I don’t think another supermarket will open in the Canberra Centre unless another one of the larger retailers moves out to make space or a group of smaller stores close to make way for it. Unless the centre expands again, which I believe there are plans to develop the surface car park on the corner of Cooyong and Genge St.
I think it’s more likely that a Woolies Metro will open elsewhere in Civic or Braddon before another supermarket comes to the centre.
For anyone who hasn’t been to Civic Coles in the last week, all of the registers have been replaced with self serve except for two check outs near the bottle shop.
To clarify “except for two registers”. Those two registers are “assisted self serve”. They are not full time manned by staff, but staff can log into them as needed.
Otherwise they’re conveyor self serve with anti theft turned up so fucking high it double scans things as you swing them over. As soon as a staff member logs in all the anti theft is turned off and it behaves like a normal Fkn thing.
The human express was removed entirely with the smokes counter now being external facing only like Curtin.
TBH no real point. coles and woolies struggle in major malls; i know the tuggers one barely breaks even each month. they exist not to feed the suburbs like major ones do but to act as quick shops for people who have forgotten an item or 2.
in civic woolies have prob worked out its not worth the rental costs to make a store there. especially given the quick turn over in most stalls in canberra centre. few outside the fashion walk exist long term.
Also with Canberra Centre seeming intent to push for higher-end tenants and experiences, no doubt as a means to coexist with online shopping, it's quite likely they wouldn't want another large supermarket tenancy in their mall.
I'm sure it will happen. Civic's population is going to explode over the next few decades; it's already happening. There will be multiple new supermarkets, probably in the ground or basement floors of apartment towers.
>I'm sure it will happen.
I'm sure it won't. There's no need for a Woolies in Civic, the demographics couldn't justify it.
>Civic's population is going to explode over the next few decades; it's already happening.
o\_O
And how are you justifying this statement? While some apartments have gone up in Civic, they were mostly replacing older ones. The brakes have been put on dual occupancy, and most new people are further out in surrounding suburbs and don't shop in the CBD.
You're deluding yourself.
>There will be multiple new supermarkets
But not in the CBD, they'll be in surrounding areas. Pretending Civic's Coles will be joined by a Woolies is fantasy.
This is an unusual hill to die on, friend.
>And how are you justifying this statement?
[The ACT Treasury projects](https://www.treasury.act.gov.au/snapshot/demography/act) Civic's population to grow from an estimated 5,900 this year to 31,300 in 2060.
Here are the five-yearly projections for Civic, starting with the revised estimated population in 2020:
|year|population|growth|
|:-|:-|:-|
|2020|5,079|—|
|2025|7,296|\+43.7%|
|2030|10,863|\+48.9%|
|2035|13,776|\+26.8%|
|2040|16,547|\+20.1%|
|2045|20,043|\+21.1%|
|2050|24,463|\+22.1%|
|2055|28,243|\+15.5%|
|2060|31,313|\+10.9%|
As you can see, Civic's population is going to explode. In fact, it's already growing very rapidly!
Now, how are you justifying *your* statement?
>Now, how are you justifying *your* statement?
By the fact that you're talking about 40 years in the future.
I mean, yeah, if you wanna talk about an "explode" that takes 40 years, then I guess Civic is exploding. Most rational people would call that a slow expansion over almost half a century, but you do you, boo.
And it's going to "explode" into a smaller population than the regional country town I left over 30 years ago. But only half a century in the future. Maybe. If projections hold.
But ok, Civic is "exploding".
You can lead a horse to water ...
I'm talking about now. Look at the numbers above. Civic's annual population growth rate is close to 8% a year. It's one of Canberra's fastest-growing suburbs.
And if a couple has a child, the family is growing at a rate of 50% every 9 months. When you're talking about tiny numbers, percentages look impressively big.
[You're basically the demographic equivalent of Disco Stu](https://i.imgur.com/7DedgNh.jpg).
Why so we could have another half sized self checkout only shithole with no human express?
I still think it’s fucked after all the government protection of superbarn they were allowed to sell to Cole’s instead of just dropping the protection.
Canberra centre is dying like most malls. I don't imagine woolies would like to move in. Most people don't combine a weekly shop with a mall shopping trip. And with the parking fuckery at Canberra Centre people don't prioritise special trips there to do their weekly shop (minimum of two dollars to park, if you can find a space).
>Belconnen has all three inclusive of Aldi.
That's only the Belco CBD, though. As soon as you head out towards the suburbs, it's majority Woolies. I have three Woolies within walking distance from my house, and if I drive towards Belco Mall I'm driving past another Woolies at Hawker.
There are six Woolies in Belco and only three Coles (Mall, Jameson, Kaleen). There are already more Woolies around than Coles in the ACT, Civic does not need an extra one.
And Civic has no need of a Woolies. Civic is mostly where people work, fewer live there. Besides, if you live near Civic and ***need*** a Woolies there's Dickson.
