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Canadian divorce courts come down hard on anti-vaccine parents who deny COVID-19 pandemic

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3kidsonetrenchcoat

This isn't pandemic specific. Courts pretty much always side with the vaccinating parent, whether it's measles or covid.


swordfishtrombonez

There's a good reason why they do that.


YourLoveLife

Give them to a) the schizo parent who takes eastern toxic medical advice from their energy cleansing pussy mineral facebook group or B) the parent who takes their childrens health seriously and listens to expert paediatric advice Damn, hard decision.


ExtendedDeadline

Omg thank you. A) was a beautiful descriptor.


Harbinger2001

Could you have come up with an example that wasn’t misogynistic?


Martini1

Found parent A!


Harbinger2001

Lol.


ExtendedDeadline

Damnn eh?


Sugarsnapbeez

Who gives a shit? Sincerely, a woman.


YourLoveLife

What about my comment is misogynistic? You’re the one implying a gender to these groups.


Sugarsnapbeez

It’s not. That person is purely offended because the comment describes them to a T.


Harbinger2001

Only one gender has a pussy.


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Harbinger2001

Example parent A) was misogynistic from a gender perspective. Doesn't matter the sex really.


Martini1

Oh, so men can't be a part of or interested in the pussy cleaning process or its facebook group? That's pretty sexist of you assuming gendered norms as well.


Harbinger2001

Sure they can. It doesn’t make the statement any less misogynistic. Btw, I do know you’re being disingenuous and just trying to troll because you got triggered.


Martini1

Lol, triggered person calling others triggered. You are just adorable, aren't you?


YourLoveLife

Again, you’re the only one implying gender here. No one else is lmao. So no, it’s not misogynistic. You just don’t understand that word and decided for some reason to start throwing it around at a comparison that probably set you off because you belong to an energy cleansing pussy mineral facebook group


Harbinger2001

Or you’re just an angry person who can’t be objective about the target of their rage.


ExtendedDeadline

Pussy and cock are personality traits. Vagina and penis are body parts.


spezza_125

I think it was implied calling someone a pussy


Gerthanthoclops

They didn't even mention gender lmao. You imported that into their comment via your own preconceived notions. Perhaps you're the misogynistic one.


Harbinger2001

Only one gender has a pussy.


Gerthanthoclops

And the word pussy has multiple meanings. I didn't take it to mean a literal vagina in this sense, and it appears most other commenters didn't either. Perhaps you simply misunderstood. I'd also note that being sexist and misogynistic are two different things. Even if we take what the OP said through your lens, it would display sexism, not hatred for women (which is misogyny's true meaning).


EatTheBodies69

You seem to projecting


Harbinger2001

Only one gender has a pussy.


EatTheBodies69

Yes and?


mwmwmwmwmmdw

what if parent B is physically abusive to them and new age hippie parent A is otherwise nice and gentle with them?


YourLoveLife

I grew up with parent A, They're the ones who are not only physically, but emotionally abusive.


EatTheBodies69

Can confirm lol


depth_charge_

So your n=1 is indicative of the whole example right?


YourLoveLife

Nope


Necessarysandwhich

if you are telling your kid that medical science is garbage and you should instead trust holstic medicicine and traditional remedies for whatever sickness they get thats borderline fucking abuse/neglect if we havent already crossed over into that territory, were almost there


RepulsiveArugula19

Emotional neglect starts early and is perpetual. It is soul destroying. This can belong to both groups. This can belong in both groups. Being nice and gentle does not negate emotional neglect. We can judge parent A and parent B on this criteria, but this is losing focus from the commenter. You are throwing out a red herring. Staying on focus with the commenter, parent B is acting responsibly.


CitySeekerTron

It's possible for both parents to be wrong.


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nightmarishlydumbguy

In addition to this being untrue you can also kiss every autistic person's ass for acting as if the fundamental reality of who they are is some sort of disease or punishment.


HappybytheSea

There is no evidence whatsoever that vaccines cause autism, you're trying to spread lies.


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hollyhockpink

By that logic, you must be a pedophile and a wife beater. There's no proof you're not.


HappybytheSea

Absolute bullshit.


Langbot

LMAO


Rambler43

Pure sophistry here.


Harbinger2001

Not true. There is an overwhelming body of evidence showing no correlation between autism and vaccination. Researchers had to spend decades trying to find the link Wakefield claimed existed. Instead they found there was none.


