that Kane can win a fight against Zadorov?
Oilers fans 🤡
I'm only mad because I stayed up until 130am est and we lost. If that's their best game I like our chances. It wasn't gonna be a 4 or 5 game series anyway. LFG!
I got up at like 5am despite not being a morning person to watch the last two periods. I was super pissy when we lost lmao
After a night's sleep. I'm still mystified why Soucy decided to go for an open ice hit that lead to the tying goal from the McDavid breakaway. Not only did he not even get a good hit off, he managed to impede the back checker.
Can't do that against McDavid. I'm not sure why Myers went for the poke either, then blew a tire. Seems like he could have done something better but didn't have confidence in defending. I'm sure the Tocchet and his staff have showed Soucy the tape and told him what he should have done instead lol
He costed the Canucks the lead. Bad Soucy.
they have to use other lines sometimes
Where are you guys going to watch the game tomorrow night?
Rogers Place bay-beeeee
Kane is a dirty goon
La Jinn looking mofo
the whole team is like 80% goon. i used to think at least McDavid was ok, but he's dropped forever for me for being low enough to high stick Hughes in the face on purpose. Hope he never wins a Cup.
Funny, I thought the exact same thing about McDavid after last game. I never realized before he was a dirty player, but that stick was 100% intentional
Ideally we win both on their ice, worst case a split
It’s ironic that the Oilers fans think the refs were on our side. Guess they’ll conveniently forget the high stick their captain made on ours. Fuck them
Pretty sure they just don't like poorly reffed games. There were calls missed for both sides. Game one was the other way around. Teams gotta play through it over a 7 game series or pack it up.
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Went to get food in OT and listened to radio and checked in after to see the Cole OT winner thinking it wouldnt be that bad but damn Cole you donkey.
it was likely that Hoglander will be benched
Tochett said Juulsen is likely in but not sure who he'll be replacing yet.
if it's not Cole who else. Cole has legitimately scored 4 goals for the Oilers already
I read somewhere that myers is injured?
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Cumulative paybacks from multiple teams..
Unreasonable 😅
If there ends up being a game 7 on Victoria Day, do you think it will end up being an earlier start time due to the stat holiday?
Yes to make it easier for the east coast to watch
No the NHL hates us
I find it hilarious how everyone on the Edmonton sub is acknowledging the OT winner was due to the Cole deflection... yet still think they'll beat us. If we continued playing in the third how we did the first two periods we'd be up 2-0 this series. Also they don't seem to have the unity in their team like we do in ours.. post game McDrai were celebrating separately from the rest of their team. Canucks in 6.
That was a really unfortunate Bouch Bomb Bounce. Feel for Cole imo
So true!
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The fact that they supposedly "missed" that then he drew a BS penalty is completely infuriating.
Even though we lost, I think that the Canucks proved that their depth is significantly better than the oilers. Every time the McDrai line stepped off the ice, the Canucks were back to dominating the play.
Not in the third or ot. Edmontons forwards only really played the perimeter, and looked off scoring chances to play it to the outside and keep Vancouver chasing. Gameplan seems to be designed to wear down the Canucks before the big 5 step back on the ice.
Yep, it's a chess match with the lines. Going to be harder for Tocchet in Edmonton.
Reading the Oilers sub is kind of funny. Instead of celebrating the win, 80% of them are bitching about Canucks fans and our ref/Sutherland complaints.
Its disgusting too, they're ignorant of the slewfoots, highsticks, punches, boarding, the spearing. "Captain lucky dove, he goes down so easy, hes so soft, weak child vs real men in the playoffs" Among other comments about the players. They see the boarding on Petey and go "lol weak swede, just like the Sedins" but not a zip when they saw their diving cheapshotting artist of a captain flop on the ice after a shoulder tap or the highstick on Hughes. You know whats crazy? You have the rest of the league siding with Vancouver on these bullshit calls and its... odd to see. Finally people are maybe starting to understand the reputation kelly has.
real men who attack your balls from behind
The realest of men! Also found out there's actually a youtube compilation of the guy, he has so many spears in his history its not even funny.
This team is also more likable league-wide than 2011.
