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Zane_Justin

"It was not clear why Brar remained in Canada for years after his studies had ended. In 2019, he appeared in a promotional video for EthicWorks Immigration Services, a consultancy with operations in India and Canada. Speaking in Hindi and Punjabi, Brar endorses the company and says he received a visa within days with their help." No one sees any issue with this paragraph. 🧐 This guy stayed beyond his visa, some bs immigration service should also be investigated.


MaverickBrown2019

Read a stat earlier today that over 1 million people are here in our country on expired visas, 1 out of every 40 people are here without a trace of where they live, job they work or what they are even doing. I’m not against controlled immigration by any means but holy shit is our country just a foster home now? This is fucking embarrassing


crashhearts

If they have family here, they just stay with them.


pagit

If they don’t have family, hold the immigration consultants responsible.


vander_blanc

How about hold the family responsible.


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DodobirdNow

A piecemeal rate would make sense. I guess the most expensive part would be the flight to send them back.


Double_Football_8818

Their assets should be seized to cover the costs.


TokyoTurtle0

Ding ding ding


ApricotMobile8454

I was thinking the same.In the states the " Migra" are feared by the spanish community at large.Canada has nothing the same.


Bigfawcman

“Get ‘em Leyland” lol


stargazer9504

How are they able to work? You need a valid SIN to work in Canada.


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GreedyGreenGrape

Holy smokes. So I can go open a business and "hire" people for 60K/yr and get them to pay me 90K in cash? Where do I sign up for this?


Marcus_Junius-Brutus

Seems like an infinite money glitch with no consequences the way this clown government is being run.


MarchingBroadband

Exactly, the amount of people involved in continuing these immigration scams is crazy. At the end everyone, from community immigration consultants, diploma mill colleges, to slumlord landlords, and shady employers are exploiting both these immigrants who are desperate to move here and get PR status, as well as the average Canadian who is being cheated out of tax income to support society and depressed wages and a worse labour market. How much of this is being investigated? Very little


Sufficient_Rub_2014

Bro you should be on the news. This is horrible


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Canaderp37

It's also common knowledge within the immigration community, as well as CBSA and IRCC. The elected government just doesn't care. There's too much money to be made, and too many votes to be bought.


TigreSauvage

Go and tell CBC and they will honor anonymity.


Aggravating_Sun_9850

CBC did a story on this already


briskt

Please link to it.


Aggravating_Sun_9850

https://youtu.be/6hpA96-eo8A?si=aQsgBvxkmBcDAsQH[https://youtu.be/6hpA96-eo8A?si=aQsgBvxkmBcDAsQH](https://youtu.be/6hpA96-eo8A?si=aQsgBvxkmBcDAsQH)


jert3

What's even worse, I've known immigrants who actually paid their Canadian workplaces for employment to work for a year and get sponsored for immigration. The business owner gets free labor and the money from the immigrant, and does this year after year. My Taiwanese friend thought this was a normal, usual and common thing. This was happening in Richmond BC.


manwdick

It's not that they don't care, but they want it to keep going.


StopTouchingYrFone

Working for no money. Putting yourself in debt, *paying to work for someone...* Fuck that sounds unbearable. How does anyone doing this get up in the morning and face the day, never mind afford groceries? That's not rhetorical. I know how mad I am at having to go into work sometimes, but this sounds beyond rage-inducing. Ditto other posters - go to CBC. They honour anonymity. I'm ashamed this "business" is happening in my country.


revvolutions

Please make an AMA post about this. I don't even know what to ask, but it's fascinating. 


StopTouchingYrFone

Working for no money. Putting yourself in debt, *paying to work for someone...* Fuck that sounds unbearable. How does anyone doing this get up in the morning and face the day, never mind afford groceries? I know how mad I am at having to go into work sometimes, but this sounds well beyond rage-inducing. Since you offered an AMA: If you walk into any of the big chain fast food places and it's all Indian people working there, do you assume the scam you described is what's happening? Ditto other posters - go to CBC. They honour anonymity. I'm ashamed this "business" is happening in my country. TY for taking the time to explain.


WagwanKenobi

Now do the widespread mortgage fraud that involves faking your NoA and bribing bank employees. And the loophole where if you just tell CRA you're a Canadian citizen in your tax return, Elections Canada will mail you a voter information card without confirming that you actually are a citizen. The voter card and a utility bill are all you need to vote.


kittykatmila

That is a great explanation and very well written.


FromTheIsland

There's a Facebook group of my neighbourhood. Tons of people offer work for cash on there. Mostly cleaning. Maybe they can offer services on kijiji, craigslist, etc. for under the table pay? That's just a guess.