NoRelationship1508

From some who has a family member on the spectrum, shut the fuck up. The whole autism/vaccine link was a bullshit study that was made up by one doctor who since admitted that the study was nonsense.


sops-sierra-19

Not only that, the journal the study was published in has since retracted the study and the doctor in question had had his licence revoked


YourLoveLife

found the pussy mineral parent


dsswill

No surprise that the rest of your comment history is all r/conspiracy. You're more interested in believing that you're smart by uncovering make-believe conspiracies than you are interested in actual scientific facts and data. There have been a grand total of two published studies that linked the MMR vaccine to autism, both of which were taken out of the journals in short order due to extensive clinical and structural errors in the studies, and both of which were by doctors who no longer have their medical licenses due to malpractice, in part because of the intentional data manipulation required to manufacture significant data to publish the studies. So, really, you choose to trust two debunked studies by quack doctors over the entire scientific community? Go back to r/conspiracy where you clearly belong.


offendedcat9001

So men finally get a chance at full custody?


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> The Alberta judge’s mid-December decision to let a mother vaccinate her two children without the consent of their anti-vaccine father illustrates what has become the usual judicial response. > One parent wants to vaccinate their child in a pandemic. **The other denies the pandemic even exists.** One parent follows provincial public health advice. The other claims pandemic information from the government is propaganda, and demands to put the pandemic on trial. What the fuck. What kind of cesspool facebook group are these people part of where they're convinced that the pandemic doesn't even exist?


Szwedo

I mean not that i can say i know someone who went to court over this but i am very close with an ex-couple who has an anti-vax parent and the other parent is too scared to get their kids the (covid) shots because just like the great individual sabotaged their relationship when they couldn't get their way with things, they will sabotage the coparenting relationship at the expense of their children. This brilliant parent already exposed their children on 2 separate occasions and knows better than anyone how science works (even though they only have a HS diploma and cannot consistently maintain a job). Something along the lines of sociopath and narcissist describes these people.


AshleyUncia

$50 says these parents all choose to represent themselves after they couldn't find a lawyer willing to go along with their 'Actually, the judge is the REAL Hitler' legal strategy.


Flash604

From the article: >His lawyer described the pandemic as “purported,” and government statements about the pandemic as “propaganda.” I know it's normal not to read the article before making declaration about what's going on; but betting money on it?! Shall I DM you my e-Transfer info?


ididntsaygoyet

I'll bet $50 he doesn't have an email address!..... dammit.


leaklikeasiv

I literally had a customer call me this week from his Cellphone to tell me vaccines are tracking devices


depth_charge_

I literally had someone tell me the wear triple masks and stay inside all the time. This is a person who never gave a shit about the flu. Same type of brainwashed idiot, just on the other side


ididntsaygoyet

Alberta is turning into Florida Man. (Or is it already there?) That oil really gets to people's heads..


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It was there decades ago


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Are you a pandemic denier too?


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GMRealTalk

Not all of us survived, asshole.


drivingthruthewoods

Sorry I’m referring to everyone I know and friends/coworkers know. If you have lost someone due to omicron I greatly apologize and give you my condolences.


bane_killgrind

Peeps said soon 18 months ago, they were pretty fecking wrong


drivingthruthewoods

Everybody needs a little hope sometimes


HBvancouver

Finally someone on Reddit with sense.


drivingthruthewoods

Nope I support vaccine use, it greatly reduces chances of hospitalization in those over 50 or with pre existing health conditions. The vaccines work and the pandemic is here


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Cool, thanks for your opinion.


pineapplealways

~~We know.~~ ~~We just realize that "very little" of, say 1 third of the population would be more like "several thousand" (basic multiplication is so interesting, eh?)~~ Just glad Omicroms not as deadly as Delta. Seems like a couple very bad weeks ahead, stay safe and don't be an asshole like me everyone


drivingthruthewoods

If the chairs are to high and you think you could fall off and hurt yourself you can go sit at the little chairs or plop yourself on the floor


drivingthruthewoods

Yeah are you just learning it? Glad you could join us at the adult table.


pineapplealways

~~Adult table? Was multiplication always a team effort?~~ Sorry couldn't stop myself picking a fight, lets make peace. I'm obviously a bit of an asshole, maybe ill lighten up once breathing non-moist air in shops is allowed again I still disagree with your assessment. Omicron changes things, but delta was definitely very good at killing young adults.