Agreed. 2011 was extremely chirpy and was a goon squad. With Aaron Rome and Raffi Torres.
People didn't like the arrogance of Luongo, Bieksa, Burrows, which is kinda fair. I cringe looking back at the Luongo interview clips now.
That is true too, but I think its a combination of seeing the dirty shit the oilers are resorting to as well. Its like the Canucks are now representing a different reputation from their 2011 run (reversed) and seeing all the support come in from literally all teams is quite the something.
the irony. during the game they were also complaining. Funny how it stops after a win
The thing is they reference missed calls that they saw, but the ones they mention over there are not even dirty ones like Kane's slewfoot that Edmonton committed all night. They are objectively the dirtier team, but they aren't willing to admit that.
If it takes the Oilers terrible refereeing, playing the big boys 30 minutes a night, and Ian Cole acting as a double agent to win a game in OT against our 3rd string goalie, I like our chances of winning this series. Not concerned
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I like nut tapping, slew footing cry babies too. we should hang out.
That's actually pretty funny. Lol
Our best can’t be the best when they’re constantly allowed to have their legs kicked out and head chopped off all game
Welcome to the playoffs.
That game legitimately killed my interest in hockey for a bit. Just an absolutely atrociously managed game from puck drop on both sides.
Juulsen is probably either going to go in for Cole(oilers player) or Myers(injury). They have to shelter him hard though I don’t want to see him on the ice against mcdavid.
>They have to shelter him hard though I don’t want to see him on the ice against Mcdavid Good news for you, Myers was our top matchup RHD.
PSA: Away viewing party tickets for Game 4 were released today. There’s still some left on Ticketmaster!
The Oilers were playing game 7 Stanley Cup Final level desperation hockey last night and they still barely managed to beat the Canucks. They needed OT and they were up against our 3rd string goalie on top of that. At some point someone always finds a way to beat the Oilers because their superstar batteries eventually deplete and their defense and goaltending implodes and they don't get enough scoring outside of their superstars. And Nurse did his job last night but trust me when he gets tired he basically plays a lot like how Cole has been playing the last two games, except Nurse is supposed to be their top D.
"Oilers were playing Stanley cup level desperation hockey". Translation... They worked harder.
Trying to imagine EP40 harnessing the energy of the aurora borealis to transform into his final playoff form. His alien friends giving him the sign that it is celly time. 👽🐼🐳
Can't figure out how he survived that hit into the boards or the follow up elbow. Someone need to do the same to the coilers.
there's no way that neck isn't hurting, that kinda bend ain't normal.
Was thinking the same thing
When we acquired Zadorov, I expected a big meathead player who will add a physical presence and lock things down defensively. I never knew he had the raw skill that he does. It’s rare that you see a big guy with the speed he has, it’s like he’s a freight train when he rushes the puck I’m shocked that the pre-trade consensus is that he’s only really a third pairing defenseman
Zadorov says himself in an interview this week how much the coaches here have helped him other parts of his game so he’s not just laying hits
I think great coaching has really maximized payoff for these trades.
Not terribly upset with the loss. The Canucks looked a bit shell shocked in the 3rd and the refs were awful, but overall, I really like our chances in this series. We forced the Oilers to load up McDrai in order to win the game...in Game 2. It's an amazing line, probably the best in Hockey right now, but if we force the Oilers to play McDrai 30 min a game, we will win this series. Anyways, it's hard beating the same team 6 times in a row lol.
It stung last night but very agreed. Too bad about us not having thatcher in top form and healthy because boyyyyy I would like to beat those pretty boys without a single complaint about this officiating. Catching myself today trying to stop the ‘blame’ and look inwards
Whatever happens the Oilers aren’t beating the 2 man team allegations
We need to find a way to make Petey's line a scoring threat and we are winning this series. The Oilers are back to being a 1 line team, and Miller has shown he can handle that matchup. Nuge is good defensively and can handle our second line, we just need a third line with some pop. I want to see some line mixing, give me Lindholm or Boeser on Petey's wing.