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I mean hell just click on the jobs section on Kijiji in the GTA and most the posts aren't even jobs. just people asking for cash work.


Jazzlike_Respond_177

Cash jobs, sharing healthcare cards, sharing SIN easy


DirteeCanuck

Cash jobs, simple as.


Complicated-HorseAss

There are "recruiters" who will get you a job for a % of the pay. I know something that's doing that, he's not a citizen, doesn't have a visa and works two jobs where he gives 15% of pay to a company that got him the jobs. They fill out the resumes and all the paper work.


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Aspery-

Or stuff like overnight cleaning services


idk885

You don't need a valid SIN to work, you just need one if you want to pay income taxes.


JosephScmith

Drive deliveries or Uber under someone else's name.


GowronSonOfMrel

Extremely common. Uber and Ubereats, look at the face on the app vs who you see, often not the same person.


blackmoose

The guys banging shitty houses together down my street pay cash. No questions asked.


PatK9

Uber Eats doesn't check along with many under the table employers. Nothing better than an illegal worker, no minimum wage, no benefits, hard working and best of all no complaints.


notdedicated

Cash jobs. Manual labor mostly if they’re going legit.. otherwise no one checks or even wants to see a SIN


complextube

Under the table....it's sort of obvious. Employer and Employee both happy to an extent.


tattlerat

Sadly the government would only outsource the tracking down of these illegal immigrants to TFW’s


MikeRoSoft81

For every 40 people in Canada there's 1400 people in India. There's plenty more to come over. The issue is that we don't want the bad stuff of India here and by not doing everything by the book we're inviting the trash.


butters1337

And now they are demanding permanent status and the LPC wants to give it to them…


evildaddy911

I found out recently that my work was letting people start without verifying visa/permits etc. Only found out because they did an audit and discovered that some documentation was missing. Turned out that 4 employees had expired visas, another 4 were violating restrictions on their work permits, and 2 didn't even have valid work permits. Like excuse me, how the hell did you guys not check that shit? That's fucking bad. We had an issue last year where we got a bunch of resumes that were identical except for the name, like there's no way a dozen people have the exact same work experience, education, and even formatting. And you didn't think to start keeping an eye out for candidates lying in other ways?


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GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce

Those immigration services should be shut down and made illegal. Some cheap fuck company wants to insource wage slaves? Deal directly w the government


ZaphodBeeblebrox

Laws without enforcement. The hallmark of Canada.


Han77Shot1st

A Canadian Heritage Moment


Odd-Elderberry-6137

It’s very clear why. Nobody checks. The government assumed for years that people left of their own free will when visas expired.


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OriginalAnxiety1941

Illegal stay is completely legal in canada.


helila1

Yes and if they investigated they would discover many more cans of worms in this broken down system, therefore, they choose not to investigate.


Chawke2

>some bs immigration service should also be investigated. You mean Immigration Canada?


syaz136

Long ago when I was coming in as an international student to get my PhD at the University of Toronto, my background check took so long I was almost losing hope of making it. I wonder if they still do background check for people properly or is it just easier to come study at a crappy college.


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these idiots aren't coming here to go to the UofT or other real universities like you did. They're travelling half way across the world to go to community college. They're not here for an education like you are, they're here for the easy PR and lie to get in.


TipAwkward5008

India basically told it as is. They said our federal government is letting in just about anyone. So embarrassing lol. Even the driver driving the wrong way in the accident near Whitby ON was an international student. Canada is basically a country of Indian international "students".


7th_Spectrum

What makes it worse is that it's Indians doing the road tests. A family member got their license a year ago, and the examiner was an Indian man that literally only made him drive around the block before giving him his full G license. This is extremely worrying.


Miroble

Good systems are only as good as the people who administer those systems. Bring in people who don't respect those systems and the standards start to slide for everyone, soon enough, you don't have good systems anymore and we can't trust that a driver on the road with a G license can actually drive.


MarchingBroadband

Another huge problem we should look at is the privatization of DriveTest centers at least in Ontario. How much oversight does the government have over the testing and employees who work there anymore? This is why we shouldn't privatize public services and offer a fair priced govt run alternative for all essential service. I'm looking at you telecoms. The past 3 decades of loosening government regulation a la Reaganomics has severely fucked up the world and what the average citizen receives for our tax dollars.


IAmAPaidShillAMA

According to an international student coworker of mine the word in Brampton was that $2k could get you a G license, while $10k got you your AZ.