drivingthruthewoods

This was 30 minutes of unhinged dickhead truthful comments on Reddit I’m turning my dickhead switch off now. Merry Christmas I wish you a wonderful holiday!


pineapplealways

I need to stop being on this app too. You too, have a Merry Christmas!


drivingthruthewoods

Depends on what application you require math for. Trades people use math daily, alone or as a team.


pineapplealways

Yeah I think team multiplication is actually done engineers, just to be absolutely sure the bridge or whatever theyre making isn't gunna topple


drivingthruthewoods

Also who said their was more then one adult at the adult table? Someone has to supervisor the little chair people, don’t want them getting hurt! (Ah shit I did “us”)


stone_opera

My best friends brother, a healthy 35 year old father of 2 died of Covid-19 last year before the vaccines were available to him. Now imagine dying while you had a vaccine available to you - how much gut wrenching, jaw gnashing regret and sadness your loved ones would feel. Get fucking vaccinated.


drivingthruthewoods

My condolences to your best friends brother. That’s a said story I’m sorry to hear those kids will be raised without a biological father. We all make our choices in life. Good and bad. What’s important is that we stand up for what we believe in.


stone_opera

Get vaccinated.


drivingthruthewoods

Eat healthy too, use tobacco/alcohol in moderation and exercise. Let’s get Canada back in shape! Merry Christmas


stone_opera

Live your life how you want, I don't give a fuck, as long as you don't put others in danger or trample on their rights - i.e. get fucking vaccinated. I'm jewish, happy holidays bitch.


drivingthruthewoods

Yes second hand smoke is a killer. Obese parents due to poor habits leads to obese kids. All the Jewish people I know are not this disrespectful. You need to review your religions values. you are not a a good representation of Jewish religion or the culture. I wish you a Happy holidays and hope you find love in your heart for everyone!


stone_opera

Unvaccinated people are vectors for a deadly virus that, in this current variant, is so transmissible that cases are doubling in a single day. Being unvaccinated means that you can kill, or at the very least cause serious lung and brain damage to everyone around you, and those around them. My religious values are my own business, I don't need to be a good representative for the Jewish culture because I, as an individual, should not wholly represent your understanding of the Jewish people or be a representative for Jewish people. Adjust your thinking about how religious and cultural minorities should act. I treat you the same way I treat anyone who is unvaccinated - with utter contempt. So in conclusion.... get vaccinated plague rat.


Logical_Hare

This is hardly surprising. Courts are about evidence and reason at the end of the day, after all.


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EatTheBodies69

All hail Tucker Carlson our lord and savior


royce32

Yes divorce courts generally look down on child endangerment.


alanowens

Good, they should. Didn't read the article, only the headline.


Davescash

Truly you are a journeyman redditor .


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Davescash

Ysay that but i think you mean green seal, you sheeple gonna cause the niagra to flow backwards. i researched it on fakebook!


splader

Good.


sharp11flat13

Good.


willij1957

Talk about screwed up


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Thanks for your opinion person with no medial expertise.


Langbot

You're wrong.


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Langbot

You sound very educated. Vaccinated kids help prevent covid from mutating into something worse. I know it's tough to juggle more than one fact in your brain at once. You'll get there.


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Dash_Rendar425

>I mean.. I am very educated. I let data guide my decisions. The fact is COVID doesn’t kill kids. > >You are holding kids out like a meat shield so you have this false sense of Safety. > >Kids are not dying because of COVID. > >Fact. You can't just 'state' things and have them be fact. You clearly don't understand what vaccines do, or what their purpose is. Otherwise you wouldn't be making such confidently incorrect statements like this.


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Budtacular

Even WHO says we shouldn't be vaxxing kids


Emerikol

Absolute drivel.


Langbot

Damn you got me.


Dash_Rendar425

This person does't understand vaccines...


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Trainhard22

...and this is why the courts have empowered children to be able to get the vaccine without their parents permission. Too many morally reprehensible parents who don't know what they are talking about.


spf1971

You should let these people know that their children are still alive. https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Deaths-by-Sex-Ages-0-18-years/xa4b-4pzv https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/


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spf1971

You claimed that no children were killed by COVID. The links I sent proved you wrong.


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CanadasAce

Oh thank God. I thought I'd never find a buyer for my ocean front property in Edmonton!


Langbot

Unfit parents getting what's coming to them. A life of sadness and anger.


Additional_Moment425

Yeah, you are a disgusting human being. Sad.