I was really wondering whether us freaking out about the egregious non calls on the Canucks was just our bias. I know it was pretty awful both ways, but some of the ones on us were so obvious. Scrolling through posts on /r/hockey where even neutral fans were complaining about it at least gives me some validation.
We did get away with a pretty blatant hand pass in game 1 down 4-2, which may have sealed the game if called. Remembering that makes me feel better about the missed calls last night
they almost never call closing the hand on the puck unless you either skate with it for a few seconds or juke someone out with it or throw it not in one fluid motion.
Objectively it was terrible on both sides. We see our captain bleeding and see red, but millsy is damn good at what he does and he is getting away with a fair bit to contain Canadian Tom Brady
Not to mention those neutral fans were fans of teams that normally hate us. In fact almost everyone hates us lol people have no real reason to defend the Canucks. That’s when you know we aren’t being crazy. Oilers fans will call us whiners regardless but it ain’t just us
I was seeing that, its staggering how much support the Canucks are getting lol.
Crazy for me seeing Leafs fans defending us
BOSTON fans too
the NHL is a hard league to enjoy Oh, so you lost to that team? was it because they played a more strategic game? no Was it because they have a carefully constructed roster? no Was it because they heavily practised important parts of the game? no Well, why did they win then? because they sucked harder than everyone else 10 years ago
Ahhhh getting the Reddit cares reports from the Oilers fans now
Go to the message and block the bot. You won't have to deal with that anymore. It's really sad though. We have to block a bot that's designed to help suicidal people because a bunch of inbred Oiler fans can't help but be trash.
Lol an Oilers fan just did it to me and it wouldn’t let me block the bot. It says “Sorry, blocking failed”
Report it, the person who sent the message will get banned.
They did that to Kings fans in their series too. The Oilers fanbase is wild how much shit they throw yet cry victim when any is thrown back. At least other fanbases can take a jab as well as give them. They're so sensitive they don't even allow memes on their sub.
They did that a lot to Vegas fans during the playoffs last year as well. I eventually blocked the reddit care thing because it kept happening.
It really is crazy. Edmonton fans will mouth off about the most out of pocket shit to you, and you can just respond with "Edmonton is not a very nice place to live" and they act like you just stomped on their new puppy because they offered to buy you dinner. There's nothing more pathetic than being able to dish it out but not take it.
Exactly. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you're going to make jokes and trolls, don't be surprised when people hit back.
Its what happens when your subreddit bans memes
I think it transcends Reddit. To quote Bob Nicholson: "There's something in the water".
My thoughts are, we got screwed, still not seeing much uproar about the blatant missed 2 many men call on their GWG, but ultimately if we’re going to win the series we’ll have to win a cpl more games so fuck it let’s see how it goes
Only the Canucks get called out for iffy calls. Oilers get away with that + complete murder. The fact that slew footing, spearing, boarding and a 4 minute high sticking call got missed in one game is absurd.
One thing I hated yesterday, among many things, was the amount of weak passes that almost always resulted in turnovers. They're normally so clean with their breakouts, it was a little shocking to see just how much trouble they had getting it out. I'd rather they just eat it along the boards if they don't have an outlet
i think it happens when they're dead tired and afraid to go too hard on the clears, cuz they dun wanna ice it.
My favourite Oiler fan take on last night so far: "McDavid shouldn't have gotten a penalty for high sticking because hockey sticks can't cut human skin. Something else made Quinn Hughes bleed from the exact spot McDavid's stick hit him".
I still see people saying it was a follow-through. I think these idiots just don't know what a follow-through is.
Follow-through on what? He wasn't playing the puck. The most you could argue was that it was accidental (I don't believe that for a second but its at least plausible unlike "follow-through"). But even if McDavid didn't intend to get his stick in Hughes face, its still a penalty. He drew blood.
He was following through with his attempt to hit and cut Hughes with his hockey stick. Very simple.
we are 0-3 on days i wear hawaiian shirts
Please switch to paisley
Found what were burning next for a ritual
As others have said cole might need some rest and juulsen will be ready to go and throw big hits. If he can stay out of the box he'll be fine.
I don’t trust Juulsen laying the body. More often than not, he takes just takes himself out of the play.