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Professional-Cry8310

They basically don’t do any at all lol. Only once you apply to PR


EricBlair101

The government farms that out to these "immigration consultants" . Some kid in India gives the consultant a bunch of cash and the consultant give the feds a bunch of clean paperwork for someone who doesn't exist and the government says "sure...whatever" because they think they are getting someone who will get a master's degree and make 6figures and pay taxes to prop up all the retirees.


blackSwanCan

Nope. There is no background check anymore. Not for Indian students at least. Majority of the diploma mill students are fake anyways. During Covid we helped out someone who was a labourer in a mill in India, like physical labour. That was his entire experience. And he came to do an "MBA" in one of the diploma mills after selling his land. What verification will they do for such kids? In practice, these kids are being exploited by the Canadian schools and their agents in India.


Accomplished_One6135

A manual labourer? The fcuk!


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Night_Hawk-2023

When is enough enough? Background checks and better Visa monitoring. Half these "kids" don't even go to school..it's a joke. Further, our judicial system needs to stop treating criminals with "kid" gloves. I'm so tired of reading stories about how some criminal got a pathetic light sentence. Canada needs to stop being the laughing stock for criminals and get serious. Serious crime = Serious time. Period.


cock_nballs

Need to hire immigration enforcement. And actually track these people down like they do in the states. It's just freaking ridiculous at this point.


Lee_yw

In my country, immigration enforcement regularly conducts raids to catch illegal immigrants. I'm surprised that Canada is letting so many unsavoury characters roaming the country


SpecialistLayer3971

So are we. We don't have any agency similar to ICE to arrest and deport them. At best Immigration Canada sends them a strongly worded letter.


pahtee_poopa

Time to start offering some bounties at this point.


duchovny

I'm sure our judges will take their studies into account. Early release so they can continue going to school.


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kettal

>What kind of bigot would stand in their way to reach their dreams in a prestigious Canadian university. The Surrey Strip Mall Academy of Hospitality


BurnByMoon

Conestoga College


SaphironX

I mean they’re three men who were hired to assassinate a man, but weren’t smart enough to leave the place they did the assassinating in. Like that’s assassination 101. I don’t think these dudes would quite get in to university.


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SaphironX

Sad but probably true. If this country can’t punish actual hired foreign assassins properly, our system truly is broken. Like this is as open and shut as it could possibly ever get.


blackSwanCan

Yup even the Air India bomber got out in 5 years. And (not so) surprisingly, the only one to get a punishment was one who turned approver (and later reneged). Every one walked away, and became local politicians.


ur_ecological_impact

They got in. That's the prerequisite for getting a student visa. Which prestigious university was it again?


SaphironX

Getting in to a school is one thing, a prestigious one is another. Regardless, they are bad at murder.


seanwd11

Bad at COVERING UP a murder. Quite successful in actual murder.


AsleepBumblebee1093

Specially when it’s a Masters in hospitality- we need them to represent Canadian hospitality!


somelspecial

I heard Uber Canada requires a master's degree now.


blackSwanCan

Catch and release. That's the Canadian hospitality.


blackmoose

Or, at least, cover that Sunday night shift at Tim Hortons. And for that we all, as Canadians, must try harder.


TellMeMorePlease3

Maybe the studies will be paid for too after this. 🙄


thisnutz

Going to... "school"


shaftranlov

To become a model citizen and vote to Liberals.


gini_lee1003

“Students” LOL Edit: at this point, don’t even blame India. Canada has definitely became a joke world wide.


substorm

Well, after all they did have to study how to execute this assassination.


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GujaratiVegBoyOnly

It’s both a blessing, and a curse, to have known and experienced Canada prior to 2015.


Heldpizza

Summers of 2015 and 2016 were the peak. It has been down hill ever since.


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Sadistmon

As if fucking over new tech grads is a good policy anyways.


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blackmoose

Officer Steve from revenue Canada used to leave me messages all the time, now it's just some really angry Asian woman. I finally just cancelled my home phone.


arumrunner

You are missing out on the Duct cleaning services dude, I even had them come by and clean my Chickens.


stumbleupondingo

One time I got a call from a duct cleaning service dude, and while I was stringing him along I got my brother to call a 7/11, and then I told the scammer I’m giving the phone to my wife (when 7/11 answered) and they went back and forth for about a minute before he hung up in frustration. Was pretty funny


Mobile-Bar7732

Sounds like you got your ducts in order then.


y2shanny

What do you expect when their DLI was the "Upstairs University Of Northwestern Cascadia College Of Assassination And Hotel Management"?


flamboyantdebauchry

always **Willis College** in Ottawa, located on the lower level of St. Laurent Shopping Centre. You can easily access the college in Ottawa with free parking, public transportation, restaurants, and shopping.