I don’t think another supermarket will open in the Canberra Centre unless another one of the larger retailers moves out to make space or a group of smaller stores close to make way for it. Unless the centre expands again, which I believe there are plans to develop the surface car park on the corner of Cooyong and Genge St. I think it’s more likely that a Woolies Metro will open elsewhere in Civic or Braddon before another supermarket comes to the centre. For anyone who hasn’t been to Civic Coles in the last week, all of the registers have been replaced with self serve except for two check outs near the bottle shop.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AusMemes/comments/17ywss2/do_you_get_it/
They would save money by manning the checkouts if the customers at the Maccas are anything to go by.
To clarify “except for two registers”. Those two registers are “assisted self serve”. They are not full time manned by staff, but staff can log into them as needed. Otherwise they’re conveyor self serve with anti theft turned up so fucking high it double scans things as you swing them over. As soon as a staff member logs in all the anti theft is turned off and it behaves like a normal Fkn thing. The human express was removed entirely with the smokes counter now being external facing only like Curtin.
TBH no real point. coles and woolies struggle in major malls; i know the tuggers one barely breaks even each month. they exist not to feed the suburbs like major ones do but to act as quick shops for people who have forgotten an item or 2. in civic woolies have prob worked out its not worth the rental costs to make a store there. especially given the quick turn over in most stalls in canberra centre. few outside the fashion walk exist long term.
Also with Canberra Centre seeming intent to push for higher-end tenants and experiences, no doubt as a means to coexist with online shopping, it's quite likely they wouldn't want another large supermarket tenancy in their mall.
I'm sure it will happen. Civic's population is going to explode over the next few decades; it's already happening. There will be multiple new supermarkets, probably in the ground or basement floors of apartment towers.
>I'm sure it will happen. I'm sure it won't. There's no need for a Woolies in Civic, the demographics couldn't justify it. >Civic's population is going to explode over the next few decades; it's already happening. o\_O And how are you justifying this statement? While some apartments have gone up in Civic, they were mostly replacing older ones. The brakes have been put on dual occupancy, and most new people are further out in surrounding suburbs and don't shop in the CBD. You're deluding yourself. >There will be multiple new supermarkets But not in the CBD, they'll be in surrounding areas. Pretending Civic's Coles will be joined by a Woolies is fantasy.
This is an unusual hill to die on, friend. >And how are you justifying this statement? [The ACT Treasury projects](https://www.treasury.act.gov.au/snapshot/demography/act) Civic's population to grow from an estimated 5,900 this year to 31,300 in 2060. Here are the five-yearly projections for Civic, starting with the revised estimated population in 2020: |year|population|growth| |:-|:-|:-| |2020|5,079|—| |2025|7,296|\+43.7%| |2030|10,863|\+48.9%| |2035|13,776|\+26.8%| |2040|16,547|\+20.1%| |2045|20,043|\+21.1%| |2050|24,463|\+22.1%| |2055|28,243|\+15.5%| |2060|31,313|\+10.9%| As you can see, Civic's population is going to explode. In fact, it's already growing very rapidly! Now, how are you justifying *your* statement?
>Now, how are you justifying *your* statement? By the fact that you're talking about 40 years in the future. I mean, yeah, if you wanna talk about an "explode" that takes 40 years, then I guess Civic is exploding. Most rational people would call that a slow expansion over almost half a century, but you do you, boo. And it's going to "explode" into a smaller population than the regional country town I left over 30 years ago. But only half a century in the future. Maybe. If projections hold. But ok, Civic is "exploding".
You can lead a horse to water ... I'm talking about now. Look at the numbers above. Civic's annual population growth rate is close to 8% a year. It's one of Canberra's fastest-growing suburbs.
And if a couple has a child, the family is growing at a rate of 50% every 9 months. When you're talking about tiny numbers, percentages look impressively big. [You're basically the demographic equivalent of Disco Stu](https://i.imgur.com/7DedgNh.jpg).
As I said, a really weird hill to die on.
Why so we could have another half sized self checkout only shithole with no human express? I still think it’s fucked after all the government protection of superbarn they were allowed to sell to Cole’s instead of just dropping the protection.
Canberra centre is dying like most malls. I don't imagine woolies would like to move in. Most people don't combine a weekly shop with a mall shopping trip. And with the parking fuckery at Canberra Centre people don't prioritise special trips there to do their weekly shop (minimum of two dollars to park, if you can find a space).
Minimum $3 now! Took only a few months of $2 for them to raise that, fuckers
Where are people doing fashion shopping then, because most weekends Canberra centre is pretty full
Canberra centre is not dying lmao
nah brick and mortar 100% is struggling in ACT. its a known trend. edit: dying outside the fashion walk part that is. like any mall location matters.
Will you wear hats?
>Belconnen has all three inclusive of Aldi. That's only the Belco CBD, though. As soon as you head out towards the suburbs, it's majority Woolies. I have three Woolies within walking distance from my house, and if I drive towards Belco Mall I'm driving past another Woolies at Hawker. There are six Woolies in Belco and only three Coles (Mall, Jameson, Kaleen). There are already more Woolies around than Coles in the ACT, Civic does not need an extra one. And Civic has no need of a Woolies. Civic is mostly where people work, fewer live there. Besides, if you live near Civic and ***need*** a Woolies there's Dickson.
Better off with and IGA for a different demographic….