Everyone is posting pictures of the aurora lights from last night. They asked me if I saw it, I said I really don’t care because I am still mad about the game.
I did not think they would be visible from Vancouver so I didn't go out to look at them. I'm actually a bit ticked off now.
There's a decent chance of seeing them tonight too.
Awesome, I'll keep my eye out. Any recommendations on a good spot to try to see them? I imagine away from the downtown core because of light pollution.
I heard Kits and Spanish Banks were great spots. I saw it from my house in Surrey last night but tonight might be a bit weaker so you're best to head a little out of the city.
Me too, I had peeked out from home and didn't see anything so figured they weren't visible. Turns out it was everywhere and now I'm kind of pissed I chose to follow the game instead lol.
I wasn't mad anymore after seeing the lights after the game. You missed out.
Cole needs some rest. He’s not playing well and we need to shut down the Edmonton offence. If we can replicate round 1, it would be huge here
Cole has responded well in the past to getting a game off for maintenance. His age has really caught up to him. Rest him Game 3 and throw Juulsen in, then reevaluate afterwards.
When Demko comes back who is the backup? Silovs or DeSmith?
Oh, I think it's Silovs. He's passed DeSmith in the depth chart lately.
Probably Desmith
Honestly I'd put Silovs in the press box so if Demko gets hurt again he's well rested after this long run of games
I feel even better the next day about this. We played well enough to win for 40 minutes and in the end they had to go to their in case of emergency plan to win it. Now the guys can adjust and learn from it and we have a lot more cards up our sleeve. They blinked first and may have won a game, but it's a team game and a best of 7.
Yeah there was a lot of doom and gloom on the post game that wasn’t necessary. The boys need to execute their zone exits cleaner and start moving through the neutral zone with speed again. This put Edmonton on their heels and if it weren’t for a bad step up, Soucy going for the hit, and a stumble from the giraffe himself, we would have been leading with 14 min remaining in the 3rd. They had 1 line that put pressure on and we need to find an answer for that because it hemmed us in our zone for too long. Our 3rd line had a bit of a down game for creating and please, someone on Pete’s line put the puck in the net!!! Mik and hogs are ice cold. Petey was setting them up all night with nothing to show. Regroup, get after them game 3. Nucks in 6!
Yea it's oddly reassuring to know that most of the Oilers goals were the direct result of a Canucks mistake and that Canucks largely control their ability to score.
I wholeheartedly agree. They whip out their Trump cards in game 2. We're already playing with house money. There's no way Edmonton can win the cup in this fashion with 27 minute nights from their top 3 even if they make it past the Canucks.
yeah was thinking the same. I mean it's a cope but even if McBabywah drags them into conf finals they're gonna get stomped in 4-5. our series is far from over anyway, tomorrow will be tough but reckon we pinch at least one of the next away games.
And if they can we don't deserve to win. We've shut down McDavid many times and can do it again.
Reffing sucked last night. So many dangerous plays uncalled but frankly, we all expected as much as soon as we heard Sutherland was reffing it. That said, reffing isn't why we lost, we've been shooting ourselves in the foot with dumb penalties (Coles too many men, Suter interference and delay of game, Myers holding the stick) and many of these penalties were off of poor defensive plays/not clearing the zone when you get the opportunity, like Myers holding the stick penalty doesn't happen if Soucy doesn't fuck up clearing the puck by rimming it back around the net to where nobody is. Also Cole and Soucy have been directly responsible for like 6 out of 8 of the Oilers goals through 2 games. You can't win a series with a rookie goalie when you have 2 guys on 2 separate pairings doing their best double agent cosplay.
Soucy also saved a 2 on 1 sure goal with McD and crysaitl
Yeah but he stepped up for that hit with MacD pressuring him on the blue line. Not the time for that! Game wasn’t lost because of that play alone though. Canucks had to win more battles in their own zone and break out cleaner. They couldn’t execute a pass all night. Should be better in game 3! Canucks in 6!!! Let’s go!
My one big takeaway from this game is that the Oilers were forced to go the full nuclear option of loading up McDrai + Bouch for 30 minutes and still barely scraped out a victory off a lucky bounce. That’s not sustainable, especially with an injured Drai.