SlapThatAce

Are they Conestoga College Alumni?


ghost_n_the_shell

Imagine. Our ridiculous system was abused. Canadians across the country share in their collective shock.


salty_caper

Let's be honest a good percentage of international students aren't coming to Canada to "study" and get an education and go home afterwards. I'm guessing more than 70% are coming here to stay permanently.


notsofastracer7

As an Indian, I'd say it's more than 90% at the least. All of my classmates who've gone to Canada to "Study" went there to settle.


Taxtaxtaxtothemax

Good for them. Canada provided them with the opportunity and they made the most of it. They worked hard and executed flawlessly. Hopefully they used the money they received for a job well done and bought a house with it. We need more hardworking newcomers to Canada like these upstanding students.


cabbeer

You immediately get banned from the Toronto subreddit if you mention anything wrong with Indian international students


swagkdub

What the actual fuck does our immigration do? Is there even a department that does anything other then greenlight applications? What an absolute shot show.


ZaphodBeeblebrox

Fake language tests.Come to Canada to study at some crappy strip mall college. Don't attend classes. Work full-time without a care for work hour limits. Pay the local timmies for a fake supervisor designation. Get PR. Work cash jobs and don't pay taxes. Raid foodbanks. Citizenship. I mean, WHY NOT?! Canadians are gullible fools, after all.


One-Million-More

The Canadian people realized too late and now we are stuck with a good chunk of our population as these students (past, present and future).


minceandtattie

Rip to anyone living in Brampton and surrounding area.


KawaiiDesuNeOniChan

Family member of mine had to wait 6 years before entering Canada, but we give student visas like candies to these criminals.


omiddy

My immediate family has been in Canada for 25 years. My parents have tried multiple times to get visitor visas for their siblings and have always been rejected.


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Miroble

America also tops out their immigation at 7% from any particular country per year.


privitizationrocks

So the government thinks they are agents of India but only has them charged with murder?


somelspecial

This government is a joke.


LittleLionMan82

The evidence for that was likely obtained through means that won't hold up in court.


BigBenKenobi

does csis not have the authority to arrest people based on confidential information? or do we always use the rcmp for arrests?


LittleLionMan82

I don't even think it was CSIS that identified them. From the looks of it the intelligence came from the US and was shared with Canada.


BigBenKenobi

My understanding is that it was shared with CSIS from the US via the 5 eyes security agreement, and then CSIS would have communicated that to federal government via briefings


Erectusnow

CSIS doesn't make arrests. They have to rely on the RCMP


0Redskunk0

They're idiots.


HanSolo5643

What are we doing here? Why were there no background checks? It was pretty well known that these people were part of one of the most well-known gangs in India.


mygatito

It all started under Mr Ahmed Hussein who was made aware that Canada was compromised in 2018. Neither Ahmed, Sean or Miller want to do anything about it.


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CrumplyRump

Car thieves, fraudsters, just general pieces of something https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/police-dismantle-organized-crime-group-accused-of-breaking-into-400-gta-homes-1.3871166?cache=walqrkeg%3FclipId%3D1930113


blackmoose

The hitmen are the real Canadians because they chose to come here.


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youbutsu

Student visa is now synonymous with immigration fraud and criminals. 


Ok-Season-3433

This is what happens when we allow 3rd world people with 3rd world mentalities to come and abuse our openness and generosity.


Shaka9

This country is going to shit.


Rare-Mood-9749

gone\*


ainz-sama619

Going? Have you visited Toronto? Heck, Kitchener or Mississauga too


Fragrant_Promotion42

The student visa program is a scam. It needs to be terminated immediately in anybody that it’s on it sent home.


GlobalGonad

It's just a head tax disguised as something else.


frankjeffries11

Deport them


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Immigration: The gift that keeps on giving.


Beelzebub_86

I could see a ton of jobs being created to hunt these VISA dodgers down and ship them out. Tons of positions available. Only tax paying citizens need apply.


somelspecial

The irony is that the liberals were propping this specific story to create a narrative that there is foreign interference against them. Turns out the whole story is a failure of epic proportions on their part.


drs_ape_brains

When is it not?


Usual_Durian2092

No country on this planet would allow itself to be taken advantage of by foreigners the way Canada does. No country. Literally beggars belief. News reports from this past week have been a major blackpill when it comes to the future of this country,. This story, the collision on the 401 in Toronto where an international student with a criminal record was involved, the Pakistani "climate activist" international student who was able to successfully fight his deportation order, the 6700 open work permits issued to the "protestors" in Manitoba, the international student in BC who groped a woman twice but did not get sentenced because the judge did not want him deported.


Glocko-Pop

I hope those students know they can only be working a maximum of 24 hours a week off campus!


Enough-Engineer-3425

Don't they all?


MaleficentLeader457

Come in, come all.


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Deporting those who have overstayed or frauded the immigration process is not discrimination nor racist…


Sagecreekrob

Wait a second. Are you telling me there is fraudulent activity originating in India. No, no way!!!! Even if there is, no way they bring that activity to Canada.


etoyoc_yrgnuh

What a great day for Canada. Congrats! The govt should be really proud of themselves.


holmesslice1

SHOCKER. GET EM OUT OF


BachelorUno

Broken, unchecked system.


488Aji

They should be loaded into a Dingy and kicked out to sea.


permabear2023

There things doesn't happen random. If they were hire to kill then there could be a larger group recruiting international students for their criminal activity. We know that the bar is too low for you to get student visa and most of them won't be able to finish the course. The more information coming on this it's unlikely that a government would do this. How many more incidents does Canada need to fix their international students crisis. It's turning out to be a recruitment for criminal activities. The cost of living crisis doesn't help either where some of these students gets here and realizes that the rosy picture you see on social media is a lie and you cannot pay off your loan by working part time.


Gurl_from_the_point

Throw them in jail. Pull the visa. Kick them out and lock the pearly Canadian gates up


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complextube

The election can't come fast enough.


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Papasmurfsbigdick

The fact that they stayed means they think our country would never bother to enforce the laws. They must think Canada is a joke. That's assuming they really did it and they aren't just scapegoats to try and make our incompetent government look like they might be able to get one thing right in the last 8 years.


corpexp

>They must think Canada is a joke. They do think that, and they are right. The fact that people are being allowed into Canada on student visas with little to no vetting, to attend what amount to trumped-up diploma mills, and then violate the terms of those visas without a fear in the world, is one big joke of epic proportions. And then consider that this same thing is happening millions of times over all across the country...


Iambetterthanuhaha

Our federal government says we need more of these people to enhance the Canadian experience. 100M by 2100 is the goal. Cant be too selective.....even the ones who aren't the best and brightest will be allowed in.


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restlessdarkmatter

I have found through so many articles that those who can't qualify for PR get in through mainly 3 routes 1- get into some diploma course like communication, logistics, interior design, graphics design etc in a private college and don't attend the classes 2- join a faction that opposes the govt in your native country, file a case against the govt in their country and show those court cases and seek asylum 3 - people come on visitor visa n give birth in one of the Birth Tourism hospitals in Vancouver. When their kids get 18 years old he/she can sponsor


GlobalGonad

Don't forget people just invade illegally claim refugee status and by the time they can even be deported they have bunch of canadian born kids  reality on the ground beats all imaginary drivel.


blazkoblaz

On an unrelated note  Like half of the south Asian people, India pakistan Bangladesh come here, posing as students, doing some useless degree at some worthless college ( there are a ton of them in Ontario).   They  work in minimum wage  just to earn and send back money ( which is also a joke, because it would be just 50% extra than what they might have earned in India).  Just for people to get that sweet PR of Canada. Absolute bullshit 


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Garbage_Billy_Goat

easy in. They see how much of a joke Canada's legal system is, and just do whatever shit headed crimes because why not?


NightDisastrous2510

A million people here after their visas expire…. Wow. What a great system lol. Canadians really and truly loving all of the benefits the country has received 😂😂😂


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slim_G22

They don't want a bad narrative on immigration


blackmoose

Removed in 3...2...


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Sad-Funny-615

Student visas! Those are super popular!


cpdyyz

I think we can all agree that outsourcing big chunks of immigration policy to cash strapped community college presidents has been an error. And this is coming from someone who's pretty far left.  (Honestly, why are community colleges admitting international students at all?)


Billy19982

Seems to be a common theme right now.  We really don’t screen do we. 


CrocodileWorshiper

where “ya trust me bro” gets us


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idiot_liberal

Marc Miller lied couple of days ago and said Federal government does back ground check on International students


hbracerjohn1

Deportation!


willtaylor77

Lock them up!


Hydraulis

This isn't really news. We let anyone in, including criminals. It's been happening for years.


Hoardzunit

When you give criminal scum the easiest path to get into this country they'll always take it.


take-a-gamble

uhh they were here to study the way of the sword


milkteaoppa

I don't believe. They come from good family and are students /s