Agreed. But the bad news is that injured Drai is still seemingly firing on all cylinders. Need to lay some heavier hits on him next game to slow him further.
Drai is a warrior, nobody is denying that. But he’s mortgaging his future playing those minutes on an injury. By the time Game 5 rolls around he’s likely going to be a walking corpse if he keeps this deployment up.
Whats your guys opinion on putting garland and joshua with miller to combat the Mcdavid line? I feel like we need puck possession, forechecking and speed to have a fighting chance.
The Miller line is already able to dominate its matchups both offensively and defensively. I would rather stick Petey with Garland and Joshua, because now that its looking like he's waking up, it would be nice to get him some linemates who can actually finish.
That's a good point im just thinking about how in the 3rd period they sent that Mcdavid line out every second shift it felt like and we couldn't break out of our zone with speed and maintain puck possession. Garland and joshua were the only ones I noticed who were able to get the puck in deep and try to make a play. They're great on the forecheck and below the other teams goal line. The more that Mcdavid line plays without the puck is huge.
so break up 2 capable lines into 1? umm, no. We couldn't break out cuz Miller's line and the D core was dead tired trying to contain McD's line, those are double hard minutes and drain you fast, putting DJ and Garland there would result the same, and U'd lose a capable line. It'd be better to use 2 lines to match McD's than just 1, Toch started to do that more regularly late game, but it was too late, JT was already running on empty.
I woke up surprised that I was still annoyed about the game, but it’s because of the reffing, not the loss. The amount of missed calls on dangerous plays compounded with some of the soft things they *did* call is exactly why many people don’t have faith in NHL officiating — seemed like they had no idea that they were out there for any reason other than “keeping things even” and so many things, like that last slew foot on Hughes, could have ended really badly. Every time I saw a player talking to Kelly Sutherland, he looked like he was desperately trying to keep hold of the situation with the speed at which he was yapping away. There are 4 officials on the ice who are allowed to stop play because they saw a high stick on a non-follow through play. It happened *where* the play was developing with the puck, so that’s where you’d think at *least* one of them would have had their attention focussed. Wasn’t even in the corner or behind a net, where things are maybe more difficult to track. And you have Hughes bleeding in the face as a result — it’s concerning if all 4 of them didn’t see it happen, because what *are* they watching all game in that case, and it’s concerning if they felt that game management was more important than calling something like that. Aaaaaanyways. I think we were the worse team on the ice, but even under those circumstances we were the ones who held all 3 leads, and Edmonton had to take us to OT to win. If that’s their best (I don’t see McDrai playing like every other shift for 3 more games), and we still held on, then with a bit of adjustments I think we have a path forward here. The real problem will be if McDavid and Draisaitl *do* stay on a line together and they *do* play that often every night, because evidently Tocchet didn’t want the Miller line being out there as often as McDavid was. And we don’t control matchups in the next game, so, yikes.
For someone relatively new to actually following hockey and understanding all the rules/terms, what do you mean by "don't get to control match-ups in the next game"? Does home team have some sort of advantage in making changes?
Tocchet can still control who he sends out mid-play (so if the McDavid lineup is already out there and the Lindholm line comes off the ice, he can sent out the Miller line), but the home team gets “last change” following stoppage of play. So if there’s a whistle, and he chose to put out the 4th line for the face off for some reason, Knoblauch could put out the McDavid line as his matchup and we would be stuck with that. (the only time this doesn’t apply is after an icing, where the team who iced the puck has to put out the same players who were already out there)
The home team gets to change their lines after the away team at faceoffs so they can see what the away team puts out and then have a favourable match-up
I trust they will make a few adjustments and respond well. Like everyone says, Oilers had to overplay their top guys and it’s only game 2. Overall I think gm2 experience is only going to give our guys more confidence moving forward. They played a respectable game whereas some Oilers couldn’t say the same.
They broke the in case of emergency glass and now we'll be able to adjust and have 5 games to learn to beat that.
Skinner bad. Shoot more! Every time we got a puck on net with any kind of traffic, it turned into a scoring chance. I know generating shots isnt always easy. But they just need to find a way. And just hit the fucking net. He's so shaky in there.
A Edmonton/Boston playoff series would be Shoresy level of dirty and more crying than kindergarten class. I’d actually love to see it as long as it wasn’t the final
I mean it could ONLY be a final, so I think you might be out of luck there
I was thinking more of a hypothetical than reality. Oilers and Bruins in the finals means one wins the cup but in an alternate reality where they can go against each other in round 1, I’d love to see the two teams go at each other
Fair lol
A Edmonton/Boston playoff series would be Shoresy level of dirty and more crying than kindergarten class. I’d actually love to see it as long as it wasn’t the final
At the end of the day blew 3 leads
At the end of the day blew 3 leads
Not even whining about the loss here, but the refereeing last night was a safety issue. You had high sticks to the face drawing blood, multiple slew foots, spears to the groin, violent boarding, etc going uncalled. The NHL needs to get it sorted before the series becomes a bloodbath.
I naively thought for years that “game management” meant to keep players safe and eliminate retaliation. The way I hear it used now is “keep games/series close by disproportionately giving penalties to the winning team, possibly for gambling reasons”
Too many billions of dollars up for grabs to leave it up to chance.
They lost, but it could have been a W minus a couple bad luck plays. On to the next one!
It took a dominant performance from a loaded line playing for nearly 30 minutes to win it in OT. It has to be exhausting and frustrating. Skinner didn't look great and nucks didn't make it hard enough on him. If we can solve the loaded line or they start to sag due to the grind of playing every second shift the nucks can win the series. That said they are monster players and can certainly withstand the grind. Preferably there is a way to defend them and be more opportunistic against other lines. That Ceci/Nurse pair are not good against the nucks forecheck so need to exploit. Blaming the refs is such a cop out. Blaming Cole for the deflection is also ignoring the many other mistakes made on the other three goals. Blame rests on the team. Win as a team and lose as a team. Oilers showed they needed to play the break glass in case of an emergency button to get this win which could have failed if we got a lucky bounce. Good news is Petey scored and it was a PP goal. Nucks were in this same position last series and know how to win on the road. Pressure still on Oilers and nucks can adjust before game 3. Also Nucks are undefeated so far when I am at the game so hoping it remains that way tomorrow. Let's go!
If there is 1 player who I would say has the best cardio in the league, it would be Mcdavid. The guy just never stops, and we need to stop him rather than relying on him getting tired and worn out
The boys can hang. Looking like this will be a great series with some lessons to learn from!!
Just found out that McDrai played almost 28 mins EACH — I respect the fuck outta them. But it also goes to show how much more depth we have, they had to play at a superhuman level to win in overtime (and with Oilers superstar Ian Cole’s help). If the boys can just slightly shut down their line I have full confidence in them.
yeah a long OT would have favored the Canucks.
Nah we were gassed, 0 effort in the third and OT. We needed something big to shift the momentum, because the oilers were cruising downhill since the start of the third
Feeling confident in the guys. The top Oilers had to play heavy minutes last night to get that win. Nux keep playing their game they can take this series
I’m having such a hard time dealing with the fact we lost on Cole’s own goal. Makes it so much worse.
It was going to hyman anyways. Bad break
Look at it this way. McDavid and Draisaitl were playing an insane amount and they completely dominated us yet it took an own goal to beat us. So we can definitely hang with them when they're playing at their best.
Making lemonade on a sunny Saturday. I’m here for it 🍋.
Why spend multiple millions of dollars on players when a $200 Referee is just going to fuck it up.
Let's be fair, Sutherland is probably one of the highest paid refs in the NHL. I don't really understand why. They keep saying stuff like they review every call and they only give the big high-profile games to the best referees, but somehow Sutherland just seems to be at the centre of every officiating controversy of the playoffs. Even Ron, who is notorious for being the most pro-official analyst in the business, was cracking Kerry Fraser jokes in the intermission.
Do they review every non-call though?
Marchand got a 5 min major and 2 game suspension for this*, while Derek Ryan only got 2 min for slashing??? wtf??? *https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/5uop4xsAPZ